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Old 19-09-2008, 09:01 AM
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Re: I never thought it would happen to me

[QUOTE=weiwei09]Ya. I ever tot that she might want to KC me. But it turned out that she didnt. I am happy to know that.
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Ts, she didn't or she dun have to or she already did but u are not aware?

If I am her, this is how i would play this game.

On your 2nd visit, she already knew that u like her, do a personality studies on what type of man u are. Yes they can tell who is telling the truth and who is just playing with them, they deal with that all the time.

So for your case, all she need to do is to gently push u away ie telling u not to come GL again, telling u not to think too much, concentrate on your studies. This in fact will makes u come right back and even fall deeper. Coz u be thinking she is not trying to KC u and she is a good gal.

While pushing u away, she will send one or two sms to keep your hope alive. So that u two can continue as frens. Since she already has a bf, the best status u can hope for is close fren right? So she will tell u more abt herself so that u feel u know her better. Then she will share with u some secrets that she never told anyone but u, coz she feel comfortable with u, trust u and know that u would never hurt her... Best is to tell sad story, if able to shed a few tears, definite score high marks, definitely won your trust. And u feel like a special fren to her.
(Note: the a/m is a common trick that many gals use to keep and hang backup bfs)

So now u begin to think u are special to her, your mind starts to tell u that her kisses seems different, holding hands seems so natural, u are making love and not just bonking her... Your mind keep looking for evidences that she feels the same way too. Small gestures like when u are sick, she sms u to take care of your health, or even buy med for u scores a 100 pts. Soon u will be asking her how she feels abt you, she say she feel happy when with u, feel like her own self, but she has a bf already. And keeps u hanging.

Next, she probably intro her frens to you, and u makes u feel that u are in her life.

(Sorry i still green in this line so may have left out some details)

TS, u probably felt that something isn't right, and ur alarm has been triggered ya?
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Old 19-09-2008, 09:26 AM
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Re: I never thought it would happen to me

i agree, many a time it is very hard to act rationally when you are in love, or maybe not in love, say when you 'become attracted'. You know what you r doing is foolish, but at the same time you can't stop yourself from doing it.

I should say, the advise will be given by the bros here. But taking it or believing it ultimately is up to you. I feel that you are a smart person, and you already know what to do. My good frens and all the senior bro always say, must pamper our xiao di di, but; Don't always let our xiao di di take over us, we r the one with the logic, they are the one with the impulse!

Sometimes facing it head on is also a ways to settle everything, just go in and be mentally prepared and try to be financially wise ... hope you discovered the answer you want... =]

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Old 19-09-2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: I never thought it would happen to me

The KC trap had happened. I can't believe it.

Smsed her yesterday that I have straightened out my thoughts. She asked what thoughts. I said next time then say la. She say she knows its sth regarding her. I said yes I already wake myself up from this dream. She said good and that she's happy for me and if she deserve any credit?

She then continued to ask if I can give her a present? I said I might not be able to, givien that I am just a student by day and tutor by night. I asked her what is it. She said not more than $500. She said she saw a gold bracelet that she likes when she went to pearl centre. She wants to wear it everyday.

I saw it coming. "Jiang hai shi lao de la" kudos to you guys. Luckily I have already woken up b4 I sms her. I said I really can't. I asked if she will be disappointted?

She said a little but no problem we are still friends. I said sorry and that I feel sad that I can't even give a visitor a present.(I am starting to play the game now). She said please don't and treat that she have not said.

I went on to said that I have already prepared a departure gift for her but not as gui zhong. She was very interested to know what is it but I didn't say.

Ok. You guys are right. I am sure you all are smiling now. You guys earn my respect. Really. I've truly seen the ugly world.

Anyway I've long agreed to bring her to shop next week for the things she need to bring back to China. I will not fall into the trap. Thanks alot to you guys.

Thanks fellow seniors. You have my respects.
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Old 19-09-2008, 10:11 AM
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Re: I never thought it would happen to me

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Ok. You guys are right. I am sure you all are smiling now.
Sorry bro, I couldn't resist the smile when I read your last post. With a WL, money is always an issue, even if she does have genuine feelings for you. If you have spare cash to throw, you can always bring her out, have a good time, etc but always remember never to get emotionally entangled. If you do that, you are merely spending money to entertain yourself, no more.

But if you are still a student giving tuition to support yourself, I say keep your money under your pillow and stop seeing her and don't even give her the farewell gift. What is the point? What are you trying to prove? To show that you are generous? To show that you really felt something for her and that you were not lying to her when you said that you liked her?

Given the current economic outlook, there may be a substantial period of time before we get to see any recovery. In these climate, you may find some difficulties getting a job immediately after graduation, depending on your major. If that ever happened, you will be thankful that the money you have now is kept under your pillow instead.
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Old 19-09-2008, 10:31 AM
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Sorry bro, I couldn't resist the smile when I read your last post. With a WL, money is always an issue, even if she does have genuine feelings for you. If you have spare cash to throw, you can always bring her out, have a good time, etc but always remember never to get emotionally entangled. If you do that, you are merely spending money to entertain yourself, no more.

But if you are still a student giving tuition to support yourself, I say keep your money under your pillow and stop seeing her and don't even give her the farewell gift. What is the point? What are you trying to prove? To show that you are generous? To show that you really felt something for her and that you were not lying to her when you said that you liked her?

Given the current economic outlook, there may be a substantial period of time before we get to see any recovery. In these climate, you may find some difficulties getting a job immediately after graduation, depending on your major. If that ever happened, you will be thankful that the money you have now is kept under your pillow instead.
Thanks for the frank reply. I thought I would feel hurt but I don't. At all! Thanks to all the wake up calls that the kind people here have tried. Even we don't know who easch other are, we all have been through the same thing. I am really thankful for it.

To me the small gift is just a token of meeting a friend who visits my country. Although I can't accept that she asked for a gift yesterday, I still felt her truthfulness when we went out the other time. She really did treat me as a friend, and not someone to KC.

I am not under any illusion. Humans can see and feel. I am sure you guys do as well. For now I will carefully play my piece and not make myself to be vulnerable. It's only a few days before she goes.

(anyway market is doing fine today.good news)
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Old 19-09-2008, 01:36 PM
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Re: I never thought it would happen to me

Bro weiwei, when you go to school, you study. Same principle applies to her. Consolation is, whether she like it or not, or how much she treasure her 'friendship' with you, this is how the relationship works. Yes someone might have taught her, but just like you, your tutor's intention is to help you excel in what you're supposed to do.

Turning it around, this is how WL relationship always come down to. There is no need for hurt or anger or distress, as it is just very objectively acted out. She's only playing her role, and in her role as a WL in sg there is simply no room for anything real.
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To me the small gift is just a token of meeting a friend who visits my country. Although I can't accept that she asked for a gift yesterday, I still felt her truthfulness when we went out the other time. She really did treat me as a friend, and not someone to KC.
Bro, if you really want to give a farewell gift for her, it will better if u get it in advance and pass it to her. Never ask a WLs to go shopping wtih you even if it is just buying some stuffs for her to bring back... To her, the promise of bringing her out for shopping is a good chance to get what she wants... can be not expensive but if she gets a few of those "not so expensive" items... it can snowball...

Anyway agreed with some bros.. there is no points to bring her out for shopping if yor relationship is just friends with her... If you are just a friend to her, do you think she will agree to ask you to pay for her stuffs? Even your normal friends will not ask you pay too....
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Anyway I've long agreed to bring her to shop next week for the things she need to bring back to China. I will not fall into the trap. Thanks alot to you guys..
bro, this is a definite bad idea. Imagine while you are bringing her shopping and she sees something she likes and asks whether you can buy for her as a gift and she keeps KC you to buy it, what will you say ? Unless you have a heart of steel, you will probably melt and give way to her...maybe you will say something like, "i can't buy this but I can buy something else for you which is cheaper"..like this you already kena her KC trap.

I suggest you make up a story and avoid going shopping with her. Since you already got her a gift, just meet and pass her the gift if you really want to.
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Re: I never thought it would happen to me

Remember wat is the most definite reason why they come here to work. Money
They have been trained not to be shy to ask for gifts...if they can get a LV from you...good, if they cant, a free meal will also do.
Their policy is simple, live off people in what ever ways possible.
But again, there are those that will give you this impression so as to gain your trust 1st.

Going shopping with her to buy stuff back may be a good thing but your mind must be strong.
You can accompany her, but DUN buy anything. Make sure she pays for all her own stuff.
If you really wanna be a nice guy, do go buy her a farewell gift so that she can remember you by.

Remember, the holy cup is more valuable than a cup made from rubies and gold anf FYI, that's made of wood.
This would allow you to gauge how much to spend on the gift liao.
Its all about sincerity not price! Reaction after receiving the gift will shed alot of lite to you.
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It's so heart warming to see so many bros here have awakened and now also able to help those in need.
Kudos to all of you.
For bro slider, it's not 3, it's back to 4 hahaha long story but if got kopi time, will tell you more.

At least now i am sure i can go live my life, FINALLY patch up my broken concrete wall and continue on my path.

God Bless you all, you're good souls.
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It's so heart warming to see so many bros here have awakened and now also able to help those in need.
Kudos to all of you.
For bro slider, it's not 3, it's back to 4 hahaha long story but if got kopi time, will tell you more.

At least now i am sure i can go live my life, FINALLY patch up my broken concrete wall and continue on my path.

God Bless you all, you're good souls.
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To me the small gift is just a token of meeting a friend who visits my country. Although I can't accept that she asked for a gift yesterday, I still felt her truthfulness when we went out the other time. She really did treat me as a friend, and not someone to KC.

(anyway market is doing fine today.good news)
Bro, i suggest u keep the gift to yourself. The fact that she asked you to buy the gold bracelet for her is a sign that, she had treated you as a target for KC. Acting true, and being true is different thing.

Don't even think of being a nice guy now, even a small gift is not worth giving to her. She might say that you guys are still friends, in actual fact she is keeping her window open. If she really had treated you as a friend she would have do what a friend would do; i don't see my friend asking me to buy them any bracelet or expecting any gift from me

Know who your true friends are. I don't believe a friend will in anyway ask his/her friend to buy them something (without thinking of returning). Let along a gold bracelet. That is simply out of the question. Being friends are being truthful to each other, and not manipulative. She had went into this so called friendship with you being a KC target in mind (she is being manipulative). She is in no way a friends to you, or you to her; you're a target, simply put. There is friends out there that you should spend that gift on. I suggest you use the gift money for a session with her, at least that is a transaction.

I remember boss posting an interview of a WL which is stickied, maybe if u go take a look at it again. It might harden your heart, and really straighten you out.
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As for her I can feel she's a nice gal. Not as bad as the ones mentioned in the forum.

But like a fellow forumer said. I am one of the many she faced, while she's the only one I faced.
This is an interesting thread...I think she did well in her own profession and has since earn your trust and respect. The KC part is still far from real. Take care bro.
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China is progressing fast...very fast! Those who are not so well off are also caught up in the get rich quick mood. To them selling their body is nothing (if they are married their husbands would even encourage them. Prostitute themselves for a year or two and make enough money to start their own biz or build a house...etc.

They may be in Sg for 2 months...take a look at their passport and you may just see the places they have been to KL Tokyo Dubai wherever they can make a fast buck. The wl are not stupid...their pr skill is to be admired...

If she could get you to rtf regularly so can she with others...that's why she got busier as days go by...

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She then continued to ask if I can give her a present? I said I might not be able to, givien that I am just a student by day and tutor by night. I asked her what is it. She said not more than $500. She said she saw a gold bracelet that she likes when she went to pearl centre. She wants to wear it everyday.
wear everyday her head ah!!!

u know why chinatown? quite a few goldsmiths there operate on the basis that if these girls go back to them with the jewelry and receipt, they could exchange it for cash at 70% value...

a 6-month PRC fling told me this to warn me not to fall into that trap... no need to mention that she went there countless times with assorted carrotheads...

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I saw it coming. "Jiang hai shi lao de la" kudos to you guys. Luckily I have already woken up b4 I sms her. I said I really can't. I asked if she will be disappointted?
good for u!!! many r not so lucky, despite the constant warning threads...
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