woes of a tirak

[free]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

SM,no need for ur pt-less comments
:
the info posted here by free, SC & myself r nevertheless valid n based on real life experiences. despite all the biased perspectives & debate, still proves to be valuable info for aspiring tiraks & TG lovers.

To add to yr point here, there is a huge difference between pointless & useless comments as posted by our Gina-kia (aka SM), and those presented from a person's perspective cos of what he has experienced in real life.

I have never ever said SC is wrong in what he posted or ever claimed thathe told lies. I only disagree with his numbers (describing the prevalence) of these segment of the WLs, amongst the general population of WLs/FLs/TGs. If anything, I have often emphasized that what he said it true, for I myself have seen it and could have been a victim had I not chosen not to get involved when I recognise the gal for who she is. I had by now learn to avoid these "bargain hunters" by avoiding the ponds they swim in.

I have also supported SC's postings at times, with my all time favorite being the 101% of thai men. That is a classic term he coined up and I am not ashamed to use it. And wherever possible, I credit SC for it. Yes, I admit I do have a measure of respect for SC, cos he too has his own set of values he believe in and he stands behind them.

Too bad SM is probably mentally and emotionally incapable of understanding all these, partly due to his impatience (or is it inability?) to read through the threads, or stand by any principles close to his heart (if he has any left). If he wanna comment, he'd better read, period! That is a responsibility that comes together with the rights to comment and offer a point of view (irregardless of whether disagreeing or otherwise).

If one sees what he pm'ed me yesterday evening, one can only imagine what sort of a lowly person he is. He spoke for himself already

[free]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

And to be honest, many cheongsters they know the girls give extra KC and GF and it is part of the rules of the game. So they play along. You give I take. But for some, after a while they start to think it might be real and step beyond the line. That is when they start getting blind. Nothing wrong in being blind, just don't be ignorant and be able to climb out when things go wrong. .

I fully agree with you. May these guys understand that they are poking themselves blind and/or chose to stay ignorant.

Originally Posted by siamcutey

And many of them die not because they are ignorant. They know the truth but just refuse to climb out thinking that there will be a ray of hope at the end of the path

SC

If most of the signs point to the negative, one cannot blame the ger for cheating him. Fact is he is cheating himself. In her own way, she has told him; just that he is not willing to listen. Cos the draw of the GF feeling & lust is too strong for him.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

How would you prove to her you are 101% then?...SC

pardon me, my style different from most here- who only know how to tie hook to line (most cases with no bait), sit there suntan & TCSS(without even casting the hook/bait), then complain fish never get hooked, n then condemn the pond by posting billboards all over saying "pond got no fish". blame heaven n earth for getting sunburnt, cos stupid enough nt to use protection.

i on the other hand, lay my lines like there's no tmr (cast more baits when things dont happen, n replace old baits w new baits), use all sorts of fish bait n flyers that i can think of, even to the extent of researching, observing the characteristics, environment etc. bcos of only 1 thing.. i only want that fish, only last resort that i cant imagine using is spearfishing-wont benefit either party.

i'm priviledged with the emotional, physical, intellectual capacity to do so. bt would have all been alot smoother if my finacial capacity could help facilitate things better too.

Originally Posted by siamcutey

...U can love them but doesn't mean you have to accept them of the bad things they do because of their occupation, culture and upbringing. Understanding is one thing but accepting it is another...SC

its precisely due to the fact that there's Love, therefore there's Acceptance, whilst Acceptance do not necessarily require Love. be clear about it: Acceptance is a subset of Love, Understanding is the subset of Acceptance. just as in most contracts and even marriages r set these days.. u put the pen to (the dotted line) on the paper if u're willing to accept the terms & conditions in the fineprints.

hence, all those tiny pin-prick have little/no effect on those who're blessed w the capacity to Love.

[suteerak1099]

erh........... ok. so, generalsuchinda... do u have anything in relation to tirak woes generally that u might wana briefly/generally lend to this thread, cos its generally very much needed.

as u can see, generally speaking... there's been some nuisance ongoing trying to soil my thread, n the general intent for this thread is none other dedicated to all the fellas out there (including myself) with genuine tirak matters, suffering/enjoying the TRCR etc.

considering yr duration of existance in SBF, seems to me...u've probably chalked up quite some substantial thrills & spills that u might wanna share with us here, in general i mean. so, general, with all due respect, pls enlighten the lot.. bt i'd suggest that u try to keep it general n simple, incase some with lower mental competance will get confused n start sweating his foulmouth in here.

[hoodlum]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

erh........... ok. so, generalsuchinda... do u have anything in relation to tirak woes generally that u might wana briefly/generally lend to this thread, cos its generally very much needed.

...

I do enjoy yr post and humour though I may not agree with your perspectives, generally speaking, that is.

Cheers and take care
hoodlum

[free]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

I do enjoy yr post and humour though I may not agree with your perspectives, generally speaking, that is.

Cheers and take care
hoodlum

That I think, sums up the spirit of true gentlemanshi. To be able to accept and appreciate another point of view, even if they are different than ours. To Agree to Disagree, to be able to be friends even if holding direly opposing views. Simply cos we're diferent people, leading different lives and therefore will have different perpectives and experiences. And more often than not, boh parties are right in their own way.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

I do enjoy yr post and humour though I may not agree with your perspectives, generally speaking, that is...

its alright mate, as far as i'm concerned, i'm trying to make things as neutral as i possibily can. bt the thing is that alot of ppl here have warped perspectives n have strong tendency of flaming the gals. not only sad fucks.. bt petty fucks they've morphed to become.

bt dont really matter.. i'm nt trying to win support in the 1st place. cos this is wat forum's all about.. to share opinion.. to debate.. no need to slam/flame unless they deserve it haha.

am pleased that u're enjoying.. cheers!

[thaivisitor]

Originally Posted by GeneralSUCHINDA

To all the so called THAI EXPERTS, when the GENERAL is in don't come and act old bird with me. Brother Free is my brother, anyone messes with free, iI the GENERAL will MESS with him

Waaaaa.... I "shudder" with fear....... leh....

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

Waaaaa.... I "shudder" with fear....... leh....

I thought men only "shudder" when they cumming????

SC

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

Waaaaa.... I "shudder" with fear....... leh....

lol... sounds familiar.. if my memory serves me correctly, its a scene taken from the cartoon movie "lion king"... where the hyenas were joking about the name "Mufasa"...haha.
TV, inspired by hyena ah..? lol

oh n btw, how about sharing a thing or 2 from ur perspectives/experiences..? should prove quite valid info for all aspiring tiraks & TG lovers leh..

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

I thought men only "shudder" when they cumming???? SC

not only men.. women shudder when cumming too. i think in the laws of nature.. all mammals shudder when cumming... thats unless no more ammo...lol

*no feeding no feeding! empty mag check! unload n reload, ready weapon! carry firing!*

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

I do enjoy yr post and humour though I may not agree with your perspectives, generally speaking, that is.
Cheers and take care
hoodlum

Spoken like a true gentleman, welcome your comments anyime.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

i on the other hand, lay my lines like there's no tmr (cast more baits when things dont happen, n replace old baits w new baits), use all sorts of fish bait n flyers that i can think of, even to the extent of researching, observing the characteristics, environment etc. bcos of only 1 thing.. i only want that fish, only last resort that i cant imagine using is spearfishing-wont benefit either party.

I don't know your motive of fishing. People fish to satisfy their wants. Different people have different wants. But supposedly from what I reading, is that you only want to go for that fish and not others which bait your hook. Thats fine actually but its worrying to see that your desire is not only to just go for that fish. You actually wanted to rear it. Do you know the breed of the fish well? Could it be a piranha or just a normal siam fighting fish?

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

i'm priviledged with the emotional, physical, intellectual capacity to do so. bt would have all been alot smoother if my finacial capacity could help facilitate things better too.

I think we think too much of ourselves many points of time. No one is infallible. Even myself. People with vast 30-40 years of experience will also falter. But one thing which I always to say is this. When the going gets tough and you know the cold harsh truth, will you be able to summon enough courage to leave or will you persist on?

Sadly, I always seen many choosing the latter route. They know the truth, they know everything, but they still want to go on, cos the love in their heart has blinded not only their eyes, but also the heart. They realised they have spent so much time, effort, heart, money in it and they want to see some results.

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

its precisely due to the fact that there's Love, therefore there's Acceptance, whilst Acceptance do not necessarily require Love. be clear about it: Acceptance is a subset of Love, Understanding is the subset of Acceptance. just as in most contracts and even marriages r set these days.. u put the pen to (the dotted line) on the paper if u're willing to accept the terms & conditions in the fineprints.

hence, all those tiny pin-prick have little/no effect on those who're blessed w the capacity to Love..

Sorry, I am a firm believer of the bread and water. Love can live on plain air, but we can't. The only love I believe in is parental/family love. Other than that, no. We think of these kind of love/acceptance/understanding probably because we watched too much movies, dramas. Scriptwriters must have very good imagination to think of good plots, stories to capture the audience's attention. But many a times, things that happen on the screen, don't happen in real life.

SC

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

...You actually wanted to rear it. Do you know the breed of the fish well? Could it be a piranha or just a normal siam fighting fish? ..

tackling n thrashing is a thrill that many enjoy, that we all know. its a given n duely understood, cos its a transaction/mundane process. bt i prefer rearing... instead of throwing feed when i feel like it, bt to really cherish, appreciate & live w it. (pardon my difference, bt i deem that as passion & love)

Originally Posted by siamcutey

...When the going gets tough and you know the cold harsh truth, will you be able to summon enough courage to leave or will you persist on?...They realised they have spent so much time, effort, heart, money in it and they want to see some results.

results or none really isnt the entire issue for me, its preciesly cos there's progress in the KC that i choose to work for it. if it truly was a KCtrap/game.. there's no progress to even think about. basically would've just been a fling or 2. anyways, the details r too personal n its for me to know n the world to find out. errands can be run in any rships, even in frenship.. bt when trust is invested... its more than meets the eyes.

Originally Posted by siamcutey

...We think of these kind of love/acceptance/understanding probably because we watched too much movies, dramas. Scriptwriters must have very good imagination to think of good plots, stories to capture the audience's attention. But many a times, things that happen on the screen, don't happen in real life...

true! fictions/fables/legends/myths/poems/songs etc all r sugar coated reality. pop a chewing/bubble gum in the mouth, sweet on every grind/chew, bt when the taste is gone, u wanna spit it out or continue chewing... entirely subject to individual. n i must say.. its also bcos of those inconsiderate ones that anyhow spit it when the taste is gone, staining n dirtying the environment that leaves a bad name for the rest who truly appreciate chewing/bubble gum. up to the pt when all is banned n nothing left for 1 n all.

the truth is never nice, many choose to enjoy n soak in the sugar coating n suffer w diabettes later... i on the other hand would rather stick to my own principles.. n i think its a fair deal for 1 n all to ponder about.

as i always say.. if cant deal w the KC, sleepless nights & poor appettite for food...then just continue to butterfly lor. how long more can 1 afford butterfly anyway?

[free]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

not only men.. women shudder when cumming too. i think in the laws of nature.. all mammals shudder when cumming... thats unless no more ammo...lol

*no feeding no feeding! empty mag check! unload n reload, ready weapon! carry firing!*

You are right, I know a small petite TG who continued to get little "highs" and literally shudders from the aftermath. Was my mother of all bonks. can no longer meet her when I go LOS, cos staying in literally same area as my tirak