How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

[Harvest]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

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Let her be in this way....
Let her KC the very good guy friend who she admit is her boyfriend now.

Finally deleted her number from my hp and also deleted her from my heart
KangTuo is better off picking up vn gals in pubs then holding on

Good, bro. Enjoyed reading your chronicles... Keep them coming!

Originally Posted by Fuckster

OMG I actually printed out all posts by Bro Harvest in this thread hahaha, maybe I should scan all copies and make it into an e book, next time if any bros got KC-ed, i will email him this precious guide by Bro Harvest.

Haha. Hey, if you happen to make it into a ebook pls email me a copy too. Thanks!

Originally Posted by rantvsrave

...I was doing her really hard for a good 15-20 mins in the missionary position when she suddenly asked me to do it to her raw. You heard it. RAW. She even asked me to cum inside her as she said she wanted to have my baby. Even till this day, I still can figure out what prompted her to say that. Could it have been my boyish good looks? the sweet nothings I said to her? (you're so cute I wish you can be my girlfriend, I wish you can come stay with me, I'd go back to thailand with you if I can). During this time, she was also tugging at the base of the condom, as though she was tearing it out. I was scared, happy and confused. Part me of was saying just cum in her and enjoy while the other part was telling me not to be stupid and get diseased. As a young man with a huge ego, what was I to do? ...

Young man, the solution is very simple: deflate your ego first before you go for another session next time round. Cheers!

[Harvest]

Originally Posted by Akagahara

First off just want to say I LOVE this thread and kudos to Harvest for starting it and everyone who contributed. I noticed that most of the replies here are how not to get KCed and coming from the Lau Jiaos here it must really work. However, I would like to share my tried but not really proven formula to KC without being KCed yourself too much.

1) First few bonks sure hav to pay but limit to max 3 bonks. If after 3 bonks still must pay (discount also included) then time to move on. Of course within the first 3, must do all the KC things lah, like whisper sweet nothings, talk like lovers blah blah blah. HOWEVER, at NO time shld you bring out for shopping or buy expensive gifts or even give high tips. Small things like snacks and water is ok. Which brings me to point 2.
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That is a good target to set for the bonking, bro. And for the makan just settle at coffeshops will do. Maybe once in a while can bring her to eat steamboat or other better meals but the point is don't spoil her!

Originally Posted by sadman

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I admit I have developed KC for her already. However, its not a KC game, as no monetary was involved. Its a routine F*** and pay approach during the session. The feeling gets stronger from calls/sms after her work ends, dinner dates and going back malaysia with her.
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I have her Malaysia line, but I am stopping myself from contacting her as I cannot promise her anything. Hence I am waiting to see if she'll initiate the first step. She has high EQ... so, cannot be sure how things will evolve.

I never thought this would happen to me, but human nature ba.....

Any bro in similiar situation before?...

Yea hell, I've been through that road too! Welcome to the club. Bro, KC game does not only involve $$$. KC game is a mind game... it is about psychological dominance. The $$$ is a by-product if one side of the force is much greater than the other. And guess what, she is probably waiting for you to make the first move too before she strategies her next step.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Harvest

Good, bro. Enjoyed reading your chronicles... Keep them coming!

i thought i have ended the story about me and number2

[HitManHeart WL]

Bro Harvest,

Wonder have you read my encounter posted in the Legal geylang scene?
Maybe can you share your views on the matter?

Lastly, it was enlightening over my end after reading your posts on KC matters early this year and it has changed my perspective in commercial sex.

Cheers!
HMH WL

[wala]

Wao lao, this thread is a treasure box. Spend 1 hr reading and only at page 13. Need more time to absorb and disgest all the input.

To me, KC or KCed is just a game. The WL/FL is alway clear that they are playing a game with us. So from the start, we should also know this is a game. How to play it, depends on the indivdual. But the most basic requirement, must be able to afford the $$ and the time. $$ is basic, for a start and for all on going process, TIME is also important factor. If one does not even have enuff "private" time, dun risk ur relationship with OC.

It is true KC bonks are enjoyable, but to what extend one's willing to give up for them? Need a break, will be back after I finished reading previous posts. Keep those inputs cumming, better than go 西天取经。

[Harvest]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

i thought i have ended the story about me and number2

Waiting for number3! Cheers!

Originally Posted by HitManHeart WL

Bro Harvest,

Wonder have you read my encounter posted in the Legal geylang scene?
Maybe can you share your views on the matter?

Lastly, it was enlightening over my end after reading your posts on KC matters early this year and it has changed my perspective in commercial sex.

Cheers!
HMH WL

Yes bro. I refrained from commenting because generally I agree with the other bros' response to your postings. Specifically, I'm in the view that you should not have exposed the WL's identity in the first place, no matter how noble your intention was to begin with. Nevertheless, it was an enjoyable read and brought back those good old days of my cat150 cheonging days.

Originally Posted by wala

Wao lao, this thread is a treasure box. Spend 1 hr reading and only at page 13. Need more time to absorb and disgest all the input.

To me, KC or KCed is just a game. The WL/FL is alway clear that they are playing a game with us. So from the start, we should also know this is a game. How to play it, depends on the indivdual. But the most basic requirement, must be able to afford the $$ and the time. $$ is basic, for a start and for all on going process, TIME is also important factor. If one does not even have enuff "private" time, dun risk ur relationship with OC.

It is true KC bonks are enjoyable, but to what extend one's willing to give up for them? Need a break, will be back after I finished reading previous posts. Keep those inputs cumming, better than go 西天取经。

Well said, bro. That is why it is a mind game that is not for the fainthearted because the emotional stakes are high. It is a highly delicate psychological balancing act between maximizing a bonking experience while keeping one's ego in check. I think you have just given me some inspiration to write my next article after such a long break...Thanks dude!

[sadman]

Yea hell, I've been through that road too! Welcome to the club. Bro, KC game does not only involve $$$. KC game is a mind game... it is about psychological dominance. The $$$ is a by-product if one side of the force is much greater than the other. And guess what, she is probably waiting for you to make the first move too before she strategies her next step.[/QUOTE]


Timing is an issue.... still yearns for her

[crashalot]

Will ask a noob question: what is "KC" and "WL"? I generally get the idea but wants to know what these abbreviations stand for?

Good thread, much wisdom ....

[charko221]

kc - kum cheng, wl - working lady.

Bro harvest good job n ur use of nlp to solve our kc prob. Side track abit, where did u pick up from? I learn it as well, but can't seem to use it to influence others.

[sadman]

Got her call finally. She is still settling her personal matters. Will be meeting her next month when she comes to Singapore. The call lasted 15 minutes, but it seems like
eternity now that I look back, nothing much was said, and she seems so helpless.

It is heaven's will, not something money can solve also. But she's taking it in her stride.

I miss her at times, but I do not want to call her, not wanting to disturb her and she mentioned before that she will call me again.

On the surface, time seems to fade off the feelings, but on the other end, I do not know what will happen next. I am afraid of making the wrong promise or commmittment. Shall wait till we meet up for to take the next step.

[Harvest]

Originally Posted by charko221

kc - kum cheng, wl - working lady.

Bro harvest good job n ur use of nlp to solve our kc prob. Side track abit, where did u pick up from? I learn it as well, but can't seem to use it to influence others.

Well, I sort of improvised my general NLP knowledge to suit the commercial sex context and refined the techniques over the years. Didn't learn from any specific sources.

Originally Posted by sadman

Got her call finally. She is still settling her personal matters. Will be meeting her next month when she comes to Singapore. The call lasted 15 minutes, but it seems like
eternity now that I look back, nothing much was said, and she seems so helpless.

It is heaven's will, not something money can solve also. But she's taking it in her stride.

I miss her at times, but I do not want to call her, not wanting to disturb her and she mentioned before that she will call me again.

On the surface, time seems to fade off the feelings, but on the other end, I do not know what will happen next. I am afraid of making the wrong promise or commmittment. Shall wait till we meet up for to take the next step.

Seems like you are still in control... good. But it will come to a point where you will need to make some tough decisions as the emotional baggage continues to weigh on your shoulders, bro. Take care and do keep us informed of the progress.

[wala]

Only managed to read till page 24 of this thread. Will need another break before I dig more treasures out from here. 1 thing I would like to comment is WHY and WHAT bros are looking for in the KC game.

WHY and WHAT? Is it hoping to get free fantastic bonks? I’m not saying that is impossible, but that should not be the objective. Even if u managed to steal a couple of success in your course, it will not last long and will reflect badly on you, worst if word gets around.

The main reason we commit time and resources into playing this highly dangerous and thrilling game, is like what many post have mentioned, and I would like to hammer it into some new cheongsters. KC to get maximum satisfaction from commercial sex, it is still commercial, just with more emotion and passion involved to really make your brain believe you are having a heavenly sexual experience. Almost like having a lover or some1 who feels “making love” with you is an enjoyable time, not just a transaction. Most of the time in the KC game, men is bonking a gal “in his mind”, not the physical gal lying in the bed. It is kind of like a shortcut for those that have “lost that loving feeling”, and could not have the chance, time, or target to relive that “loving feeling”. Played carefully, and executed nicely, you would be able to enjoy “love” with calculated expenses, fantastic sexual outings, and something for you to smile for at the end of the day. WL/FL are also humans, they know their purpose here. But if they are able to achieve their target at the end of the day, and having a enjoyable and relaxing time during the process, why would they refuse to play this game with you?

There is no win or lose in the KC game, we get what we need, they get what they want. If it is just looking for a hole to release our excessive millions of protein, we wouldn’t be playing the KC game. So end of the day, you will find out that you did get what you need, the next thing you will find out is that have you incurred more cost than expected. Then comes the question, is it worth it? That will depend on the individual. But whatever the case maybe, in time to come, some will learn to really gain some sort of control over the execution of the game, some will sink into a deep depression. The 1st group will continue to enjoy the thrills of this game, until they “retire”, or till they join the 2nd group. The second group would have wished they never started playing.

[LCL7788]

Originally Posted by wala

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KC to get maximum satisfaction from commercial sex, it is still commercial, just with more emotion and passion involved to really make your brain believe you are having a heavenly sexual experience.
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Played carefully, and executed nicely, you would be able to enjoy “love” with calculated expenses, fantastic sexual outings, and something for you to smile for at the end of the day.

Bro you are right. This thread is a treasure trove of info for those who wish to jump into the fray.
It spells out clearly what must be done to achieve maximum satisfaction and ROI.
It tells you the importance of setting objectives and moderating expectations. And the kind of red flags and pitfalls a player has to watch out for. And many other interesting stuf.
I personally believe there are a lot of successful bros.
but there are also plenty of sob stories.

Why arh?

A formula and guide is a good thing. In theory.
But on the ground might not be so easy to separate A from B or look at things so objectively & dispassionately.

You are right to call it "love" but some bros still prefer to see it as love.
Are they bullshitting themselves cuz of ego issues? 99.9% yes.
I think no matter what it is important to keep an emergency get me back to reality mental checklist.
Emphasize the commercial nature to yourself.
While you are in it enjoy it go with the flow and pretend its all real.
But snap out of it and get sober the moment it is over.
None of it is true so why hold on to a fake thing?
Even if it feels good its only cuz of the $$$$ you invested.
Its a role playing game.
You play your part so long as your finances allow it and she does hers.
If you try to go way off the script and expect something else whose fault is it? The whore's or yours?
When the allocated time slot is over its over and you dont think about it.
Just treat it as an extended F&F. Okay so therez some followup after the fuck so its longer than your typical single fuck one-off and you enjoy it while it lasts but you still got to fling it away and forget it one day.
Dont pretend a KC experience will be more than what you pay for.
Its not about feelings or bonds at all cuz the emotions thrown in are just theatrics for you to enjoy.
Its a business contract. Got anything else meh?
Fools who see it otherwise will always end up suffering. Why bother then? Is the kick that good to be worth the damage that follows? Go ask them.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Originally Posted by Harvest

.......my next article after such a long break...

Brother Harvest, thank you for this guide. Btw, your next article will be a continuing education that encompassing within this KC spectrum or a new guide?

[sadman]

Bro Harvest, thanks for the pre-warning.. I hope I am clear headed and aware of the consequences...

Hope all things goes smoothly. Be it with or without her. Also hoping all the best
for her, as in my opinion, she is a really nice girl whom I can click with. Else I wouldnt be writing in this section also.

Will be updating again....