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Old 30-03-2005, 02:26 AM
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Re: A Different type of FR - My Phayao Trip

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I think most likely that your in laws knew that you were reliable enough to take care of their daughter and them as well. I would say not all of the villagers are greedy and the bottomline is to makesure their daughter are in safe hands.

I'm sure even if they never ask for a single baht, we also not "kiam siap" until dun give anything.
Well since they didn't ask, I eventually took care of them very well lah so to speak.

Come to think of it, don't know whether it's a tactic or not, not to ask.

kekekekekekekeke, anyway, no regrets.
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Old 30-03-2005, 02:45 AM
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Thoughts About Contraception

Last week, we somehow hit onto this topic in the midst of our usual chit-chat during dinner (this time we "tar pow" from the night market to eat our hotel room, as we didn't feel like going out any where plus it was also a good way to save money).

We had been making passionate love for a while now, and had been using the withdrawal method coz I dun like to use CD (part of the reason why I have stopped cheonging & chose to stick to 1 woman I can trust as well). She happened to have just finished her menses last week (so our abstainence while in Phayao had to happen even if we can sleep together). We took this chance (albeit the small risk of pregnancy) to let go and not use any form of protection (damn shiok), but it got us thinking, coz while we both like the feeling mutually, we know we cannot time ourselves so nicely every time we come together. Somehow we felt closer w/o the stress of the withdrawal method or a layer of rubber in between, no matter how thin.

She suggested that she should start taking birth control pills as she knows I dun like CDs, and she also prefer me without too. I was kind of wondering why should she have to take pills 28 days a month when we are together only typically a few days every 1-2 months. I heard about the Morning After Pill (Postinor-2 is one of them). Is anyone familiar with this Morning After Pill stuff? What are the side-effects she can possibly experience? If it is worse than the normal birth control pills, I won't want her to take it. For her to take immediately after or even before making love is no problem for us. Would appreciate feedback/sharing of your experiences.

Actually I felt much better about this contraceptive issue (or rather the lack of it) after knowing her stand on getting married 1st, even if the Ja Ta Bian may have to wait a little (asap of course). Guess when she loves me. she really loves with all her heart. But then again, I dun think I want her to be pregnant before we are married. It will make her lose face, and I dun want that! There was a neighbour's daughter getting married while we were in Phayao and she was only 16+ and already 5 months pregnant at her wedding and it was apparently very embarrassing for the family - case of shotgun.

No, I really want us to be able to walk with our heads held high. So far so good.
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Old 31-03-2005, 10:21 PM
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Re: A Different type of FR - My Phayao Trip

Yap Bro Free... guess i'll have 2 create a real story tt unique 2 juz su both~ We oreadi had d begining, now itz moving towards d end... Lotsa hard work on both our parts 2 make it cum true, but i guess i'll juz have 2 work hard towards ti n leave it 2 fate bah ~ Time 2 improve my Thai 1st though....
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Old 31-03-2005, 11:15 PM
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Re: A Different type of FR - My Phayao Trip

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Yap Bro Free... guess i'll have 2 create a real story tt unique 2 juz su both~ We oreadi had d begining, now itz moving towards d end... Lotsa hard work on both our parts 2 make it cum true, but i guess i'll juz have 2 work hard towards ti n leave it 2 fate bah ~ Time 2 improve my Thai 1st though....

Just a word of recommendation if you want to improve your thai, you can go to any school in Sg to learn thai language but it will not help u much due to the fact of lacking the thai speaking environment and learning thai in classroom doesn't help much on conversation. So the fastest way to improve is to come to thailand and stay for a period then you will realise that you will improve tremendously on your conversation skills(for writing and reading, you can leave it later) but if that's not an option for you, you might consider hiring a private tutor to brush conversation. My friend sought assistance at thai embassy and they recommanded him a teacher who taught him 2 hours per session and 4 times per week. And when I spoke to him, he improved at least 40%. In my opinion, I believe communication is the most important part of the relationship with a thai lady so I wish best of luck on your thai adventure.
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Re: A Different type of FR - My Phayao Trip

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Yap Bro Free... guess i'll have 2 create a real story tt unique 2 juz su both~ We oreadi had d begining, now itz moving towards d end... Lotsa hard work on both our parts 2 make it cum true, but i guess i'll juz have 2 work hard towards ti n leave it 2 fate bah ~ Time 2 improve my Thai 1st though....
What Bro BM recommended is best. If can't do it, feel free to call me & even meet up. We can always make it a point to speak in Thai. If conversation is the goal, we can help each other. If want to learn formal Thai (or worse perfect Thai), I am no where near that yet.

Can pm me if u want to that. Any other bros keen to do so, can oso join in. Hope we can also progress to email/pm in thai.
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Smile FR for my Phayao Trip

Some Pictures @ Phayao & Doi Tung (Chiangrai)

Welcome to Phayao
"Parade Square" @ Phayao

Sunset @ Lake Phayao
Sunset @ Lake Phayao
Sunset @ Lake Phayao

Her Typical Thai Country Home @ Phayao

Her Dad Feeding Chickens in the morning

Kiddo Bro's 10-day old Pet Pig @ Phayao

Purple Corn?? @ Phayao

Her Auntie's Very Warm Home @ Phrae (bad design)

White Temple @ ChiangRai
White Temple @ ChiangRai

Doi Tung Garden @ ChiangRai
Doi Tung Garden @ ChiangRai

Worship Places @ Phayao
Worship Places @ ChiangRai
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My Beloved & Cute Adam
Adam, 6, is the son of a German man and a Thai woman. Speaks prefect Thai, a bit of German & zero English

Her All Natural Bod I'd Die For
Can a size 32A develop into a size 34B+ going on C in < 1 year?? But I see it with my own eyes! Must be effects of a woman in love, kekeke. Me not complaining for sure!

Getting Ready for the Future?
My beloved practising hard on her friend's 10-day old baby. Akan Datang.
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Her Ketai (Rabbit)
Roaming free at BKK home.
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Re: Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

Bro Free, after looking at your pics, I can forsee that you really had a great time over in Chiangrai and Phayao. The pictures are very useful information for ppl who hadn't been there before. I myself had not been to the white temple before so thanks for the intro.

I think probably your adventure is a bit lucky cos I think you got yourself a good tirak. Btw you mention that you are going to "Jot Ta Bian". And did you get the necessary documents ready for jot ta bian in Thailand. Because the last time I had went to Sg embassy in Bangkok to enquire about the documents needed for the authorization letter. They told me that I need to go back to Sg to collect some documents which are

1) Declaration of single status from ROM
2) No criminal record from CID cantonment
3) No working records of the expected spouse from MOM

After you get this documents then the ppl from the embassy will then issue you with the letter so that you could go the "Kret or Ampere" for registration of the marriage. Then after that you can apply for visa to stay in Thailand longer but I heard from my lawyer that you must also produce a cetification of bank statement of more than 400,000baht for dun know what verification, something like able to feed your wife or something else.
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Re: Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

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I think probably your adventure is a bit lucky cos I think you got yourself a good tirak. Btw you mention that you are going to "Jot Ta Bian". And did you get the necessary documents ready for jot ta bian in Thailand. Because the last time I had went to Sg embassy in Bangkok to enquire about the documents needed for the authorization letter. They told me that I need to go back to Sg to collect some documents which are

1) Declaration of single status from ROM
2) No criminal record from CID cantonment
3) No working records of the expected spouse from MOM

After you get this documents then the ppl from the embassy will then issue you with the letter so that you could go the "Kret or Ampere" for registration of the marriage. Then after that you can apply for visa to stay in Thailand longer but I heard from my lawyer that you must also produce a cetification of bank statement of more than 400,000baht for dun know what verification, something like able to feed your wife or something else.
Haha, the pics are but a small sample of what we took. Just that too many of them contained "people".

I have no doubt by now I have a wonderful tirak. That's why I chose her! Think it takes more than luck. Needs a lot of hardwork to nurture the r/s to this stage. Would probably be similar if I had chosen Dancer or R (or even Dancer's classmate cos all are wonderful ladies), but Film is the one I decided upon and that's it. From henceforth, there shall be no other, as we are on the home stretch now.

Yes, I had a great time, plus a very reassuring time. To be able to meet all her extended family members who mattered to her, gave me a sense that she is 100% serious about me for her personal reputation is now at stake. We can't do the Jot Tabian as yet, cos I was stupid and idiotic enough not to start my legal proceedings until rather late even though my r/s with the ex (or to be ex) had been over for years. Procastination, sigh. Luckily she understands my situation (we were only friends at the time when I actually started the legal process), she is prepared to go thru the ceremony & live with me as husband/wife w/o the jot ta bian 1st. Appreciate her trust in me lots, ans she said she understand that is the reality and I am not using it as an excuse not to do the jot tabian. If anything, she knows how much it means to me. We will do the jot ta bian as soon as my legal here in SG is completed. I also want it to be officially recognized asap.

Just an enquiry regarding your note. Declaration of marital status - unmarried or divorced is acceptable, isnt it? Also as we are planning to register in LOS, there is no nothing I need to do about MOM, I think. Anyway she has no working records with MOM.
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Re: Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

Wow ! Her dad look younger than you.
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Re: Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

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Wow ! Her dad look younger than you.
Fortunately he is not, and he is her step-father. He is also younger than her mum. He is damn fit of course, with the kind of work he is doing. Man of few words but I really like him. We actually can converse in Taiwanese Hokkien , cos he worked there before coming back and then later marry her mum.

But really, does it matter? Even if he is really younger I will still wai to him and give him his rightful status. He is doing his part to work hard & take care of her mum & their 2 sons and that is good enough for me. He appreciates how I treat his daughter and that is good enough for him.

Let us not be held back by a fixed mindset or a Number. I have seen how my "young" tirak can be more matured than some ladies 1.5 times her age. Ate the humble pie often when with her. Whenever I worry about how many years I am older than her (1), she tells me to think of how many more years we can have together (2). And since (2) > (1), its good enough for her. The way she chose to look at things, the way she bounces back from the pits, she is the "Wind beneath my Wings".

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You be surprised !

The person to watch in her family is her 'step father'.

Better keep an eye on him.
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You be surprised !

The person to watch in her family is her 'step father'.

Better keep an eye on him.
Nope, I am more concerned about her real father than the step one. I had observed the step father for a while, thru interactions with him together with his brother and neighbours and he is just like a younger version of Dancer's dad - a good and responsible man who loves his wife and family.

Her own father is the one who wanted her to marry a rich frinnd's son - for his own selfish benefit (gain the guy's favor). She told her dad she does not want to marry a playboy even if he is rich cos she knows she will "mai mee kwaam suk" and she wants a faithful & loving man for a husband, not a playboy. Whether he is rich or not is not important to her, as long as he is responsible and is not lazy. Father insisted that the guy is good and not a playboy. How can she know if she cannot see? Told her to ignore what her friends say cos they are jealous of her. But she knows its true.

She was later tricked by the father into accompanying him to dinner with his friend, and only upon arrival at the restaurant did she realised what was happening, when she saw a young & handsome looking man there as well. Luckily the young guy's constant string of phone calls and his resultant hush hush replies (or walking out of the restaurant to talk) gave her enough bullets to tell her dad she has no interest in marrying a playboy, plus reminded him that she has already told him about us being together and she wants to marry me. Honestly I view him as being not much different from those selfish parents who pressured their daughters into selling their bodies in order that they can have a luxurious life. Seen some of my niong sao;s getting consistent calls from their mum, always asking for lots of money to buy things, even gold! Shit! How can they be so selfish, knowing what they had to do to find the money!

I must admit I was surprised by her daring to tell her father all these, plus she also complained to her mother and grandmother about what the dad did. They called up the father to give him a piece of their mind. Apparently the quarrel got quite big, and the step father actually warned the father never to do this to "my daughter" again. Step father sees her as his own. Her mum was still upset when we talked about that incident while I was visiting her.

My tirak explained that as far as she is concerned, her father was the one who deserted mum & her when she was still young, and he had not fulfilled his duties as her father. So she does not feel 100% obligated to help him even if he is in financial trouble (apparently he is now) unless she can afford it and does not have to suffer for it. Her mum & step father is a totally opposite situation and she felt much more for her step father and her step-brothers, compared to her step-brothers on her father's side. Of course she loves her mum, and had supported her remarrying, cos her step father is a good man.

At this point she doesn't want me to meet with her real dad, nor tell him much about how far we have progressed until she is sure he can't create any more problems for us. In fact she doesn't talk to him often nor intend to visit him for sometime to come. She also do not want to ask him for any financial support no matter how hard life becomes for her, cos he will expect to her obey him and do whatever he expects, as if she owes him an ROI. Kind of a shitty father she;s got, .

I can see that all the people around her (or who call her) and who mattered to her are from her mum's side, so I am not bugged by her father. I too have no wish to see him now, cos I fear I may lose control of myself and tick him off instead. If anything I am really sore at his selfish act. If we can have his blessings for our union, that's cool. If not, so be it. He is not exactly the kind of father-in-law I want to have anyway. I dun speak bad about him with my tirak, cos he is still her father and I dun want to hurt her, but she also knows I don't respect him as a man (even if I have to respect him as her father - she said good enough for her).
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Re: Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

Thanks bro BM 4 d advice! Been planning 2 enrol in a thai class here soon. Once a week, but like u said, itz difficult 2 improve unless u muz use it often. I learnt my jap by listening 2 plently of j-pop n watch plently of jap dramas n amine. Now converting all tt 2 thai.. Any good thai songs or movies 2 share?

Karp koon kap bro Free! (Hope i'm right.... haha, i do noe "pom kit teung koon though.. keke) Yah, gotta enrol in tt class soon man, if not when i go over 2 her place n mit her parents, it would b a chicken n duck talk.. haha
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Any good thai songs or movies 2 share?

Karp koon kap bro Free! (Hope i'm right.... haha, i do noe "pom kit teung koon though.. keke) Yah, gotta enrol in tt class soon man, if not when i go over 2 her place n mit her parents, it would b a chicken n duck talk.. haha
Taking the cue from bro Bonker, transfer my reply to the Thai Language Class is On where it is more appropriate.
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Re: Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

Hi, i got a thai gal fren to keep in touch. Basically thru SMS. But im tired of typing so many words at a go. IS there any gd calling cards with many mins of calling time to intro? I also need a JB or KL calling card but i duno which one to go for? Wud like to hear more about it. Coments n advice r welcome. (Is starhub 018 svc a gd one to call thai or malaysia?)
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