The Truth About Batam

[JOGK]

Originally Posted by TheUnforgiven

Most prostitutes are in this line for one reason: greed. There are women who would rather stay poor and able to eat just a meal a day than to sell her body, and there are those who rather starve to death as well. "Feeding the family" is a repetitive and unconvincing excuse for what they are doing. It doesn't only apply to Batam but everywhere. Of course there are exceptions, but like I said, they are exceptions.

Remember, it always take two hands to clap. So please stop lambasting at us "Singaporeans" for turning Batam into a sin island. FYI, if you think I'm just making excuses for myself, I have never been to Batam and I am no longer doing commercial sex.

most of these gals comes from poor families back their kampongs
some got deals here to repay debts
some were trick or maybe an excuse to work here
i think use trick as to cover their pride
they are humans too
what they earn and living standard here is much much more and better back
at their hometown
though they hate being touch by strangers for money sake
they soon learn or accept for what they are
after years of that kind of living
they are stucked
if they go back to their homeland
they will missed the high living standard in batam
though they missed their families back home when they are in batam
thats why you can see most of them went back and return very soon

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by DNAT

But .... I understand that the other major Indo cities such as Jkt and Surabaya are similarly infested with KTV joints, fuck shops and other form of illicit activities - even more extreme than Batam ....

What are you gonna do? ....

DNAT, I agree with you. I been to Jakarta, and other cities in Indo land. I seen and done some of the worst I can ever imagine at those places. Batam Hater.. If you think BAtam is bad, wait until you travel to more places around the world and you will understand that Batam is "soft" compared to what you see in other places.

Batam is a place where many people come to work, be it in wat ever trade. All of them are them to make $$$. Not to mention that 70% of the industries set up there are co-owned by the Singaporeans, Japanese and other nationalities. Seriously, many ceweks are there for the $, so are the people there investing in industries.

Back to the cewek issues. Kamu mau tong kat? Bisa. Wang jukop.
Want to fuck? $$$ enough ok. As for the ah peks and uncles who go there to spend on the gals there. Wat is wrong on that? Dont tell me u dont fantasies abt woman? Even when u masterbate? U think of guys? Give me a break. Get a normal life. Man need woman, and so do woman need man. It is a yin and yang principle. Both are attracted to each other. Normal of nature.

If you had a bad experience in Batam, you can always write it out here, what happened. I am sure many brothers will appricate your efforts on what happen and avoid that. We are here to contribute, not to quarrel. And to share.
Good day.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by DNAT

It is reported that a conservative estimate of 600 Sillypore men flock to Batam on every weekend, lets round it up to 1,000 for the entire week Amnesty International - receives large sums of donations from generous individual/corporate donors annually

Batam ceweks - receive Rp ? from ??? - Rupiahs fall from sky ya?

I guess the figure is much higher than 1000 per week.....based on my own observation.

Not to forget those old woman who frequent there for casinos. Believe me, woman are more casino savy than us guys, especially the old woman. If you dont believe, just open your eyes and watch.


So we are actually helping their economy.

[TheUnforgiven]

Originally Posted by JOGK

most of these gals comes from poor families back their kampongs
some got deals here to repay debts
some were trick or maybe an excuse to work here
i think use trick as to cover their pride
they are humans too
what they earn and living standard here is much much more and better back
at their hometown
though they hate being touch by strangers for money sake
they soon learn or accept for what they are
after years of that kind of living
they are stucked
if they go back to their homeland
they will missed the high living standard in batam
though they missed their families back home when they are in batam
thats why you can see most of them went back and return very soon

With all due respect to you, please explain to me why the other side of poverty, that is those girls who choose to remain in their villages not go work in that line. There is no excuse for working as a prostitute. Wanting easy money is wanting easy money, the truth is as good as it gets.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by TheUnforgiven

With all due respect to you, please explain to me why the other side of poverty, that is those girls who choose to remain in their villages not go work in that line. There is no excuse for working as a prostitute. Wanting easy money is wanting easy money, the truth is as good as it gets.

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[Libra]

Originally Posted by AhBengKeong

knn.....let me add back for u

HAHaaa... thank you so much... BTW/// how do I add repute points for others?

[sassina2]

THE TRUTH ABOUT BATAM

1) Its only a 60 minutes ride away and very convenient,

2) Everyone is welcome be they "ah peks", "ah sohs", "aunties", "all colours of skins", "rich or poor", tourists, gamblers, shoppers, f*&%&rs, - all, everyone is welcome!

3) While there are some ladies of other nationalities to cater for the odd taste buds, the major ladies available are "ceweks" - those LBFMs (little brown fucking machines) they are an acquired taste; not everyone's cup of tea but, once you're into it, theres no stopping your prick thinking for you.

4) The girls are affordable and so are the hotels, the food and other services so long as you take the trouble not to behave like silly idiots out to get ripped off.

5) Like many border towns, Batam is rather "scrappy" and not "neat and clean" like the homeland of Sillypore. So, don't expect that or, you are better off staying at home sucking your thumb and masturbating.

6) Being in Indonesia, most of the ceweks speak Indonesian. However, money motivates and they learn Singapore language very quickly. Don't be surprised to hear the ladies say "cho kang", "wah lan", "chee bye", "wah lau" etc . Unfortunately, we "ah peks" tend to use this kind of language and they learn from us.

7) All the discos play trance type music and the patrons tend to get into ubat (estacy) and other drugs. But, you need not be the fool to join them and then get arrested when you come back to Sillypore. They can take their ubat and you can drink yourself silly and still have a good time.

8) Gambling is gambling whether it is legal or illegal. If its illegal, you support private enterprise and if its legal, you make "some" more powerful so they can also pay themselves more and talk louder and louder and claim more credit for being so smart. Corruption of power is no different if not worse.

9) In Batam, they really appreciate your patronage and business and almost kiss your arse for being there. I love my arse being kissed even if I am not gay!

10) Almost every Indonesian girl whether working lady or otherwise is hospitable and friendly and if you ask, you will get a decent positive response. If a girl has a HP, you are almost always able to get her number and possibly a date and into her pants! Its great for the ego and I love to massage my ego as often as possible and in the process, have my prick massaged too.

In the worst case, you go into the disco and the ladies will pick you up (even if you are ah pek like me) and, you get to choose who you want without going bankrupt. Never can you get half the fun in Sillypore at those prices!

11) It costs a small fortune to exist in Sillypore even if you are not doing much. You save yourself a bomb just by leaving Sillypore and going to another cheaper place and Batam happens to be the most convenient for the poor folks like me.

12) The business of sex, gambling, entertainment, tourism - all sorts of business is ORGANISED and CONTROLLED whether its in Batam or Sillypore. In Sillypore, the major business is in the hands of the government and the government is run by the ................. In Batam, its in the hands of private enterprise and those with the gumption and are smart and quick off their feet. I never envy or criticse such people because given an opportunity, I would do my own thing too. In Sillypore, where go chance?

Better, in Batam, you have many choices - you can choose which casino gives you better service and decide if they deserve your money. If you in Sillypore, and you are "ah pek", (like me) "ah soh" or auntie, they won't allow you to go inside.

Only the likes of the upper crass like batamhater will be admited.

I LOVE BATAM and much of Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and Phillipines and man other places. Sillypore, no choice, I was born here!

[JOGK]

Originally Posted by TheUnforgiven

With all due respect to you, please explain to me why the other side of poverty, that is those girls who choose to remain in their villages not go work in that line. There is no excuse for working as a prostitute. Wanting easy money is wanting easy money, the truth is as good as it gets.

those lucky ones stay in their villages because....
their parents still can manage
they havent got cheated
those unlucky ones.......
their heavily debted parents choose one or two for sacrifices
they got cheated by their boy friends
they got children by their former husbands
there are many other reasons

[TheUnforgiven]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

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[TheUnforgiven]

Originally Posted by JOGK

those lucky ones stay in their villages because....
their parents still can manage
they havent got cheated
those unlucky ones.......
their heavily debted parents choose one or two for sacrifices
they got cheated by their boy friends
they got children by their former husbands
there are many other reasons

those cases as I mentioned in my earlier post are exceptions. surely you are not telling me you believe each and everyone of their sob stories?

[DNAT]

Originally Posted by JOGK

most of these gals comes from poor families back their kampongs
some got deals here to repay debts
some were trick or maybe an excuse to work here
i think use trick as to cover their pride
they are humans too
what they earn and living standard here is much much more and better back
at their hometown
though they hate being touch by strangers for money sake
they soon learn or accept for what they are
after years of that kind of living
they are stucked
if they go back to their homeland
they will missed the high living standard in batam
though they missed their families back home when they are in batam
thats why you can see most of them went back and return very soon

Good info and analysis ....
J, perhaps you forgot to mention that Batam is regarded by many Indo gals across the nation as a land of opportunities. Many gals have arrive Batam not only to seek money but more importantly hope to marry to a guy so as to begin a better life in another land.

Previously, I booked a cewek from Mega KTV and months later went to look for her again. The mami said: "Maria huh? kay ker SinkarPo liao loh ..."

Recently, I met up with a regular FL from Batam in which she called me to inform me that she had arrived in Sg. During our short meet, she started to propose to ask me to marry her claiming that she could cook and do house chores for me. When I told her that I still wanna cheong Batam, she claimed that she would allow me to go. When asked won't she feel jealous? she explained: "I don't think about you going to flirt with other gal; just think as you go Batam to drink/tour ..." Will you buy that?

[DNAT]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

DNAT, I agree with you. I been to Jakarta, and other cities in Indo land. I seen and done some of the worst I can ever imagine at those places. Batam Hater..

Dont tell me u dont fantasies abt woman? Even when u masterbate? U think of guys? Give me a break. Get a normal life.

If you had a bad experience in Batam, you can always write it out here, what happened. I am sure many brothers will appricate your efforts on what happen and avoid that.

NYK88:
1. Where are your weirdo doing FRs?
2. "Women .... always on a man's mind" - Sigmund Freud
3. He already clearly stated that Sillyporeans turn Batam into a bad place ... didn't he?

[DNAT]

Originally Posted by TheUnforgiven

There is no excuse for working as a prostitute. Wanting easy money is wanting easy money, the truth is as good as it gets.

Looking at Indo's unemployment rate and average annual income per capita, the statistical figures explain why so many gals opt to join the flesh trade. The drastic unequal distribution of income still exists despite many international monetary aids have been given.

Also, its sad to say some chinese family even want to marry their daugthers out of the country (within weeks) during the political unrest few years back.

Not that these ceweks are earning our bonking fees to build a bungalow or to purchase a new automobile in their home land (although some might which is relatively rare). They are merely trying to make their ends of basic necessities meet (eg. food, shelter, clothes) - the lowest level on the Hierarchy of Needs by Maslow's.

Given the frequent/dramatic political instabilities and sluggish economic performance despite its abundant natural resources, it is no wonder many gals flock to Batam to seek a 'easier' life.

[JOGK]

Originally Posted by TheUnforgiven

those cases as I mentioned in my earlier post are exceptions. surely you are not telling me you believe each and everyone of their sob stories?

well
mine is divorced and had one child
i dont think she need to bluff me

[JOGK]

Originally Posted by DNAT

Looking at Indo's unemployment rate and average annual income per capita, the statistical figures explain why so many gals opt to join the flesh trade. The drastic unequal distribution of income still exists despite many international monetary aids have been given.

Also, its sad to say some chinese family even want to marry their daugthers out of the country (within weeks) during the political unrest few years back.

Not that these ceweks are earning our bonking fees to build a bungalow or to purchase a new automobile in their home land (although some might which is relatively rare). They are merely trying to make their ends of basic necessities meet (eg. food, shelter, clothes) - the lowest level on the Hierarchy of Needs by Maslow's.

Given the frequent/dramatic political instabilities and sluggish economic performance despite its abundant natural resources, it is no wonder many gals flock to Batam to seek a 'easier' life.

actually if you believe history
most countries are the same
thailand is one of them