Actually I wonder why have to bother about whether the flowers are real or not...
Since you are happily hanging and do it within your means, then its fine...
The main reason why one wants to fight hanging with another is becos of firstly, face and secondly, under the influence by your gals...
If you dont take these 2 into considerations, what you are doing will be appreciated regardless of how much you hang...
How much you hang, the gals will know...
And if they are real, they will appreciate more than those fake ones...
The gals are just using this angle to influence you that others are hanging more (fakes ones) and by how much you hang shows how much sincerity you have, which is bullshit...
But if you wants to fall into that trap then bite the bullet and no complaint...
That is the reason why some cheongsters can get so much by paying little and why some pay so much and get so little...
In exchange of their (the gals) perceived sincerity from us, more should be given...
Actually I wonder why have to bother about whether the flowers are real or not...
Since you are happily hanging and do it within your means, then its fine...
The main reason why one wants to fight hanging with another is becos of firstly, face and secondly, under the influence by your gals...
If you dont take these 2 into considerations, what you are doing will be appreciated regardless of how much you hang...
How much you hang, the gals will know...
And if they are real, they will appreciate more than those fake ones...
The gals are just using this angle to influence you that others are hanging more (fakes ones) and by how much you hang shows how much sincerity you have, which is bullshit...
But if you wants to fall into that trap then bite the bullet and no complaint...
That is the reason why some cheongsters can get so much by paying little and why some pay so much and get so little...
In exchange of their (the gals) perceived sincerity from us, more should be given...
It was my mistake, i mistook him for someone else...he's actually another brudder whom I saw before drinking beer at the table near the singer's corner...
haha, is tat i happily sitting one corner without much of an attention. and some of the staff i know there will tok to mi.. well if u need info, u gotta pay for it... get it...?
All in all, if you are a decent business man, will you do your business in a bandits' nest.
If you are a genuine flower hanger, will you choose to patronise a joint where you know the flowers are real or will you still foolishly go to a joint where it is obvious the vast majority of the big flowers are fake.
Very simple and rule of thumb - go and sit in Lido, observe their consistent flower patterns, go to LV as well as DC to have a look. Do it over a few days and then you step into joints with fake flowers, you will know.
Certain things just cannot be taught ot explicitly expressed, it has to be experienced. Just do your research here and talk to the experience hanging flower bros who will guide you along. I am just a rookie rook who have benefitted from the rest of the bros guidances here.
Anyway there is one thing I agree with you and that is "Buyers beware"; this is why sharing amongst bros is important.
Cheers,
LDH
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Originally Posted by Huang Shao Ye
Actually I wonder why have to bother about whether the flowers are real or not...
Since you are happily hanging and do it within your means, then its fine...
The main reason why one wants to fight hanging with another is becos of firstly, face and secondly, under the influence by your gals...
If you dont take these 2 into considerations, what you are doing will be appreciated regardless of how much you hang...
How much you hang, the gals will know...
And if they are real, they will appreciate more than those fake ones...
The gals are just using this angle to influence you that others are hanging more (fakes ones) and by how much you hang shows how much sincerity you have, which is bullshit...
But if you wants to fall into that trap then bite the bullet and no complaint...
That is the reason why some cheongsters can get so much by paying little and why some pay so much and get so little...
In exchange of their (the gals) perceived sincerity from us, more should be given...
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Originally Posted by kalamilk
Oh my holy shit!!! im totally agree with you bro!
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haha, is tat i happily sitting one corner without much of an attention. and some of the staff i know there will tok to mi.. well if u need info, u gotta pay for it... get it...?
lol...it's okay bro...i got a lot of info free...me and you same time there....
All in all, if you are a decent business man, will you do your business in a bandits' nest.
If you are a genuine flower hanger, will you choose to patronise a joint where you know the flowers are real or will you still foolishly go to a joint where it is obvious the vast majority of the big flowers are fake.
Very simple and rule of thumb - go and sit in Lido, observe their consistent flower patterns, go to LV as well as DC to have a look. Do it over a few days and then you step into joints with fake flowers, you will know.
Certain things just cannot be taught ot explicitly expressed, it has to be experienced. Just do your research here and talk to the experience hanging flower bros who will guide you along. I am just a rookie rook who have benefitted from the rest of the bros guidances here.
Anyway there is one thing I agree with you and that is "Buyers beware"; this is why sharing amongst bros is important.
Cheers,
LDH
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My take is that there are always different ways of getting business....some more ethical and some not....as a consumer if I go there and support a singer but is mislead into thinking there are others vying for the same singer and challenging me to hang more but it's actually fake then I would feel that it is underhanded...it doesn't matter anyway...becos such tactics will eventually backfire as reflected by the customers becos it is clear to see where they customers are now...
By getting more info from here means makes you smarter and not to go into unnecessaary "contributions"...
However, in every forum, do take a pinch of salt in whatever has said or posted...
Sometimes, posts that are made here can be untrue and their purposes are to made less people go there so that they can be more competitive...
I am not saying some of the "senior" or "experienced" cheongsters here that are doing that...
I can only say that do your research not only based on what are written, but what are experienced on the ground...
Walk the ground yourself and get more info...
Based on what you believe, seen and hear... Do a conclusion before going into "contributing"...
If you are a smart businessman, always check the ground before investing...
And if the investment goes wrong, be it whatever situation, bite the bullet and move on... No complaint should be made...
I do see some posts here stating they are feeling sore after their "investments" went wrong...
A smart businessman, be it decent or corrupted, should see the situation before plunging into it...
If one finds it unusual, move to ther joints then...
My advice is do your research based on your own conclusion, checking the ground and forum before going in...
Still, I also agree with you that sharing in this forum is important but giving an more objective view is more appreciated then a personal one...
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Loving_Dickhead
All in all, if you are a decent business man, will you do your business in a bandits' nest.
If you are a genuine flower hanger, will you choose to patronise a joint where you know the flowers are real or will you still foolishly go to a joint where it is obvious the vast majority of the big flowers are fake.
Very simple and rule of thumb - go and sit in Lido, observe their consistent flower patterns, go to LV as well as DC to have a look. Do it over a few days and then you step into joints with fake flowers, you will know.
Certain things just cannot be taught ot explicitly expressed, it has to be experienced. Just do your research here and talk to the experience hanging flower bros who will guide you along. I am just a rookie rook who have benefitted from the rest of the bros guidances here.
Anyway there is one thing I agree with you and that is "Buyers beware"; this is why sharing amongst bros is important.
Huang Shao Ye, very neutral and analytical stance.
Pls see my input below in red
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Originally Posted by Huang Shao Ye
By getting more info from here means makes you smarter and not to go into unnecessaary "contributions"...
However, in every forum, do take a pinch of salt in whatever has said or posted...
Sometimes, posts that are made here can be untrue and their purposes are to made less people go there so that they can be more competitive...
Very true, but you are basing your statements on the fact that no one knows the identities of the said posters that the info is from. But, incase you're not aware, there are many credible people who have commented about this joint, whom are known in person by many, thus adding the weight to their comments
Again, those low hand tactics from competitors are disgraceful, but then again, if one appears here, trust me, he will be exposed very fast!
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Originally Posted by Huang Shao Ye
I am not saying some of the "senior" or "experienced" cheongsters here that are doing that...
I can only say that do your research not only based on what are written, but what are experienced on the ground...
Walk the ground yourself and get more info...
Based on what you believe, seen and hear... Do a conclusion before going into "contributing"...
Well said, but then again, when you do a recce on the ground, especially in the nite scene, what is truth & what is lies? A joint con people money will inturn say people owe them money. They will not hesitate to spread this kinda rumour like wildfire to everyone every joint just to protect their interests! Even if staff know, who are you that they're gonna tell you anything to jeopardise their livelihood there?
So in my book, the forum is a much better source of intel than on the ground!
I would add, read between the lines to sniff out suspicious material!
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Originally Posted by Huang Shao Ye
If you are a smart businessman, always check the ground before investing...
And if the investment goes wrong, be it whatever situation, bite the bullet and move on... No complaint should be made...
In this case, this forum also serves as a ground, as for biting the bullet and move on....i am very sure like i mentioned, you gotta be burnt to feel the pain. Those who mentioned are just giving a heads up to those who might potentially be drawn into several webs of deception if there are any. Your statement to me, means keep hush hush and move on! I saw it
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Originally Posted by Huang Shao Ye
I do see some posts here stating they are feeling sore after their "investments" went wrong...
A smart businessman, be it decent or corrupted, should see the situation before plunging into it...
Do not use the word sore, it's very uncalled for. The circumstances are such that it's beyond norm for the things to have happened to several esteemed bros who are actually now happily spending their wealth elsewhere!
There are many recurring comments in your post so i dun think it's necessary to reply the same thing over and over!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huang Shao Ye
My advice is do your research based on your own conclusion, checking the ground and forum before going in...
Still, I also agree with you that sharing in this forum is important but giving an more objective view is more appreciated then a personal one...
Thanks!
Yup, there were witnesses, there are ex employees that have their name slandered on accusations that event current staff know it's bullcrap and the list goes on & on, there are agents/singer manager fucking their singers that is known by mgt but all hush hush and the list goes on and on!
We're only serving the entree now.
So, yes its objective sharing, cos we're warning would be INVESTORS to be extra alert & EXTRA careful, thus, this forum has served its purpose
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Originally Posted by Huang Shao Ye
If one finds it unusual, move to ther joints then...
Worry not sir, those who can spend have already moved on to better honest joints and are having a ball there almost everynight.
So, now you may stop the facade and intro yourself for everyone to know your identity, that's if you dare la, cos from all you posts in this forum, you dun need to be Einstein to know you work in Monte Carlo!
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This forum is meant to share info... - Good or bad info sharing
By getting more info from here means makes you smarter and not to go into unnecessaary "contributions"...
However, in every forum, do take a pinch of salt in whatever has said or posted...
Sometimes, posts that are made here can be untrue and their purposes are to made less people go there so that they can be more competitive... - This is not true of HFJ cos flower hanging will be less entertaininig without competitors. Good publicity or bad publicity is STILL publicity! I will not believe a HFJ thread if all bros who want to share only the good news about a joint...
I am not saying some of the "senior" or "experienced" cheongsters here that are doing that...
I can only say that do your research not only based on what are written, but what are experienced on the ground...
Walk the ground yourself and get more info...
Based on what you believe, seen and hear... Do a conclusion before going into "contributing"...
If you are a smart businessman, always check the ground before investing...
And if the investment goes wrong, be it whatever situation, bite the bullet and move on... No complaint should be made...
I do see some posts here stating they are feeling sore after their "investments" went wrong...
A smart businessman, be it decent or corrupted, should see the situation before plunging into it...
If one finds it unusual, move to ther joints then...
My advice is do your research based on your own conclusion, checking the ground and forum before going in...
A field trip is the BEST research
Still, I also agree with you that sharing in this forum is important but giving an more objective view is more appreciated then a personal one...
Thanks!
I disagreed with your statement in red.
You should read this thread from page 1 till last page and you will know why.
1 last question: Have you hung a single flower at this this joint ever?
This thread is as boring as the joint...dead town....except when there are the occasional events....as consumers we just feedback and give honest opionions....if wang shao ye is really from the joint...you should take the honest feedback and ask them to improve and rectify things...if not end up like sandborg....but who cares...new joint then new beggining and more choices for consumers....
This thread is as boring as the joint...dead town....except when there are the occasional events....as consumers we just feedback and give honest opionions....if wang shao ye is really from the joint...you should take the honest feedback and ask them to improve and rectify things...if not end up like sandborg....but who cares...new joint then new beggining and more choices for consumers....
Yup, totally agreed.
The businessman theory should point inwards NOT outwards
you might find it boring in CMC but others find it relaxing..
i have hang flowers in CMC but not in a dozen other hjf becoz i think it is worth it.
like what many posters have said, not your type of food, then go other places lo. better still, i got more time with the singers..haha
anyway, 8 new singers coming in this week.. enjoy!
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21-12-2010, 10:49 PM
Re: club monticarlo
