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Old 07-07-2012, 10:06 AM
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Re: Jakarta's trip

I was told by my colleagues to be extra cautious as there are some street protest going on because of the coming governor election. Already came across a few while I was with my guys doing our rounds..
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My friends were chinese but they could speak a lil malay. It happened at mangga besar area. What I could gather from my friends' story was that since we came from bandung to jakarta, we should have another stamp on our passport saying that we have landed on jakarta from bandung. We spent 2 nights at bandung and 3 nights at jakarta. As this happened on the first night of jakarta, yes each of my friends carry with them around 2juta plus since we all each changed around $500 when we reached jakarta. So would they really bring us to the station if my friends refuse to pay? Thanks br for ur reply
Why need another stamp when it is domestic flight between Bandung and Jakarta. It is like travelling from Jurong to Changi or Penang to KL.

The best way is to settle on the spot on the street. 200k will do the deeds. If you want to file a complaint, do so through the embassy, that is why it is important to have the embassy number, get the police ID and make him change career to join the poorly paid.

If embassy staff is useless and you still want to exact revenge. Write to Jakarta post editor who will take up your story. Be prepared to battle it out, and make sure your wives know you visit Classic hotels.

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Old 07-07-2012, 12:49 PM
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get the police ID and make him change career to join the poorly paid.
Police is already poorly paid, how poorly paid u want to make him?

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If embassy staff is useless and you still want to exact revenge. Write to Jakarta post editor who will take up your story. Be prepared to battle it out, and make sure your wives know you visit Classic hotels.
Not embassy staff is useless, unless serious case, locked up or dead else embassy staff can do nothing. They can only advise them to go police station file a report. Assume the staff takes up their case, either he prepares a letter of complaint or goes to the police station with them, that is all he can do.

Again, assume the police takes up their case, as "neutral", they need time to investigate, listen to both parties stories. Are they willing to spend hours or even days visiting the police station?

Even Strait times selective chooses stories to be appeared in the newspaper what makes JKT post willing to post their stories?

When in oversea, if spending money resolves problem, then it is the best solution. Try to avoid trouble is the best way in other country. Why creates problem? Unless u are damn free, damn righteous, damn rich, then go ahead.

Yes, we are adding to their greed, their "bravery", we are indirectly prompting their acts but end of the day, we are still a normal person who wants to visit the country and get out of it safe.
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Old 07-07-2012, 06:53 PM
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Re: Jakarta's trip

Decided to spend my first weekend here at Oasis Spa. Taxi ride cost me RP40K from central area. Relatively easy to find as I had already done some search on Google on the loc.

Went to recept and took the RP395K VIP Package which is 1 B2B and 1 Pijat. Went up to the 2nd lvl to select gal for B2B and head up to 6th lvl rooms. Honestly don't expect too much from the gals in terms of looks or body. This is really value for money. Gal who did B2B for me boobs not very big the most 34B. But her shaven pussy area the stubbles growing out so can feel a big rough when that area brushes against my body. After B2B wash me up and then she started to auto bbbj me and then cap fj. Her pussy is considerably tight considering she ever given birth. Can tell from that sagging tummy below the belly button. No rush to finish job. Tip her RP100K.

After this head back to 2nd lvl again to select gal for pijat msg. Seem that all the gals are on lvl 2 for selection, some are for B2B and the rest for normal massage. Was recommended a small frame gal for the msg. This time the msg is done on the 3rd lvl. Overall her msg is not too bad considering her little frame. She then got me on all four and then stroke my junior. Unfortunately after the last shot little bro didn't respond much to her teasing. She then got me to lie on my back and then HJ me till I came again. But for this gals they don't allow auto roam. Tip her RP100K for the HJ.

Head back down to lvl and dip myself in the jacuzzi to recoup back my "chi". Overall left the place fairly satisfied.

Total damage RP595K that about S$80.
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So i wanna ask any bros who had such an encounter and to the senior bros, what could one possible do in the event such as this?
Here is my take on your unfortunate experience. At the end of the day, these cops are just looking for cash. They will try any means to extort from you including threatening to take you to the police station.

I was stopped in Ancol coming back from Alexis in a Bluebird taxi at around 1 a.m. Unlike you, I wasn't carrying my passport but my saving grace was an inability to speak Bahasa Indonesia. The cops really couldn't communicate with me coz I only spoke english and they had a hard time understanding me. After about 10 mins, out of frustration they gave up and let me go.

I am not saying that this technique will always work, in fact I count myself very lucky but ultimately, if they threaten to arrest and take you down to the station, 9 times out of 10, they don't. Reason?

Traffic cops don't want to drive you back to the station when they could be extorting Rupiah from some other poor souls. The more taxis they stop, the more money they make. They can't do that if they're driving you back to the station.

If you feel you really have to give money, most cops will take Rps 200K. By giving 2 juta, you are simply encouraging these bent cops to be even more greedy.

Finally, I am surprised the cops stopped you because you don't have the proper chop in your passport coming up from Bandung. Sorry, but last time I checked Bandung was still part of Indonesia, why would you need a chop in your passport? (Perhaps the senior Jakarta bros can comment here).

My advice is when faced with a Police traffic road block, always carry your passport, keep cool and be polite, never show anger or frustration. Never get defensive! If you're a foreigner/tourist, give the impression you can't really speak the local language well and be apologetic. This may be enough to get you off the hook.

Btw, with Ramadan approaching, expect to see more of these roadblocks springing up across Jakarta...
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Police is already poorly paid, how poorly paid u want to make him?
The sad thing abt Jakarta is that it is a harsh environment for the fallen soul.

As a police, this man salary is a pittance but he might receives kickbacks higher than his salary from patrolling the streets. As far as possible, policemen will try to keep their jobs for the perks that the position offers. So most of them will likely accept settlements on the street and move on to the next case.

Again ,I am repeating, but 200k rupiah is the magic number to settle most cases on the street with the police. Bros might want to note that figure, or memorize it by hard when in Jakarta.
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As a police, this man salary is a pittance but he might receives kickbacks higher than his salary from patrolling the streets. As far as possible, policemen will try to keep their jobs for the perks that the position offers. So most of them will likely accept settlements on the street and move on to the next case.
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When in oversea, if spending money resolves problem, then it is the best solution. Try to avoid trouble is the best way in other country. Why creates problem? Unless u are damn free, damn righteous, damn rich, then go ahead.

My posting was same as above... just in different words.

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If you want to file a complaint, do so through the embassy, that is why it is important to have the embassy number, get the police ID and make him change career to join the poorly paid.

If embassy staff is useless and you still want to exact revenge. Write to Jakarta post editor who will take up your story. Be prepared to battle it out, and make sure your wives know you visit Classic hotels.
I guess u miss the main part I mentioned about embassy and police report which u suggested earlier...

I just feel S'porean is not very street smart in oversea.... Little hiccup, first thing in mind, make police report, lodge a complaint. If it is a minor problem, what does S'porean expects the police or embassy staff to do??

I survived 8 years in oversea, in 3 different cities, all these lie on how u handle the situation. As long as small money makes wonder then move on. Dun dwell over them...
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I didn't see a lot of prc in sands but I don't think the quality is good. Don't waste your money on prc in Indo, for Rp1 mil you can bonk twice with the local.
Tks bro for your advice. I went to sands on thur and lil bro just got the better of me and decided to take a Chinese masseuse. She was not the syt type that we can find more easily in sg but she did give very good gfe. I am back to sg and i guess I could do with some guidance from bros who frequent or are stationed in jkt the next time. Bro, u staying there?
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Seldom go out n cheong....
Wah that is so unsual of you man.

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Tks bro for your advice. I went to sands on thur and lil bro just got the better of me and decided to take a Chinese masseuse. She was not the syt type that we can find more easily in sg but she did give very good gfe. I am back to sg and i guess I could do with some guidance from bros who frequent or are stationed in jkt the next time. Bro, u staying there?
No I don't stay in JKT, just go there very often.
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wow 2 million per head... tats ultra big conning..

just take it as lesson learnt i guess... at least now u know the magic number,"RP200k" will do..

usually when i got caught and make traffic offences,i only paid them 20k since my car is crap... the most only 50k.

but then again,they always hike their price on foreigners...
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Hi bros in jkt, I'm new in the place. Wanna know if there are nice budget places (600k and below) around Gunung Sahari to go for? I went to Orchardz Hotel and spent 630k. Was okay, service by lady was very commercialized type.

Thanks in advance...
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We were all really really down, all 5 of us after what happened. We were discussing and talking and couldnt even sleep no matter how tired we were. So i wanna ask any bros who had such an encounter and to the senior bros, what could one possible do in the event such as this? Or is this just a matter of luck? Thanks[/QUOTE]

After reading the postings and the comments from senior brothers, I can only joined in to say, " I am sad to hear of the unfortunate incident." Ramadan or no Ramadan, the roads after 12mightnite is flooded by police road blocks. These coppers unable to find extra coffers in the day, always resort to "extorting" innocent travellers out in the wee hours for money.

To start with, as a tourist you don't need a visa to enter Indonesia if you hail from the ASEAN zone. You are allowed a 30 days free visit and you can travel to any part of Indonesia except for West Papua and Irian Jaya where you need special permit. As your enter any port of call, your passport is stamped and that is the only stamp you need.

The police that stopped you and said your travel documents are incomplete are just trying their luck to frighten you. It is a ploy to first disorientate you and then threatened you and later asked for money. In instances like this it is always best to keep cool and not lose your temper otherwise things may be worst. What you can do is merely to state that according to Indonesian Law this is the requirement and that you have fulfilled them, it is not stated anywhere the need for an extra stamp and your have already confirmed this with the immigration authorities in Indonesia. If they still insist then said let me confirmed with my Embassy or called the Jakarta Police Hotline 112 (6221-112) and enquire.No guarantee that it works but at least worth a try.

Don't worry about being arrested, they need to file a report and the report must be endorsed by their Commanding Officer when arresting a foreigner, they have to inform the foreigner Embassy that they have arrested so and so. If it is not a bona fide case, the police will not want to waste their time and energy for that lengthy paperwork. It is always the fear of being arrrested and bringing back to the police station that scares the shit out of us "innocent" lambs and relenting to their request.

Cheers brothers, my brother Naemlo, I always feel safe cheonging with him. I let him do the talking should we get into trouble with the copper. You see I am the meek type.
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Have you tried spack hotel? It also very value for your money.
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Decided to spend my first weekend here at Oasis Spa. Taxi ride cost me RP40K from central area. Relatively easy to find as I had already done some search on Google on the loc.

Went to recept and took the RP395K VIP Package which is 1 B2B and 1 Pijat. Went up to the 2nd lvl to select gal for B2B and head up to 6th lvl rooms. Honestly don't expect too much from the gals in terms of looks or body. This is really value for money. Gal who did B2B for me boobs not very big the most 34B. But her shaven pussy area the stubbles growing out so can feel a big rough when that area brushes against my body. After B2B wash me up and then she started to auto bbbj me and then cap fj. Her pussy is considerably tight considering she ever given birth. Can tell from that sagging tummy below the belly button. No rush to finish job. Tip her RP100K.

After this head back to 2nd lvl again to select gal for pijat msg. Seem that all the gals are on lvl 2 for selection, some are for B2B and the rest for normal massage. Was recommended a small frame gal for the msg. This time the msg is done on the 3rd lvl. Overall her msg is not too bad considering her little frame. She then got me on all four and then stroke my junior. Unfortunately after the last shot little bro didn't respond much to her teasing. She then got me to lie on my back and then HJ me till I came again. But for this gals they don't allow auto roam. Tip her RP100K for the HJ.

Head back down to lvl and dip myself in the jacuzzi to recoup back my "chi". Overall left the place fairly satisfied.

Total damage RP595K that about S$80.
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