Please be careful - Daylight Robbery

[JeffKL]

LOL. u guys even want to start complaining about Ho Ching? at least she's doing a good job, albeit, all biz do tend to lose money once in a while.


Temasek Holdings is an Asia investment company owned by the government of Singapore.With a multinational staff of more than 300 people, it manages a portfolio of over S$160 billion, or more than US$110 billion, focused primarily in Asia.
Source- Temasek Holdings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now, let's look at Malaysia's investment arm. Compare apple with apple right?

Khazanah Nasional Berhad is the investment holding arm of the Government of Malaysia entrusted to hold and manage the commercial assets of the government and to undertake strategic investments. Khazanah has stakes in more than 50 companies with assets valued in excess of US$20 billion.
Source -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danaharta

I don't even need to comment further, the writing's on the wall.

[Xdecepticon]

Originally Posted by JeffKL

is it just me or you're telling everyone how ignorant u are?

Sure. you remind me of those smart alac telling everyone you are the only knowledgeable Msian who know spore economy far more than any typical sporean who work and STAY in Spore itself. Dont see any other msian bros doing that except Mr know all "Msian" alac like you.

Originally Posted by JeffKL

and i'm being labelled a Pro singaporean by stating facts. oh yes, i'm looking forward to more retarded posts about the same merry go round "foregn talent" question..

I didnt know question on "foreign talent" issue is a retarded post? Simply cos you are unable to tell me whether it benefits the unemployed and systematically replacing most Sporean jobs with "foreigners" and you regarded my question a retarded post? Your stance is no diff fm some of our ministers standard way of replying except that you not a Minister but talked like one. That really confirm my suspicions you belong to those filthy rich, holding a managerial post and having links to RC (Resident Committee) who know nuts about most ordinarily singaporean plight as far as bread and butter issue is concerned.

[Xdecepticon]

Originally Posted by JeffKL

I have asked my sg frens and they too do tend to agree that malaysia seems to be a better place to live in.

Need I say more. That shows how ignorant you are.

[sex crusader]

jUST PASSING BY.............very 'heat' here.Don't know to go geylang or go LSB in Jb to 'Tao liang".

[Sylar]

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Negative- Positive by Patrick Teoh
Posted by labisman
Saturday, 12 January 2008

This morning I had a conversation with this acquaintance. He is a successful businessman. A dato, a card carrying member of the MCA but not an active politician. Nice guy.

But what he said got me quite pissed off at first and then it set me thinking about things in my country; how they are, how they should be, how they could have been. Okay this is how it started. As always.

He insisted that I was such a negative person when it comes to things about Malaysia. He suggested that I should change my attitude. Fair words I guess. I can't argue with that surely. So what pissed me off?

Personally I get pissed off when people assume that I am negative about things just for the sake of being negative and that I don't do anything about it. In other words that I don't "walk the talk"
Okay, to counter my negative attitude toward things in Malaysia he invited me to attend an event to meet other 'concerned' Malaysians to talk about how we can make the difference. Okay nothing wrong with that either.

Then he said that he could get some Chinese business person to give talks on how they, even being Chinese, had been able to benefit from government sponsored programmes and get government loans for business and this and that.

He also said that there were educationists who were going to speak to dispel notions I had about the quality of education that my children would receive in Malaysia's education system.

Then he went on about how wonderful things are and that people should not focus on the negatives. Otherwise there will be 'trouble'.

When he told me about the Chinese business person being able to get government loans etc. and that our children and grandchildren can and do get quality education which will equip them for the increasingly competitive future I stopped listening and began thinking to myself.

Here is a typical Malaysian. Chinese (but he could be Malay or Indian or Lain-lain). Fairly successful. Fairly well-off by any standards. Involved with charity work. Giving back to the community. Good man. But in my opinion his thinking is flawed. Why?

He is thinking like an 'orang pendatang'. Sure, Malaysia is a wonderful country. Can make money here. Life is not too tough. There are no calamities. The food is good. Keep my mouth shut. Do some charity work. Life can be good. Very good.

Listen, Dato. We know that already. Nobody is arguing about the fact that Malaysia is a paradise and that is why we are willing to fight to defend it. Against what? Against bad administrators. Bad managers who, if left un-checked will bring our little paradise to ruin.

I believe that every true Malaysian, be he Malay, Chinese, Indian or any of our dozens of ethnic diversity, knows that Malaysia belongs to all Malaysians. And that to truly succeed in becoming a credible and respected player on the global stage we must all work together. Pull together in the same direction.

And now, Dato here it is my negativity stems from the almost laughable way the administration has been handling their duties as elected managers of Malaysia.

They are the ones who tell us to unite as one nation, one people. But they are also the ones who divide with religion, race and culture. Claiming that it needs to be done to protect the 'sensitivities' of one race. And as we have witnessed time and again over the past couple of years this administration has taken on an air of arrogance that is now manifesting itself in its strong-arm, high-handed methods in resolving any issues that it deems irritating. I need not name incidents here for fear of treading on the sensitivities of so-and-so and this-and-that la.

Its recent handling of events like walks, marches, demonstrations shows its total non-understanding of what is happening on the ground, the Rakyat. Or perhaps they do understand and it is their way of showing us that they are the ones who wield the REAL power. Cannon, tear gas, ISA etc.

Come la. Like that Nazri clown said on the Al-Jazeera interview the rule is "if you can call 40,000 I can call 1 million". Remember that boast? But then that's stating the obvious la. Anyway, I digress. Sorry. Or perhaps they are really desperate. They see what's coming and don't know how to deal with it. They are scared shitless. They finally realise that the people, the rakyat DO care and CAN make a difference and ARE prepared to speak out for their rights. Something we haven't done for a long time so perhaps the BN flers have been lulled into a false sense of security and the wake-up call had altogether been too sudden and too unexpected.

Negative? Sure I am. I am negative about how I am being treated in my own country.

I am negative about people who tell me to be positive but send their children to schools and colleges abroad.

I am negative about people who tell me that it is wonderful to live here whatever is happening and then sign a check to pay for their mortgage for that house in Perth, Australia.

I am negative about people who claim that they love Malaysia but also treasure their permanent residence status in another country. Just in case you know.

I am a Malaysian. I will live and I will die here. I have a stake in this country for my children and their children's children. Yeah. So fuck you! I will be as negative as I want to be. This is my country.

[The_Unrepentant]

Originally Posted by JeffKL

the matter of the fact is, and i've already stated earlier, every govt in this world is corrupt! fullstop! .

Totally agree! corrupt or not is not my problem . as long as i got bread on table, the govt is good. don care is white or black cat.

[The_Unrepentant]

Originally Posted by JeffKL

I don't even need to comment further, the writing's on the wall.

agree! lose money never mind. but must earn back.

[The_Unrepentant]

abt the foregin talent crap, it is better they come here than go elsewhere like malaysia as we will suffer even more in the end. one way or another we will face competition.

I believe in meritocracy. don care is malay, chinese indian, prc or bangla. the capable ones should do the job. If not how else are we diff frm the malaysian gov whereby only malays can hold important position?

[Xdecepticon]

Originally Posted by JeffKL

again, again, xdecep, you never fail to impress us with your choice of selective reading. its no wonder u can continue your racous bleating here and none of ur fellow citizens want to take the bait to add in the conversation. ok, maybe only suchinda. but at least suchinda puts in slightly more effort.

I only emphasize on foreign talents issue. There are also many other issues but still manageable. Thats why I did not discuss here. I rather not waste bandwidth to discuss non-important issue like Cat 40 bonk and baby bonus.

Originally Posted by JeffKL

then i'm neither Pro singapore or anti malaysia. at least suchinda gets that right from day 1.

I am saying you post nothing but praising sky high on Spore garment...like as though the latter is flawless.

Originally Posted by JeffKL

again, i have to remind you not to label me in any way you deem fit. just as you deem it not courteous for me to throw profanities at your weak arguements.

Well, there were also some postings of yours which I also dont deem fit that you should throw at me too. Ok, my mistake there. Will take note of that in future...which I doubt so.

Originally Posted by JeffKL

i don't know how less a hypocrite i am compared to you when i've already stated i'm saving $$ to migrate but u seem hell bent to preserve the ricebowls of ur diploma frens. n now u say u want to migrate too? as i said, u shud join WP or SDP or whatever tickles ur fancy.

Problem with you is that you ALWAY like to jump to conclusion. Just like all of your previous post. I am not just voicing out my diploma frens plight. At the rate this "foreign talent" policy is going, it definitely will affect future generations to come. We are talking about our children future. Have you consider that Mr know all? Now I am asking you how would you feel if you are in my frens position? Sure, your answer would be blah blah blah, go vote for other parties rite? Not all Sporean are like you when come to voting. Big head rules over over hearts. Theres simply no existing political parties that could match our present garment in terms of experience, maturity. As to your decision to vote your opposition parties be it DAP, MIC OR EVEN PAS, I have no comment. I have hopes for Msia and migrating there is always in my card.

Originally Posted by JeffKL

as i already said, and u seem not to read properly, there's plenty of jobs in sg. unemployment rate is at an all time low! JOBSDB is coming this Fri 18th Jan. i checked the net recently to look for a job for my fren in KL and there are plenty of jobs whereby diploma holders are eligible to enlist. so what's ur problem xdecep? just becos ur fren lost a job to someone else, it's the end of the world? u want to blame the govt for that? man! you are one guy with little ambitions! do you know something called "look for another job?"

Again. Teaching a croc how to swim or should I say teaching sporean where to look for girls to bonk. Since when did I say unemployment rate is at all time high! If you carry on putting words in my mouth, then theres nothing to discuss again in future. Sheesh.

JOBSDB at Suntec City? Sure. Like I always say (refer to my previous post which I keep saying jobs are abundant in Spore) most of the employers would rather employ foreigners than Sporean with the blessing of the garment of course. Why priorities to the foreigners? You ask my garment which I doubt you dont know the answer. Talk about job placement. In case you are blinded by the big advertisment on job vacancies, do you know (besides govt agencies) most of booth were manned by Head hunters, manpower services? No prize given if you get the answer right as to who the latter would rather pick their candidates.

Originally Posted by JeffKL

who cares about ur frens with diplomas? probably only u!

This type of answer I get. Arrogant attitude. Just like some of our Ministers. Lets not waste time discussing.

Originally Posted by JeffKL

so why don't u do yourself and everyone here a favour, quit ur job, and give ur job to your fren! be a hero! save the day! while you're at it, wear ur red underwear outside too to sure ur sincerity!

Hm..you are the only Msian guy I have problem with incase you are blind and ignorant. Just refer to all the posting here. I got no problem with any other Msian bros here. I even praised Mr Professor.

One of your Msian guys upped me. What does that shows? Sympathetic or otherwise, points aside cos most of my Msian frens in Msia or working here all understand the plight we are facing. Except you. Thats why I said no use to carry on our discussion .

Originally Posted by JeffKL

as far as ur weak arguements show, you've been the one giving all the stereotype answers and weak rebuttals. i've given you nothing less than a stellar economic report of 2 countries and qualified challenges to any singaporean who can prove me wrong. but sadly, no one did cos the truth hurts, doesn't it? hello brother, wake up ur idea man!

Unlike you at least I care for my unfortunate frens who were retrenched, who had hard time looking for job past 7 mths, at least I help my fellow workpermit Msian workers/frens be it skill/unskill jobs. At least I am not selfish. I cheong with msian frens, eat with them and work with them. They are in a better position to know the many sporean plights much better than you.

Ya. Big deal! Posting some economic link and brag here and there! Look, smart alac. Dont keep repeating your achievement here. Anyone can just copy paste. I cant be bothered. This my 3rd time I repeat again. I know nuts about economic data. Like I alway said, why dont you do everyone a favour here by consulting an optician?

Jobs aplenty. So what? As usual, most given to foreign talents. I did not side track and I always stay focus and my issue has always been on foreign talent. YOu are the one who cant provide answers. Already posted here some of real life experience which Sporean are experiencing. But you keep evading the real issue.

Nobody is challenging which countries in terms of economic progress is better. But the truth is, unlike Msia, most professional jobs in spore are given to foreigner including student pass (what have you to say on this? Blah blah blah other countries also practise such what...thats your standard reply I suppose.) Mingle with people fm all walks of life, than you will know whats really happening here. Not in Jb or Kl. Hello "soldier", wake up your idea, "sporean"!

[Xdecepticon]

Originally Posted by The_Unrepentant

abt the foregin talent crap, it is better they come here than go elsewhere like malaysia as we will suffer even more in the end. one way or another we will face competition.

Bro, the foreign talent crap if replace jobs which sporean rejected, if unable to find any suitable sporean canditate, I say BY ALL MEANS THEY ARE WELCOME HERE IN SPORE. But I see most of the jobs taken up by these so-called foreign talent can be easily filled by qualified sporean. Now, I hope you not like our Mr know all, who would not hesitate to say maybe sporean are fussy. Thats why given to foreign talent. Of course if you are a sporean, we all also know why the garment introduce such a policy. You aware now garment also encouraging employer to employ foreigner on student pass too? Tourist on vacation also can look for jobs in spore too. Are you aware, bro? So you tell us especially in this particular area, how does this policy talent policy help those qualified but retrenched and unemployed? Tell me, a sporean, drawing a mthly pay $2000. Hardly can make ends meet rite? No jobs, can we set up a stall in spore? No rite. At least in Msian, jobless Msian could do that, in the open some more.

Originally Posted by The_Unrepentant

I believe in meritocracy. don care is malay, chinese indian, prc or bangla. the capable ones should do the job. If not how else are we diff frm the malaysian gov whereby only malays can hold important position?

Agree...only capables one. But frankly, if you the boss, would you employ a sporean and pay him$2k or you rather employ a filipino or PRC by paying him $1.2K, both equally qualified in terms of experience??

[Joseph81]

Radzi: Papa has no choice but to accept government scheme

PETALING JAYA: The Malaysian Association of Foreign Housemaids Agencies (Papa) has no choice but to accept the government-backed insurance scheme for foreign maids.

Home Minister Datuk Seri Radzi Sheikh Ahmad said the new government-proposed insurance was a “good scheme” and will be worth the money.

He said the scheme was a government policy that must be obeyed by employers.

“Papa has to accept the scheme,” he said.

On Wednesday, Razdi announced the Government’s insurance coverage. The annual RM75 insurance coverage to be administered by a government-linked company will cover accidents, death and healthcare.

Radzi said Papa should wait for the more details of the scheme, to be announced at the end of the month, before making objections.

“Our policy is that if you are here as a legal (foreign) maid, you are insured. We are the party that will control this,” he added.

But Papa said that it would not support the government-backed insurance scheme because it was expensive and monopolistic.

It president Datuk Raja Zulkepley Dahalan said the association would support any insurance scheme that could provide better coverage and have lower premium but not the one proposed by the Government.

“We also oppose any form of monopoly of housemaids’ insurance in Malaysia,” he said.

He said the proposal introduced by Papa was only RM48 a year and RM75 for two years, but the government’s scheme costs RM75 a year.

The Papa-proposed insurance scheme is underwritten by a consortium consisting of Takaful Amanah HSBC Bhd, Takaful Ikhlas Bhd, Allianz General Insurance Company (Malaysia) Bhd and Jerneh Insurance Bhd.

After reading this piece of news, I got so pissed, who said singapore govt is as bad as malaysian govt if not worse?

After the Formena, now this, though I don't know much about Singapore policy, please enlighten me on this

Does Singapore implement policy like this, in Malaysia we do.

- maids to undergo medical checkup thro FORMENA (own by ex PM's daughter)
- Soon the above news mentioned
- Toll concessionaire, to increase the charges after certain years even though the company is making money. If the company is making a loss, government will compensate the company
- Eyes of Malaysia, the company will compensate any losses incurred to the operating company for the ticket sales loss
- additional Medical checkup for transport driver (Deffered for now as too many protest, maybe due to coming election)
- Monopolized the selling of rice (Bernas)

Maybe I missed out a few, anyone care to add?

[Joseph81]

Originally Posted by Xdecepticon

I only emphasize on foreign talents issue. There are also many other issues but still manageable. Thats why I did not discuss here. I rather not waste bandwidth to discuss non-important issue like Cat 40 bonk and baby bonus.



I am saying you post nothing but praising sky high on Spore garment...like as though the latter is flawless.



Well, there were also some postings of yours which I also dont deem fit that you should throw at me too. Ok, my mistake there. Will take note of that in future...which I doubt so.



Problem with you is that you ALWAY like to jump to conclusion. Just like all of your previous post. I am not just voicing out my diploma frens plight. At the rate this "foreign talent" policy is going, it definitely will affect future generations to come. We are talking about our children future. Have you consider that Mr know all? Now I am asking you how would you feel if you are in my frens position? Sure, your answer would be blah blah blah, go vote for other parties rite? Not all Sporean are like you when come to voting. Big head rules over over hearts. Theres simply no existing political parties that could match our present garment in terms of experience, maturity. As to your decision to vote your opposition parties be it DAP, MIC OR EVEN PAS, I have no comment. I have hopes for Msia and migrating there is always in my card.



Again. Teaching a croc how to swim or should I say teaching sporean where to look for girls to bonk. Since when did I say unemployment rate is at all time high! If you carry on putting words in my mouth, then theres nothing to discuss again in future. Sheesh.

JOBSDB at Suntec City? Sure. Like I always say (refer to my previous post which I keep saying jobs are abundant in Spore) most of the employers would rather employ foreigners than Sporean with the blessing of the garment of course. Why priorities to the foreigners? You ask my garment which I doubt you dont know the answer. Talk about job placement. In case you are blinded by the big advertisment on job vacancies, do you know (besides govt agencies) most of booth were manned by Head hunters, manpower services? No prize given if you get the answer right as to who the latter would rather pick their candidates.



This type of answer I get. Arrogant attitude. Just like some of our Ministers. Lets not waste time discussing.



Hm..you are the only Msian guy I have problem with incase you are blind and ignorant. Just refer to all the posting here. I got no problem with any other Msian bros here. I even praised Mr Professor.

One of your Msian guys upped me. What does that shows? Sympathetic or otherwise, points aside cos most of my Msian frens in Msia or working here all understand the plight we are facing. Except you. Thats why I said no use to carry on our discussion .



Unlike you at least I care for my unfortunate frens who were retrenched, who had hard time looking for job past 7 mths, at least I help my fellow workpermit Msian workers/frens be it skill/unskill jobs. At least I am not selfish. I cheong with msian frens, eat with them and work with them. They are in a better position to know the many sporean plights much better than you.

Ya. Big deal! Posting some economic link and brag here and there! Look, smart alac. Dont keep repeating your achievement here. Anyone can just copy paste. I cant be bothered. This my 3rd time I repeat again. I know nuts about economic data. Like I alway said, why dont you do everyone a favour here by consulting an optician?

Jobs aplenty. So what? As usual, most given to foreign talents. I did not side track and I always stay focus and my issue has always been on foreign talent. YOu are the one who cant provide answers. Already posted here some of real life experience which Sporean are experiencing. But you keep evading the real issue.

Nobody is challenging which countries in terms of economic progress is better. But the truth is, unlike Msia, most professional jobs in spore are given to foreigner including student pass (what have you to say on this? Blah blah blah other countries also practise such what...thats your standard reply I suppose.) Mingle with people fm all walks of life, than you will know whats really happening here. Not in Jb or Kl. Hello "soldier", wake up your idea, "sporean"!

I think u r a disgrace to Singapore, maybe I was wrong assuming u r a Singaporean Chinese, the way u wrote sounds more like Malaysia Malay who always wishes for money to fall from the sky and guess what, it did on Malaysian sky but only selected few can get a share on that. No wonder u r constantly praising our government, I hope from now on, we can cease this disscussion as we have finally understand from ur point of view.


As far as I know everyone in Singapore need to work hard to make a living while helping the country to grow, alas Singapore has made impressive progress in the region over the years unlike Malaysia. Almost every year when the report card came out for the country from International bodies, ranging from crime rate, human rights, education.....etc, our government will be quick to deny the accuracy of the report, obviously they have their own mean of measurement, which explains why we are lagging behind many countries that was behind us previously.

Last but not least, if Singapore is much worst than Malaysia, I think this thread should change its name to "Please be careful - Daylight Robbery in Singapore"

[localhunter]

Is this a friendly debate? Or a war? Well, i suggest la that you should drop this debate. After read all your post, i don't see the point of arguing. It doesnt matter who are the best, as long as we live happily and satisfy with what we are and who we are. Singapore or Malaysia, both also great country. The most important is --> we live under ASEAN and we're neighbor and FRIEND !

CHEERS !!

[Orgasmic]

I was driving into JB for business at 6am in the morning this morning - a weekday.

Totally no jam at all towards JB side at 6am and I can tell u that 99% of Singaporean workers in Singapore are probably still sleeping. Even Singapore custom office, a Malay boy was sleeping so peacefully at his seat ( check fuel guage area ) that I dint want to disturb him but drove past him quietly.

At the causeway, thousands of motorists were honking incessantly and blaring headlights, literally jamming up every nook and canny of the Causeway. Lorries, cars, esp motorbikes jammed up the entire causeway towards Singapore.

Towards Malaysia on the same causeway, about 1-2 cars.

Can these 300,000 motorists coming into Singapore to work be WRONG?

It is easy to say that living in Malaysia is better than living in Singapore but if u havent noticed, these are those who actually earn Singapore dollars. Those who earn Ringgit can hardly get by.

I may not like to stay in Singapore but staying in Malaysia is definitely out. I have seen for myself the obvious race discrimination and serious corruption from education to transport. Not that i dont like corruption but it must still keep the country running. Malaysia corruption is too serious and harmful to the economy and social beings.

Indonesian malay robbers caught for robbery, car jacking, rapes, snatch thieves etc by the public-spirited Chinese and Indian... beaten up ... and handed over to the Malay polis today.. The malay polis drive these robbers back to Station only to RELEASE them on the spot and the next week, the same robbers come back to rob and rape.

Many guys dont know that what the media has been reporting on Malaysia is not only true but they have tried to contain the seriousness already. The crime problem is extremely serious that thousands of petrol stations throughout Malaysia has been robbed AT LEAST once a year. Compare that with Singapore. Who dares to rob petrol stations here??? I pump diesel in Singapore at 4am regularly and i dont feel a threat to my security AT ALL.

I pump petrol in Johor anytime, I look around for people waiting to HAMMER me from behind.. I literally look up, left and right through the ordeal or pumping petrol even though it was supposed to be leisurely.

Even if you dont like Singapore ( like me ), let me, a resident of JB and Singapore educate u that JB is definitely not the answer to you if u decide to evict from Singapore.

[Joseph81]

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