Sad sad day. Thread on lousy FL to avoid n recommended FL killed

[steroidfreak]

Originally Posted by loneranger

Demure & Friendly Masseuse : 中式按摩/刮痧/修剪阴毛 @ $100/90Mins« [梦儿] advertise as 28 years old, my jaw almost drop to the floor.....

Dropped? Then how old is she? 38?

[loneranger]

what do you think after you seen the photo?

[KingJulien]

over 40

[steroidfreak]

Originally Posted by KingJulien

over 40

wa faint, lidat dare to put 28, I can say I 25 oni.

[seventyfour]

Hi,
So does this mean when I see a pretty syt photo that say room included with contact no provided in this dome2, I should avoid because it's going to be fake claims and bad service? How does one engage the fl here that has room provided? Is it SMS the provided contact no and go to the hotel? Is the hotel booked by her?

[davidwee]

Keep thread alive, can only update from FRs

[Siasucks]

cant really say who to blame...

1. Forum charges goes up for TS
2. living standards like EG. room rental go sky high
3. demand for rental is always there
4. demand of jobs/bonks needed by FL to sustain TS increased charges and room rental
5. FL trying hard to earn enough for paying
6. Bros giving FLs shit like aeroplane, hit and run etc etc
7. FL end up mood swing pek chek so service rush and - - - everywhere they can to make it up for time/$ loss
8. Bros complain in forum
9. girls move on to other TS again and again
10. 1 - 9 repeats all over again...

everyone plays a part in all the changes..

imagine, SBF never increase charges, room rental never increase, living expenses never increase, bros never aeroplane, i guess everyone will enjoy having the good old days of SBF..

[UltraBlack]

I don't really want to talk about my own bad experiences as it was horrendous. I even met a fl that outright initiated raw sex recently. Which of course I declined immediately, no need ask me who as I have wiped my memory of that session.

Perhaps we can have a system of nominated true and honest bros that is voted by this community. Like most bros realised this place have become a carrot chopping place with many fake reviews, fake stats on the ladies that many has completely avoided threads that are strangely just filled with bumps by okts.

Now I have to filter out the whole thread before I decide on engaging a lady. Much often I would take notice of reputable people and will tag along for the experience.

I actually feel one thing that is bad is that numbers are distributed too freely which leads to many aeroplane cases... end up waste a lot of time..

And lastly I think the deal with fr deletion is a sensitive subject. It is like a okt war between stables nowadays and It is very depressing. There are also many unethical people, be it okt, the fl or even the clients themselves...

Still I believe most still search for their perfect lady to spend some quality time instead of all these junk that spew onto this forum due to changes in systems...

Just my 2 cents.

[blowmehard]

i just talked to one FL who is paying more than 100 bucks everyday for her room. these OKT landlords are really blood suckers, $3000 a month can rent a small condo unit already!

[NastyNate]

Originally Posted by blowmehard

i just talked to one FL who is paying more than 100 bucks everyday for her room. these OKT landlords are really blood suckers, $3000 a month can rent a small condo unit already!

Technically speaking, taxis in Singapore are also rented out at $100 a day. After an 8-hour shift on a normal taxi like Crown or Sonata, minus diesel and car wash I hear they still take back $100+ a day. Minus off 4 days off a month, total take back a month = $100 x 2 = $2,600.

Assuming a hardworking FL charges $100 an hour, rental of room $100/day, assuming she also works 8 hours a day, minus miscellaneous $50 for tools of the trade like some soap and lotion for HJs (towels are well, reused, like you didn't know?), after giving allowance for mealtime and getting stood up by clients, she gets on average $400-$600 a work day, minus web advertising fee $300 a month, minus off day earnings $400 per off day a month, total take back = $12,000(gross) - $3,000(rent) - $400(off-day earnings) - $50(tools of the trade) = $8,500.

[xtr0110]

any review for tina from dragoncave ?

[chewyfruit]

i think is only when PRC are back to hostel type of living and run hotel, things may change for the better. but the likely hood of it is very low. since most ppl prefer room included. when demand are high rental also goes up. same for any four/five stars hotel room rates there are peak rates and off peak...

as compared with last year, is much tougher than before.

and girls kpbp always ask to edit photo, make boobs bigger, remove tummy, leg and arms thin.
when photo transparency too high, no one find. those with extreme edited photo business are better.
i can gladly send numerous photos of the same girl to you compared with other TS.

of all many stables i can only say the RAW Photos provided is alanlee. well cindyangels & mine are likely the same style

and not just photos, AGE also a matter of concern to many chiongster. when many other compromised to what age they telling them.
when you put their close actual age. girls also kpkb, telling you do i look that old? you despise old girl like me?

well the unhappy ppl in SBF are those chiong for years, but there is always huge group of new audience who are out there just looking for a fuck.
now the key factor of girl business is to have many nick many thread many advertisement.

for situation like this only SBF boss/moderator can help to make the shift, certain set of rules and limits should put in parameter.
so thread advertisement will not be overflood. a number of TS has multiple sponsor nick from 5-10 just FL2 dome itself

i really wished the previous team of moderator is back.

Originally Posted by Siasucks

cant really say who to blame...

1. Forum charges goes up for TS
2. living standards like EG. room rental go sky high
3. demand for rental is always there
4. demand of jobs/bonks needed by FL to sustain TS increased charges and room rental
5. FL trying hard to earn enough for paying
6. Bros giving FLs shit like aeroplane, hit and run etc etc
7. FL end up mood swing pek chek so service rush and - - - everywhere they can to make it up for time/$ loss
8. Bros complain in forum
9. girls move on to other TS again and again
10. 1 - 9 repeats all over again...

everyone plays a part in all the changes..

imagine, SBF never increase charges, room rental never increase, living expenses never increase, bros never aeroplane, i guess everyone will enjoy having the good old days of SBF..

[People]

Hi I new to this.

I no understand why she 33year old and she can asking for $100 and is without room

http://sbf.directory/showthr...17905&page=331

And some like 25year old to 29 year old is asking $90 - $100 with room included

http://sbf.directory/showthr...=389213&page=3

http://sbf.directory/showthread.php?t=388425

Price is all not same so much why?

[Mr_don_juan]

Originally Posted by Siasucks

cant really say who to blame...

1. Forum charges goes up for TS
2. living standards like EG. room rental go sky high
3. demand for rental is always there
4. demand of jobs/bonks needed by FL to sustain TS increased charges and room rental
5. FL trying hard to earn enough for paying
6. Bros giving FLs shit like aeroplane, hit and run etc etc
7. FL end up mood swing pek chek so service rush and - - - everywhere they can to make it up for time/$ loss
8. Bros complain in forum
9. girls move on to other TS again and again
10. 1 - 9 repeats all over again...

everyone plays a part in all the changes..

imagine, SBF never increase charges, room rental never increase, living expenses never increase, bros never aeroplane, i guess everyone will enjoy having the good old days of SBF..

Charges will continue to go up as long there is demand for room unless go back to hotel booking. As long as numbers are openly disclosed, the number of aeroplane cases will significantly go upz due to okt rivals from other places that is not online and other bros who not sure how to book / place appointments so they last minute fly kite.

I think is true that all these points are some reasons online sometimes are not so attractive business over walking on street. Firstly 1 hour full service, fls can't meet expectation kenna shoot, BBBJ, painting, frenching all these PRC streetwalkers tend to avoid. It's only the good old days when seniors taught those PRC how to do service and put ' BBBJ, painting, frenching with CIM COF ' as necessary to do business online.

Another thing, the quality of girls and gems are lesser also because of all your points --> difficult to earn compared elsewhere. So how to bring back good old days since especially price go up. I think increase rates to 150 will be the best solution with full hour and service but this increase will only apply to high quality girls which i believe most okts know to judge what the quality girls. cheers

[yoshii]

To be fair all OKTs have hits and misses but all of them never bother giving proper stats. Age is always a lie, I have yet to see an FL that is the reported age. It's like they are immortals stuck in their best age, but the truth is, even after years of working in Sg, they are never reported a year older...

PL had good and reliable girls but he also had buang ones too. Same with Simone and LF. My current favourite girls (Jessica and Xiaoxia) are from bro LF but I've taken a punt with some of his other stock and had pretty bad experiences. Simone's girls are a little more consistent for me, but they come at a premium and personally I rather not fork out anything above $100 for a 30min fuck. 30min because unless the girl is actually good at massaging, I can't be bothered trying to exercise more than 5-10mins. And very rarely do the non-massage or special service girls give you foreplay that will make up for the hour.

I don't believe that no one does it raw. I'm convinced that FLs will give in to a pesky regular because she wants that money to keep coming. It's fucking dumb, but I can't only vouch for my own intelligence, and can only assume there will be people who only have their dicks for brains. So in the case of Darklord, it doesn't matter to me if you do it or not, but if it seems logical that you can do it, then you might do it. Anyways you really should buck up and QC the load of crap you have in your stable. Perhaps if you can put all the shit as budget bonks for $30/shot/20mins and the proper ones at a more respectable rate... I'm sure people will be more enticed to look for the budget ones. Maths still not bad if they have like 4 customers in 2 hours.

But lets all keep creating new threads on the lousy service. It must be doing something cause like this thread has the most OKTs responding so far.