How To Get And Keep Attractive Gals Of Your Type

[Loving_Dickhead]

Bro WB, heard that you were at LV last night. How was the stock there?
I was with couple of bros over at CI, a lot of gals but quality lacking. Haiz.

[newbieboy]

Need to siam ktv for awhile now... Disappointed a number of chicks the last few days :o how many requests have you guys got for IPHONE5 already :rolleyes::D wtf man I haven't even got for myself!

On qq and wechat, high end girls got theirs the fastest... I think the lower mid tier joint girls still have to wait like commoners such as myself. 越美越早抢先拿苹果 是世界不变的定律 :D

[warbird]

My Singapore one? Yes, still the same.
........................................And so far, I find myself really missing the woman I love, whenever I am overseas.
.........................................I'm sorry but I have to say it - I have really seen too much of Chinese women, to still believe they can love. We Singaporean men are so easily KCed by them, because we have been brought up in an environment where women do not generally treat men as men. The Chinese woman knows ALL the tricks to make men feel like men. Once they have caught your heart, all the pattern starts to appear.
...................................Guard your heart.

Hi bro chenzong,

It's wonderful to hv a true love, a soul mate...you're a lucky man.

Cheers!

Bro WB, heard that you were at LV last night. How was the stock there?
I was with couple of bros over at CI, a lot of gals but quality lacking. Haiz.

Hi Bro LDH,

Many gals, but quality very poor. The better looking gals must hv been prebooked.

Cheers!


Need to siam ktv for awhile now... Disappointed a number of chicks the last few days :o how many requests have you guys got for IPHONE5 already...........wtf man I haven't even got for myself!

On qq and wechat, high end girls got theirs the fastest... I think the lower mid tier joint girls still have to wait like commoners such as myself. 越美越早抢先拿苹果 是世界不变的定律

Hi bro newbieboy,

You've increased ur attractiveness to the gals by saying NO. What hv they done for u to deserve a iphone5? If a gal is ur exclusive GF n she has served u well, buying her the phone would be very reasonable.

Cheers!

Bro WB

........................................

Good afternoon!

Last wk I receive the following email on "How to own a gold digger."

It's illuminating n thought-provoking hahaha.

I want to reiterate this to all esteemed SBF bros here: You're the PRIZE!

I know I'm, not the gals, regardless of how young n attractive they r. As a result, I feel GREAT n it's contagious...yesterday upped a 20 yo tall gal of my type w/o BY-ing whom I thought, just 2 wks ago, might be out of my reach for various reasons. Very good fxk! And, this AM my 18 yo mistress told me her 大姨妈 was leaving exceptionally early n wanted me to make love to her later today!

Here is the email:

Hey Bro Warbird,

Today I want to share something funny but that makes
absolute sense when it comes to dating...

This is one of my all time favorites... I figure most
of you have seen this, but for those who have not, enjoy:
9/25/07 THIS APPEARED ON CRAIG'S LIST in New
York

What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush.
I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25
year old girl. I'm articulate and classy.

I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get
married to a guy who makes at least half a
million a year. I know how that sounds, but
keep in mind that a million a year is middle
class in New York City, so I don't think I'm
overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on
this board? Any wives? Could you send me some
tips? I dated a business man who makes
average around 200 - 250. But that's where I
seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get me
to central park west. I know a woman in my
yoga class who was married to an investment
banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as
pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So
what is she doing right? How do I get to her
level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give
me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be
honest guys, you won't hurt my feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting
(I'm 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish
lifestyles on the upper east side so plain?
I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types
who have nothing to offer married to
incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead
gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east
village. What's the story there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows
- lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much
do those guys really make? And where do they
hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang
out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a
girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself
out there in an honest way. Most beautiful
women are superficial; at least I'm being up
front about it. I wouldn't be searching for
these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match
them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and
keeping a nice home and hearth.

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with
services or other commercial interests

PostingID: 432279810

THE ANSWER

Dear Pers-431649184:

I read your posting with great interest and
have thought meaningfully about your dilemma.
I offer the following analysis of your
predicament.

Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify
as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make
more than $500K per year. That said here's
how I see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy
like me, is plain and simple a crappy
business deal. Here's why. Cutting through
all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple
trade: you bring your looks to the party and
I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here's
the rub, your looks will fade and my money
will likely continue into perpetuity...in
fact, it is very likely that my income
increases but it is an absolute certainty
that you won't be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating
asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are
you a depreciating asset, your depreciation
accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now
and will likely stay pretty hot for the next
5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade
begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a
trading position, not a buy and hold...hence
the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good
business sense to "buy you" (which is what
you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case
you think I'm being cruel, I would say the
following. If my money were to go away, so
would you, so when your beauty fades I need
an out. It's as simple as that. So a deal
that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career
about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a
girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly
beautiful" as you has been unable to find your sugar
daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you
are as gorgeous as you say you are that the
$500K hasn't found you, if not only for a
tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to
make your own money and then we wouldn't need
to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you're going
about it the right way.

Classic "pump and dump."

I hope this is helpful, and if you want to
enter into some sort of lease, let me know.

[Loving_Dickhead]

Bro WB, I am going back to my fav old joint, LIDO Palace. :D
Cheers.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Bro WB, I am going back to my fav old joint, LIDO Palace. :D
Cheers.

Shhhhhhhh...................taboo place, cannot mention.
Later people say u hao lian then u noe lol ;)

[Loving_Dickhead]

Shhhhhhhh...................taboo place, cannot mention.
Later people say u hao lian then u noe lol ;)

OH yar... I better diam diam right bo? Hee hee.
:D:D:D

[warbird]

Bro WB, I am going back to my fav old joint, LIDO Palace. :D
Cheers.

Hi Bro LDH,

Good for u!

In what way r the gals there different from those at TAM complex? Are they prettier?

Shhhhhhhh...................taboo place, cannot mention.
Later people say u hao lian then u noe lol ;)

Hi Mr. Chairman,

I hv never been to LP.

Bro LDH not hao lian as he was merely stating a fact...

You two r very fortunate to be independently wealthy at such young age haha.

Cheers!

.............................................

Good afternoon!

Of all the gals I hv upped or BY-ed in the last several yrs, 80% of them I hv picked up outside KTVs, both in SG n China.

The 20 yo gal TH I upped this wk is no exception. Earlier this month after finishing a HH session at LV, I literally bumped into her as she hurriedly emerged from the lift. She had just arrived for work. I was momentarily stunned by her good looks n proportionate figure. What a beautiful round butt n long legs...n unlike many tall slim gals she also has large natural C boobs...n sexually very responsive. Why my mummies never intro gals like her? She arrived here 1 month ago on student visa...

Cheers!

Bro WB

I believe one of the most attractive masculine traits is formidable emotional control. It's what separates men from "boys."

Here is a brief email on the subject.

Hey Bro Warbird,

Quick, what should you do if the woman in your life tries to start
an argument, gets upset, or is otherwise emotional?

If you pay attention to the girlie men in the media, you would
think the answer would be to argue, get equally upset, and get
emotional as hell. Where does that leave you?

With two upset people, getting more upset at each other, with the
man whining that the woman doesn't "respect him." Duh. Women
don't respect men who can't control their emotions.

You have to understand the female brain operates differently than
the male brain. Getting emotional to a woman means something
vastly different than a man getting emotional.

If a woman is upset, in a bad mood, or just plain emotional, she
wants a man to bring her back to center, to provide a strong,
calming presence. Do that, and after a short amount of time
passes, and her emotions will reset to hers.

But act like a girlie man, get upset, whine, and argue, and your
emotional state will feed hers. Women's emotions reset to the
emotions of the man in their lives, and if he's needy, whiney,
argumentative, and jealous, she will be too.

Provide an atmosphere of strength, security, and grace under
pressure, and her base emotional state will reset to yours. No,
she won't always be calm, as women never are. But she will
eventually reset to your emotional state, looking to you as a place
of grounding.

Many men in this day and age have no clue about this. They think
they need to be sensitive, emotional, and feminine like women, and
so they exhibit female emotional characteristics, not understanding
this feeds turbulent emotions.

There are reasons why women want a MAN in their lives, and one of
the big reasons is the calming influence of a man who does not let
his emotions get out of control under duress. She knows she can
come to him during times of turbulence, and his presence will calm
her.

This is an important tenet of relationship management. Many
relationships dissolve because of the additive power of male
emotional turmoil, the man not understanding he needs to provide a
place of calm and comfort.

Let the girlie men be girlie men, living their life crying,
wailing, whining and arguing. You be calm, maintain your good
humor in the face of emotional turmoil, and you will be the one who
keeps the woman.

Cheers

Mr. Guru

[patch]

Esteemed Bros, after reading through all your posts and replies, I need your advice on how to go about tackling “girl A” & “girl B”.
I was at CI (level 3) last week entertaining an overseas client.
Being the most junior amongst the group, I stayed back until closing time to ensure that all was good. Just before closing, my client who sat with two girls went to the toilet with one of his girls, girl B who also sat with my client then sat beside me and asked for my number which I gladly gave (my usual CI girl, “girl A” had left by then) . Girl B later smsed me later that night saying that she had a good impression of me. It’s my 1st time in a long long time that a ktv girl had approached me to ask me for my number, so even though Girl B wasn’t pretty, I was “gian”.
Girl A has sat with me for 4 times now but I have yet go out with her and will be doing so this weekend. But I’ve to go to CI again this week again, should I call “girl A” or “girl B”? Since I’m already going out with “girl A” this weekend, I’m thinking that I should call “girl B” but what if “girl A” finds out?
Question 1 - How should I manage this situation?

I would like to up both girls but don’t have the kind of money to “ta bao” them. I like visiting KTVs at Havelock road for both business and pleasure but I really don’t have the money to “ta bao” these girls. I’ve been cheonging joints like Armani, dong meng and NSH for many years now and it was only recently due to work that I have been going to joints like CI, TAM and LV.
Question 2 – How can I up both girls without having to spend money to “ta bao” them? I don’t mind bringing them out to tourist places to visit (which is what I usually do) but how should I up them at least costs? I’ve spent 1 hour reading through this thread but can’t seem to find an answer to this query.

Thanks in advance for the advice from a grateful salaried worker bro.

[jnewwit]

Patch,
I think you, think too much.

Why think who you should meet, when you haven't arrived on site? Especially if these girls are not your bao-ee. Before you arrive, sms one at a time (space out by 15 minutes and after their usual wake-up time say 3:30pm) that you'll be going down. If anyone respond say "好啊“， then you got one response, if not, move on to next girl.

If you want to make a move, make it, lips move close to cheek, light peck, if ok, move to ear lobe/neck, then mouth. If cannot, you can forget about wasting time to bring her to touristy place. If she is after your money, then no need to bring to toursty place, if she feels ”connecting", then you better plug in and connect, don't waste time.

Mind you, don't go beyond "like" with them KTV gals, their heart are solid steel. And they know they are here for money. They find money first, the rest talk later. You'll know if she pours out her "souped up" problems (usually family member sick, loans to pay sibling school fees lah etc), then you know its the money-hooking time and you need to distance and leave.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

If you want to make a move, make it, lips move close to cheek, light peck, if ok, move to ear lobe/neck, then mouth. If cannot, you can forget about wasting time to bring her to touristy place. If she is after your money, then no need to bring to toursty place, if she feels ”connecting", then you better plug in and connect, don't waste time.

For me i more garang.
1st time i like i pull her over n kiss lips.
No resistance, will go for more but won't screw yet.
2nd time go, same gal but only call her when I am there.
If not free, game over.
If not free but cancel her table to come over instead, cfm kill in waiting lo;)

[jnewwit]

For me i more garang.
1st time i like i pull her over n kiss lips.
No resistance, will go for more but won't screw yet.
2nd time go, same gal but only call her when I am there.
If not free, game over.
If not free but cancel her table to come over instead, cfm kill in waiting lo;)

You're the man!;)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

You're the man!;)
No bro, when u cheong long enuff, wanna play shy shy act gentleman carry bag n stuff, only sucker n loser will be urself.
Also, dun let them hang up n sell on u, always do reverse.
Always remember, they need u more than u need them.

[fallen.angel]

No bro, when u cheong long enuff, wanna play shy shy act gentleman carry bag n stuff, only sucker n loser will be urself.
Also, dun let them hang up n sell on u, always do reverse.
Always remember, they need u more than u need them.

This is the best man!! :)

[cohen]

Bros
check this out!
hope it helps refine your techniques,
cheers :p

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[justl00king]

Question 1 - How should I manage this situation?

I would like to up both girls but don’t have the kind of money to “ta bao” them. Bro,

These are ktv gals here we talking about, they are here to make money..period.

They spend time with you for tips. If the gal ask for your number, maybe got liking for you and can foc. It does happens, or else just make a offer to them if you wanna up.

If they refuse then next better player cos there just so many around!

[andyk]

Really Interesting....after a such "long break from SBF" this thread is still "alive & kicking" !!! And even though sometimes we still "entertain our regular Mamasans' calls to give them some support"....honestly there's no longer any more kick at LV or LP because the standard of PRC Babes will always be the same...most are actually very experienced because some have worked in Shanghai etc...then because her "sisters" told her that SG Guys are damn kind hearted or generous !!!...Then there are Newbies that usually will arranged by my Mamasan....they best enjoyed the 1st week then after that lots of customers will be throwing monies at them...then they will be "brainwashed or blinded"....the next room will or can "outbid whatever tips U will give them !!!" :mad:

I have tis Rich Bro that have pleaded with me....that he attracted to my gal very much so can i let him have her !!! I told him that...she's a working gal and I seldom do KTV tis days....of course he can have her !!! ;)

So many funny stories liked both my good Bros actually "screwing the same PRC gal till one day they found out about her two timing !!!"

Till next time...

Cheers & Enjoy !!!
Andyk :)

[easy3228]

Going to KTV is similar to going to a theme park. Just go there any enjoys all the rides (girls). Why stick to the same ride during each visit...The Theme park is so huge.

Just a advice to bros who are still visiting the KTVs. (Stop that for nearly a decade)...

[warbird]

Esteemed Bros, after reading through all your posts and replies, I need your advice on how to go about tackling “girl A” & “girl B”.
I was at CI (level 3) last week...................Since I’m already going out with “girl A” this weekend, I’m thinking that I should call “girl B” but what if “girl A” finds out?
Question 1 - How should I manage this situation?

I would like to up both girls but don’t have the kind of money to “ta bao” them.............

Question 2 – How can I up both girls without having to spend money to “ta bao” them?........................................

Thanks in advance for the advice from a grateful salaried worker bro.

Hi bro patch,

These KTV WLs r here for money. It will take much time n effort to up them for free.

There is a faster way which could give u a very handsome ROI.

Spend money the 1st time to tao bao them, make sure you give them sexual pleasure they hv NEVER experienced before. Must be earth-shaking continuous orgasmic state. Then u can make love to them for less than half price the next time. After a few sessions they will give u free fxk. And within a month or so, they will become sexually addicted to u!!:p

Please also read advice from esteemed bros below.


Patch,
I think you, think too much.

Why think who you should meet, when you haven't arrived on site? Especially if these girls are not your bao-ee. Before you arrive, sms one at a time....
If you want to make a move, make it, lips move close to cheek, light peck, if ok, move to ear lobe/neck, then mouth. If cannot, you can forget about wasting time to bring her to touristy place. If she is after your money, then no need to bring to toursty place, if she feels ”connecting", then you better plug in and connect, don't waste time.

Mind you, don't go beyond "like" with them KTV gals, their heart are solid steel. And they know they are here for money...........

Very good advice, bro.

For me i more garang.
1st time i like i pull her over n kiss lips.
No resistance, will go for more but won't screw yet.
2nd time go, same gal but only call her when I am there.
If not free, game over.
If not free but cancel her table to come over instead, cfm kill in waiting lo

Ths for ur advcie, Mr. chairman.

No bro, when u cheong long enuff, wanna play shy shy act gentleman carry bag n stuff, only sucker n loser will be urself.
Also, dun let them hang up n sell on u, always do reverse.
Always remember, they need u more than u need them.

Yes, never be a wussy nice guy. Be a man n fxk them like a man.

This is the best man!! :)

You're THE PRIZE!

Bros
check this out!
hope it helps refine your techniques,
cheers



Ths for sharing, bro cohen.

Bro,

These are ktv gals here we talking about, they are here to make money..period.

They spend time with you for tips.........

If they refuse then next better player cos there just so many around!

Good pointer!

Really Interesting....after a such "long break from SBF" this thread is still "alive & kicking" !!! And even though sometimes we still "entertain our regular Mamasans' calls to give them some support"....honestly there's no longer any more kick at LV or LP because the standard of PRC Babes will always be the same.....................

I have tis Rich Bro that have pleaded with me....that he attracted to my gal very much so can i let him have her !!! I told him that...she's a working gal and I seldom do KTV tis days....of course he can have her !!! ;)

So many funny stories liked both my good Bros actually "screwing the same PRC gal till one day they found out about her two timing !!!"



Hi bro andyk,

Welcome back!

You must be too busy w/ ur bevy of mistresses/GFs/lovers.

Actually the quality of gals has declined a lot at LV/CI/TAM in the last few yrs. Nowadays, pretty newbies r as rare as unicorns haha.

Cheers!

..........................................

Good afternoon!

EN is very relaxed n comfortable in my presence now. The 1st time I was going to make love to her in her hotel rm, just over 2 months ago, she was so anxious, no, so frightful, just like a little lamb meeting a big bad wolf unexpectedly...she actually said she wasn't ready. I almost wanted to send her back to PRC! I controlled my emotions n returned the next day. This time I lay down on her bed, fully clothed, and told her abt the exploits of the infamous hypocrite Jimmy Swaggart n several sexual jokes. She giggled n laughed...n later I proceeded to consummate the deal. Her service has greatly improved but it's still very difficult to give her multiple orgasms...:(

BTW, I hv alluded to the fact that if a Chinese gal french u willingly, her pussy is yours, in over 95% of cases.

There is a better test. If a gal, doesn't matter if I met her only 5 min ago or whether she is a KTV gal or a non-WL, willingly let me caress n massage her neck n upper back, her pussy is mine. It has been 100% predictive.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[DegenerationX]

BTW, I hv alluded to the fact that if a Chinese gal french u willingly, her pussy is yours, in over 95% of cases.

There is a better test. If a gal, doesn't matter if I met her only 5 min ago or whether she is a KTV gal or a non-WL, willingly let me caress n massage her neck n upper back, her pussy is mine. It has been 100% predictive.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro, your test accurate?

[matureguy_sg]

For me i more garang.
1st time i like i pull her over n kiss lips.
No resistance, will go for more but won't screw yet.
2nd time go, same gal but only call her when I am there.
If not free, game over.
If not free but cancel her table to come over instead, cfm kill in waiting lo;)

Mine is it conside garangbo? i told the gal if cannot kiss and hug, don come in the room, like tat can bo...so gal that come in sure and hug and kiss..:D

[Grassland19744]

I just test it Yesterday at a flower joint, one gal come over I put my hand and massage her neck and she seem to enjoy it and suddenly my usual gal come over and ask me to ding tai for her but I say no because I don't want to spend money and when I try to put my hand on her neck also but she push my hand away and ask me why I don't book table for her and I tell her that i want to ding tai for another gal and she immediately ask the waitress over and tell the waitress in front of me that I will book table for her, I LAN LAN say ok to the waitress... Then I try to touch her neck and this time she did not reject.

[warbird]

Bro, your test accurate?

Hi Bro DX,

It has not failed me yet.

Let me reiterate: If a gal willing let me caress, massage n kiss her neck n upper back, her pussy will be mine. I'm 100% certain. But you must know what you're doing...

It works well for all gals, regardless of ethnicity, creed, nationality, occupation, social-economic status, etc.

Mine is it conside garangbo? i told the gal if cannot kiss and hug, don come in the room, like tat can bo...so gal that come in sure and hug and kiss..:D

Hi bro,

Great strategy if you're only looking for gals who do ST. But you may be missing those more challenging ones.

I just test it Yesterday at a flower joint, one gal come over I put my hand and massage her neck and she seem to enjoy it and suddenly my usual gal come over.....Then I try to touch her neck and this time she did not reject.

Hi Bro Grassland,

Ths for sharing ur experience.

Have u upped both gals yet? If so, congrats to u. If u hv not, how do u know this neck massage strategy work?

Cheers!

.................................................. ..............

Good morning!

More on neck n back massage.

Let's suppose u hv already connected w/ a gal. If she refuses to let u massage her neck, she doesn't want u to fxk her. Period. Forget her immediately. Trying to get into her pants would be a daunting task. It's not worth it. There r tens of thousands of prettier n younger gals out there hahaha. Life is too short to waste ur time on this stuck up gal. It's her grave loss.

BTW, if u know how to caress, massage n kiss a gal's erogenous areas in her neck n upper back, she will feel so shiok n so aroused, her pussy is yours...even if she had no intention of letting u hv her pussy initially. BTW, don't be the strong silent type, do whisper some sweet words n phrases in her ear. Before long her pussy will be dripping wet n she will fantasize u moving down to her most erogenous parts...she may start kissing u haha.

I forgot to mention that u should connect n establish rapport w/ her first. Make her laugh. And you should start off by caressing her hand n wrist...if she is receptive, move on to her neck.

BTW, some gals don't french in public, especially if they hv just met u.

TH wanted to see me yesterday, unexpectedly haha. She is almost as tall as EN, but slightly older at 20. Also very large C boobs...must try tit fxk next time. Much more easily orgasmic than EN. Left her in early evening n rushed to pick up my lao po for dinner. But too tired to make love to her...

Cheers!

Bro WB

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I LAN LAN say ok to the waitress... Then I try to touch her neck and this time she did not reject.
U tis type singer's favourite type.
Control u till can call the shots for u.
As good as gv her ur keys n power of attorney for all signatory needs liao.
厉害
We call this type Chee Bye singer wif a lan jiao
We call this type of customer a lan jiao customer wif a chee bye
Perfect match made in heaven
Kudos n cuntgratulations bro :D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Till next time...

Cheers & Enjoy !!!
Andyk :)


OMG!! Bro andyk, How have you been? :D

It's been a very very long time no hear from you :D

[warbird]

Good morning!

A reflection on picking up gals. Of all the KTV gals I hv ST-ed n BY-ed, 90% I hv picked up inside n outside KTVs. My most recent is TH.

Just the other day, an unknown man tried to pick up EN not far from PC. He must be a SBF bro who had read this thread hahaha. But he approached the wrong gal n his timing couldn't be worse. She was waiting for my car to pick her up, across the street from PC. BTW, she stays within walking distance of PC, near Niven Rd.

She was mistaken for a KTV WL. She was not n is not，bro. She looked 18-19, 172, abt 53-54kg, wearing a light green mini skirt, standing 15-20M from Starbuck. She got in my car n pointed to the back of a relatively young man, who was walking briskly towards PC Food Centre, n snickered, 刚才那人和我说话， 说baby, 宝贝，跟我去吧。。。我开始以为他和别人说话， 可是都没别人， 他又说一遍。。。我没看他没睬他，他就走了。

I like to say this to the unknown bro: Well done! Dun be discouraged. If the gal was unattached n worked at a KTV, she would hv gone w/ u. So try, try again n again.

My other favourite topic is how to get gals sexually addicted to me. Here is an email written by a female guru I like to share:

"Oxytocin Tip"

Hey Bro Warbird,

I was talking to a girlfriend of mine who
is absolutely CRAZY and OBSESSED with
her SUPER MEAN ex-boyfriend…

He’s broke, unemployed, uses her for
her car…and cheats on her ALL THE TIME!
But I already knew EXACTLY why she
was still hung up on him...she didn’t
have to explain anything.
Have you ever wondered why some
women act so “clingy” or why they fall
DESPERATELY for complete jerks?

Scientists have been researching it
for YEARS…but a lot of those
womanizers already know the answer.

The reason women get SUPER CRAZY
and HYSTERICAL over guys who don’t
treat them nice is because…

Women get HIGHLY ADDICTED TO SEX
WITH THESE MEN!

Sound a little crazy?

I thought so too…but it’s true!

You see, there’s a chemical that’s
released only in women…it makes them
wanna hold onto a guy after sex…and
it’s actually the reason they get super
clingy afterwards.

BUT…it’s only released when she has a
super intense orgasm...

It’s called “oxytocin”…and the stronger
the orgasm, the MORE OF IT she gets!

Pretty soon, she gets ADDICTED to the
feeling of strong orgasms, she physically
starts NEEDING them, and eventually…

She’ll do ANYTHING to get them!

It doesn’t matter what you look
like, how much money you have, or
what gifts you buy her…if you can give a
woman an orgasm POWERFUL ENOUGH
to MAX OUT her oxytocin levels…

She’ll get hooked on you FOR LIFE!

You’re probably VERY EAGER to hear
how you can get her OVER THE EDGE in
a fit of ORGASMIC ECTASY, aren’t you?

Well, the answer is actually really
simple…

The only way you can get a woman at
her ORGASMIC PEAK is to give her the
CRAZIEST, most THRILLING orgasm
POSSIBLE…which means…

You have to give her a SQUIRTING
ORGASM!

When you give your girl a squirting
orgasm, she’ll want you and only you…

She’ll do ANYTHING to keep you
happy!

You’ll get your favorite meals every
night, welcome-home blowjobs,
THREESOMES…

You name it you got it!

If you can give her a squirting orgasm,
you help her release oxytocin, which makes
her chemically ADDICTED.

Soon enough you’ll be on your way to
having the life you always wanted…the
life you always DREAMED of…

Hot round-the-clock sex putting
teenagers to shame…a loving, caring,
supportive lady…the reputation of the
ULTIMATE SEX GOD…

Not only that…

You won’t ever have to worry about
entering that “boring sex phase” most
couples fear…because she’ll be begging
you…PLEADING you for sex EVERY
CHANCE she gets.

She’ll be worshipping your manhood on a
daily basis…and EVEN BETTER, she’ll do
it MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY TOO!

Just think, you won’t ever have to worry
if she’s satisfied anymore…because the
chemistry will be sizzling hot.

Which means less fighting at home and
less stress at work because
EVERYTHING at home will be going
smoothly…

I’m talking about a complete peace of
mind once and for all!

But be careful…

She’ll become so crazy addicted to your
sex…that there’s no telling WHAT she’ll
do to have you!

Guru XXK

[chenzong]

Bro, your test accurate?

Worked for Bro WB, worked for me too - both the kissing and the massage part.

[warbird]

Worked for Bro WB, worked for me too - both the kissing and the massage part.

Hi bro chengzong,

I'm glad that my hypothesis on the intimate link between kissing/neck massage n pussy has worked for u.

For gals who don't do ST, I don't normally go straight to kissing. I start by caressing/massaging/kissing the hands, wrists n forearms. If she is completely comfortable n is enjoying it, I move to the neck n ears. Then n only then will I french her...

Cheers!

Bro WB

[johnsm]

It's been awhile since I posted but this is an intriguing thread to read. Well, at least for me. There are some gentlemen here like DYBJ, LDH and WB that have posted some interesting insights in investments, behavioral patterns etc.

It took me a couple of months to finish reading the whole thread due to personal time constraints but it kept me busy and I reflected on many of the posts DYBJ and WB had written.

I hope to share some of my opinions and experience as well. Hopefully some of the mates here will chip in and engage in further discussion.

Over the years, I have stopped believing in paying someone directly for sexual favors. Of course, nothing is FREE and I have always paid in other ways like for dates and holidays etc. I progressed through the usual HC and KTV route that most have gone through. However there was always something lacking as sex was not the primary motivation for me. It was the challenge to get the numbers of the WLs and know them further.

I have gone a little further than just WLs to try my luck and I realize that you can almost pick-up anyone if you try hard enough. Students are usually easy to pick up in clubs especially in Singapore and other asian countries. I find Singaporean gals are quite easy-going compared to other countries.

I have also picked up air stewardess on long-haul flights as you get a chance to engage them in small talk. Most of them are quite willingly to engage in conversations about current affairs and happenings around the world, which can be quite intriguing. I then ask them out to go to a party as a date as I usually have a couple black-tie events-cum-party to attend in-country. I actually empathize with them when they are overseas for those who know how they spend their time when they fly.

Having shared the above, picking up is only the beginning of the game. Good if they agree quickly if not no biggie. I can just move on to the next gal. As WB and DYBJ repeated many times, there are plenty of gals around so no need to get hung up. At this stage, being a gentleman while flirting playfully helps alot. Usually if they laugh at your silly antics and attempts to touch you on the side of your arm or shoulder while talking will mean they will kinda of like you.

*To be continued*

[johnsm]

I believe the usual traits of being confident of oneself which has been mentioned to death in this thread is one of the key as it is being reflected in your body language.

In my experience, if they agree to go out with you and actually turn up, chances are they will follow you back for the night. Usually, I will just service them to completion for this first meeting and will not have sex, no matter how they say. For me, that is still the beginning as my challenge is to get them to become a regular lover or whatever you call it.

This is the hardest part as the gals would be surprised and think that it is only a ONS. The second time we meet up, it would become more of an actual date which could be quite fun since you got the "sex" done with and away in the first meeting. Lolz. Now the KC game begins. If the other party is also a player then it takes a while to break down defenses. Well that is what I like, a challenge.

For the first 2-3 dates, I try to keep teasing the gal and still not have any after-date activities to keep her guessing. By the time we do it, she will be on heat. During this phase, I realize being mysterious would further pique the gal's interest. Of course, not giving in to the gal easily would also further allow you to dominate the relationship. I too sell them the "dream" depending on their wants and needs. Some want to settle down and marry while some want to start their own business and what-nots. Not that difficult since everyone wants to believe what they want to hear or see. Once they get sticky, I just stop the relationship stating the obvious reasons, which will be amicable.

I have always done this with strangers but never with work associates. I wonder if it wise to do it. Recently I have met a SYT during a conference but with an organization that I am close with. She is quite out-spoken for her age and has that child-like ("tia") voice that some Taiwanese gals have, which has attracted my attention. She agrees to go for a drink but I have yet the chance to ask her out as she is in another country. I am still evaluating if I should take up this challenge?

Currently I am also progressing with a KTV gal that I met but she has never sat with me. A cute innocent-looking 25 YO from GZ. I just happened to meet her along the corridor and got her number. We have been chatting on QQ for a couple of months. She is going back to China soon so I may drop by her hometown stating that I would like to take a holiday and ask for her company. She agrees. I wanted to get her a gift for her time but she does not want. I wonder what game she is playing but will play along. This would be fun.

[MoralEpitome]

Dear Gurus, I have not been here for quite some time, reason being, I have been totally KCed by this singer! What was initially a great return on ROI became a bad investment simply because I became KCed by her. Now I hang her flowers by cannons and buys her expensive gifts like diamonds. Although I am her official laogong, and she swears that she is only fucking me there is no way I can verify this for sure, I know there are many other guys paying to go out with her, one guy actually gave her $2K just to eat dinner, etc, etc....any ideas how can I test her to see if how true she is to me and definitely I am cutting back on my expenses to get back my ROI on her.

Also any idea what is the best pass or way to get her back after her six months singer's pass expire?

Thank you guys very much!

[fallen.angel]

Oh no Bro ME, I think you have been KCed really badly this time…

I never question if I’m the only guy my gal would go to bed with – I just assume I’m not the only guy. Its easier that way. And it makes the eventual breaking up hassle-free. That’s just me. Also becos she will never be the only gal I’ll bed. But no gals will know they are not the only one I’ll bonk – if I can hide it, how much more easier for them to hide that fact themselves?

Maybe I’ll think differently if I’m single or have all the free time (and spare cash) in the world but assuming I’m not the only guy gives me defense against being KCed. Takes away all the guessing, second-guessing, etc and makes the relationship so much easier to maintain.

Forget ROI bro! I would not spend so much on 1 gal. I would have already spent enough on her – what-with the cannons and diamond. I’ll just cut back my spending and move on to the next target (or cheaper alternatives like GL150, FLs, etc). Who knows? Maybe she will come back to you – which is an added bonus. Try not to think about recuperating your losses and get a little bit more return from your investment – the rabbit hole is deeper than you think… and I know jolly well my (for my case, anyways) pockets are not as deep.

$2K just to have dinner? Yup, rich people like to spoil market. Just make my bonking a 20yo Singaporean model with good looks and a super nice body+boobs in a 5 star hotel suite for $2.5K seems reasonable.

The way I see it – if a guy can pay her $2K just to have dinner, how much more could he pay her for an hour or two in a 5 star hotel? And with no strings attached? I’ll take it if I’m the singer!

You need to break away from the KC trap you got yourself into before its too late. Good luck bro!

[fallen.angel]

Back to the topic on picking up gals outside KTVs…

Me and my friend did just that on Monday… at about 11+pm after a drink in a boring pub somewhere in Orchard, I drove my friend to Havelock Road… circled outside TAM to try pick up gals leaving the complex… our enemy was the taxis, saw a few good catches but a little hesitation saw them jumping into taxis.

I dropped off my friend and made another round: Outram – Chin Swee – Havelock. And by the time I drove back, he already gotten 2 gals. At first the gals were a little apprehensive boarding my car but once we reached Tiong Bahru to have supper, we somehow broke the ice. We had lobster porridge and chatted away till almost 3am before sending them home – which was not far away from their workplace. Btw, the lobster porridge for 4 set me back for $200+ but it was money well spent and it was a great night – definitely better (and cheaper) than opening a bottle for a room at Havelock + tips for mamasan + tips for the gal + tips for the waiter.

[johnsm]

Dear Gurus, I have not been here for quite some time, reason being, I have been totally KCed by this singer! What was initially a great return on ROI became a bad investment simply because I became KCed by her. Now I hang her flowers by cannons and buys her expensive gifts like diamonds. Although I am her official laogong, and she swears that she is only fucking me there is no way I can verify this for sure, I know there are many other guys paying to go out with her, one guy actually gave her $2K just to eat dinner, etc, etc....any ideas how can I test her to see if how true she is to me and definitely I am cutting back on my expenses to get back my ROI on her.

Also any idea what is the best pass or way to get her back after her six months singer's pass expire?

Thank you guys very much!

Hey ME,

I am not a guru, neither am I qualified to give advise. However below is my few cents worth of thoughts and opinion.

You have definitely been KC-ed by this singer, which you already know yourself. I hope you have not been approaching the singer by appearing to be needy and desperate for attention, else she will definitely own you!

First, I think you need to take some time off her, get your mind per-occupied with something else. You can either spend more time at work really working, spend some quality time with your family or find another gal. Anything that helps you take your mind off this gal.

Once you start calm your inner anxiety, I am sure you will not have such strong feelings for this singer anymore. STOP buying her gifts and supporting her at the venues. Do not just cut back. This will definitely grab her attention if you have been her biggest sponsor or "lao gong" as you call it. She will probably approach you about your change in attitude, appear to be nonchalant about it. I am almost sure that she will change her attitude and try to woo you back.

As you mentioned, she is willing to go out with someone who paid her $2K for dinner. That makes it easy to test her. A problem that can be solved with money is not a problem. Get a few pre-paid numbers or even friends and text her asking for ST. If it does not work, get a few friends to support her at the venue and try to bed her afterwards after 2-3 meetings.

I would advise one thing, be dominant and do not be all needy for her attention although she may seem to be a good investment initially. Do not tell her everything about yourself, leave something for the imagination. She is probably just another passing phase in your life. There are tons and tons of prettier and better gals out there really. No need to be depressed.

[fallen.angel]

Aiyo, no need to test lah. Any singer worth her salt will know the trap being set up for her.

OK, so what if you manage to convince yourself (with enough evidence gathered) that she only sleeps with you? Does that then justify throwing hard earned money at her?

The issue here is you being KCed by her and you know it’s a bad investment – low ROI. Whether she only sleeps with you and nobody else is immaterial.

Enjoy the KC but don’t lose control over your financials – she will not be responsible for your spending and your financial well-being. Only you are. Maybe you spent too much on the onset and set her expectations too high… but then again, maybe that was why she chose you over other guys?

[newbieboy]

Enjoy the KC but don’t lose control over your financials – she will not be responsible for your spending and your financial well-being.

to everyone who's spending too much, this is KEY. Well said bro.

Losing control of your money, your temper demonstrates to them you're just a very old boy. Make them work for the first term of endearment uttered from your mouth. Makes future meetups easier for you, happier for her. They are so used to Roberts that many do enjoy a challenge. Aim to be the one to laugh with them, not the one they laugh at.

Many of these girls have confessed to me that every act of apparent "selfless love" irks them instead of moving them. Who likes their men to be jiggly mounds of jello? They know the equation too. Not pretty you will love them meh? :rolleyes: I often feast in the fruits and meals brought by these doting Roberts, to whom I extend my utmost gratitude here. Hopefully one of them will give me a diamond ring :D

[Tai_zi21]

I know there are many other guys paying to go out with her, one guy actually gave her $2K just to eat dinner, etc, etc....any ideas how can I test her to see if how true she is to me and definitely I am cutting back on my expenses to get back my ROI on her.

Also any idea what is the best pass or way to get her back after her six months singer's pass expire?

Thank you guys very much!

Just some my thoughts here since my current gf is also a PRC singer

First the fastest way to get here back in spore is after 3 months she go back,then you can apply her for tourist visa to come back! max stay only 2 months... if she wan to come back work as singer then have to wait for 1 year before she come back! if u wanna apply her as student pass here,i'm not very sure here... maybe some seniors can advice me abt tat...

How to test her? is she with you 24/7? prob spending too much on her will make u the biggest customer to attend to everytime! how well have u know her? have u decide to visit her home town together with her? and maybe meet her parents as well? given if u have spend quite an amount of time with her together,u should know her character very well by now also

Answer is are u able to handle the truth? as wat most da ge in the forum always say guys always thought only their gal is special and diff from the rest of the PRC gal...

If u wan a very truthful but harsh answer... i would suggest to look for DYBJ cos i would seek for advice from him time to time if i need some harsh but truth answer

Cheers :)

[xXFreedomXx]

Just to check with senior bros here, if KTV gals let you french kiss, what does that means? Different country girls have different meaning?

[warbird]

It's been awhile since I posted but this is an intriguing thread to read.。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

I hope to share some of my opinions and experience as well. Hopefully some of the mates here will chip in and engage in further discussion.

Over the years, I have stopped believing in paying someone directly for sexual favors. Of course, nothing is FREE and I have always paid in other ways like for dates and holidays etc.。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

Having shared the above, picking up is only the beginning of the game。。。。。。。。。


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In my experience, if they agree to go out with you and actually turn up, chances are they will follow you back for the night. Usually, I will just service them to completion for this first meeting and will not have sex。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

Hi bro johnsm,

Thanks so much for sharing ur valuable experience in picking up gals.

Are u married? Are u looking for that one 'great woman' u would like to share ur life with?

Cheers!

Dear Gurus, I have not been here for quite some time, reason being, I have been totally KCed by this singer! What was initially a great return on ROI became a bad investment simply because I became KCed by her. Now I hang her flowers by cannons and buys her expensive gifts like diamonds. Although I am her official laogong, and she swears that she is only fucking me there is no way I can verify this for sure...........
Also any idea what is the best pass or way to get her back after her six months singer's pass expire? .............

Hi Bro ME,

Totally KC-ed by a singer?

Many esteemed bros hv answered ur questions below...I just want to add that getting KC-ed will make a man lose control of the RS.

Back to the topic on picking up gals outside KTVs…

Me and my friend did just that on Monday… at about 11+pm after a drink in a boring pub somewhere in Orchard, I drove my friend to Havelock Road… circled outside TAM to try pick up gals leaving the complex…............................

Hi Bro FA,

Ths for sharing ur newest pick up experience.

Hey ME,

You have definitely been KC-ed by this singer, which you already know yourself. I hope you have not been approaching the singer by appearing to be needy and desperate for attention, else she will definitely own you!
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Hi bro,

Very rational advice.

Aiyo, no need to test lah. Any singer worth her salt will know the trap being set up for her.

OK, so what if you manage to convince yourself (with enough evidence gathered) that she only sleeps with you? Does that then justify throwing hard earned money at her?....................................

Enjoy the KC but don’t lose control over your financials..............

Hi Bro FA,

Good advice.

But whether a pussy is exclusive to a man or not is important from my standpoint. If you're 99% sure she is exclusive n if she has tested negative twice, you can safely do raw.

BTW, I'm delighted w/ 99% as nothing is 100% certain in this universe.

Cheers!


to everyone who's spending too much, this is KEY. Well said bro.

Losing control of your money, your temper demonstrates to them you're just a very old boy..................... Aim to be the one to laugh with them, not the one they laugh at.

Many of these girls have confessed to me that every act of apparent "selfless love" irks them instead of moving them. Who likes their men to be jiggly mounds of jello? They know the equation too. Not pretty you will love them meh? I often feast in the fruits and meals brought by these doting Roberts, to whom I extend my utmost gratitude here. Hopefully one of them will give me a diamond ring ...........

Hi bro newbieboy,

Well said.

Just some my thoughts here since my current gf is also a PRC singer

First the fastest way to get here back in spore is after 3 months she go back,then you can apply her for tourist visa to come back! max stay only 2 months... if she wan to come back work as singer then have to wait for 1 year before she come back! if u wanna apply her as student pass here,i'm not very sure here... maybe some seniors can advice me abt tat...

How to test her?..................

Answer is are u able to handle the truth? as wat most da ge in the forum always say guys always thought only their gal is special and diff from the rest of the PRC gal...

If u wan a very truthful but harsh answer... i would suggest to look for DYBJ cos i would seek for advice from him time to time if i need some harsh but truth answer.................

Hi bro,

Ths for ur opinion.

Just to check with senior bros here, if KTV gals let you french kiss, what does that means? Different country girls have different meaning?

Hi bro,

IMHO, her pussy is yours hahaha...

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Good morning!

Many bros still get KC-ed by the wrong women, both WLs n non-WLs.

Getting KC-ed by a wrong non-WL could be even more catastrophic. The hapless man may end up marrying n living w/ the wrong woman for the rest of his life!!

We need to remember this:

The person who cares the least controls the RS.

If you get KC-ed or if u hv more KC for her than she has for u, u lose control of the RS.

A man who loses control in any aspect of his life, especially in his RS w/ his woman, is NOT a confident n masculine man. He is most unattractive. Period.

His woman will lose respect, attraction n love for him, sooner rather than later, even if she was madly in love w/ him n was financially, emotionally n sexually addicted to him BEFORE.

She will be miserable n can choose to leave him or stay miserable...or cheat on him hahaha.

Yes, I must admit I do hv a little KC for my 2 long-term mistresses, XW n EN, but they hv more KC for me. If I had zero KC for them, the RS would be short-lived. It's perfectly OK if I lose both of them tmr haha.

I hv several options to replace them: one is a 23 yo tall (170), sexy n fair Fujian gal w/ natural C who is coming soon. I met her some time ago n never upped her. The other is a 20 yo 3rd yr student at a famous uni in China who wants to go to Gotham City to be w/ me after her graduation. She is chio n tall (168) too. She has good command of English. I'm trying to convince her to do a Master degree here in SG.

BTW, 20 yo TH has been my 'best find' inside n outside SG KTVs in the last 2 yrs. She is BY material. However, I hv already upped her...so no BY-ing her for me.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[besafe]

This lady gave me her qq number 2861917929 on SBF pm.
I am not interested.
Any bros interested can try your luck.
Cheers.

[xXFreedomXx]

thanks bro warbird for your reply.

the pussy is mine? sure for a cost. nothing is free.:D

[MoralEpitome]

Thanks to the many bros who gave such good advice, yes, I will address my KCness and I think I am less bothered by our quarrels and her demands now, got another 22 year old hubei girl who willl come back on six months singer pass, she asked me bring her out to play just now, but I was tired after my stay with my singer last night at amara and also don't know where to bring a 22 year old girl out for a night of fun, so I rejected her, any suggestions for places to bring her out?

[johnsm]

Hi bro johnsm,

Thanks so much for sharing ur valuable experience in picking up gals.

Are u married? Are u looking for that one 'great woman' u would like to share ur life with?

Cheers!

Bro WB

Hey WB,

It is my pleasure to share plus I have enjoyed reading many of your posts. I am quite intrigued with the thoughts of BY since it helps to set the stage for expectations in the r/s. However, I still do not believe in money for honey at this point but its just me.

Also I am addicted in the game of picking up and KC-ing them, WLs or not. However its not so much for the sex, but more for the thrill of it. Of course, I always try to part amicably at the end of the day for most of the r/s.

I have never believed in the "one" as I have never been impressed by any one single lady. Maybe they have more KC for me than vice-versa so I have not found a desirable one yet.

Cheers!

[jnewwit]

Thanks to the many bros who gave such good advice, yes, I will address my KCness and I think I am less bothered by our quarrels and her demands now, got another 22 year old hubei girl who willl come back on six months singer pass, she asked me bring her out to play just now, but I was tired after my stay with my singer last night at amara and also don't know where to bring a 22 year old girl out for a night of fun, so I rejected her, any suggestions for places to bring her out?

probably STJames Dragonfly.

[MoralEpitome]

I never tot I will ask this but how much do you think is reasonable to BY a gal?

[fallen.angel]

to everyone who's spending too much, this is KEY. Well said bro.

Losing control of your money, your temper demonstrates to them you're just a very old boy. Make them work for the first term of endearment uttered from your mouth. Makes future meetups easier for you, happier for her. They are so used to Roberts that many do enjoy a challenge. Aim to be the one to laugh with them, not the one they laugh at.

Many of these girls have confessed to me that every act of apparent "selfless love" irks them instead of moving them. Who likes their men to be jiggly mounds of jello? They know the equation too. Not pretty you will love them meh? :rolleyes: I often feast in the fruits and meals brought by these doting Roberts, to whom I extend my utmost gratitude here. Hopefully one of them will give me a diamond ring :D

Well said bro!

[fallen.angel]

Hi Bro FA,

Good advice.

But whether a pussy is exclusive to a man or not is important from my standpoint. If you're 99% sure she is exclusive n if she has tested negative twice, you can safely do raw.

BTW, I'm delighted w/ 99% as nothing is 100% certain in this universe.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro WB, I know what you mean and I know its damn shiok to do raw with my gal – the level of intimacy just transcends to a whole new level. BUT the problem is I’ll keep worrying about unwanted pregnancy! I don’t trust my gal with her taking contraception cos she is toying with the idea of having my baby!?!??! That’s totally insane and I’m not going to have a vasectomy!

[fallen.angel]

I never tot I will ask this but how much do you think is reasonable to BY a gal?

Your ‘reasonable’ and her ‘reasonable’ can be very different. You can get away with a lot less if you can make her sexually addicted to you but you will also have to do a lot of homework - portrait yourself to be poorer than you actually are, business not doing well, [insert your own excuses], etc.

Say if you can afford $10K a month, pay her $4K - $6K cos I can bet with you, after one year, your total spending will still average $10K per month cos of all the gifts you’d bought – birthday gift, Chinese new year (ang pow), Valentine’s day, Christmas, anniversary, etc, and believe me you will – she will try her best to squeeze as much money/gifts out of you as possible – the only guard against burning a hole in your wallet that I know of is to guard against being KCed too deeply.

[MoralEpitome]

Bro WB, I know what you mean and I know its damn shiok to do raw with my gal – the level of intimacy just transcends to a whole new level. BUT the problem is I’ll keep worrying about unwanted pregnancy! I don’t trust my gal with her taking contraception cos she is toying with the idea of having my baby!?!??! That’s totally insane and I’m not going to have a vasectomy!

You are right on this count, I am fucking my gal raw too and it brings the sex to a new level, but I am not so worried about pregnancy but STD, how can you know for sure she never had a ons with someone else

[warbird]

This lady gave me her qq number 2861917929 on SBF pm....

Hi bro besafe,

Have u met CD recently? Does she still look pretty?

thanks bro warbird for your reply.

the pussy is mine? sure for a cost. nothing is free.

Yes bro, her pussy is yours. Of course u either hv to pay in cash or in kind...

Hey WB,

It is my pleasure to share...............I am quite intrigued with the thoughts of BY since it helps to set the stage for expectations in the r/s. However, I still do not believe in money for honey at this point but its just me.

Also I am addicted in the game of picking up and KC-ing them, WLs or not................

Hi bro johnsm,

It's indeed very challenging n exciting to get many chio gals of ur type emotionally n sexually addicted to u.

But don't get addicted to or KC-ed (using a local parlance) by them yourself. Your self mastery is crucial here. It's definitely not for those who r faint-hearted.

I would call that living life at its best hahaha.

I never tot I will ask this but how much do you think is reasonable to BY a gal?

The range is wide bro. Please read Bro FA's post below.

Bro WB, I know what you mean and I know its damn shiok to do raw with my gal – the level of intimacy just transcends to a whole new level. BUT the problem is I’ll keep worrying about unwanted pregnancy!.............

Hi Bro FA,

Buy a BBT thermometer which is very accurate. If she is pregnant, send her for an abortion.

Yes, it's very shiok doing raw. IMHO, there isn't a greater pleasure in life. Even if my gal is ovulating, I'll do raw, but put on a condom before shooting my load.

Cheers!

Your ‘reasonable’ and her ‘reasonable’ can be very different. You can get away with a lot less if you can make her sexually addicted to you................

Say if you can afford $10K a month, pay her $4K - $6K cos I can bet with you, after one year, your total spending will still average $10K per month cos of all the gifts you’d bought...........................she will try her best to squeeze as much money/gifts out of you as possible – the only guard against burning a hole in your wallet that I know of is to guard against being KCed too deeply.

You're right bro.

The monthly allowance u quote is only for those gals who continue to work. Double that if u want her full-time. Some gals want even more.

Of all the non-WLs n WLs I hv had RS in my entire life, there is only one who has refused all gifts. She is one of my current long-term mistresses.

You are right on this count, I am fucking my gal raw too and it brings the sex to a new level, but I am not so worried about pregnancy but STD, how can you know for sure she never had a ons with someone else

Hi Bro ME,

If you're not sure if a gal is exclusive to u, don't do raw.

A word of warning for doing raw:

You must be 99% certain that the gal's pussy is exclusive to u. Additionally, she must hv tested HIV negative twice over 6 months n that she has been declared STDs free by a gyne specialist after exam n appropriate tests.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

A reflection on my changing behaviour.

Several yrs ago, I was only doing STs. In May 2009, I started BY-ing, mostly short-term from 1-4 wks n the gals continued to work. BTW, my 1st few BY-ings didn't go well. Then I asked my new BAO-ees not to work. The RS was still quite brief, 1-3 months. In the last 2 yrs, I hv had longer-term RS, the longest is close to 2 yrs. Of course I still do occasional STs if a gal happens to be my type.

Why the change? A long-term exclusive RS w/ a chio gal of my type is more satisfying n leads to greater happiness. There r the added benefits of more intimacy, sexually n emotionally. Last but not least, it's much safer to do her raw.

The following article written by a mentor refers to non-WLs but the basic concept n rational r largely the same.



LOTS OF ONE NIGHT STANDS VS. ONE GREAT WOMAN



Hey Mr. Mentor, how's it going!

Just wanted to say, I checked over your site and I think it's
awesome what you are doing and teaching people! You have inspired
me to start deserving what I want also instead of settling for just
anyone!

I really don't have trouble meeting woman and going on dates,
it's just that I haven't found a lot of quality woman in this
world. I've been in lots of one-night stands with women and
have come to the realization that it doesn't bring happiness.

Only having a true connection with a woman leads to happiness.

My only question to you is how did you know the woman your married
to now was the right one for you? Out of all the women you dated,
how did you know she was the one? How did you know when to stop
dating is the question I'm trying to ask, what if you kept on
dating instead of stopping and met another high quality woman?


Anonymous



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Thanks for your kind words. I really enjoy hearing from people who
are inspired. I appreciate your story and your revelations.

As for one-night-stands, I've never understood it. I've always
thought that if a woman was worth being intimate with once, she
was worth more than that.

Besides, if I really liked her having sex only a single time
would be nothing short of frustrating.

Your "one question" really is a BIG one. Here's the simple answer:

I dated MANY women. And I dated as many of them at once as I
could handle.

As I did, I made very careful notes of what I liked and didn't
like, even going so far as to building a spreadsheet so as to rein
in my typically right-brained approach to "winging it" when it
comes to such things.

As I learned more about women and what they want from a man, and
as I began to DESERVE a great woman more and more, I raised the
proverbial bar as far as the quality of women in my life.

So yes, like I found out first-hand, guys like you and I run the
distinct risk of encountering the enviable problem of having
MORE THAN ONE high quality woman in the picture.

But having CONTROL over one's dating life is key in this situation.

This means making the choices that affect ONE'S OWN life. Being
able to attract and make my own decisions regarding the women in my
life, I placed myself into the position of being able to fine-tune
who it was I was looking for and I recognized her almost instantly.

This meant cutting ties with some great women, but I was also at a
point in my life where I was comfortable with the notion of being
READY for some stability around here.

Importantly, that decision was MY OWN choice--no pressure from
her--based on experience and being in a position of strength rather
than neediness when it came to my interactions with women in my
life.

There's so much more to this, though. Your attitude matters way
more than objective strategy, and certainly more than tips, tricks
and tactics.

You MUST respect and genuinely enjoy female-ness rather than
being sex-focused, which I've talked about quite a bit in this
space lately.

Otherwise, you will get what you deserve--which is MUCH LESS than
what cements a solid long-term future with a great woman. A man
who UNDERSTANDS and ACTUALLY LIKES women realizes the crucial
importance of masculinity and thereby draws women to him.

Women everywhere CRAVE a man who is masculine enough to awaken
their femininity. Get this principle down and begin having the
"enviable" problem cited above.

Now, being the kind of guy we're talking about here is actually not
so hard to pull off. For most guys, it's kind of like a "light
bulb" that goes off after struggling with the concepts for a brief
while.

It's kind of like when you learn how to ride a bike.

That said, winning a downhill mountain bike race, for example,
is a bit more advanced than simply getting rid of the training
wheels, if you get my drift.

How about a woman's perspective on all of this? Just a couple of
nights ago you wouldn't have believed the quality of our waitress
at dinner who announced to us that she was "dateless".

Although she was beginning to doubt herself, the only difference
between her and her friends was that she refused to settle for a
moron.

Good for her. She shouldn't settle for anyone less than who she
deserves any more than you or I should.

My GF and I both agreed that she should take great pride in her
pickiness instead of doubting it and she will begin to see the
men she deserves come looking for her. These men, by the way,
happen to be guys like YOU.

Did I mention that this 21 year old sweetheart with big brown
eyes and a priceless smile was DATELESS?

There ARE NOT ENOUGH great men to go around. Do your part to
change that...and win. It's really that simple.


Be Good,

Mr. Mentor

[MillerV]

bro WB I really like this story!
Only go for the ones that deserves :)

[MoralEpitome]

hmm, don't think I have the budget to rent an entire apartment for her, how about a master bedroom? any reccomendations from the esteem bros here? can get for 1K?

[besafe]

Sorry Bro WB,
I didn't have time to look CD up.
Traveling too frequently nowadays..
Cheers.

[Loving_Dickhead]

hmm, don't think I have the budget to rent an entire apartment for her, how about a master bedroom? any reccomendations from the esteem bros here? can get for 1K?

Peace Centre itself - $1K to $1.3K for Master
Selegie HDB, Opps H81 - $700 to $1K for Master

Hope this helps. :D


Go Geylang rent even cheaper... Got $600/- one.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Now I hang her flowers by cannons and buys her expensive gifts like diamonds.
I never tot I will ask this but how much do you think is reasonable to BY a gal?
No need to ask, your daily cannons and diamonds more than enuff to cover her BY and a half liao :D
You are right on this count, I am fucking my gal raw too and it brings the sex to a new level, but I am not so worried about pregnancy but STD, how can you know for sure she never had a ons with someone else
You mean after you fuck her so many times RAW then you scared of STD and yet you still fucking her RAW wat....wat toking you?
Got ask like nvr ask might as well dun ask knn bo liao
hmm, don't think I have the budget to rent an entire apartment for her, how about a master bedroom? any reccomendations from the esteem bros here? can get for 1K?
You where got no budget, u can one la, u can always rent a penthouse or loft for her la, peanuts to u mah :D
Now I hang her flowers by cannons and buys her expensive gifts like diamonds.
Diamonds and daily cannon, cannot even afford rent?
I mean, u toking simi lanjiao, u take everyone reading as idiots or u tink u damn smart knn
Peace Centre itself - $1K to $1.3K for Master
Selegie HDB, Opps H81 - $700 to $1K for Master

Hope this helps.


Go Geylang rent even cheaper... Got $600/- one.
Dun tok kok LDH, read his post, dun insult him.
Shud refer him to "A" tier properties, this type not suitable for someone who hangs cannons on a daily basis and buys DIAMONDS.
Not I suan him one, he himself DECLARE one hor :D
1 cannon a day assuming it's 500 a pop already 15k per month based on 30days plus buy diamonds wor, note, he used DIAMONDS not diamond, where got cannot afford rent.
You all see him no up la.
ME, go buy a fuck shed and let her stay la, afterall, u did state u qualify for 300K loan mah wahahahaahha :D

[MoralEpitome]

Peace Centre itself - $1K to $1.3K for Master
Selegie HDB, Opps H81 - $700 to $1K for Master

Hope this helps. :D


Go Geylang rent even cheaper... Got $600/- one.

Thanks Bro, thinking about it but now I think no much point unless I wanna move in with her, then no maid to wash my clothes....lol...

[MoralEpitome]

You all see him no up la.
ME, go buy a fuck shed and let her stay la, afterall, u did state u qualify for 300K loan mah wahahahaahha :D

Don't sound so sour grapes and suan ley, afterall you are supposedly the da ge da that upgraded from M6 to GTR :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Thanks Bro, thinking about it but now I think no much point unless I wanna move in with her, then no maid to wash my clothes....lol...
Better not la, one to two cannon gone leh, liao chor wahahahahaha :D

Don't sound so sour grapes and suan ley, afterall you are supposedly the da ge da that upgraded from M6 to GTR :D

Only u can be da ge da da da la, u pop cannon every day & buy diamonds but cannot even afford to rent a place wor, I dun recall anyone I know soooo FLAMBOYANTLY lao kui like u leh :D
Diobo dadage :D

[warbird]

bro WB I really like this story!
Only go for the ones that deserves

Yes!

Sorry Bro WB,
I didn't have time to look CD up.
..........

Hi bro besafe,

I hv not seen her for over 2 years. Some gals age very fast...

Peace Centre itself - $1K to $1.3K for Master
Selegie HDB, Opps H81 - $700 to $1K for Master

Hope this helps.

Go Geylang rent even cheaper... Got $600/- one.

Hi Bro LDH,

For a rich bro like ME, he should go for Master at Sunshine Plaza (2.2K n up), Burlington Square ( 2.2K n up) or City Square (1.8K for junior n 2K n up for regular Master). Perhaps he should get a one bedrm condo, a lot more spacious n a lot more privacy...

No need to ask, your daily cannons and diamonds more than enuff to cover her BY and a half liao :D
You mean after you fuck her so many times RAW then you scared of STD and yet you still fucking her RAW wat....wat toking you?
Got ask like nvr ask might as well dun ask knn bo liao
......................................
Diamonds and daily cannon, cannot even afford rent?.................

Dun tok kok LDH, read his post, dun insult him.
Shud refer him to "A" tier properties, this type not suitable for someone who hangs cannons on a daily basis and buys DIAMONDS.............................
1 cannon a day assuming it's 500 a pop already 15k per month based on 30days plus buy diamonds wor, note, he used DIAMONDS not diamond, where got cannot afford rent...........

................................
Only u can be da ge da da da la, u pop cannon every day & buy diamonds but cannot even afford to rent a place wor, I dun recall anyone I know soooo FLAMBOYANTLY lao kui like u leh :D
Diobo dadage :D

Hi Mr. Chairman,

How is the going? I always enjoy reading ur posts hahaha.

Perhaps Bro ME is eccentric n quirky, like Warren Buffet...he would pop canon daily n buy diamonds for his gals, yet want to save a mere few hundreds a month.

Cheers!

.................................................. .

Good morning!

I made connection w/ a tall n beautiful PRC national UL recently. She is a 19 yo uni student in Chengdu n part-time model. She speaks perfect Mandarin but looks like a 100% Ang mo. She is of Eastern European-Turkic descent. She initially rejected me on account of my advanced age, but is now eager to meet me after SP n after I told her I like to keep 3-4 mistresses n that I like to make love everyday. She looks more like 24 though?!! I also requests that she intro other chio n tall gals to me.

I believe UL was intrigued n became interested cuz I was totally unaffected by her initial rejection n I let her know exactly what I was thinking.

No need to hide your intentions or be manipulative n never be afraid of rejection...this is the essence of Mode One behaviour.

Also, let me quote: "Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for disappointment or frustration."

According to Alan Currie, author of Mode One:

If I've said this once, I've said it a dozen times ....
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
Rejection and/or harsh criticism is not failure, and therefore is not a valid basis for
disappointment or frustration;
See ... I just said it a half-dozen more times.
The problem I see with many on this board is that some of you put "too much" emphasis on
receiving a positive, enthusiastic, and/or reciprocal response from women.
With Mode One Behavior, you can't do that. If you do, you're setting yourself up for frustration
in the future.
When I'm Mode One with women, I really don't concentrate on the potential responses from
women and/or results I achieve. Why? Because for the most part, those factors are out of my
[direct] control.
I only concentrate on these 2-3 things:
1) What is my primary objective with this woman? Why am I talking to her in the first place? Do I
want to potentially date her? Do I just want a one-night stand and/or a weekend fling?
The more you know what you want from a woman, the more specific you can be in your
approach; If your desires at this point are in the "undecided" category, then leave your
approach more 'general'.
2) Now that I know what my objective is for speaking with this woman, how am I going to
express my desires, interests, and intentions to her? Am I going to be bashful? Beat-around-the bush?
Or am I going to express my thoughts in a highly self-assured, bold, upfront and
straightforward manner??

If you're Mode One, the obvious answer is the latter.
3) If this woman decides to harshly criticize me for being so 'forward' and truthful with my
thoughts, am I going to 'back down' and apologize? If she rejects me, am I going to behave in
an angry and/or defensive manner?? Hell no. If she doesn't like my approach, or the manner in
which I express myself ... SO FU**ING WHAT. That's HER problem ... not mine.
Remember this: 99.9% of the time, Rejection is WIN-WIN.
Why?
Because ...
a) if a woman rejects you because you're simply 'not her type', or she is just genuinely not
interested in you .... then that is a 'win' because you didn't waste time or invest money
pursuing a woman's companionship when it wasn't really going to lead to anything productive
or enjoyable;
b) if a woman rejects you, and deep-down, you ARE her type, and she DOES have some degree
of interest in you ... then I would be willing to bet money that at some point in the future ....
either a few minutes after her initial rejection .... a few hours ... a few days .... or even in some
cases, a few weeks and/or months later .... that SAME WOMAN is going to start THINKING
ABOUT YOU and DESIRING YOUR COMPANIONSHIP.
Never take rejection on FACE VALUE.
I've had women harshly criticize me at 10pm only to be sucking my dick at 11:30pm.
I've had women harshly reject me in late December, only to be exchanging orgasms with that
same woman in early-to-mid April of the next year.
Just concentrate on being MODE ONE. If your desires, interests and intentions are reciprocated
immediately .... then that's great. Gold star for you. But in the event that they're not ... don't
allow yourself to come across as 'desperate' or 'impatient.' Both are SEDUCTION KILLERS.

Hope this helps....






I couldn't agree w/ the author more.

Just give u one example (there r many others),

When I 1st met XW in 2008, she didn't even look at me when she talked, refused going to lunch w/ me, deleted my HP no n hung up on me twice...took me 8 1/2 months to bed her...n we were separated twice...

But she is still w/ me n I love to do 69 n fxk her raw hahaha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[MoralEpitome]

Better not la, one to two cannon gone leh, liao chor wahahahahaha :D



Only u can be da ge da da da la, u pop cannon every day & buy diamonds but cannot even afford to rent a place wor, I dun recall anyone I know soooo FLAMBOYANTLY lao kui like u leh :D
Diobo dadage :D

Hahaha you have not lost your sense of humor DaGe, always a good trait of the alpha male

And thanks bro WB for the suggestions, I am thinking of buying a studio to house her but I already got one at CBD and do not want to be over exposed to the property market hence thinking of renting

[warbird]

Hahaha you have not lost your sense of humor DaGe, always a good trait of the alpha male

And thanks bro WB for the suggestions, I am thinking of buying a studio to house her but I already got one at CBD and do not want to be over exposed to the property market hence thinking of renting

Hi Bro ME,

You're welcome.

Buy when everyone else is selling...haha.

Cheers!

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Good morning!

Never be afraid to say no to a girl you like very much, if you think no is the right answer. She may get angry n frustrated, but you must remain cool, calm n collected, as always. Despite her initial negative responses, she will become more attracted to u haha. It builds sexual tension.

Remember: Always be confident n optimistic. She feels what u feel haha.

Let me share w/ u 10 ways to increase sexual tension (written by a guru).

10 Ways To Increase Sexual Tension

Here is a short list of ways to increase sexual tension tactics (as suggested in another report, you want to create a growing list of CORE sexual tension tactics.

You should create a long list (as humanly possible) of different ST Categories that women are responsive to.
The idea is to increase her arousal a little bit, then do something else to increase it some more, then do something to increase it some even more, then do something to increase it some even more….
…until she is FULLY SEXUALLY AROUSED!

You see, for some guys you have to teach them the whole “do something to increase sexual tension — then keep doing more stuff” approach, because too many guys are looking for the ONE MAGIC METHOD to getting a woman turned on all at once…
And it doesn’t work like that!

Here’s an analogy….

For most women, oral sex provides the easiest means for orgasm. And yet, there isn’t ONE MAGIC LICK you could do that would make it so that she cums after “one lick”…

Instead, you have to give her a “sequence of licks” if you want the ORGASMIC tension to build.

It works the same way with building SEXUAL tension. So it’s to your benefit to create a list of ST Tactics and then from there, use a sequence/combination of tactics to get her turned on….

If you decide to create a list of ST Categories, as a tip just think of any possible thing that would lead to some sort of increase in sexual tension.
Here’s a list to start with (fill free to add to it…). As you can see, I didn’t limit it to ‘conversation tactics’ or anything like that…

1)Working Out (looking better, improve, pheromones) – Again, this is proof that my objective was to list every possible thing imaginable that could build tension. So trust me, I’m not trying to insult your intelligence by listing obvious things. With that said, working out builds sexual tension in several ways (looking better, being perceived as someone who cares about his health, being perceived as someone who cares about his appearance, being perceived as someone who cares about improving.) In addition to that, the healthier you are, the sexier you will smell – on a pheromones level.

2)Sexual Matching. This works purely on her ability to detect the pattern – even if she’s not consciously aware of it. If every time she has sex, it’s an incredible/great experience, it’s a tension builder for wanting it more in the future. People like doing things that are fun. People like doing things that feel good. Taking it a step further, if she wants hug-like soft sex and you bang it silly, that’s not sexual matching. Sexual Matching is all about identifying what type of sex she wants at the moment and giving it to her.

3)Touching and Caressing. If you’ve been in a relationship before, then you’ve probably created sexual tension by this method. When done the right way, it’s one of the easiest ways to get a woman turned on. When done the wrong way, it’s one of the easiest ways to get a woman turned off.

4)Fantasizing about sex. Thinking about sexual fantasies. Thinking of past sexual memories. Thinking of future sexual encounters. Thinking of a time when she ‘watched sex’ – either on TV or live.

5)Increasing Metabolism. Doesn’t apply to all women. But in general, the metabolic rate has to do with the speed of internal processes. Most people associate it with ‘losing weight’ (the rate of burning calories). It’s more than that. If you understand the true definition, then you’ll realize that it also has to do with speed of horniness because ‘getting horny’ requires a chain of chemical processes that take place in the body. So simple terms: If you speed up her metabolism, then she’s going to be capable of getting horny faster and more often.

6)Gradual Affection. If you ever cuddled and caressed a woman over a few hours, and all of a sudden she wanted to have sex, then it’s because you slowly increased the sexual tension via gradual affection. It’s not limited to actual touching. It could include gradual compliments (verbal caressing), physical rubbing or a combination of both.

7)On and Off Methods. This is a general and one of the basic forms of creating tension (sexual tension and orgasmic tension) Adding pleasure. Taking it away. Adding more pleasure. Taking it away. The best way to understand this is to NOT look at sex as a series of penis thrusts, but rather a series of ‘putting it in’ (adding pleasure) and taking it away (removing pleasure).

8)Hate/Love Swing. This is the more descriptive version of make up sex – emphasizing the transition (swing) from ‘hate/anger’ to ‘love/happiness’. Although ‘make-up sex’ is a concept for most people, technically there are other ‘swings’ that happen that create tension. It’s an emotional version of an ‘on and off’ method.

9)Dramatic Increase in Sexual Value. This is somewhat of a ‘swing’ technique. Instead of building tension via ‘hate/anger’ to ‘love/happiness’, it’s from going from no value to having value or going from value to lots of value. The interesting thing to realize is when you have ‘no value’ in your relationship, you are essentially ‘not a man’. And with new relationships, the woman is often ‘hyper sexual’ (with little effort) because she’s going from ‘no-man/loneliness’ to ‘having a guy who cares about her’. So, increasing your sexual value (especially, dramatically) has a similar effect of her falling in love for the first time all over again.

10)Eliminating turn offs. The idea is to identify things that turn her off and stop doing them. You can go beyond that by figuring out her personal turn offs. Although, it’s technically not a direct tension builder (in most cases), you should still treat it as such.

Take care,

Mr. Guru

[fallen.angel]

OK promised bro WB to write a “non-event” FR on picking up gals outside KTV which me and my friend tried on Monday night…

Was suppose to go out with K, a KTV gal who sat with me (and frenched me) during one of the sessions with Bro WB, but last minute her customer extended their HH sessions into SH so I was left high and dry with my friend…

We were roaming Keong Siak Street but no pubs were interesting enough for us to spend our money… the only highlight of the night was chatting with 2 ang mohs who were smoking outside the pinoy bar along Keong Siak… they related how they kenna chopped by prostitutes who stole their smartphones, wallets, puke in their bedroom, paid $700 for nothing, etc… basically, “things that will only happen to us ang mohs” as they put it…

Anyways, when the clock strike 12 midnight… we drove to Havelock Road to try to pick up gals again (read my post on our first adventure a few weeks back)…

It was a non-event as it was a holiday eve and the carpark was full – meaning the rooms upstairs must be full and all the gals were booked and busy… saw 2 interesting and sexy gals leaving but as we approach them, heard them yabbing away in viet so called off our strike mid-way… there was a handful of gals who left but they really couldn’t make it and not worth our try – they must be rejects leaving for the night…

The 2 of us ended up having supper at 天下第一涮 and chatting up the 40 year old waitress from shangdong before heading home… sianz… but we will be back for more…

Separately, the gal in my avatar, KX, who is now working in Jakarta wechat me on Monday that she is 2 months pregnant with twins, with a Taiwanese guy she met at her workplace in JKT after getting together for 2 months … despite all my warnings about this guy (though I’ve never met him, but I can sense that he’s damn good a player/cheater) she fell for him… well, too bad she didn’t heed my advice. she wants to keep the babies but needless to say, the guy, who is single and eligible, told her to abort them as he has some financial problems with his company… he will not provide for her during her pregnancy when she will not be able to work. Separately, one of her jie mei will be getting married becos she is also pregnant… I wonder why young gals nowadays don’t practice safe sex… I wouldn’t want my gal to be pregnant cos I don’t want to get her pregnant but at the same time, I’m not for abortion, so I try to be “responsible”, however weird and satirical that may sound...

[chenzong]

I wouldn’t want my gal to be pregnant cos I don’t want to get her pregnant but at the same time, I’m not for abortion, so I try to be “responsible”, however weird and satirical that may sound...

You are not weird. You are being responsible.

[fallen.angel]

You are not weird. You are being responsible.

Thanks bro chenzong…

Btw, I feel the need to clarify… when I said “responsible”, I don’t mean to say that bros who fxxk their gals raw are being irresponsible… as long as you have taken the necessary precautionary steps and also have proper birth control… fxxking them raw is shiok but becos my gal just want to have my babies so I rather not do it raw…

[PastApex]

It seems tat these PRC gals wld try their means to hv babies so tat they can lock their catch. My GF oso try to do tat but I insist on CD to avoid any linkage after breakup.

[warbird]

OK promised bro WB to write a “non-event” FR on picking up gals outside KTV which me and my friend tried on Monday night…...........................
Separately, the gal in my avatar, KX, who is now working in Jakarta wechat me on Monday that she is 2 months pregnant with twins, with a Taiwanese guy she met at her workplace in JKT after getting together for 2 months …........................I wonder why young gals nowadays don’t practice safe sex… I wouldn’t want my gal to be pregnant cos I don’t want to get her pregnant but at the same time, I’m not for abortion, so I try to be “responsible”, however weird and satirical that may sound...

Hi Bro FA,

Ths for sharing.

You are not weird. You are being responsible.

Yes, he is a responsible person.

Thanks bro chenzong…

Btw, I feel the need to clarify… when I said “responsible”, I don’t mean to say that bros who fxxk their gals raw are being irresponsible… as long as you have taken the necessary precautionary steps and also have proper birth control… fxxking them raw is shiok but becos my gal just want to have my babies so I rather not do it raw…

Use precautions bro.

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Good morning!

Going overseas, will be back to SG in 5 wks.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[fallen.angel]

Last week, went to a new play house at Clarke Quay… the PRC dancers there were so playful! Buy them ladies drinks and then grope and grope and grope like no tomorrow… got one dancer’s wechat so let’s see if got time to do follow up…

[Grassland19744]

I heard play house need min 2k spending! You mean can touch the girl inside playhouse?

[fallen.angel]

I heard play house need min 2k spending! You mean can touch the girl inside playhouse?

I think so… I was with a very generous host… there were 8 of us and he opened 5 whiskeys, 1 vodka, and a double magnum sized Champagne… ladies’ drinks is $60, $150 and $250… those we paid for it ourselves after being “coerced” by the gals (to help them meet their monthly quota of $8,000, which they get 40% of, otherwise deduct from their pay)…

the dancers were from China, and then there were also some Singapore gals trying to prowl/scavenge for drinks (or whatever) late into the night, there were 3 of them who came over to sit with us but basically they cannot make it although they claim to be models… maybe they were not as fun…

as for touching… I had my 2 hands squeezing the D-cuppers of my 大连 dancer on the sofa until the manageress came to lead her away… it was fun but I was a bit tipsy from all the drinking…

[deadcalmer]

This has been a most enlightening thread. Really learnt a lot from the many shifu esp bro Warbird. Just thought I had share an interesting thing that happened to me recently.

Was bored and fooling around with Wechat about three weeks ago. Saw a classy looking lady and dropped her a message. Replied and we started chatting. Her name is WW and I Found out she was working in Lido Palace. We messaged each other on a daily basis. I did a lot of teasing and joking around, and she also shared with me things about herself and her family, etc.

We arranged to meet up on a Saturday night to go out. First time seeing her was a little nervous but once we met, there was no uneasiness and it was as if we had known each other for a long time. She was a little meaty but her boobs were amazing and she had a really nice classy face which I really like. Brought her to eat at a Chinese restaurant and then went to drink at a pub.

I had one and half bottles of whisky left in the pub and we drank through the night. She can drink really well. She started getting quite touchy with me and I was the one who played it cool. One trick that I did was to move really close to her face and then just stare at her lips. Then I pulled back. This technique really worked cause on the third time I did it, she pouted her lips, and I went in for a peck on the lips. Subsequently, she started frenching me.

Her friends who were working, then joined us and I got a few bros to join me as well. We proceeded to another location which is a Thai Disco. By then, we were all pretty high. She started hugging me and even told me she wanted to go to my place. But she emphasized that it's just to sleep and not to do anything. (ya right!)

I flat out rejected by telling her that it's too fast, and I said I worry I can't control myself. We left it at that and I sent her back. We took a taxi back and I was waiting for her to ask me for money but she didn't! I was quite curious to see what game she is trying to play.

The next few days we continued texting and messaging each other. Pretty much the same. I continued to tease her and joke around and not treat her too seriously. To the point that she actually remarked that I don't care about her and just treat her like one of the boys. To which I replied "I treat you like one of the boys and also like a pretty babe. Thats the ultimate (in mandarin of course)".

We arranged to go out again on the public holiday. Not much clients at LIDO Palance on a public hol so she brought along three other of her friends. So it was one guy and four girls at the pub. A lot of social proof. I jioed one of my buddies to come down and he brought along two of his guy friends.

One of my ex- FB was also in the pub and she came over to join me. She's a pretty hot malaysian girl and she's right now my perfect wingman. The moment she came over, I could sense WW was uneasy even though she tried to be friendly. She was definitely jealous and started asking me who my malaysian friend was and other bo liao questions about her.

I wanted to F this WW very much but at the same time, I really wanted to know what game she is playing. So I looned and didn't suggest anything. After the partying, we went for supper and I sent her back. Again, she didn't mention anything about money.

The next day, she choot pattern already. I mentioned before about going on a trip together. So she told me to give her 6K and she would be with me for the whole month and also go on the trip with me. Again, I flatly rejected her telling her that I am not interested in this arrangement as I am not the type to BY girls. I also told her that I treated her as a friend and I would never pay money for a friend to go out with me. I told her she is more than welcome to go with any guy if she managed to secure a BY from him.

I basically cooled off after that and was ready to break contact with her. But she still carried on initiating contact with me. The last week I was very busy with work and she actually asked me to go out three times and all three times I couldn't make it, citing work which is actually the truth.

Yesterday after work, she got a bit tipsy and started texting me, getting quite emotional. The crux of her messages was that she also needed someone to share with her happiness, and sadness. And she didn't need someone to give her a lot of money, but she needed someone to give her emotional support. I didn't fall into her game but instead joked about it. I applied some push pull technique, complimented her, but at the same time teased her even more.

A moment ago, she just knocked off from work and texted me that she wanted to meet me to go drinking again. She said she missed me, etc. I didn't reply and she texted me like 4 messages, the last one which is "You don't have to pay for drinks. I will pay for it."!!!!!! That is pretty amazing. I still haven't replied her as i have no intention of going out tonight (lack of sleep from last night working).

I am really wondering what game this girl is playing. Any esteemed bros care to comment or advise?

Update:
She sent another message to jokingly suggest that If I don't reply her she would go and "find duck".... hahahaha :D


Deadcalm.

[justl00king]

Bro,

No need to think too much, will just complicate matters.

If me, I would have banged her hard that first night out and just treat it as one night stand. :D

She need a friend, a driver and someone with $power. :p

[warbird]

Last week, went to a new play house at Clarke Quay… the PRC dancers there were so playful! Buy them ladies drinks and then grope and grope and grope like no tomorrow… got one dancer’s wechat so let’s see if got time to do follow up…
I heard play house need min 2k spending! You mean can touch the girl inside playhouse?
I think so… I was with a very generous host…......................
as for touching… I had my 2 hands squeezing the D-cuppers of my 大连 dancer on the sofa until the manageress came to lead her away… it was fun but I was a bit tipsy from all the drinking…

Hi bros,

Very expensive! 2K per pax? How young, pretty n sexy r these PRC dancers? I hv been to a few n I'm most unimpressed...

This has been a most enlightening thread.............................

Was bored and fooling around with Wechat about three weeks ago. Saw a classy looking lady and dropped her a message. Replied and we started chatting. Her name is WW and I Found out she was working in Lido Palace. We messaged each other on a daily basis. I did a lot of teasing and joking around, and she also shared with me things about herself and her family, etc.

We arranged to meet up on a Saturday night to go out...........................

I wanted to F this WW very much but at the same time, I really wanted to know what game she is playing. So I looned and didn't suggest anything. After the partying, we went for supper and I sent her back. Again, she didn't mention anything about money.

The next day, she choot pattern already. I mentioned before about going on a trip together. So she told me to give her 6K and she would be with me for the whole month and also go on the trip with me. Again, I flatly rejected her telling her that I am not interested in this arrangement as I am not the type to BY girls. I also told her that I treated her as a friend and I would never pay money for a friend to go out with me. I told her she is more than welcome to go with any guy if she managed to secure a BY from him.

I basically cooled off after that and was ready to break contact with her. But she still carried on initiating contact with me. The last week I was very busy with work and she actually asked me to go out three times and all three times I couldn't make it, citing work which is actually the truth.

Yesterday after work, she got a bit tipsy and started texting me, getting quite emotional. The crux of her messages was that she also needed someone to share with her happiness, and sadness. And she didn't need someone to give her a lot of money, but she needed someone to give her emotional support................

A moment ago, she just knocked off from work and texted me that she wanted to meet me to go drinking again. She said she missed me, etc. I didn't reply and she texted me like 4 messages, the last one which is "You don't have to pay for drinks. I will pay for it."!!!!!! That is pretty amazing. I still haven't replied her as i have no intention of going out tonight (lack of sleep from last night working).

I am really wondering what game this girl is playing. Any esteemed bros care to comment or advise? ........................

Hi bro deadcalmer,

Thanks so much for ur detailed FR.

She is a WL n she is here for money. However, as a woman in a foreign country, she needs emotional connection n support. It's very likely that she has made enuff money working at high end KTVs n that she does ST (you can verify this by doing some investigation).

Kudos bro. You hv made all the right moves...by not paying her a penny, by not fxking her right away n by being very stingy w/ ur time. You hv demonstrated that u hv more sexual value than she. Your behaviour has created massive attraction n sets u apart from her customers/friends.

Only time will tell if she is playing game w/ u n whether she has an ulterior motive. It really doesn't matter what she is up to, as long as u continue to play it cool. You must make love to her very soon to establish a sexual RS, foc of course. Here is a warning though. Don't forget to practice safe sex. And never, ever get KC-ed.

On the other hand, you're spending quite a lot of time w/ this WL. It makes sense only if she is exceptionally pretty n sexy n totally ur type of pussy n has other attractive character traits, otherwise u should just fxk her, as suggested by bro justl00king below.

Just my 2 cents.

Other more experienced bros may hv a very different take on this.

Good luck,

Bro WB

Bro,

No need to think too much, will just complicate matters.

If me, I would have banged her hard that first night out and just treat it as one night stand.

She need a friend, a driver and someone with $power.

Hi bro justl00king,

A great alternative approach which I personally like...

If her pussy turns out to be very pretty, tight n wet, bro deadcalmer should continue the RS foc IMHO, haha...

Ths,

Bro WB

[deadcalmer]

Hi bros,

Hi bro deadcalmer,

Thanks so much for ur detailed FR.

She is a WL n she is here for money. However, as a woman in a foreign country, she needs emotional connection n support. It's very likely that she has made enuff money working at high end KTVs n that she does ST (you can verify this by doing some investigation).

Kudos bro. You hv made all the right moves...by not paying her a penny, by not fxking her right away n by being very stingy w/ ur time. You hv demonstrated that u hv more sexual value than she. Your behaviour has created massive attraction n sets u apart from her customers/friends.

Only time will tell if she is playing game w/ u n whether she has an ulterior motive. It really doesn't matter what she is up to, as long as u continue to play it cool. You must make love to her very soon to establish a sexual RS, foc of course. Here is a warning though. Don't forget to practice safe sex. And never, ever get KC-ed.

On the other hand, you're spending quite a lot of time w/ this WL. It makes sense only if she is exceptionally pretty n sexy n totally ur type of pussy n has other attractive character traits, otherwise u should just fxk her, as suggested by bro justl00king below.

Just my 2 cents.

Other more experienced bros may hv a very different take on this.

Good luck,

Bro WB



Hi bro justl00king,

A great alternative approach which I personally like...

If her pussy turns out to be very pretty, tight n wet, bro deadcalmer should continue the RS foc IMHO, haha...

Ths,

Bro WB

Thanks for the advice Bro Warbird. It's a great pleasure to see your reply. Have been reading a lot of your interesting stories and anecdotes.

Actually I haven't spent that much time on this girl yet ... have met her twice and mainly texted on wechat. But I will be mindful not to be KCed. Yes I will make my move on my next meeting with her probably tomorrow or over the weekend.

Cheers!

deadcalmer

[deadcalmer]

Bro,

No need to think too much, will just complicate matters.

If me, I would have banged her hard that first night out and just treat it as one night stand. :D

She need a friend, a driver and someone with $power. :p

Will bear that in mind ... haha ... thanks!:)

[deathnitez]

Hi all just like to share my story.

I am not sure i am being kced or not but after having 1 night with her other girls I had with seem sub par in bed. We still keep in contact thru whatsapp talking about everything for about 6 months. She knows I am married and I know she is attached but we still contact as friends.

Then next week i will be going for business trip and it happens she is still at her country. She was suppose to head back to sg this week but she waited for me as i told her i will be visiting her country for business. She start to say things that makes me feel even weirder about if i am still single she will bring me to her parents. followed by she want to introduce her friends to me and have a house party. Sorry as my story too long i gonna write 2 post.

[deathnitez]

continue.....

Anyway since i will be there for a week i ask her bring me around and she say okay. Then suddenly when the date for my business trip got closer she message me "sorry and hope you don't think so much but how much you going to pay me. Pls dont get angry cause i need pay for my rent in here and sg last one month i no work at home do thing. I want to stay friend with you so 1000 sgd okay? I dont want last min ask you for money we no more become friend." Then i was like wtf?!?! Now i am still pondering whether to pay her or not.

I discuss with my buddies some say 1000sgd only go lah money easy earn back since she is hot "my friends seen her b4" then some say 1000sgd i can fuck with many different girls leh. So now i am in delimma pay or not pay. Any advice is good since this will be the first time i getting an escort. Sorry in advance for the bad english.

[woody17]

SGD1000 is reasonable if the MM is 'hot'

[newbieboy]

If you're married transactional is good I suppose. If she wants money treat her as meat, not friend. Friends don't ask me to pay for company. When I go to major cities in China, lodging and fucking is free. All I'm ever asked to get is something from DFS, or nothing at all. Those then real friends. 1000 for a week for a hot chick is quite cheap, assuming you want to spend a week with one chick instead of going out to find fresh meat. Negotiate for payment upon departure so any time you can cut loss and pro rate payment if you wish.

[deathnitez]

Thanks for the advice, yeah I guess she is 'hot' as she is known to be the 'red card' of the KTV. She seat with ppl 200sgd and still butterfly....my friend still pay for it but I pay her only 50sgd and she seat with me longer. Of course i never tell my friend about it.'Evil'

Looks and Figure very similiar to Zhu Ying if i didn't remember the actoress name wrongly and maybe her "there" abit bigger. Hope i don't lose focus when i am there with her lol. Hope my 1000sgd or lesser is put to good use too :D. thanks again for the advices been a great help.

[justl00king]

1K for a hot mm is really cheap.

I would give her without second thoughts so no strings attached. It's those who doesn't want money I more worried. :p

Just have a great time and but remember not to get KCed!

[MoralEpitome]

Hi Guys, check with you if it is possible to get married, i.e. ROM with a girl on WP Singer's pass?

[ronin_dark]

hmmmmmmmmmm:)

[warbird]

Thanks for the advice Bro Warbird. It's a great pleasure to see your reply. Have been reading a lot of your interesting stories and anecdotes.

Actually I haven't spent that much time on this girl yet ... have met her twice and mainly texted on wechat. But I will be mindful not to be KCed. Yes I will make my move on my next meeting with her probably tomorrow or over the weekend.

Cheers!

deadcalmer

Hi bro deadcalmer,

You're most welcome!

Could u give us an update on this particular girl?

Cheers!

Hi all just like to share my story.

I am not sure i am being kced or not but after having 1 night with her other girls I had with seem sub par in bed............................. if i am still single she will bring me to her parents. followed by she want to introduce her friends to me and have a house party. Sorry as my story too long i gonna write 2 post.

continue.....
.............................. Then suddenly when the date for my business trip got closer she message me "sorry and hope you don't think so much but how much you going to pay me. Pls dont get angry cause i need pay for my rent in here and sg last one month i no work at home do thing. I want to stay friend with you so 1000 sgd okay? I dont want last min ask you for money we no more become friend." Then i was like wtf?!?! Now i am still pondering whether to pay her or not.

I discuss with my buddies some say 1000sgd only go lah money easy earn back since she is hot "my friends seen her b4" then some say 1000sgd i can fuck with many different girls leh. So now i am in delimma pay or not pay. Any advice is good since this will be the first time i getting an escort. Sorry in advance for the bad english.

Hi bro deathnitz,

She is a whore. Only u can decide whether u want to pay her or not.

SGD 1k for fxking an attractive gal for the whole wk is reasonable if you're going to PRC.

Good luck,

Bro WB

SGD1000 is reasonable if the MM is 'hot'

I agree, bro.

If you're married transactional is good I suppose. If she wants money treat her as meat, not friend. Friends don't ask me to pay for company. When I go to major cities in China, lodging and fucking is free. All I'm ever asked to get is something from DFS, or nothing at all. Those then real friends. 1000 for a week for a hot chick is quite cheap, assuming you want to spend a week with one chick instead of going out to find fresh meat. Negotiate for payment upon departure so any time you can cut loss and pro rate payment if you wish.

Hi bro newbieboy,

Lodging n fxking r free? You must have mastered the secrets of attraction haha.

Pls post ur FRs n give us some pointers on ur methods n strategies.

Ths,

Bro WB

Thanks for the advice, yeah I guess she is 'hot' as she is known to be the 'red card' of the KTV. She seat with ppl 200sgd and still butterfly....my friend still pay for it but I pay her only 50sgd and she seat with me longer. Of course i never tell my friend about it..........................................

Looks and Figure very similiar to Zhu Ying if i didn't remember the actoress name wrongly and maybe her "there" abit bigger.........................

Hi bro,

Even though she is a whore, she is obviously attracted to u. You must be a natural.

1K for a hot mm is really cheap.

I would give her without second thoughts so no strings attached. It's those who doesn't want money I more worried. :p

Just have a great time and but remember not to get KCed!

Ths for ur post, bro.

Hi Guys, check with you if it is possible to get married, i.e. ROM with a girl on WP Singer's pass?

Why not?

hmmmmmmmmmm:)

Hahaha...

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Good morning!

I'm back in Gotham City.

I now believe any man, regardless of his prior experience n success w/ women, can still lose his composure n his confidence when he is strongly attracted to an exceptionally attractive woman/girl. He will behave differently n act like a pathetic 'nice guy.'

I hv alluded to TH as my 'best find' in recent yrs. When I bumped into her outside the lift on 5th fl at TAM complex almost 3 months ago, I was stunned by her attractiveness n youthfulness. More attractive than my lao po n EN, or so I thought at the time. She had a near perfect figure n I momentarily lost my confidence...n actually believed she was out of my league n would never let me ST or BY her. Yes, I forgot all my lessons n violated my own principles. I became timid n hesitant n never got sexual w/ her that night.

I went home feeling dejected. Fortunately, I quickly bounced back, changed my mindset n regained my self mastery over the next 24 hrs...to make a long story short, I fxked her the 2nd time we met! It was a wonderful experience. And since then I hv been fxking her whenever I want to haha.

The secret? A man is very attractive because he is very confident. PERIOD.

I last met TH 2 days before going overseas. Unfortunately, she is now much less attractive as she has put on about 3 kg since we 1st met. And I thought she was too good for me just 3 months ago?!!

To be attractive to a chio SYT, a man must play hard to get. But not so hard as to be out of reach n push her too far away. Additionally, he must like her a bit less than she likes him. Never upset that delicate balance n she will be his forever. If at anytime he begins to like /love her much more than she likes/loves him, he will lose her, eventually. It's ineluctable.

I recently made connection w/ a very pretty n cute Teochew-speaking gal SY in PRC. She is 18 n has never been BY-ed n we have yet to discuss the terms, but I'm certain she will come to SG to be my mistress. After her initial resistance, I hv turned the table n she is chasing me...

SY has not slept well for the last 2 months cuz her 26 yo BF broke off w/ her recently n is going to marry another gal. She has been sending text n voice msg to me around the clock! This young man is her 1st n only BF ever. She fell in love w/ him a yr ago when he n his fren came to her rescue when she was harassed by a group of boys. BTW, she has never experienced orgasm w/ her BF. I believe she is very lucky as I'll give her pleasure beyond her widest dreams haha.

Another lesson for me: Emotional addiction is stronger than sexual addiction.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[deathnitez]

Morning ppl,

Thanks WB. Not sure if i am natural i believe i still got a lot to learn.:D

Is there any reason of this girls crying? I am those quiet type of guy when going KTV but damn choosy with girls until sometimes Mame ask me to just choose them lol :P. But my hit rate seems quite high.

Just last week i was out with my friends for another session. I just seat with a girl with really beautiful eyes "my weakness". The things I talk about is how are you where you from then i will pick a song and ask her for a dance. Then as we dance she starts to cry...then she whisper to me "you are nice guy"?? i was thinking "huh"?? the next moment she ask me for my number and we have been talking ever since.

It happens to me for a few times already sometimes i am thinking is this part of their tactic to hitch guys or they feel quiet guys good to cheat money from just curious?? Anyway i got not much money to cheat and I don't own a car."color blind cannot drive....:("

[newbieboy]

as my nick suggests, I'm a newbie, but your following passage holds very true:

"To be attractive to a chio SYT, a man must play hard to get. But not so hard as to be out of reach n push her too far away. Additionally, he must like her a bit less than she likes him. Never upset that delicate balance n she will be his forever. If at anytime he begins to like /love her much more than she likes/loves him, he will lose her, eventually. It's ineluctable."

Then again I will venture to raise the validity of above statement to all women you're attracted to, since I prefer MILFs to SYTs :D

A few constants in every relationship: know your weaknesses, play to your strengths. Understand the counterparty. Most importantly, make them laugh, keep them happy, they will soon realize what's more important than money. Of course I say this because all of them have other people pumping petrol. My advantages are the following:

1) because of my youth I play the character of a poor, young upstart which is believable and acceptable to them. I'm not rich but I'm better off than they realize :D
2) I drop subtle hints of my glorious track record (which feeds itself as the experiences grow). This works the same way women are attracted to married men: endorsement.
3) I speak to them evenly, never jumping to generalizations and sweeping statements, which accommodate their dignity and self respect issues
4) I don't force them to spend time with me by way of cash. In my experience this is by far the worst thing to do.
5) I am not alpha, and am in no hurry to add to the pool. 随遇而安. Women hate nonchalance.

Of course every strength can turn into a weakness, it all depends on what the woman in question is looking for and prefers. The most important thing is to learn to switch my modes when facing different profiles. Some people say this is not being true to yourself, but 1) I have done worse things to get a pussy 2) we have different sides to ourselves.

My hit rate is not high and I'm still learning. But I have been told many occasions that I'd make a good gigolo, which I take as a compliment. Maybe time for career switch! :D

[chenzong]

My hit rate is not high and I'm still learning. But I have been told many occasions that I'd make a good gigolo, which I take as a compliment. Maybe time for career switch! :D

Once it becomes a career and work, what you like now is likely to lose its sheen and lustre, and become something unexciting and routine.

[newbieboy]

Once it becomes a career and work, what you like now is likely to lose its sheen and lustre, and become something unexciting and routine.

In jest lah... Hehe. KTV girls do bring some color to life, all the long hours at work make it hard to have a "normal" relationship with "normal" girls but the night girls are so interesting I have no regrets :D

[warbird]

Thanks WB. Not sure if i am natural i believe i still got a lot to learn...

Is there any reason of this girls crying? I am those quiet type of guy when going KTV but damn choosy with girls until sometimes Mame ask me to just choose them lol :P. But my hit rate seems quite high.

Just last week i was out with my friends for another session. I just seat with a girl with really beautiful eyes "my weakness". The things I talk about is how are you where you from then i will pick a song and ask her for a dance. Then as we dance she starts to cry...then she whisper to me "you are nice guy"?? i was thinking "huh"?? the next moment she ask me for my number and we have been talking ever since.....................


Hi bro deathnitz,

You're too modest. Either their acting is very good or you're a master in triggering their strong emotions haha. Either way, their pussies r yours...

Updates will be appreciated.

as my nick suggests, I'm a newbie, but your following passage holds very true:

"To be attractive to a chio SYT, a man must play hard to get. But not so hard as to be out of reach n push her too far away. Additionally, he must like her a bit less than she likes him. Never upset that delicate balance n she will be his forever. If at anytime he begins to like /love her much more than she likes/loves him, he will lose her, eventually. It's ineluctable."

Then again I will venture to raise the validity of above statement to all women you're attracted to, since I prefer MILFs to SYTs :D

A few constants in every relationship: know your weaknesses, play to your strengths. Understand the counterparty. Most importantly, make them laugh, keep them happy, they will soon realize what's more important than money. Of course I say this because all of them have other people pumping petrol. My advantages are the following:

1) because of my youth I play the character of a poor, young upstart which is believable and acceptable to them. I'm not rich but I'm better off than they realize .................................

Of course every strength can turn into a weakness, it all depends on what the woman in question is looking for and prefers. The most important thing is to learn to switch my modes when facing different profiles. Some people say this is not being true to yourself, but 1) I have done worse things to get a pussy 2) we have different sides to ourselves.

My hit rate is not high and I'm still learning. But I have been told many occasions that I'd make a good gigolo, which I take as a compliment. Maybe time for career switch! :D

Hi bro newbieboy,

Ths so much for sharing your methods...

I believe my dictum on RS balance applies to women of all ages and regardless of whether you hv known her for 30 minutes or 30 yrs hahaha.

Yes, you could be a very good gigolo. But you're far too good n far too superior to be one.

You will be a high status dominant male in a few yrs...

Cheers!

Once it becomes a career and work, what you like now is likely to lose its sheen and lustre, and become something unexciting and routine.

Work is never fun, unless you're your own boss.

In jest lah... Hehe. KTV girls do bring some color to life, all the long hours at work make it hard to have a "normal" relationship with "normal" girls but the night girls are so interesting I have no regrets :

Not just KTV gals, any chio gals/women of my type r interesting to me hahaha.

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Good morning!

I come across something abt masculine confidence which I like to share.

You know how you really like it when women act all girlish
and feminine?

Well, it turns out that they feel the same way about YOU
being manly and masculine.

Here are a few of things that you should be doing to trigger
her sexually feminine emotions by displaying MASCULINE
CONFIDENCE:

1. Be direct and unapologetic for your desires. Don’t be
afraid to talk about them or tell her what you want… and
don’t be afraid or tentative about acting on them.

2. Take pleasure from looking at her body without shame or
embarrassment. Don’t look away or pretend you are not
looking at her. Drink her in.

3. Touch her the same way. Put your hands on her with the
same confidence that you would handle an instrument or
tool that you are very skilled, familiar, and proficient
with. Let her feel how much you enjoy handling her.

I know I’ll take some flack for this from feminists that
think that I’m objectifying a woman by comparing her to a
tool, but the fact is, women love it when you handle them
with familiarity and comfort and easy confidence…and they don’t like it when you touch them like you are afraid
of them, like they are mom’s fine crystal bowl.

4. Be 100% positive about HER sexuality and the things she
desires, the things she says, the things she does. You
should never be surprised or negative about anything
regarding her sexuality. That is a massive sign of
insecurity. The rule is “positive reinforcement only.” Let
her know immediately when she does things you like
sexually, and never mention the things that you don’t
like.

Over time, she will only do the things that you positively
reinforce.

5. Be 100% positive about YOUR OWN sexuality. Know
exactly what you are doing in the bedroom. Learn
enough about female sexual response that you can be
confident that you know exactly how to give her an
orgasm and be comfortable with doing it.
If you have any insecurities about your own performance
(problems getting hard or ejaculating too soon when you
are nervous), then deal with those issues in your life
immediately.

6. Never be needy. Never make a woman feel that your
sexual validation or ego is at stake in the bedroom.
Getting her to open up to you sexually should not be
something you NEED for you to feel good about yourself
and your sexuality.

If your ego is at stake… if you need her to agreement to
sex when you initiate to protect your “male ego”… not
only will she sense that emotion (and be put off by that
kind of pressure), but also, that kind of stress is bad for more than just your sex life. It’s bad for the relationship
itself.

Remember that your mood will affect her mood. Emotions
are contagious—and that goes double for women.
If you are tentative, shy, embarrassed, ashamed, or nervous
when it comes to sex and your ability to perform, she will feel those
same emotions about HER desires. If she was previously feeling
sexual towards you, you could actually rob her of that feeling and
make her begin to feel shame or embarrassment about herself.
And then, of course, she’ll shut off.

If, on the other hand, you are calm, confident, and assured
in your own sexuality, that emotion will also be contagious…

Not only will she be feeling attraction to you because of your
sexual confident manner, but also she will feel those emotions
about her own desires and her own body. She’ll feel open and
positive about her sexuality. And she’ll be excited to share it with
YOU.

[deathnitez]

Thanks Bro WB yeah i am definately still learning,

but this 1k trip with her gives me a lot of insight. She cried again a few times in the bed told me a lot of things which comes in as a shock to me not sure is it a shock to you guys.

Her real name is totally different from her 1st and 2nd name as she show me her ID even her age is different by a lot then what she told me initially. Her make up skill is damn good. And the number of sugar daddies she has is nuts... all of her houses are bought by her sugar daddies. I told her i am not rich definately cannot afford such crap.... She say is okay..... And then she told me a lot about her family from show me photo of her with her relatives in the kampong to many stories and having parties with her friends.... Oh anyway i stay at her place for a few nights :D...

Then when i was about to leave she told me the next time if I come she really just want to be "friends" with me when she retires.... I told her i will visit her every year and will always treat her as a friend :D.... a peck and a very nice hug but sad this so called "love" will never come to a beautiful ending unless i divorce but i don't think i will. Gfe is really scary.....but i feel knowing this ppl in a way enlighten me.... in a way....

[asdfghjkl]

wow.. nice read this evening! ;)

[deathnitez]

Now waiting for my transport to airport for bz trip so abit bo liao just write abit more detail regarding the trip.... she actually got like 5 houses in the span of 2 yrs working in the KTV from suitors including 3 Cars, 2 shops she basically drove me around in her car to her houses and it is definately well furnish.... and regarding the car, as i am an idiot in cars i don't know the model cum brand of cars...

Then one night on her bed she told me she usually don't share such secrets to any guy "not sure is true anot lah". Then she starts to tear....and keep looking into my eyes...."how i wish you are not married"....I was like wow?!?!

Then on we had a house party with her friends, the headcount goes 12 girls and 1 guy which is only me. All her friends from KTV from different parts of the world... some are from SG i don't recognise them but they are hot in their way but not my type.... We dance and had ahem... but being a nice guest the ingredients and booze are sponsered by me but they do the cooking :cool:. But her friend is "too good" knowing she is interested in me they don't dare come too close to me only left me and her to enjoy our time. I guess is what they call friend zone??

Overall is a damn good experience theres is more next time i will share as my transport is here. Hope this is not consider stealing the thread if so pls delete it if needed. See you guys in a weeks time.....good bonking week :p

[DO_YOU_BJ]

she actually got like 5 houses in the span of 2 yrs working in the KTV from suitors including 3 Cars, 2 shops she basically drove me around in her car to her houses and it is definately well furnish.... and regarding the car, as i am an idiot in cars i don't know the model cum brand of cars...

Then one night on her bed she told me she usually don't share such secrets to any guy "not sure is true anot lah". Then she starts to tear....and keep looking into my eyes...."how i wish you are not married"....I was like wow?!?!

Then on we had a house party with her friends, the headcount goes 12 girls and 1 guy which is only me. All her friends from KTV from different parts of the world... some are from SG i don't recognise them but they are hot in their way but not my type.... We dance and had ahem... but being a nice guest the ingredients and booze are sponsered by me but they do the cooking :cool:. But her friend is "too good" knowing she is interested in me they don't dare come too close to me only left me and her to enjoy our time. I guess is what they call friend zone??

Overall is a damn good experience theres is more next time i will share as my transport is here. Hope this is not consider stealing the thread if so pls delete it if needed. See you guys in a weeks time.....good bonking week :p

All u hv to do is think, if ur in her shoes, how n wat wud u hv to do to be so successful?
Wat i say, do, think, carry myself etc will make a man give me everything n anything i want!
Once u can tink like this, u saw thru her liao
Women like these r fearless n very sharp, but once they meet someone like tat, they'll be the 1st to run.
Conclusion, wanna be player or playee also u call the shots.

[warbird]

.............but this 1k trip with her gives me a lot of insight. She cried again a few times in the bed told me a lot of things which comes in as a shock to me not sure is it a shock to you guys...........................And the number of sugar daddies she has is nuts... all of her houses are bought by her sugar daddies. I told her i am not rich definately cannot afford such crap.... She say is okay..... And then she told me a lot about her family from show me photo of her with her relatives in the kampong to many stories and having parties with her friends.... Oh anyway i stay at her place for a few nights :D...

Then when i was about to leave she told me the next time if I come she really just want to be "friends" with me when she retires.... I told her i will visit her every year and will always treat her as a frien......................
Now waiting for my transport to airport for bz trip so abit bo liao just write abit more detail regarding the trip.... she actually got like 5 houses in the span of 2 yrs working in the KTV from suitors including 3 Cars, 2 shops she basically drove me around in her car to her houses and it is definately well furnish.... and regarding the car, as i am an idiot in cars i don't know the model cum brand of cars.......................................Then she starts to tear....and keep looking into my eyes...."how i wish you are not married"....I was like wow?!?!

Then on we had a house party with her friends, the headcount goes 12 girls and 1 guy which is only me. All her friends from KTV from different parts of the world... But her friend is "too good" knowing she is interested in me they don't dare come too close to me only left me and her to enjoy our time......................

Hi bro deathnitez,

Ths for ur FR. Quite an exciting adventure and quite a story...hahaha.

Next time don't pay her anything. She may already be emotionally n sexually addicted to u bro.

I'm curious as to where she is from, her age n the no of her patrons, etc. Are her patrons mostly PRC or SG men?

Even if she has really earned (self-proclaimed but not verified) enuff money to buy 5 houses, 2 shops n 3 cars in 2 yrs working at KTVs, why would she want u to know? For what purpose? Maybe she wants to BY u haha.

Cheers!

wow.. nice read this evening! ;)

Yes, very interesting FRs...

All u hv to do is think, if ur in her shoes, how n wat wud u hv to do to be so successful?
Wat i say, do, think, carry myself etc will make a man give me everything n anything i want!
Once u can tink like this, u saw thru her liao
Women like these r fearless n very sharp, but once they meet someone like tat, they'll be the 1st to run.
Conclusion, wanna be player or playee also u call the shots.

Hi Mr. Chairman,

You hv hit the nail on the head!

This type of women r heartless n ruthless...

Cheers!

.................................................. ................

Good day!

Bro Newbieboy alluded to the topic of gigolo. All of us could adopt the positive strategies of a gigolo w/o the negatives.

The following interview w/ a successfully gigolo in Gotham is quite interesting:

Sexual Secrets of a Gigolo

Reporter XX

Jimmy (not his real name) is a professional paid “escort,” a Gigolo....

XX: Welcome Jimmy. Thank you for meeting with me.

Jimmy: It’s my pleasure.

XX: Jimmy, I don’t know how to ask this question tactfully. You use the term “gigolo.” Aren’t you really a male prostitute?

Jimmy: No. Not at all. And don’t worry -- I’m not offended. A prostitute is generally for sex only. Slam bam, you know. A gigolo is, I’m speaking for myself, someone who is very much concerned with giving his client pleasure. Sexual pleasure, yes—but also understanding her as a woman --- her wishes, her desires; what she likes and what she doesn’t.

Her agenda becomes my agenda. I think of myself as someone who represents the best in men in both character and sexual skill. I always conduct myself in a way so that I bring credit to myself and pleasure to my clients.

XX: What makes you good at what you do?

Jimmy: Well, that’s a good question. How much time have you got?

XX: Plenty. Go on –don’t worry.

Jimmy: I think the most important thing is that I am attentive. I pay attention to what the woman I’m with is saying as well as what her body language is saying. I think sometimes the body language is far more honest than the words...

XX: What else?

Jeremy: I compliment her often. I make her feel special. It’s always about her. Never about me. I’m not the kind of guy who struts around drawing the attention. I make sure she gets it.
XX: I don’t know, Jeremy. You look like a pretty spiffy guy.

Jimmy: I believe I should present myself well. I dress nicely – never in jeans, my nails are clean and manicured. I speak softly, but confidently. I’m always a gentlemen, although in the bedroom I am sometimes asked to be otherwise. (We’ll save that for another interview—editor)

XX: Do you have any special tricks you use?

Jimmy: Yes, but I don’t think of them as tricks. It’s more like technique. I spend a lot of time looking at her eyes, rather than her other features...

XX: Do you ever talk dirty too them?

Jimmy: Rarely. Never in conversation, but sometimes in bed, if asked.

XX: Okay Jeremy, since you brought it up, let’s talk about “in bed,” if you don’t mind. What’s your secret?

Jimmy: No secret, really. First, I try to get her to relax and feel real comfortable. I caress her and talk softly. I gently kiss and nibble on all her sensitive places. I ask her to be honest with me and tell me her sexual fantasies. I ask for her sexual wish list, so to speak, and nod approvingly at everything she says. I tell her how sexy she looks and how she really turns me on. You’d be surprised how often I hear that the men they know rarely do this.

I take my time—do everything verrry slowly. I get her to a high level of excitement… I use my tongue….my fingers. I make it unbearable. I urge her to surrender…to let go. I never let go myself until she reaches the absolute height of her sexual experience.

When we are finished I tell her what a great lover she is –the best.

XX: Whew! I’m exhausted. So at the days end you are satisfied with a job well done.

Jimmy: Yes. I think being a gigolo is an honorable profession. The rewards are many ---not just the money.

XX: Thanks Jeremy, for being so open with us. I think I’ve learned a few things.

Jimmy: Thank you, too. May I leave you a few of my cards?

..............................

[Krenjusen]

Interesting giggolo interview :D

Hi bro deathnitez,

Ths for ur FR. Quite an exciting adventure and quite a story...hahaha.

Next time don't pay her anything. She may already be emotionally n sexually addicted to u bro.

I'm curious as to where she is from, her age n the no of her patrons, etc. Are her patrons mostly PRC or SG men?

Even if she has really earned (self-proclaimed but not verified) enuff money to buy 5 houses, 2 shops n 3 cars in 2 yrs working at KTVs, why would she want u to know? For what purpose? Maybe she wants to BY u haha.

Cheers!



Yes, very interesting FRs...



Hi Mr. Chairman,

You hv hit the nail on the head!

This type of women r heartless n ruthless...

Cheers!

.................................................. ................

Good day!

Bro Newbieboy alluded to the topic of gigolo. All of us could adopt the positive strategies of a gigolo w/o the negatives.

The following interview w/ a successfully gigolo in Gotham is quite interesting:

Sexual Secrets of a Gigolo

Reporter XX

Jimmy (not his real name) is a professional paid “escort,” a Gigolo....

XX: Welcome Jimmy. Thank you for meeting with me.

Jimmy: It’s my pleasure.

XX: Jimmy, I don’t know how to ask this question tactfully. You use the term “gigolo.” Aren’t you really a male prostitute?

Jimmy: No. Not at all. And don’t worry -- I’m not offended. A prostitute is generally for sex only. Slam bam, you know. A gigolo is, I’m speaking for myself, someone who is very much concerned with giving his client pleasure. Sexual pleasure, yes—but also understanding her as a woman --- her wishes, her desires; what she likes and what she doesn’t.

Her agenda becomes my agenda. I think of myself as someone who represents the best in men in both character and sexual skill. I always conduct myself in a way so that I bring credit to myself and pleasure to my clients.

XX: What makes you good at what you do?

Jimmy: Well, that’s a good question. How much time have you got?

XX: Plenty. Go on –don’t worry.

Jimmy: I think the most important thing is that I am attentive. I pay attention to what the woman I’m with is saying as well as what her body language is saying. I think sometimes the body language is far more honest than the words...

XX: What else?

Jeremy: I compliment her often. I make her feel special. It’s always about her. Never about me. I’m not the kind of guy who struts around drawing the attention. I make sure she gets it.
XX: I don’t know, Jeremy. You look like a pretty spiffy guy.

Jimmy: I believe I should present myself well. I dress nicely – never in jeans, my nails are clean and manicured. I speak softly, but confidently. I’m always a gentlemen, although in the bedroom I am sometimes asked to be otherwise. (We’ll save that for another interview—editor)

XX: Do you have any special tricks you use?

Jimmy: Yes, but I don’t think of them as tricks. It’s more like technique. I spend a lot of time looking at her eyes, rather than her other features...

XX: Do you ever talk dirty too them?

Jimmy: Rarely. Never in conversation, but sometimes in bed, if asked.

XX: Okay Jeremy, since you brought it up, let’s talk about “in bed,” if you don’t mind. What’s your secret?

Jimmy: No secret, really. First, I try to get her to relax and feel real comfortable. I caress her and talk softly. I gently kiss and nibble on all her sensitive places. I ask her to be honest with me and tell me her sexual fantasies. I ask for her sexual wish list, so to speak, and nod approvingly at everything she says. I tell her how sexy she looks and how she really turns me on. You’d be surprised how often I hear that the men they know rarely do this.

I take my time—do everything verrry slowly. I get her to a high level of excitement… I use my tongue….my fingers. I make it unbearable. I urge her to surrender…to let go. I never let go myself until she reaches the absolute height of her sexual experience.

When we are finished I tell her what a great lover she is –the best.

XX: Whew! I’m exhausted. So at the days end you are satisfied with a job well done.

Jimmy: Yes. I think being a gigolo is an honorable profession. The rewards are many ---not just the money.

XX: Thanks Jeremy, for being so open with us. I think I’ve learned a few things.

Jimmy: Thank you, too. May I leave you a few of my cards?

..............................

[deathnitez]

Hello guys i am back,

LOL WB, sorry as i don't ask her that about her patron info. I give her space whenever she is talking to her other clients and etc when going out with me..... and i don't mind being BY by her :p.

To be honest i am not sure but base on the historys or stories she tells me she seems to go thru a lot of shit and have really bad luck with guys before she turn to be a whore.

And the guys (KTV) just like to pay for her sex and emotions and she just falsefully give it. Guess she is pretty so she can play hard to get and the guys are willing to pay more for her "love" and sex. Anyway for this Bz trip she went out with me for free lol :cool:

To me i am quite firm in term of giving things to girls, in short i am stingy guy lol. On the previous trip, she ask if i will buy a expensive stuff for her i say "I will not promise you that i will get that for you." and she was abit shock, not sure does that make a different cause i believe most guys which so call "go out with her" will buy any things for her??

One thing I have to admit she is really hot, on this trip as I was walking with her shopping having her arm around mine "She seems to hold my arms tighter this time" you can see the increase in number of ppl looking at us. Her make up skill and dressing is superb this time round not sure is she trying to shake me lol. As her ahem is of certain size (c??) is hard not to get distracted with your arm bouncing against it:eek:....Okay i guess i skip this part. But in the end i feel being confidence does help and I will still say no if she ask again about expensive stuff (FIRM). :D

[warbird]

Interesting giggolo interview :D

Yes, quite interesting.

..... and i don't mind being BY by her :p.
..............................

And the guys (KTV) just like to pay for her sex and emotions and she just falsefully give it. Guess she is pretty so she can play hard to get and the guys are willing to pay more for her "love" and sex. Anyway for this Bz trip she went out with me for free lol :cool:

To me i am quite firm in term of giving things to girls, in short i am stingy guy lol. On the previous trip, she ask if i will buy a expensive stuff for her i say "I will not promise you that i will get that for you." and she was abit shock, not sure does that make a different cause i believe most guys which so call "go out with her" will buy any things for her??

One thing I have to admit she is really hot................ But in the end i feel being confidence does help and I will still say no if she ask again about expensive stuff (FIRM).

Dear bro, ths for sharing ur FR.

.................................................. .......

Good afternoon!

It behooves every man to learn the methods of the most successful gigolo. Such a man has profound understanding of what women really want.

I hv mentioned my interest n focus on how to get women addicted. I hv also suggested that emotional addiction is the most powerful of the 3 types of addiction...

Regardless of who you're, even if you're a world famous rock star or a billionaire player or a powerful political leader, you still need to get ur women addicted to u, emotionally, sexually n financially. Why? Otherwise, ur women may fxk other men n give u nasty STDs n HIV. In other words, ur very life depends on ur ability to get them addicted to YOU.

I also want to be very blunt here. It may not be enough to get women addicted only emotionally n sexually to u in a long term RS. If ur woman is extremely attractive n you're struggling to put food on the table, before long, she may leave u...sorry, she is only human.

A word abt emotional addiction. The secret is to make ur woman FEEL amazingly elated n euphoric in ur presence or, better yet, when thinking abt u in ur absence...and make sure she can't FEEL like that w/ anyone else, ever. No amt of money or power can make her feel so good hahaha...

Another recent revelation: Regular Penetrative Vaginal Orgasms (RPVO) r quite different from other types of orgasms: More satisfying, more oxytocin surges and essential for deep bonding n much more addictive. And expert sexologists could tell if a woman has had or has enjoyed RVPO from the way she walks. Using ur finger to give her G or deep spot orgasms r still NOT enuff. There is sound neuro-physiological basis for this. Sadly, only abt 30% of women experince RPVO.

Recently, my long term mistress XW told me that she found RVPO most satisfying, I was skeptical but decided to do some research into the subject. She was 100% correct.

Over a month ago, I made connection w/ a very cute/pretty Teochew-speaking SYT in China. She had just broke off w/ her BF cuz he was going to marry someone else. She had not slept well for over a month. She had never experienced orgasm (not even clitoral) before n yet she loved him. To cut a long story short, I managed to transfer her feelings to me, despite the fact that she was shocked when I told her my age. She now texts me on Wechat around the clock n I only reply occasionally. She confessed that she is in love w/ me. I ask her NOT to come to SG until next yr when she turns 18. BTW, I hv not spent a penny on her.

Wishing All bros a Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year!

Bro WB

[warbird]

Good morning!

“The goddess was discovered by her gait.”

Virgil quotes (Ancient Roman Latin Poet and Author of the epic, Aeneid. 70 BC-19 BC)

Here is the abstract on the history of a woman's PVO n her gait, published in J Sex Med 2008;5:2119–2124:

A Woman’s History of Vaginal Orgasm is Discernible from
Her Walk

Aurelie Nicholas, MA,* Stuart Brody, PhD,† Pascal de Sutter, PhD,* and François de Carufel, PhD‡
*Université Catholique de Louvain, Institut d’études de la famille et de la sexualité, Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgium; †Division
of Psychology, School of Social Sciences, University of the West of Scotland, Paisley, UK; ‡Unité de sexologie
fonctionnelle, Hôpital Braine l’Alleud-Waterloo, Braine-l’Alleud, Belgium
DOI: 10.1111/j.1743-6109.2008.00942.x

A B S T R A C T

Introduction.

Research has demonstrated the association between vaginal orgasm and better mental health. Some
theories of psychotherapy assert a link between muscle blocks and disturbances of both character and sexual function.
In Functional–Sexological therapy, one focus of treatment is amelioration of voluntary movement. The present study
examines the association of general everyday body movement with history of vaginal orgasm.

Aim.

The objective was to determine if appropriately trained sexologists could infer women’s history of vaginal
orgasm from observing only their gait.

Methods.

Women with known histories of either vaginal orgasm or vaginal anorgasmia were videotaped walking on
the street, and their orgasmic status was judged by sexologists blind to their history.

Main Outcome Measure.

The concordance between having had orgasms triggered by penile–vaginal intercourse
(not orgasm from direct clitoral stimulation) and raters’ inferences of vaginal orgasm history based on observation
of the woman’s walk was the main outcome measure.
Results. In the sample of healthy young Belgian women (half of whom were vaginally orgasmic), history of vaginal
orgasm (triggered solely by penile–vaginal intercourse) was diagnosable at far better than chance level (81.25%
correct, Fisher’s Exact Test P < 0.05) by appropriately trained sexologists. Clitoral orgasm history was unrelated to
both ratings and to vaginal orgasm history. Exploratory analyses suggest that greater pelvic and vertebral rotation and
stride length might be characteristic of the gait of women who have experienced vaginal orgasm (r = 0.51, P < 0.05).

Conclusions.

The discerning observer may infer women’s experience of vaginal orgasm from a gait that comprises
fluidity, energy, sensuality, freedom, and absence of both flaccid and locked muscles. Results are discussed with regard
to previous research on gait, the effect of the musculature on sexual function, the special nature of vaginal orgasm,
and implications for sexual therapy. Nicholas A, Brody S, de Sutter P, and de Carufel F. A woman’s history of
vaginal orgasm is discernible from her walk. J Sex Med 2008;5:2119–2124.


KeyWords. Orgasm; Sexual Intercourse; Gait; Psychoanalytic Theory; Functional–Sexological Therapy; Movement

My reflections n personal observations on the subject:

The above scientific study has confirmed my own experiences. Here is another thing: A woman's gait may also change if she stops having regular PVO for as little as a month or so. It's subtle but certainly discernible haha. It pays to observe ur woman's gait very carefully.

I always walk BEHIND my mistresses n see how they swing their hips. I tell them I love their perky n bouncy butt haha. My 25 yo lao po XW is very orgasmic n experiences PVO almost very time. She would leave black n blue marks on my back n upper arms. Her gait is much more fluid, energetic n sensual n w/ wider swing in her hips compared w/ my 19 yo lover EN who has never experienced PVO despite my best efforts.

BTW, when I came back to SG last wk, after spending over a month at Gotham, I immediately noticed that XW's gait is less energetic, less fluid n she swings her hips noticeably much less haha. Of course I wont tell her that.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[werewolves]

Great to see this thread still going strong!

[yunnamhaircare]

Hello guys i am back,

LOL WB, sorry as i don't ask her that about her patron info. I give her space whenever she is talking to her other clients and

And the guys (KTV) just like to pay for her sex and emotions and she just falsefully give it. Guess she is pretty so she can play hard to get and the guys are willing to pay more for her "love" and sex. Anyway for this Bz trip she went out with me for free lol

To me i am quite firm in term of giving things to girls, in short i am stingy guy lol. On the previous trip, she ask if i will buy a expensive stuff for her i say "I will not promise you that i will get that for you." and she was abit shock, not sure does that make a different cause i believe most guys which so call "go out with her" will buy any things for her??

One thing I have to admit she is really hot, on this trip as I was walking with her shopping having her arm around mine "She seems to hold my arms tighter this time" you can see the increase in number of ppl looking at us. Her make up skill and dressing is superb this time round not sure is she trying to shake me lol. As her ahem is of certain size (c??) is hard not to get distracted with your arm bouncing against it....Okay i guess i skip this part. But in the end i feel being confidence does help and I will still say no if she ask again about expensive stuff (FIRM).

Bro, you are one damn good example of how you can still be getting all the gfe and free sex from a hot girl while being stingy. You love family and money more than women. That's why she feel that you are special. :)

You are special to her because:
1) You are down to earth. In her social context, too many men are acting generous and rich to win her heart. They are too common to her.
2) She knows no matter what, she cant win your heart completely because of your commitment to your wife and money. That makes her feel challenging. You feel like something she can never have a firm grip, something that slips out of her hand easily.
3) You have quiet confidence.

[deathnitez]

Bro, you are one damn good example of how you can still be getting all the gfe and free sex from a hot girl while being stingy. You love family and money more than women. That's why she feel that you are special. :)

You are special to her because:
1) You are down to earth. In her social context, too many men are acting generous and rich to win her heart. They are too common to her.
2) She knows no matter what, she cant win your heart completely because of your commitment to your wife and money. That makes her feel challenging. You feel like something she can never have a firm grip, something that slips out of her hand easily.
3) You have quiet confidence.

Hi Welcome back WB and thanks yunnam. Wishing all Happy New Year!!! :D

Anyway she is having a new year party and she invited me, not sure her BF gonna be there but no matter i going there to have fun with her and her friends. :cool: 3 nights of madness gonna enjoy have fun all for this festive season.

[besafe]

Hi Bro WB and Chairman
Wishing you both a Huat new year in 2013.
Hope to hear more of Bro WB escapades soon.
Cheers

Please drink, but dun drive.

[warbird]

............You love family and money more than women. That's why she feel that you are special. :)
.

Ths so much for ur post n ur analysis.

Hi Welcome back WB and thanks yunnam. Wishing all Happy New Year!!! :D

Anyway she is having a new year party and she invited me, not sure her BF gonna be there but no matter i going there to have fun with her and her friends............

Ths bro. Pls give us ur latest updates n share some of ur secrets...


Hi Bro WB and Chairman
Wishing you both a Huat new year in 2013.
Hope to hear more of Bro WB escapades soon.
Cheers

Please drink, but dun drive.

Hi bro besafe,

Ths bro. Happy New Year!

You should share some of ur S-exploits w/ us.

.................................................

To All Samsters,

Wishing all of you a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year!


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Bro WB

[aiyuhen]

/New here! learning the ropes of prc kc from like minded bros here...

happy prosperous 2013to all!

[deathnitez]

Hi WB,

I am not sure about secret maybe is because me and her are quite honest to each other in someway. As said b4 i know she have BF and she know i am married so there is no pressure when we hang out together. There is so called freedom when we are together. She actually spend her time with her bf on the 2nd day of the party which is fine but of course he don't know who am I really to her.

Maybe is what they called more then a friend less then a bf kinda thing??My mentally i guess is when i feel if the WL is worth making friend with I will make friend with her although "things" have been done. More friend is fine for me .:cool: she also knows of my the other gf lol my avatar. :D

[warbird]

/New here! learning the ropes of prc kc from like minded bros here...

happy prosperous 2013to all!

Ths for visiting this thread. I encourage u to share ur KC experiences w/ us.

Hi WB,

I am not sure about secret maybe is because me and her are quite honest to each other in someway. As said b4 i know she have BF and she know i am married so there is no pressure when we hang out together................................More friend is fine for me ...she also knows of my the other gf lol my avatar.

Hi bro deathnitez,

Ths for ur post. I admire ur humility.

Cheers!

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Good morning!

Last wk I had an outing to LV HH w/ 6 other esteemed bros. We had a medium rm n all of us had a gal haha. Expense per pax was only $70, not including tips for gals. The legendary Bro RB dropped by to say hello. Sometimes I wonder if he actually lives there.

Unlike many big spenders, I hv always tried to keep the friction cost of connecting w/ gals to the minimum. I hv approached many gals outside n inside KTVs, got their HP numbers, then asked for ST or BY either immediately or shortly thereafter. Yes, often immediately. Friction cost: Zero.

One recent example. After visiting a fren, I entered a lift at a building behind PC to get to the parking garage. The lift stopped at 23rd FL (?) n a pretty gal entered. She was going to DC. I got her HP no in 20 secs. The next day, just before joining some bros at CJ 6th FL at 5:15PM, I called this gal n she was already in DC 2nd FL. I walked to DC n met her inside. No one stopped me at the entrance haha. She agreed to ST, but she didn't look as pretty as the day before. I therefore countered w/ a lower offer haha.

Back to my LV outing. I connected w/ a 21 yo gal of my type who is a uni student in PRC. She has the right height, looks, figure n fair, smooth skin hahaha. We hv reached agreement to spending some time together in a secure place haha. She actually called me one late afternoon but I wasn't free...

While I was in the rm at LV, waiting for the arrival of other bros, I informed, via Wechat, a gal named WW in China to come to SG to be my woman. She said 好的 haha. I then told her to get a passport.

I first got to know WW in early June last yr. She is now 23 yo, a graduate of a prestigious uni in Jiangsu. She is 171 w/o shoes, 53 kg, very proportionate figure w/ nice curves n natural B boobs. She is pretty n classy. She initially agreed to be BY-ed by me in China at XX RMB a month, but had refused to coming to SG. Less than two months later, she said she had found a new BF. I was unfazed n I continued to keep in touch w/ her. I'm offering her the exact same amt of RMB per month to come here after CNY, plus rental n travel expenses of course. I'll be keeping my other 2 long-term gals.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[jnewwit]

Happy prosperous 2013 to all!

And thanks to all bros especially WB for sharing.

[deathnitez]

Morning Guys,

last night just had another experience with a new ktv girl.... Sometimes i feel by just being friend with them actually trigger their feeling more?

This is how the story goes. I only know her for like a few days. I meet her outside one of the Ktv after a session with friends. I see her really drunk and nearly fell i went to help her and ask she okay. Her look is average but eyes are beautiful my weakness again. So I say maybe wanna take a seat at the hawker downstair she say okay as her friends still have tai.

We chat abit then exchange numbers then as it was still early and I feeling abit tipsy i ask her if wanna go club dance she fine then she ask her friends along. Ended up 3 girls 1 guy. both her friends were like busy dancing and she keep dancing with me. as it got later she pushed me to a sofa and started doing a lap dance on me. then kissing and hugging starts to happen. that night I send them back.

From that day on every day I receive messages from her. Then again another session happen nearby and it was only for HH so I think since the night is young maybe i ask someone out for supper so i gave her a call. She said okay quite immediately. She this time missed a few tai tips to go out with me. We talk quite abit at a cozy place.

Gtg meeting will continue next time with the story... :D

[deathnitez]

Story continues..... So we went to the beach and chat. We talk a lot from BGR to my work to her having her own business etc. I was abit suprise she actually came her not really to work but to have fun. She then whisper to me it was a long time since she have such feeling with anybody. We kiss and hug each other the whole night at the beach GFe is here again.

Then I told her I have a few GFs and I frequent this "places" and I like freedom.... then she say she is okay and even thanks me for being honest then she told me she wanna makeout with me this week. :cool:

Just notice WB actually put stats of the girl guess i will put hers too lol... she is 1.63, 43kg from fujian don't know graduate or not lol 25 years old boob size most likely a c as her boobs like about to burst out when she did the lap dance with me....will confirm after the makeout session lol.

This girl is speacial in a way cause thru out the whole time of like less then a week I haven pay a single cent direct to her. :D Hope it will be fun will update later about the experience or if there is more suprises.

[warbird]

Happy prosperous 2013 to all!

And thanks to all bros especially WB for sharing.

Ths and Happy New Year to you.

Morning Guys,

last night just had another experience with a new ktv girl.... Sometimes i feel by just being friend with them actually trigger their feeling more?

This is how the story goes. I only know her for like a few days. I meet her outside one of the Ktv after a session with friends.

Story continues........................She then whisper to me it was a long time since she have such feeling with anybody. We kiss and hug each other the whole night at the beach GFe is here again.

............... then she say she is okay and even thanks me for being honest then she told me she wanna makeout with me this week. :cool:

Just notice WB actually put stats of the girl guess i will put hers too lol... she is 1.63, 43kg from fujian don't know graduate or not lol 25 years old boob size most likely a c as her boobs like about to burst out when she did the lap dance with me....will confirm after the makeout session lol.

This girl is speacial in a way cause thru out the whole time of like less then a week I haven pay a single cent direct to her...........

Hi bro deathnitez,

Ths for sharing ur FR w/ this new gal you picked up outside a KTV.

I gather that you hv not paid her a penny yet, which is great as ur friction is essentially zero. Pls update ur FR after you hv 'made love' to her. Will it be FOC?

Cheers!

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Good morning!

Bro deathnitez alluded to my focus on a gal's stats. I always want to know the real age n stats of a gal as it's quantifiable n measurable. Facial 'beauty' is very subjective n can be easily altered w/ skillful makeup.

A case in point. The other day my new uni student showed me pics of 32 yo Fan Bingbing w/o makeup or 素颜， I'm shocked as to how old n ugly the actress is, despite her multiple cosmetic surgeries.

"...范冰冰的美可谓男人爱女人妒，但如果这份美貌是“妆”出来的，你是会觉得幻灭，还是信心高涨？15张 素颜照记录范冰冰无妆抓拍史，事实再一次证明，化妆品的力量确实无限大..."

Morale of the story: Never, ever be seduced or charmed by a 'very beautiful' gal in the night scene. You must qualify n quantify her to see if she is good enough for u, even if she is just for ST. At the very least, you want to see her w/o makeup at 2:00PM in a very sunny day haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[deathnitez]

Afternoon all and WB bro,

Yup had a great time with her. We were busy laughing and enjoying each other company for the whole night. This time similar... hear the story of her not having any good luck with the guys they love. Being treated badly by her ex-husband.

She told me on bed the first time she saw me and talk to me she feel very comfortable. I told her before as my heart will never settle down and i will never say "I Love Her" she seems fine. Although she knows that me and her cannot be together she still don't mind being with me as more then a friend and less then a BF relationship "she say she is still single". The whole night was free except for the room and dinner of course. She gave me thai style massage i was suprise she know it as she used to be a masseuge.

Then some thing funny happen. One of my gf message me say she dreamt of me and in the dream I say I love you to another girl. By seeing the girl felt "heart pain and cried" dont know true or not. Then Last night she saw this message lol suddenly give me cold shoulder but later I explained to her say i told her before she is not the only girl then she say "Is ok as long tonight you are mine I am very happy..." I was like wow okay...

Lastly her cup is a C.... i asked this time as it has always been my failure to gauge girls boobs. I thought is a D as my hands are full.... all this done within a week...fastest base on my record with ktv girls which might be slow compared to other bros. :cool:

[fallen.angel]

I was at a HFJ in Chijmes 2 days ago. The place has a mix of Taiwanese and PRC singers and dancers. I went with 2 buddies and one of them brought along his SG gf. I asked the SG gal, who was there at the HFJ the very first time, to scan the place and tell me who she thinks is the prettiest gal there. Both of us agreed on the most chio gal we liked – the only gal with short hair. This 23yo gal from Tainan had this style and confidence and looks/features that made her stand out from the rest of the gals. So I got her to my table and we played dice game and drank. When we left, she gave me her WeChat and asked me to call her if I return.

The next day, using her WeChat nick, I found her Wrench (popular photo blog for Taiwanese) account and saw her pics that she posted 3 years ago. OMG, she was fat and ugly! So yes, make up and low light condition can work wonders on a gal!

Yes, Fan BingBing without makeup is ugly... but I'll still fcuk her nonetheless... :p I'm not a choosy guy :P

[chenzong]

Morale of the story:

The English teacher says it's "moral", bro WB. Morale is what uplifts troops and make them die for their country. Moral is what makes the troops not shoot civilians.

It has been a crazy time back in Singapore. I have just "fired" my boss and shall be starting my own business again, after so many years of working for others.

You have not changed your phone number since the last we met, yes?

[warbird]

Afternoon all and WB bro...............

She told me on bed the first time she saw me and talk to me she feel very comfortable....................................... ..............
Lastly her cup is a C.... i asked this time as it has always been my failure to gauge girls boobs. I thought is a D as my hands are full.... all this done within a week...fastest base on my record with ktv girls which might be slow compared to other bros. :cool:

Hi bro deathnitez,

Ths for the update.

I was at a HFJ in Chijmes 2 days ago.....................
The next day, using her WeChat nick, I found her Wrench (popular photo blog for Taiwanese) account and saw her pics that she posted 3 years ago. OMG, she was fat and ugly! So yes, make up and low light condition can work wonders on a gal!

Yes, Fan BingBing without makeup is ugly... but I'll still fcuk her nonetheless... :p I'm not a choosy guy .......

Hi Bro FA,

I'm not a choosy guy either. But my dick won't be able to stand after seeing he pics haha.

Cheers!

The English teacher says it's "moral", bro WB. Morale is what uplifts troops and make them die for their country. Moral is what makes the troops not shoot civilians.

It has been a crazy time back in Singapore. I have just "fired" my boss and shall be starting my own business again, after so many years of working for others.

You have not changed your phone number since the last we met, yes?

Hi bro chenzong,

Ths for correcting my typo.

Could u PM your HP number?

Cheers!

Bro WB

[fallen.angel]

Bro WB, my dick will always stand for Fan BingBing… just give me a chance to bonk her… :p

[warbird]

Bro WB, my dick will always stand for Fan BingBing… just give me a chance to bonk her… :p

Dear Bro FA,

Good for u!

It merely reveals the fact that you're a very healthy and virile man, near the peak of ur male sexuality n mojo. I wish I had a fraction of what u hv.

Unfortunately, I'm a lao chi ko pek and I need a young n sexy woman of my type who knows how to lick my nipples and suck my didi before I can penetrate her 桃园洞 aka Peach Garden Hole...

Will I hv a chance to meet u soon?

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

I'm going to re-examine a favourite topic of mine: The Rashomon Effect.

I knew it was a typo or oversight when I used 'morale' instead of 'moral' in my recent post.

When I was searching for the posts in which I used the word 'moral' as a noun correctly, I came across my thread on 'Rashomon Effect."

http://sammyboysexforum.com/showthread.php?p=3337835&highlight=moral#post3337835

For those bros who r unfamiliar w/ the famous Japanese movie Rashomon (1950), here is a good review: Rashomon (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/1204/rashomon.htm)

The moral of this movie for me?

Reality is in the mind of the beholder.:cool:

Good day!
Here is another post where I used the word 'moral' as a noun correctly.
http://sammyboysexforum.com/showthread.php?p=2805849&highlight=moral#post2805849

We all make mistakes due to carelessness or oversight...and I hv been a daily offender.

For example, it took me 3 yrs before I noticed the word 'OUSIDE' in "Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs." What is OUSIDE?

At this time, I like to focus on a sentence which our dear bro chenzong wrote:

"Moral is what makes the troops not shoot civilians."

Notice that 'moral' is used as a noun here.

Somehow it just doesn't sound pleasing to me. I wonder if it could also be a typo or oversight.

May I offer my 2 cents? Let me try. The following sentences sound more pleasing to me.

"Morality is what makes the troops not shoot civilians."

Or perhaps,

"Morals are what makes the troops not shoot civilians."

I'm sure it can be further improved by many bros here, including bro chenzong. I'm here to learn n improve myself, every hr, everyday...

According to the Oxford Advanced American Dictionary:

moral noun
/ˈmɔrəl; ˈmɑrəl/ moral pronunciation American

1 morals [plural] standards or principles of good behavior, especially in matters of sexual relationships.
Young people these days have no morals.
The play was considered an affront to public morals.
The question is one of manners rather than morals.
(old-fashioned)a woman of loose morals (= with a low standard of sexual behavior)

2 [countable] a practical lesson that a story, an event, or an experience teaches you.
And the moral is that crime doesn't pay.

http://oaadonline.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/moral_2

Hv a great day!

Bro WB

[jnewwit]

My version is that "morals" is a new word, meaning: :pMore Orals! haha

[ericchow]

桃园洞 aka Peach Garden Hole...


Haha, creative expression.. I love it :D

[fallen.angel]

Dear Bro FA,

Good for u!

It merely reveals the fact that you're a very healthy and virile man, near the peak of ur male sexuality n mojo. I wish I had a fraction of what u hv.

Unfortunately, I'm a lao chi ko pek and I need a young n sexy woman of my type who knows how to lick my nipples and suck my didi before I can penetrate her 桃园洞 aka Peach Garden Hole...

Will I hv a chance to meet u soon?

Cheers!

Bro WB


My dearest da ge,

The pleasure is always mine!

As long as its SH, I will be able to make it!

I have been taking the little dried red fruit you mentioned for more than a month and its working wonders - for my eyes... I will continue to eat it on a daily basis... I cannot find any health food/supplements that is so effective and beneficial and yet so darn cheap! Btw, I don’t take the extract/juice/concentrate but actually eat the fruit itself by first soaking it in hot water…

Sexual peak and virility is not related to age, though I’ll be happy if I’m half as strong as you when I reach your age. I found that my sexual performance suffers greatly when I put on excessive weight due to over-eating, lack of exercise and stress. A healthy lifestyle with regular exercise and healthy eating will always guarantee sexual prowess! There is no secret or substitute for it. I don’t smoke and I don’t drink excessively – these things put unnecessary stress to the liver and system and in turn affect how we perform in bed.

Something related to sex…

Have you tried asking your gals to suck your dick straight after you’ve cummed (from penetrative intercourse)? Every time my gal does that to me, I’ll scream in ecstasy! I really can’t describe or explain that feeling but its like pain and pleasure all mixed up into something so strong and unbearable yet so shiok. My gal doesn’t know why sucking me dry right after I cum in her Peach Garden Hole can give me such extreme reactions but I told her: what if I licked your clitoris right after you’ve cummed? She said: super sensitive. Anyways, I don’t see the same kind of reaction from Jap AV actors when they put their spent dicks into the AV gals mouth right after sexual intercourse so I’m posting this question here – have you tried it before and if so, do you have the same feeling as me?

[CSIteam5]

My version is that "morals" is a new word, meaning: :pMore Orals! haha

Good One ;)

[Ladyrain]

The legendary warbird... And his thesis about women. :p
You make me wonder how you look like.

[chenzong]

Haha, Bro WB! "Morals" is the correct one!

[jnewwit]

Haha, creative expression.. I love it :D

Glad you like it. Literally and in reality I like it too. :p

[warbird]

My version is that "morals" is a new word, meaning: More Orals! haha

Hi bro jnewwit,

More Orals! Very few men would refuse that...

Haha, creative expression.. I love it :D

Hahaha...

My dearest da ge,

The pleasure is always mine!

As long as its SH, I will be able to make it!

I have been taking the little dried red fruit you mentioned for more than a month and its working wonders - for my eyes... I will continue to eat it on a daily basis... I cannot find any health food/supplements that is so effective and beneficial and yet so darn cheap! Btw, I don’t take the extract/juice/concentrate but actually eat the fruit itself by first soaking it in hot water…

Sexual peak and virility is not related to age, though I’ll be happy if I’m half as strong as you when I reach your age..............................

Have you tried asking your gals to suck your dick straight after you’ve cummed (from penetrative intercourse)? Every time my gal does that to me, I’ll scream in ecstasy! I really can’t describe or explain that feeling but its like pain and pleasure all mixed up into something so strong and unbearable yet so shiok......................have you tried it before and if so, do you have the same feeling as me?

Dear Bro FA,

OK, will only invite u for SH.

Good for ur eyes?? Has it really improved your visual acuity? Where do u get the fresh berries? Pls tell me via Wechat.

Ths for the tip, but I hv never tried the act. My didi is usually hypersensitive after I hv shot my load into a gal's 桃园洞 aka Peach Garden Hole. I hv to make sure the gal is very gentle.

Ths again,

Bro WB

Good One ;)

Very good...

The legendary warbird... And his thesis about women. :p
You make me wonder how you look like.

Hi Sis Ladyrain,

I'm just a motivated n energetic student of sexology n human RS...

I hv studied hard n practiced (practised) diligently haha...

How do I look? I'm a very fit lao chi ko pek. I hv more hair than most young men in their 20s, seriously, n my weight is the same as when I was 20...

Cheers!

Bro WB

Haha, Bro WB! "Morals" is the correct one!

Hi bro chenzong,

Yes haha.

Glad you like it. Literally and in reality I like it too.

Bro, of course we all love it.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

I want to be Mode One n be brutally honest:

Desire n craving for a very pretty n sexy young woman whose 桃园洞 aka Peach Garden Hole (PGH) is aesthetically pleasing, fresh, exclusive, safe, wet, delicious, tight n responsive is the most powerful motivator for most healthy heterosexual men. It's a lifelong quest.

Two problems for a man here. Firstly, women age fast...n secondly, it can be a challenge keeping a really pretty n young PGH n making sure she will remain exclusive n safe to any one man. He must make her addicted to him, emotionally, sexually n financially ASAP. I hv much to say abt this vital subject later...of course as she ages, the table is turned.

My two sons, both in their 20s, confided w/ me: We like gals (of our type) who r 18. A 38 yo man still likes gals who r 18. When he is 80, he will still like gals who r 18.

And of course I like gals who r 18.

BTW, 18 is the legal age in Gotham City.

Most women r quite different n not as 'genital-centric' as men...

Hv a great day!

Bro WB

[AAconnection]

Wow! Very interesting topics. Learn many things from brother Warbird and many other brother who share. Thank you!:)

[chenzong]

How do I look? I'm a very fit lao chi ko pek. I hv more hair than most young men in their 20s, seriously, n my weight is the same as when I was 20...



As as someone who has met up with the man himself, I can vouch that Bro Warbird looks 20 years younger than his true age! It is a blessing indeed to look young.

[ahpui99]

As as someone who has met up with the man himself, I can vouch that Bro Warbird looks 20 years younger than his true age! It is a blessing indeed to look young.

Impressive! And his kids are 20 years old??!!??

Solid..... I too wish to learn from this man

[Loving_Dickhead]

Hi bro warbird and the rest of esteemed bros, hows life?
:D hope you guys are all happy cheonging and enjoying all the PRC pussies.

[ericchow]

Hi bro warbird and the rest of esteemed bros, hows life?
:D hope you guys are all happy cheonging and enjoying all the PRC pussies.

The same to you, happy cheonging 2013! :D

[warbird]

Wow! Very interesting topics. Learn many things from brother Warbird and many other brother who share. Thank you!

Hi bro AAconnection,

You're welcome.

Life is so interesting and mysterious...

As as someone who has met up with the man himself, I can vouch that Bro Warbird looks 20 years younger than his true age! It is a blessing indeed to look young.

Bro chenzong, you're exaggerating quite a bit haha.

Impressive! And his kids are 20 years old??!!??


My youngest son is older than my lao po.

Hi bro warbird and the rest of esteemed bros, hows life?
:D hope you guys are all happy cheonging and enjoying all the PRC pussies.

Hi Bro LDH,

Life is wonderful!

I always enjoy PGHs of my type, regardless of nationality.

Happy Cheonging!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

How much sexual confidence (SC) do u hv? Rank yourself from a scale of 0 to 100, 100 being max or absolute SC. Aim to reach 100.

I received the following e-mail on sexual confidence recently:

Bro Warbird,

Most guys lack confidence in their ability to physically turn on a woman and “rock her world” when it comes time to hit the sheets. A woman knows right away if she’s dealing with one of these “boy-men” and runs for the hills as soon as she realizes it. If you want to make sure she sees you as a Sexually Confident kind of guy -- the kind of guy who can ignite throbbing sexual passions deep inside her -- you need to become a master at giving women an incredible sexual experience. Here are 10 powerful tips to get you started.

Number 10

Uncover the source of Sexual Confidence

Sexual Confidence comes as a result of knowing how to give a woman mind-blowing pleasure. It’s the confidence that the woman you’re with will have a once-in-a-lifetime experience with you. It’s knowing all the steps -- from the first eye contact all the way to the “end game” -- and knowing how to build ANTICIPATION at every step along the way. Start by practicing my “two steps forward, one step back” technique by escalating things, then backing off, then escalating further, then backing off again. The anticipation and arousal this creates will drive her INSANE. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Number 9

Get out of the manipulation mindset

Guys are always curious about how to “trick” a girl into bed -- what the magic words are, etc.. I personally know a few guys who do this… and I can tell you it does NOT lead to fulfillment. Avoid this whole “manipulation mindset,” and stop trying to figure out what the magic bullets are to get a woman to do what you want in a dishonest way. It’s much better to work on becoming an interesting guy who knows what to do to build attraction in a natural, non-manipulative way. If what you’re doing feels wrong or unethical, stop it. There are better ways to get what you want.

Number 8

Stop idealizing beautiful women

Most guys get fooled into believing that just because a woman is unusually attractive, she’s also usually honest and would never consider taking from you, cheating on you or lying to you. The reality is that people are never 100% “good” or 100% “bad.” There are situations where ANY person would lie, cheat, steal, or be disloyal. When you accept the reality that people are people, a beautiful woman is still human, and that the woman you feel strongly for is just as likely to be dishonest or disloyal as any other, you’ll take her off that pedestal you put her on. And that’s an important step toward achieving Sexual Confidence.

How important are looks when it comes to being confident in bed?

Page 2: Become more confident

Number 7

Looks don’t matter when it comes to Sexual Confidence

Nothing about how you look, how old you are, how tall you are, how much you weigh, how much money you make, or whether or not you’re her type has ANYTHING to do with how you can make a woman feel once you’re in bed with her. A key to remember is that AFTER a woman has experienced a mind-blowing intimate experience with you, that experience alone will render all of that other stuff irrelevant. It just won’t matter. Picture yourself in this future ahead of time and it’ll help make it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Number 6

Delay your gratification

Delaying gratification becomes more profound the more you think about it -- and when it comes to sex, it’s absolutely critical. It not only allows you to build the sexual tension and make her want you more and more, but the teasing and anticipation act as amplifiers to HER arousal. Bottom line: You are more likely to turn her on -- and more likely to take things to a physical level -- if you’re cool and calm. Lose your need for instant results, and you’ll drive her CRAZY.

Number 5

Act like sex is normal

A lot of guys get nervous when it comes time to have sex; they think they need to start acting differently when it’s time to “do the deed.” But sex is normal, so keep acting normal as things heat up. Don’t make a big deal out of it; keep having fun; keep teasing; keep acting light. Smoothly, confidently, comfortably progress from one step to the next, all the while enjoying yourself and acting like all is normal -- because it is.

Number 4

Put sex into perspective

Instead of positioning sex as the ultimate goal and the center of your purpose, move it so it’s simply one of your many goals. Make it a natural outcome if you like a woman and if you choose to spend the time and effort to get to that point. Take the “pinnacle value” out of sex, put it in perspective, and your relaxed attitude will make you much more likely to get it.


The No. 1 way to boost your confidence in bed…

Page 3: Be confident

Number 3

Tame the fear of rejection

As you progress from one step to the next with a woman -- from a casual date to touching, kissing and beyond -- the stakes get bigger and bigger. Men typically feel more apprehensive as they progress from one step to the next, and feel less confident moving to the next step as things get more intense. The fear is not of being rejected or stopped, but of losing all the ground that has been gained, and going back to ZERO. Fortunately, the more involved you get, the more likely it is you’ll succeed. The next step involves less risk, and it makes the sexual act more likely. Remember this.

Number 2

Interpret her actions

If she stops you, it usually doesn’t mean that she wants you to stop FOREVER; it means that you didn’t get her turned on enough. Interpret it as “I’m not ready yet,” rather than “Go away, I don’t like you anymore.” Stop, lean back, talk casually for a while and just relax. Then get her even MORE turned on than before. Feel free to make her ASK you for sex… or even beg. “Please” is a great word -- teach her to use it, and she’ll LOVE you for it.

Number 1

Get in touch with the animal inside

A woman wants a man who’s in touch with his inner ANIMAL. If he’s overly logical, overly analytical, overly controlled, overly educated, it shows a woman that he cannot let the animal out. At an instinctive level, a woman knows that this means she won’t be able to FEEL anything strong toward him, and she knows he won’t be able to arouse any sexual feelings inside of her. Study, get to know, make friends with, and DEVELOP the animal inside you. Educating yourself in this area is one of the most important things you can do to take your Sexual Confidence to the next level.

Cheers!

Your Guru

[MillerV]

great post WB! Bump!

[erkianpeng]

Why don't we talk more about the skills to be used to pick up KTV girls instead of boasting about your personal exploits?

[MoralEpitoma]

Find one night I must try Golden Million KTV in Havelock Road.

[warbird]

great post WB! Bump!

Hi Bro MV,

Ths for ur support n encouragement. I'm always reading, learning, researching and practicing...

I'll remain a diligent student of human sexology and man-woman RS for the rest of my life.

Cheers!

Why don't we talk more about the skills to be used to pick up KTV girls instead of boasting about your personal exploits?

Hi Bro EKP,

Many esteemed bros n I hv extensively discussed HOW n WHERE to pick up KTV gals in SG in our earlier posts.

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Good morning!

Since I started this thread in June of 2009, I hv long realized that picking up KTV gals outside KTVs in SG is not much of a challenge.

I now don't 'pick up' any gals, instead I just want to connect with n MERGE INTO them hahaha. I hv since expanded to other related areas including connecting w/ n merging into any gals anywhere in the world, including non-WLs...n what to do after getting their ctc numbers, etc. There r only two types of women I shun, regardless of how beautiful: 1) Married women n 2) relatives.

My current research focus is on the seldom discussed subject of sexual addiction. No, not yours, but hers. No, not her generic sexual addiction to many different men, but her specific sexual addiction to you and ONLY you. More importantly, not only her sexual addiction, but also her emotional addiction to you, which is THE most powerful. I hv case studies to support my conclusion. And then there is financial addiction which is really quite tenuous n the weakest. What if a richer man comes along?

BTW, attraction precedes addiction.

Hope + Uncertainty = Attraction (Passion)

It behooves a man to remember the above equation, whether he has just met the woman 20 secs ago or he has spent 20 yrs w/ her.

In the past, I had concentrated my efforts on theories, strategies, methods n techniques, but I had very limited field actions when I started this thread...in fact, some esteemed bros had criticized me, appropriately n rightfully, for being "an armchair general" w/ no actual combat experiences. I was like a infant, according to one very esteemed bro.

As with any skill the only way to improve is to practice and practice and practice...I hv done just that hahaha.

In the last several yrs, I hv proposed BY to AVERY gal of my preferred type I hv met n who don't do ST. For gals in SG, about 90% hv accepted my offer, but I hv consummated the deal w/ less than half of them. I just don't hv the time. BTW, if I only BY gals of my type who r uni students/graduates, I'll find close to zero here in SG.

Fortunately, there r many, many uni students/graduates of my type in China. And almost 100% of them hv accepted my offer. But the catch is that I hv to BY them in China. So far only abt 5% hv agreed to come to SG.

The best so far is 23 yo NL, a graduate of a major uni, who is very pretty, 171 w/ B/C boobs n proportionate figure. She is a non-WL who is gainfully employed.

When NL knew that I lived in SG, she wanted to hv nothing to do w/ me. I kept in touch by sending one msg a month. I told her to get a passport, but she ignored me. Later she tried to 'borrow' a little money from me n I flatly rejected her. End of story? Just the opposite. My value shot up n she became more interested...a few wks later, I 'commanded' her to come to SG n she agreed haha.

I always give detailed FRs here, not to be boastful or pat myself on the back, but to illustrate the validity n practicality of my various hypotheses n techniques, which I have gleaned from multiple sources, including scientific papers in peer review journals n writings of many well known gurus. I hv also reported my many failures n egregious mistakes.

I believe that extensive theoretical knowledge n vast hands-on experience (with as many partners as possible) r equally important in connecting w/ n merging into women of your preferred type n making them addicted to u, emotionally n sexually.

But there r prerequisites. Your mindset n self confidence n self mastery, at the subconscious level, will be the most powerful determinants of ur degree of success. Actually, the same principles apply to every field of human endeavor. If for whatever reason you think you're 'not good enough' for any task or any pursue, you hv lost...

Cheers!

Bro WB

[NotMyRealName]

Thanks for sharing.

[MillerV]

Thanks for the advice again WB!
Gotta practice, practice and practice!

[deathnitez]

WB bro i totally agree about not giving this girls money. The more you reject them the more they will fall for you. :D cause we just don't harshly do what they want. Just today i went to ktv i say my friend is playing game with me then i ask her to block to wine for me she disagree then later i say "no you must drink some" then not long after she drunk. We dance then for some reason whenever i dance they say "you are a good guy...." i was like wtf. again then for tonight she didn't ask me for tip.... i guess like you say if you are a guy who know what you really want they will fall for you??? not sure if is true?? sorry i might not be writing properly as i just got back from a drinking session.....:cool:

[warbird]

Thanks for sharing.

You're welcome.

Thanks for the advice again WB!
Gotta practice, practice and practice!

Bro MV, practice makes perfect.

WB bro i totally agree about not giving this girls money. The more you reject them the more they will fall for you.............................. i guess like you say if you are a guy who know what you really want they will fall for you??? not sure if is true?? sorry i might not be writing properly as i just got back from a drinking session.....:cool:

Hi bro deathnitz,

Thks for sharing.

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Good afternoon!

Bro MV wants to practice n practice (practise)...good for him!

Could a man become a world class neurosurgeon w/o hands on clinical practice? Do u think he could suddenly become a master who could give women extended massive orgasms (EMO) w/o any practice?

BTW, it's absolutely essential to give women regular PVO. In addition to pre-penetration orgasms to 'prime the pump,' correct sexual positions, penetration angles n movements, a man's ablity to last at least 10-15 min is the key to giving her PVO.

Is regular PVO enough to get her sexually addicted to u and only u? No, by itself it's not enough. You must anchor her intense pleasure during PVO specifically to you and only u hahaha. Hint: Start by giving her a nick that no one else knows, not even her mom haha.

A word of warning. If u are successfully in getting ur type of girls emotionally n sexually addicted to u and u don't hv any KC for them, very soon u will be bored w/ them. They will become clingy n desperate n it could be very difficult to get rid of them. That is when ur nightmare begins. Some of them might become homicidal and/or suicidal...don't do it on the wrong girls! Try to make it a win-win situation.

Bro deathnitez brought up the subject of not giving any money to women. It should work well for for non-WLs. But you usually must spend some money to get WLs in bed, at least initially.

IMHO, a man should not give any extra money or buy gifts for their women unless they hv earned it. Say no to them whenever it's appropriate to do so. Do not care abt what they think or how they will react. They can take it or leave it. Actually saying no and ignoring them increase their attraction for him.

BTW, NL is trying to KC me. She has given me the best compliment I hv ever received. Knowing that I was BY-ing two other girls, she asked me 3 days ago if I was well to do. I replied: 什么算富有呢，she said: 我感觉你素质很高，不像国内的有钱人. To get the ball rolling, I hv just given her a western name haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[warbird]

Good afternoon!

If you're thinking of a long-term legally committed RS (aka marriage) w/ ur dream gal, you must proceed w/ extreme caution. Don't base ur decisions on emotions. You must think it through n analyze the future RS logically.

IMHO, you should read the e-book "How To Be The Jerk Women Love" before going to ROM...it'll be a win-win situation for both of u.

I just received a msg from another guru:

The Truth About Women Beauty - Why you hold the cards‏

Hey Bro warbird,

A woman peaks is in her early twenties. (He is referring to her good looks and physical attractiveness.)

I want you to always keep that in mind.

A woman PEAKS is in her early twenties.

No matter how hot or cute you think she is right now, her beauty
and attractiveness will always go down after that...................................

A lot of women are delusional about the fact that a man should love
them for what's inside.

........................................

Not understanding that, for a man, visual is very
important--regardless of how much he loves his partner.

A lot will hide behind the fact that they had kids.

Or that it's just natural to be less attractive as you grow older.

...........................................

Have an great day!

Mr Guru

I also came across this msg on a guy's blog from Gotham (I hv taken the liberty of doing some editing for obvious typos):

As I have said, most males are attracted to 13-28 year old women, so some men will prefer 14-15 year olds while others covet late twenty women. But men's sexual preference is probably shaved like a standard Gauss Bell, being the median at around 20 and the main preference at around 17-24. Sexual preference for prepubescent girls under 12/13 is definitively deviant, but so is probably also strong sexual attraction towards women over 35. Women over 35 can probably give men satisfaction by being an analogous substitute, by being pretty similar to the real thing. Women in the 35-45 age bracket can also be attractive if their appear younger and still fertile.

Also, most historic records clearly show that girls have always started menstruating at around 11-12. In Roman times, women married at the ages of 13-15 and gave perfectly healthy babies. Its true that during famines and severe malnutrition girls can retard their menarche until the age of 14-15, but that is the exception, not the rule. During medieval times the roman catholic church set a minimum age of 12 for consummation of marriage, because women were ready back then too. That girls used to menstruate at 16 or 17 is a feminist lie. It is also a feminist lie that pregnancies for women in their midteens are risky. Teen pregnancies are only risky if the mother is under 14 or severely underdeveloped for her age. Argentine girls btw look younger than their US counterparts, because they are smaller and skinnier.

There is an obvious reason why most men would prefer a 16 year old over an 28 year old if they were free of their cultural and legal bounds by the way, because of the fecundity POTENTIAL.

A 28 year old wife will pop out at most probably 2-3 kids, having her most fertile years behind her, whereas a 16 year old bride will easily pop out 7-8 children and have her best years before her.




I guess I'm a very average (or should I say median) male for preferring gals aged 18 to 24 hahaha.

I hv more FRs on my recent personal connection w/ gals of my type which I'll post here when I hv the time.

Happy and Prosperous Lunar New Year to all!

Bro WB

[warbird]

Correction: If u are successful (NOT successfully) in getting ur type of girls emotionally n sexually addicted to u...

Thanks!

[CapricornAscend]

Hi Warbird,
Interesting posts by you. I theorize, hypothesize and put them into test in my free time too :)

[chenzong]

A word of warning. If u are successfully in getting ur type of girls emotionally n sexually addicted to u and u don't hv any KC for them, very soon u will be bored w/ them. They will become clingy n desperate n it could be very difficult to get rid of them. That is when ur nightmare begins. Some of them might become homicidal and/or suicidal...don't do it on the wrong girls! Try to make it a win-win situation.

Bro WB, this warning cannot be emphasised and repeated enough. The nightmare is not very fun to go through, and Chinese women are really into these drama.

[deathnitez]

Actually i can't agree more with WB shared theory about early 20 is the peak.... with make up they look damn heavenly but when without some are like OMFG!!!! exp before not a good thing.... but there are still rare gems out there which still looks heavenly when they are at their early 30s..... lol :cool:

[NotMyRealName]

A word of warning. If u are successfully in getting ur type of girls emotionally n sexually addicted to u and u don't hv any KC for them, very soon u will be bored w/ them. They will become clingy n desperate n it could be very difficult to get rid of them. That is when ur nightmare begins. Some of them might become homicidal and/or suicidal...don't do it on the wrong girls! Try to make it a win-win situation.


Very good advice and it happens to me. Although from our angle, it may look like they being clingy, but on the other hand, there is nothing to lose and everything to gain if their clingy words/action can get you to loosen your wallet, much like the KTV girl who will always say complementary words or act like a poor thing to say "帅哥，照顾一下嘛，我今天没什么台，还了车费就没钱了."OR ”我还没吃饭呢，你这么好，多给二十块吧“, if your heart give in, then she gain $20, if not, she only spent very little energy to say those words anyway.

[warbird]

Hi Warbird,
Interesting posts by you. I theorize, hypothesize and put them into test in my free time too :)

Hi Bro CA,

Life is short, don't wait, take immediate n focused action.

Practice w/ as many gals of ur type as possible, as soon as possible. Go for the very best n you will be pleasantly surprised...

I await ur juicy FRs haha.

Regardless of the methods and techniques, ur ultimate success w/ women is directly proportional to your level of self confidence/mastery. Period.

Bro WB, this warning cannot be emphasised and repeated enough. The nightmare is not very fun to go through, and Chinese women are really into these drama.

Hi Bro Chenzong,

You're right.

Would u like to share stories u hv heard to better illustrate what jilted women might do to exact revenge from their ex BFs/husbands or romantic rivals?

I hv seen many horrific case studies in Gotham City.

Cheers!

Actually i can't agree more with WB shared theory about early 20 is the peak.... with make up they look damn heavenly but when without some are like OMFG!!!! exp before not a good thing.... but there are still rare gems out there which still looks heavenly when they are at their early 30s..... lol [QUOTE]

Very few gals look good w/o make up, even when they r in their early 20s.

[QUOTE=NotMyRealName;8477450]Very good advice and it happens to me. Although from our angle, it may look like they being clingy, but on the other hand, there is nothing to lose and everything to gain if their clingy words/action can get you to loosen your wallet, much like the KTV girl who will always say complementary words or act like a poor thing to say "帅哥，照顾一下嘛，我今天没什么台，还了车费就没钱了."OR ”我还没吃饭呢，你这么好，多给二十块吧“, if your heart give in, then she gain $20, if not, she only spent very little energy to say those words anyway.

Hi bro,

They just need more money from u haha.

Cheers!


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Good morning!

In addition to awesome self confidence/mastery, a man needs a super positive mindset plus the right strategies n techniques to become very good w/ women. Of course he must be physically n emotionally very fit and he also has to practice diligently...

The challenge is to get a young, pretty SYT of ur type sexually n emotionally addicted to you. But make sure she has good self esteem n is physically/emotionally healthy. She must be someone who doesn't hv a deprived/neglected childhood n who is not the addictive type. Otherwise you could get into a lot of troubles.

Wishing everyone here a happy, healthy n prosperous Lunar New Year!

Bro WB

[NotMyRealName]

Quiet here.

[deathnitez]

lol I been busy lately hardly going ktv this few days guess maybe i am getting abit bored of it......weird feeling....:cool:

[warbird]

Quiet here.

Awaiting ur FRs.

lol I been busy lately hardly going ktv this few days guess maybe i am getting abit bored of it......weird feeling....:cool:

I couldn't go because my family came here for CNY.

Cheers!

[warbird]

Hi dear bros,

I hv alluded to the fact that Fang Bing Bing is homely w/o makeup.

I like to share the following e-mail from an Ang Moh guru.

Could it possibly be true that the women you see

as "beautiful" or even "sexy" really AREN'T?

IS SHE REALLY AS HOT AS SHE SEEMS?


By now you know how strongly I believe that women really go for
guys who do the best with what they've got.

It really isn't as much about genetic looks, etc. as it is about making an
effort when it comes to grooming, hygiene and having some
semblance of a sense of style.

Well, today I'm going to prove that to you in a way that may
completely blindside you and leave you in a state of shock.

Are you ready for this?

The phenomenon at play here is NOT gender specific. And I can
prove it.

A couple of weeks ago I was in line at the grocery store when I
noticed the cover of one of the tabloid rags.

As they often do, they showed some pictures of celebrities without
makeup...as caught by paparazzi.

What was unusual about this particular cover was that one of the
pictures carried the caption, "Guess who?" even though the photo
wasn't obscured in any way at all.


You couldn't even tell who the chick was.

I was somehow reminded of a feature I saw in GQ magazine years and
years ago where they took bums off the street and gave them
complete "makeovers". The before and after pics were nothing
short of startling. You had to look really, really closely to
believe they were of the same guy.

You've heard the old joke about taking a woman home and waking up
next to someone else entirely the next morning...but there really is
some truth to that.

And the truth lies in the fact that women--even more so than
men--really do attract us physically by doing the best with what
they've got.

The simple fact that they've got makeup and more ways to
"accessorize" than we do should make that pretty obvious, actually.

Nevertheless, my challenge to you is this: The next time you find
a woman particularly sexy, go ahead and try to look BENEATH her
stylish threads, her hairstyle, her makeup and even her personality
type.

Would this woman still be as HOT and SEXY to you if she didn't have
all of that going for her?

In other words, how much of her allure is 100% within her personal
control?

For better or worse, I happened to go to college in central
Pennsylvania, and there were plenty of Mennonite girls who were
students there. If you're unfamiliar with what I'm talking about,
the level of conservatism they adhere to is just a rung or two
above "Amish".

One day in class when I was particularly bored, I perhaps
accidentally performed the exercise I'm suggesting to you in
reverse.

My eyes turned to a Mennonite girl in a white cap and nondescript
light blue dress on the other side of the room. She had no makeup
on, of course, and her blonde hair was fixed in a bun like some
sort of "school marm".

Suddenly, as if I had been looking at one of those "stereogram"
pictures that were popular about ten years ago, I realized she was
an absolutely gorgeous girl.

I imagined her with long hair, a Benetton sweater and Guess jeans
(hey, it was the late '80s) and nearly flew out of my seat.

"Geez...what a waste", I thought.

Well, a TON of women are VERY, VERY well acquainted with the
dynamic I'm talking about here. And plenty of them have literally
MASTERED the art of working it to their advantage.

Seriously, a number of women you may perceive as "hot" aren't
really all that physically beautiful. But yes...they do the best
with what they've got.

A few years ago I featured a young woman on one of my promo videos
for you guys. Hundreds of you went nuts over her.

Shortly thereafter, I saw her again at an event and was talking to
her when I got a jolt in the OPPOSITE direction that I'd
experienced back in my college class.

It dawned on me that if she had no style, no makeup, used some sort
of shampoo that didn't make her hair so shiny and didn't have such
a "giggly" personality; she'd actually be sort of homely.

Truth be told, that wasn't the first time I'd ever come to such a
realization. I've worked closely with at least two other women
back in the IT world who guys were literally CRAZY about...but who
when you got right down to it were physically pretty ugly.

And yes...style, personality and shiny hair won out over genetics in
their case also.

Go ahead and put what I'm saying to the test with a few women in
your social circle. And when you've seen the light, go ahead and
readily apply the logic you've verified to YOUR OWN situation.

Likewise, do the best with what you've got and prepare to be
SHOCKED by the real, tangible difference it all makes.

Be Good,

Your guru

[DiuLeiLouMou]

I love this thread ;) Two thumbs up for warbird :D

[NotMyRealName]

Awaiting ur FRs.


Quiet for me too due to CNY holidays, energy ($ and body) level low as well.

[NotMyRealName]

Cooling off period, be it for a purchase or for a GF, is a good thing from the buyer perspective.

I have experienced that in a sudden rush of strong feelings for a gal, that despite the rapidly thinning wallet, that without much prompting or for sound-too-bad-to-be-true-if-I-question-myself-or-her (mom sick, brother need school fees, family want to move house because cannot stand the brother and his wife, want to rent a better place etc etc). Half the time it is true but the extent was exaggerated 2x/3x/10x.

So, cool off, go to another KTV joint, pick a couple of gals that looks good to my eyes, and once the same sob stories flows, then I wake up. Hahaha.

So don't forget the forest.

[warbird]

I love this thread ;) Two thumbs up for warbird :D

Hi bro,

You make my day!

Quiet for me too due to CNY holidays, energy ($ and body) level low as well.

I know exactly what u mean.

Cooling off period, be it for a purchase or for a GF, is a good thing from the buyer perspective.

I have experienced that in a sudden rush of strong feelings for a gal, that despite the rapidly thinning wallet..............(mom sick, brother need school fees, family want to move house because cannot stand the brother and his wife, want to rent a better place etc etc). Half the time it is true but the extent was exaggerated 2x/3x/10x.

So, cool off, go to another KTV joint, pick a couple of gals that looks good to my eyes, and once the same sob stories flows, then I wake up. Hahaha................


Hi bro,

Thanks for ur sound advice.

Cheers!

.................................................

Good afternoon,

Recently, several long lost bros hv asked what I'm up to. Really nothing much, same old same old.

Currently I hv 2 long term mistresses whose pussies hv proven safe n exclusive to me.

Additionally, I connected w/ a new gal NN recently who appeared very attractive. She refused ST, so I offered her BY which she accepted. She turned out to be a very good fxk n she squirted copiously. Later she mounted me n went wild...but it will not be a long term RS as she is not young enough for me haha.

I also met a sexy gal KB in a lift at PC. She was going to DC 2ndFL. She has agreed to ST haha. She mentioned that she will be going to work at TAM complex.

Lately I hv had more success w/ giving squirting orgasms. The strategy is to get the gal to relax completely. She has to trust u n feel very safe w/ u. Stimulate the G spot n clit simultaneously if possible. If u do it right, squirting will occur within 10-15 minutes or sooner. Then give her penetrative vaginal orgasm...

It's not much of a challenge to do ST or BY a pretty gal of ur type. The real challenge is to get her deeply addicted to u, emotionally n sexually.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[warbird]

Good evening!

Yesterday I received the following email re 3 terrible social habits which we all hv to a varying degree.

These are signs of deep rooted insecurities and inferiority complex.


3 SELFISH SOCIAL HABITS TO AVOID

Today I'm going to share with you something that's going to seem
VERY basic on the surface--almost bare-bones.

But even though we may understand the fundamental basics of what
I'm going to talk about at the instinctive gut-felt level,
relatively few guys walking this Earth really get it right in
real-world interactions with others--men OR women.

Here's the thing: Even though we know we should always GIVE more
than we TAKE during the course of social interactions, a shocking
number of guys in particular just can't seem to help
themselves...they've just GOT to be at least a little selfish.

And that's disastrous because coming off as selfish in social
situations means you might as well beat your chest and blatantly
proclaim your neediness to everyone around you.

Even subtle self-serving indications cause others to find someone
more important to talk to--in droves.

Here are three areas were MASSIVE faux pas tend to occur:



1) Braggadocio


Years ago a country preacher named Jim Rayburn said, "People don't
care how much you know until they know how much you care." Truer
words have never been spoken.

Believe me when I tell you that nothing in this whole wide world is
more BORING to a listener than being asked to endure your endless
droning on about how excellent you are.

Yes, I understand the temptation to expedite the process by which
the whole world is aware of your many exploits and accomplishments.

But you'll most certainly enjoy more warmly felt accolades from a
wider cross-section of your social circle if you let SOMEONE ELSE
tell the stories.

Give them room to be amazed on their own. It'll work out better
for you in the long run...I promise.



2) Showing Off


Do you feel the need to demonstrate to people how good you are at
stuff?

And what if someone else shows some talent? Must you really hog
the spotlight and prove to everyone around you how your prowess
exceeds that of the other person?

If you answered "yes" to any of those questions, you're absolutely,
positively coming off as LESS cool to everyone you know than you
think.

In other words, you're a douche. By definition.

Don't be that guy. Go ahead and celebrate someone else getting a
bit of recognition in the moment. The time will come--perhaps in
the next friggin' five minutes, if you can just hold your
horses--when someone else will acknowledge your talents as well.

And even if that DOESN'T come to pass, rest assured that your quiet
resolve to remain cooler than any other needy guys around you will
ALWAYS pay rich dividends in the long run.



3) Offering Unsolicited Advice


I have to tell you that this is by FAR the toughest one for me to
avoid personally.

After all, I see guys all around me BLOWING it with women all the
time. All. The. Time.

But life experience has told me that I can throw down the most
smokin' dating tips in the world to someone who did NOT ask me for
them and they'll go 100% unheeded. In fact, I'll probably be
resented for offering to help.

Don't be fooled. When you try to give advice to someone who didn't
ask for it, it's only going to bug them to no end that you opened
your big mouth.

Amazingly, you can even preface unsolicited advice in any way you
want--including humility and/or a straightforward acknowledgment
that you already realize you're being obnoxious--and it will yet be
met with indifference, if not utter hostility.

Come to think of it, I reconnected with an old friend from high
school on Facebook recently. The first thing he did was ask me if
I was married and how many kids I had. The next thing he did was
offer unsolicited marriage and parenting advice.

I'm realizing as I'm typing this that I haven't bothered to chat
with him again since. What I'm telling you is no joke.

The only viable exception to the rule of withholding unsolicited
advice is when it's truly a matter of life and death. If someone
is about to do something mortally stupid and you know better, then
it's definitely time to step in. Who cares how you look socially
in that case, right?

Bragging, showing off and unsolicited advice are all under the same
umbrella, actually...and it's all about lack of empathy and lack of
concern for others (in other words, selfishness).

So how about it? Can you bite your tongue when it comes to social
selfishness and lead others to feel comfortable talking about
themselves instead?

It may take some serious doing at first, but as you get used to it
I'm positive you'll find that others around you--perhaps
ironically--find you to be a FAR more interesting person.


Be Good,

Your Guru

[warbird]

Good afternoon!


Yesterday a guru from Gotham sent me a brief article which brought back some fond memories w/ my lao po WH, my 1st mistress.


After knowing WH for 4 months, she finally agreed to hv dinner w/ me to discuss how I could take care of her, in Jan of 2009. I waited in a roadside food stall for over 30 min. She was 21 then n looked prettier n sexier than when I last saw her 3 1/2 months earlier...I asked her if she had a BF, she said currently no, 不过很多人追我. I was a newbie then n was slightly discouraged. Luckily for me, I didn't misinterpret her intention. I now know that she was trying to increase her value in my eyes. That was because she liked me and hoped that I would like her.


To make a long story short, I BY-ed her very briefly twice in 2009...then had had little ctc w/ her until 2 yrs ago when she asked me to BY her. BTW, she is still w/ me.




WHAT TO DO WHEN SHE TELLS YOU HOW MANY GUYS WANT HER



One thing I've noticed is how quick most guys are to completely
dismiss their chances with certain women. It's as if they're
literally looking for an excuse to bail out.

Indeed, for years I've been talking about how the "Too Good To Be
True Factor" influences so many of us, such that we tend to talk
ourselves out of success with women before even giving them a
chance to form their own opinion on the matter.

Because success is so hard to imagine as reality, we automatically
assume it CAN'T happen. Therefore, we sort of sabotage things in a
very real way just to make sure we're right about that.

Pretty sick, isn't it?

But sometimes we as guys will even go so far as to interpret
POSITIVE signs as NEGATIVES. These cases, of course, really are
the most tragic ones because the woman herself is left wondering
what the heck just happened.

Basically, both people lose out on getting to know each other...even
though they actually WANTED that to happen. He makes a wholly
incorrect assumption, and she ends up feeling "rejected".

Man, what a tangled web we weave, huh?

Today I'm going to give you a primo example of an indicator of
solid interest that I'd say MOST guys misinterpret as a put-off.

That's when a woman starts telling you how many guys she has
interested in her. Even if--make that ESPECIALLY if--she makes it a
point to do so.

Just to clear the air up front, I'll be the first to throw on the
table that it's a MISTAKE for a woman to do that. I mean, it's a
BAD IDEA for anyone--woman OR man--to say or do ANYTHING that's
likely to be misconstrued socially.

But rest assured nonetheless, women really have NO IDEA that you're
taking such statements as code for, "Hey, get lost...I have enough
guys trying to hit on me already. They'll never get anywhere, and
you won't either."

Unless she's as overtly blunt and negative about the matter as in
the example above you should open your eyes to a potentially
different interpretation of what she's saying...a RADICALLY different
one, and more likely the INTENDED one.

You see, it's overwhelmingly probable that she's actually bringing
the matter to your attention in an attempt to INCREASE HER VALUE in
your eyes.

That's because she LIKES YOU and hopes you'll LIKE HER.

Let me illustrate this for you.

If you're from the US or the UK and have ever rented a car
elsewhere (e.g. Europe, the Pacific Rim or the Middle East) you'll
quickly notice something as you try to find familiar music on the
radio dial.

People in non-English speaking countries really do LOVE American
and British pop music.

BUT...they're about six months to a year behind. And when they
decide they like a particular song they REALLY, REALLY like it.

Welp, for better or worse it would appear the French and the
Spaniards have just discovered "Call Me Maybe" by Carli Rae Jepson.

Good God Man. We couldn't avoid that shiznit for 2000 miles worth
of roadtripping through southern Europe a couple of weeks ago.

Between that, "Gangnam Style", some Justin Bieber song and "Scream
& Shout" you'd be led to believe these stations have a four song
rotation...at least until they break stride with three songs by Bruno
Mars in a row, invariably punctuated by "Someone Like You" by
Adele. Geez.

OK, so making lemonade out of lemons I did make one interesting
observation. Check out this lyric from what's an otherwise
completely worthless, overproduced pop monstrosity with a
completely incongruous flow to it:




"And all the other boys try to chase me, but here's my number...so

call me, maybe?"



Aha...see that? The girl clearly likes the guy...a LOT. And before
giving him her number, she drops EXACTLY the kind of line I'm
talking about here.

Rhetorically speaking, it goes without saying that she's NOT hoping
the guy "gets lost".

So like other women who would have us know how popular they are
with other dudes, she's attempting to tap into the power of
perceived social proof to gain approval from him also.

You know, just in case he isn't yet in the fold with those who
quickly adore her.

Can you see how that's working there?

After all, as all good salespeople know "people buy on the approval
of others".

Following logically, you can now see that it's all nothing more
than good old-fashioned approval seeking.

Yes...the ill-advised type that tends to make people look needy or
even desperate when overplayed.

There you have another reason why women probably shouldn't play
that particular card.

But alas, they do. And they sure LOVE to, don't they?

Well, from now on you'll know what she's REALLY trying to tell you
when that happens.


Be Good,


Mr Guru

[besafe]

Hi bro WB,
You keep talking about giving your ladies great orgasm.
Have you seen this vid?
Are your ladies like this?
http://video.xnxx.com/video3999118/cute_hina_maeda_squirts

[FruityFruit]

After all, as all good salespeople know "people buy on the approval
of others".


Agreed warbird. Interesting share :)

[warbird]

Hi bro WB,
You keep talking about giving your ladies great orgasm.
Have you seen this vid?
Are your ladies like this?
http://video.xnxx.com/video3999118/cute_hina_maeda_squirts

Hi bro besafe,

I clicked on the link and "the page cannot be opened."

Could u pls provide another link for what must be explosive, earth-shaking, continuous orgasms. But some of these orgasms could be staged or fake.

Yes, giving women intense, screaming orgasms regularly is one of the keys to getting them addicted to a man.

Cheers!

Agreed warbird. Interesting share :)

Hi bro,

Life is so interesting n exciting, isn't it?

Cheers!

Bro WB

[LovePotion]

nowsadays... difficult to see female really orgasm.. or fake orgasm...

[Bigbluebird]

This thread is a treasure trove of knowledge! :D

[warbird]

nowsadays... difficult to see female really orgasm.. or fake orgasm...

Hi bro,

I don't hv time right now to discuss this most interesting subject. IMHO, it's not difficult to detect fake orgasm, which is a big turn off for me.

This thread is a treasure trove of knowledge! :D

Ths for reading. Don't forget to post ur FRs. I hv learnt a lot from every bro here.

.................................................

Good morning!

My return to Gotham City is imminent. I hv already sent my long term mistresses back to their respective hometowns. TH will stay in SG n since I don't give her anything while I'm away, I don't care if she finds another BF...

There is a subject which has fascinated me:

DGAD Attitude.


This is what attracts women, THE one secret that makes 'Bad Boy' or BB so successful n addictive to women. We should hv this attitude ingrained in our subconscious mind n we must jettison all the other obnoxious n negative attributes of a BB. Then we can beat a BB at his own game hahaha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[NotMyRealName]

My return to Gotham City is imminent. I hv already sent my long term mistresses back to their respective hometowns. TH will stay in SG n since I don't give her anything while I'm away, I don't care if she finds another BF...

There is a subject which has fascinated me:

DGAD Attitude.

This is what attracts women, THE one secret that makes 'Bad Boy' or BB so successful n addictive to women. We should hv this attitude ingrained in our subconscious mind n we must jettison all the other obnoxious n negative attributes of a BB. Then we can beat a BB at his own game hahaha.

Bro WB
Looking forward to your return and fun outings.

DGAD, well for me, at least, it's sometimes being busy with work and ignore or decline my GF asking me to accompany her, which she interprets as I don't care enough. Well, since it's perceived that way, might as well use it to my advantage. And the sometime hot and sometime cold attitude makes her miserable and confusing and yet probably in her subconscious meant that I'm not controllable by her which makes her wants to meet me more. But, give too long the fishing string and she may then be turned off. It's an art that I've not master, but I don't care enough about any girl (i'm heartless and lungless 没心没肺 by all my ex-gfs) to GAD.

Hope that WB sifu and other seniors share their thoughts.

These days, I'm preparing to plot my route to have longer stays in China, i.e. hoped to be sent to station there but with frequent travel back to SG.

[PowerTAN_P_W]

Looking forward to your return and fun outings.

DGAD, well for me, at least, it's sometimes being busy with work and ignore or decline my GF asking me to accompany her, which she interprets as I don't care enough. Well, since it's perceived that way, might as well use it to my advantage. And the sometime hot and sometime cold attitude makes her miserable and confusing and yet probably in her subconscious meant that I'm not controllable by her which makes her wants to meet me more. But, give too long the fishing string and she may then be turned off. It's an art that I've not master, but I don't care enough about any girl (i'm heartless and lungless 没心没肺 by all my ex-gfs) to GAD.

Hope that WB sifu and other seniors share their thoughts.

These days, I'm preparing to plot my route to have longer stays in China, i.e. hoped to be sent to station there but with frequent travel back to SG.

DGAD? looks interesting to Power Tan. maybe i will try it out and see one day.

Rgds,
Ah Wee

[chenzong]

My return to Gotham City is imminent.
Bro WB

Will this be a long term return or just a short while?

[warbird]

Looking forward to your return and fun outings.

DGAD, well for me, at least................................And the sometime hot and sometime cold attitude ........................
These days, I'm preparing to plot my route to have longer stays in China, i.e. hoped to be sent to station there but with frequent travel back to SG.

Hi bro NotMyRealName,

Yes, you should not GAD what ur dream girl thinks of u or what others think of u...you will hv an unfair advantage over her other suitors.

Combine that attitude w/ various push pull strategies to evoke strong emotions in her. Last but not least, give her prolonged earth shaking orgasms regularly. Before long she will be addicted to u hahaha.

Where will u be in China? I'll need ur help to audition some gals for me.

Cheers!

DGAD? looks interesting to Power Tan. maybe i will try it out and see one day.

Rgds,
Ah Wee

Hi bro,

It's an attitude you should hv for the rest of ur life.

Will this be a long term return or just a short while?

Hi bro chenzong,

I'll return to SG next month.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[NotMyRealName]

Hi bro NotMyRealName,

Where will u be in China? I'll need ur help to audition some gals for me.

Bro WB

I'll be going Shanghai. Maybe drop by to ShenZhen.

[warbird]

I'll be going Shanghai. Maybe drop by to ShenZhen.

Hi bro,

Have a great time.

.................................................. .............................................

Good morning!

Two of my mistresses and several potential GFs hv seen the new movie 北京遇上西雅图 (2013) n they love the movie, love the 2 protagonists n, best of all, they love Seattle.

The story is abt a non-WL who was BY-ed by a rich crook (who later went to jail) in Beijing. She came to Seattle to give birth. There she met a former heart specialist Frank from Beijing who was down on his luck n was working as a chauffeur...thank God he wasn't formerly from Singapore!! BTW, he is an old uncle...

All my gals want to come to Seattle to be w/ me NOW hahaha. They want to stay as long as I want them to. I said definitely, but later...

Seattle is a romantic city. It's scenic n air quality is very good, unlike Beijing.

Here is a review of the movie: http://baike.baidu.com/view/9804845.htm

I'll try to watch it. My lao po said she would like to watch it again w/ me. I think it's not available yet in SG.

Has any bros seen the movie? Your comments?

Cheers!

Bro WB

[hehehaha]

Re: Kakis Invited for KTV Outings to Find " Very Attractive Gals"
Had anyone watched Sleepless in Seattle? I remembered there was something about it may rain up to nine months of the year.

Since then, I never had good impression of Seattle, since I can't stand the rainning days in Singapore, had never thought of visiting another place that rain more than Singapore.

So, 1 question about Seattle, does it rain a lot? :rolleyes:

[warbird]

Re: Kakis Invited for KTV Outings to Find " Very Attractive Gals"
Had anyone watched Sleepless in Seattle? I remembered there was something about it may rain up to nine months of the year.

Since then, I never had good impression of Seattle, since I can't stand the rainning days in Singapore, had never thought of visiting another place that rain more than Singapore.

So, 1 question about Seattle, does it rain a lot? :rolleyes:

Dear bro,

No, it doesn't.

The wide held belief that Seattle is a very rainy city is a myth, but one that Seattleites want to perpetuate. Why? The city is too nice and clean and they don't want too many outsiders to pollute it, hahaha.

There r many cloudy days and it often drizzles, but the average annual rainfall is less than half of that in SG. It ranks 44th among major cities in the US, behind New York, Houston, Boston, etc. Less than Tokyo and Shanghai.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=349393

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/04/seattle-doesnt-get-that-much-rain/

Cheers!

Bro WB

[warbird]

Good morning!

Where in SG can I find my type of girls??

年青貌美的女孩子, 年龄在18岁-24岁之间，身高在163cm-173cm.

一定要身材匀称, 皮肤细腻白皙, 乳房丰满（最少有B），手细腿长，臀部又圆润又翘。 有大专水平最好.

Must be non-smoker. Of course no big scars, tattoos, plastic surgeries, pregnancies...

That is for outward appearance only. I hv other requirements when she is stark naked n for her pussy...

I leave no stone unturned in my search. Anyone to intro?

Let's talk about another topic.

I know we all feel insecure and/or unattractive to women/girls of our type if we r too ugly, too short, too tall, too fat, too thin, too old, too poor, undereducated, from a different ethnic group, different creed...

That is most unfortunate. We don't fully understand what women want...

Here is a brief discussion written by a noted Ang Moh guru.

What Women REALLY Want In A Man‏

Hey Bro Warbird,

.. WHAT DO WOMEN REALLY WANT IN A MAN?

Here's a short list for you.

Women really want:

- A guy who is taller than them.

- A guy who can provide for their future.

- A guy who is great in bed.

- A guy who can make them laugh.

Etc.

Sound familiar?

Well, I've got news for you: NONE OF THESE
THINGS ARE WHAT WOMEN ACTUALLY WANT.

Of course, a guy who has these qualities may
find it easier to get an AUDITION with a woman -
but ONLY an audition.

It's not the deciding factor.

Think about it! How many examples can you think
of, for EACH of these qualities, where a guy has
that desirable quality, BUT STILL STRUGGLES WITH
WOMEN?

Yes, women prefer men who are taller than them.
But does this mean that tall men automatically
find it easy to get women?

Uh-uh.

How about rich men? Do the owners of companies
and apartment buildings find themselves swarmed
over by women the moment they make their first
million? Do they find it easy to get sex, a
girlfriend, or a wife, just because they're rich?

Nope.

I don't know any guys who are great in bed (for
reasons that should be obvious to you), but I know
that if a guy can't ATTRACT a woman, she's never
going to be able to find out whether he can make
it between the sheets or not.

And guys who can make women laugh don't
necessarily have success with women, either. In
fact, many guys use jokes and humor as a way to
get female attention, only to have that woman
laugh along with them ... and then categorize them
as a FRIEND.

Ouch.

So what's going on here? Why are women so
confusing?

They SAY they like tall guys. They SAY they
want a man who can make them laugh. And they ALL
say they want a man with a good sense of humor,
who is also sensitive and considerate.

So what's the story? Why is it that so many
men, with some, if not ALL, of these desirable
qualities - men who would probably make fantastic
lovers, boyfriends, and husbands - are waking up
alone every morning?

It's because women are actually not that good
at figuring out what they want.

That's why.

And hey - it's not just WOMEN who have this
problem. EVERYONE does it. Studies have shown that
humans, as a general rule, almost ALWAYS
significantly overestimate how happy something is
going to make them.

In other words, it's been scientifically proven
that WOMEN DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.

They know what they THINK they want - which is
why your female friends and sisters are so happy
to tell you what the qualities of The Ideal Man
would be - but that's not the same as what they
ACTUALLY want.

Another way of saying this might be that they
can't tell you the qualities that they ACTUALLY
find attractive in a man.

Here's the deal: all the tallness and humor in
the world is NEVER going to help you, unless you
know HOW TO MAKE WOMEN FEEL ATTRACTION.

That's it. That's the ONLY key.

You need to be able to know how to trigger that
magical feeling of ATTRACTION in a woman.

And then you know what else? When you know how
to do that, things like height, looks, and money
NO LONGER MATTER.

For example, I've got a couple of friends who
are pretty short, by most people's standards.
One's about 5'5", the other's about 5'3".

That's not tall by ANYBODY'S standards. Not
even Japanese women.

These men are perfectly aware that many women
believe they want a tall man. (Notice how I said
"BELIEVE they want"?) But they have BOTH come to
the conclusion, through their own personal
research "in the field" that their height only
becomes a problem if they allow it to affect their
confidence.

One of them phrased it like this: "It's not the
shortness that's the problem. It's the LACK OF
CONFIDENCE that the shortness produces in the man
that's the problem."

He knows that he is one cool dude, and that he
could very well represent the best experience that
a woman will EVER have. And so he decided not to
let his shortness hamper him.

Now, whenever he's talking to an attractive
woman who is also taller than him, he'll throw
something out there like, "So, I see that you're
tall. Gee. (pause pause pause for effect) So does
that make it hard to, like, buy shoes? Do you find
that, being so tall, your long long feet won't fit
into all the pretty little girly shoes out there?"

... and he just roughs them up.

But here's the catch: he does it in THE MOST
CHARMING WAY.

Incidentally, due to the ease with which you
can misconstrue the written word, I feel compelled
to point out here that he always says this kind of
stuff with a BIIIG cheeky grin ... and makes it VERY
clear that he's 'just kidding' (without actually
coming out and SAYING so) ...

... so that she knows he's giving her a hard time
on purpose, and not just being a rude knucklehead.


(If you've ever tried teasing a woman, you'll
know that the risk involved is directly
proportionate to how expressionless you are, and
how little you know the woman.)

But I digress ...

The point here is that these men are LIVING
EXAMPLES of my point, which is that:

a) Women don't really know what they want

b) If you can make her feel ATTRACTION, she
will forget any preconceived notions of what she
THOUGHT she wanted, and will go with what works

c) It's up to YOU to SHOW HER what she wants.
You can bet that none of the women those 2 friends
of mine hook up with woke up in the morning and
thought, "Gosh, I sure hope I hook up with a short
guy tonight!" Nope, they THOUGHT they wanted a
tall guy ... RIGHT UP UNTIL THE MOMENT THEY WERE
PROVED WRONG.

So if you know how to make a woman feel
attraction, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

And fortunately, there are tried and true,
PROVEN patterns of behavior, body language, and
speech that appeal to women and flick their
attraction switches.

Briefly:

1. The body language that women find attractive
is the body language of an alpha male: cool, calm,
confident, and in control. (Hint: body language
supersedes the spoken word by about a million
percent in terms of how it demonstrates your
value. It doesn't matter what you SAY, unless your
body language backs it up.)

2. Speech: use a deep and resonant voice, and
speak SLOWLY. Inserting pauses into your speech is
an extremely effective way to sound confident and
interesting, NO MATTER WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
Speaking too fast is a sign of a deep lack of
self-confidence (you talk fast out of a fear the
other person will lose interest, basically.)
Speaking slooooowly, and inserting a pause of 1
second (a count of ONE-one-thousand) between TWO
and FIVE TIMES PER SENTENCE is ideal.

3. Behavior: well, this one's more complex.
I'll start by saying that all of your behaviors
should demonstrate high social value. The more
PASSIONATE and CONFIDENT you are (passionate, in
this context, meaning INTERESTED in whatever it is
you're talking about or doing) the higher your
value. The less supplicative and needy you are,
and the more impervious to other people's opinions
you seem, the higher your value. Self-referenced
(as opposed to externally referenced) men are HIGH
VALUE.

Learning how to create attraction is the MECCA
of success with women. It is the all-embracing
recipe for mind-blowing and CONSISTENT success. It
is something that all men want to learn ... but very
few do.

This isn't because men are dumb, or because the
information is difficult to grasp. In fact, it's
actually very EASY once you figure out what to do.

And once you've mastered THAT, you can move on
to the more advanced stuff:


I'll talk to you again soon.

Your friend,

Mr. Guru







I like to add that:

Hope X Uncertainty = Attraction (Passion)

Therefore, no Hope, zero Attraction. No uncertainty, zero attraction.

Big Hope and lots of Uncertainty = Massive Attraction?

Cheers!

Bro WB

[ahpui99]

Thanks warbird


Been closely following your posts. You are the man

[merrygoround]

great sharing warbird bro..

[ahpui99]

Hi Guys,

I send a PM to warbird to show my appreciation for his insights. Just wanted to share with you guys that I have been sending extracts of his articles to my friends. Even seasoned bros are speechless how good he is.

Have I been KCed before? Yes, be it singapore or china. Luck saved me previously but cannot always depend on it.

Certain articles like maintaining self- control and the important DGAD attitude allows us to play without screwing up your mind. I still am trying to figure out how to make the girls addicted to me. Haha.

Bro, hope your insights are either blogged or can be searched. Cos i really learned a lot. Quit smoking recently so my mind is not as strong as it used to be.

[NotMyRealName]

Hi Guys,

I send a PM to warbird to show my appreciation for his insights. Just wanted to share with you guys that I have been sending extracts of his articles to my friends. Even seasoned bros are speechless how good he is.

Have I been KCed before? Yes, be it singapore or china. Luck saved me previously but cannot always depend on it.

Certain articles like maintaining self- control and the important DGAD attitude allows us to play without screwing up your mind. I still am trying to figure out how to make the girls addicted to me. Haha.

Bro, hope your insights are either blogged or can be searched. Cos i really learned a lot. Quit smoking recently so my mind is not as strong as it used to be.

Yeah, bro WB and others have shared their experiences, it's good to learn from each other since the girls also learn from each other (from relatives - 表姐妹堂姐妹，好朋友etc). I usually don't try those girls who has their close relatives or good friends here in Singapore because they always consult and come back with more thought-out demands or tests. hehe.

If you can share your experiences, others will take their lessons learnt from it too.

Don't try too hard on any particular girl. After you try your chances on others, your chances go up. You keep trying one, your chances goes low very fast, as the girl don't like clingy guy, or they like to milk clingy guy while they look around.

[ahpui99]

Yeah, bro WB and others have shared their experiences, it's good to learn from each other since the girls also learn from each other (from relatives - 表姐妹堂姐妹，好朋友etc). I usually don't try those girls who has their close relatives or good friends here in Singapore because they always consult and come back with more thought-out demands or tests. hehe.

If you can share your experiences, others will take their lessons learnt from it too.

Don't try too hard on any particular girl. After you try your chances on others, your chances go up. You keep trying one, your chances goes low very fast, as the girl don't like clingy guy, or they like to milk clingy guy while they look around.

I agree on the clingy part. Been guilty before or have seen bros who did the same.

Think when i bo chap the girl, she starts calling. When i try to be nice, she take me for granted.
it is a tough playground we are in

[warbird]

Thanks warbird


Been closely following your posts. You are the man

Thanks for ur support.

great sharing warbird bro..

Pleasure is all mine.

Hi Guys,

I send a PM to warbird to show my appreciation for his insights. Just wanted to share with you guys that I have been sending extracts of his articles to my friends. Even seasoned bros are speechless how good he is.

Have I been KCed before? Yes, be it singapore or china. Luck saved me previously but cannot always depend on it.

Certain articles like maintaining self- control and the important DGAD attitude allows us to play without screwing up your mind. I still am trying to figure out how to make the girls addicted to me. Haha.

Bro, hope your insights are either blogged or can be searched. Cos i really learned a lot. Quit smoking recently so my mind is not as strong as it used to be.

Hi bro ahpui99,

Your flattering words make me speechless...

You're spot on. Self control and DGAD attitude is THE SECRET that separates the men from the boys.

Making girls emotionally and sexually addicted is a arduous process. Be careful, don't get addicted yourself.

yeah true...learn a lot

I hv learnt a lot too.

.................................................. ..

Good morning!

"It's not the shortness that's the problem. It's the LACK OF
CONFIDENCE that the shortness produces in the man
that's the problem."

Put in another way, It's not 'shortness' or any other self perceived shortcomings (in looks, weight, age, physical defects, educational level, intelligence, financial and social status, ethnic group, creed, nationality, etc) that's the problem. It's the lack of confidence that the self perceived shortcoming produces in the man that's the problem.

The big scar between actor Joaquin Phoenix's lip and nose is obvious. Many men w/ such defect will be shy and withdrawn.That would be a big problem.

Take a look at two other celebrities: Nick Vujicic n Sean Stephenson. Quite amazing.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[warbird]

Good morning!

I received an e-mail from a RS guru yesterday. Although the topic is not directly related to this thread, it's a problem many of us will face, sooner or later. It's a situation which may arise in any long-term male-female RS, whether the gal/woman is a spouse, GF, lao po or mistress, etc.

"What To Do If You Get A Girlfriend But "The Grass Is Greener" Elsewhere‏"

Mr Guru,

I need to ask you a question.

I am in a VERY happy relationship. I am going to get engaged very
soon. But in my day-to-day encounters I do work with or interact
with attractive and cool women.

Since I work in a large group, there are some people at my
workplace that I don't see on a daily basis but enough to have
regular conversations.

I have an ongoing dilemma on how to deal with particular women at
work.

Take for example a girl named Christina I work with.

She is super cool and very attractive. But if I continue to
interact with her, inevitably I will end up wanting to get to know
her more, get a big crush on her, and maybe even starting thinking,
"Man, the grass might be greener here."

Maybe this is just a man's tendency to want variety. As I said, I
love my g/f dearly, so it's not secondary to unhappiness with my g/f.

So I can pursue a stronger friendship / more interaction with
Christina at work, because I am physically and personality wise
attracted to her...but at risk of torturing myself since I will
fall for her but not do anything about it (the ultimate masochism).

Or worst-case scenario I'll fall for her so hard that I compromise
my relationship with my g/f.

This Christina girl is just one example....as there have been many
Christinas in the past who I usually end up AVOIDING to not create
drama in my life.

What do you think?


XX (Chicago, IL)



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Thanks for the great e-mail, Bro XX.

So why is it that women named "Christina" always seem to be hotties?

Here's the cold hard fact of the matter: If you are still gazing
at "greener pastures", you're either not ready to get married
because there is more left to be done in your dating life, more
deep-thinking ahead first, or because you *could* be settling.

I hear you telling me that you have a great relationship with a
woman whom you intend to marry, and that you couldn't be happier.

And I greatly admire your discipline with regard to not wanting to
compromise that relationship in any way. Big ups for that.

But YOUR genuine concern over the possibility of being drawn away
by another woman concerns ME also.

Taking your message to me at face value, I'm pretty sure that if
you were able to make the "Christinas" of the world a "non-issue",
then you would be an even happier man than you may now even realize
is possible.

Some will be quick to say this is an "unrealistic" explanation.

But much like, "you can never understand women", such is the battle
cry of those who SETTLE.

When you've met the one who wins your heart forever, other women
will melt into the background insofar as any real desire for
romantic involvement is concerned.

Hang with me here and I'll show you what I mean by that.

This does NOT mean that no other women are ever going to be
attractive or endearing to you ever again. And you *can* acquire the
skill set of enjoying femininity without requiring sexual
fulfillment to come from it, by the way.

(And that is REALLY COOL, opening the doors wide-open to GREATLY
ENHANCED day-to-day interactions.)

What it DOES mean is that you never, EVER second-guess the decision
you made to be with one woman, because you always keep the
perspective of having been through the dating process and having
made your decision from a position of ABSOLUTE STRENGTH and a
WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE.

The greatest woman you've ever met--your "100 out of 100"--will
literally COMPEL you to cut ties with the other women you've been
seeing until then.

No kidding, man. I wouldn't have believed it myself five years ago.

And there's no compromise when that happens. No "giving away your
manhood", "sacrificing your freedom" or anything negative at all,
really. It will have been YOUR decision...and a GOOD one.

And you'll be able to tuck away that definitive notion for safe
keeping over the long-haul, no matter how many hotties catch your
eye over the years to come.

I have to be honest with you here though Bro XX.

My first thought after reading your message was that if you REALLY
believe Christina might possibly be the kind of woman who could be
better for you than your current girlfriend, then perhaps you
haven't "raised the bar" high enough just yet as far as the person
you are going to spend the rest of your life with successfully.

If that doesn't resonate with you, and you are indeed firmly
convinced that your current girlfriend is the greatest woman you've
ever met, then so be it.

Nonetheless, If you ARE second guessing yourself on the possibility
of being sexually drawn to other women such that it would
compromise your current relationship, it's time for some hard
consideration.

The questions to ask yourself include:


1) Are you comparing your girlfriend to someone you don't know as
well?

This is always a loser of an idea. There's too much opportunity
for idealism there. I can't tell you how many guys blow a
long-term relationship for a fling with a new chick only to wonder
what they've done when she quickly falls short of expectations as
he "gets to know her better".



2) Have you really dated enough women to know EXACTLY who you're
looking for?

Your girlfriend MAY BE the greatest woman in the world for you.
But unless you have a firm grasp of what you want, you'll never
really know if you've found it.



3) Is it YOUR DECISION to get married?

Do you WANT to get married, or do you simply fear losing a great
woman? Are you DONE dating, or does the timing feel a bit premature?



Please know that you may indeed be able to resolve all of these
questions VERY successfully vis-à-vis your current relationship.

If so, I imagine your resolve will be rock-solid going forward.

If not, you may be frustrated now (as may she), but take it from
the guy who has been in front of a judge before and paid the
divorce lawyer richly for my trouble.

It's like the old Fram Oil Filter commercial: "You can pay now, or
you can pay later".


Be Good,

Mr Guru

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Hi Gang,

Think twice before u get hitched. Never settle for a girl/woman out of pity, family pressure or obligations. Never ever settle period.

Mr Guru is a puritan! I hv a spouse, a long-term mistress n I still do shorter term BYs n eat outside regularly haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[KhunnTey]

this thread is HAPPENING! :eek:

[deathnitez]

Good morning!

Hi Gang,

Think twice before u get hitched. Never settle for a girl/woman out of pity, family pressure or obligations. Never ever settle period.

Mr Guru is a puritan! I hv a spouse, a long-term mistress n I still do shorter term BYs n eat outside regularly haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

This phrase i agreed never ever settle down with a girl out of pity or family pressure etc :cool:

[saabking]

Hi bro,

Have a great time.

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Good morning!

Two of my mistresses and several potential GFs hv seen the new movie 北京遇上西雅图 (2013) n they love the movie, love the 2 protagonists n, best of all, they love Seattle.


Seattle is a romantic city. It's scenic n air quality is very good, unlike Beijing.

Here is a review of the movie: http://baike.baidu.com/view/9804845.htm

I'll try to watch it. My lao po said she would like to watch it again w/ me. I think it's not available yet in SG.

Has any bros seen the movie? Your comments?

Cheers!

Bro WB

The movie is a bit draggy - 2hrs...the exciting part was the Croc Hermes on X'mas Eve. :D

But I think the Tiong can really relate to the story and the whole the grass is greener on the other side as well as the Seattle romantic city, great American dream myth.

Just my two cents worth.

[Ladyrain]

This phrase i agreed never ever settle down with a girl out of pity or family pressure etc :cool:

Never ever settle for anything less.
Period.

[warbird]

This phrase i agreed never ever settle down with a girl out of pity or family pressure etc :cool:

Also, never ever settle for less than you deserve because you're afraid that nothing better will come along.

The movie is a bit draggy - 2hrs...the exciting part was the Croc Hermes on X'mas Eve. :D

But I think the Tiong can really relate to the story and the whole the grass is greener on the other side as well as the Seattle romantic city, great American dream myth.

Just my two cents worth.

Thanks for sharing ur review.

Never ever settle for anything less.
Period.

I couldn't agree w/ u more.

“The only real failure in life is not to be true to the best one knows.”

Cheers!

Bro WB

[deathnitez]

Thanks WB like this 2 advice you give lol you the man lol

[warbird]

Thanks WB like this 2 advice you give lol you the man lol

Bro deathnitez,

You make my day!

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Good Afternoon!

I hv some musings on the subject of cheonging n BY-ing.

In the last 6 months I hv had difficulty maintaining an erection whenever I put on CD. I feel very little, even w/ the thinnest ones.

However, I hv had no problems at all when I do raw w/ my long term mistresses. As a result I hv done fewer ST or short term BY.

I suspect that many bros hv similar problem w/ CD.

A word of warning. Doing raw w/ any girl/woman carries some risks even if she is ur spouse. Sadly, over 50% of legal wives cheat. Nothing in this world is 100% foolproof. I do advise testing her n yourself w/ Oraquick for HIV every 2 months.

Your wife/spouse/mistress/GF/lover will be much less inclined to cheat if she is sexually addicted to u. And the best way to get her addicted is to give her regular penetrative vaginal orgasms PVOs. I hv alluded to this fact in the past.

A woman will feel empty n discontented if she doesn't experience regular PVOs, often w/o knowing the cause herself. It's all in her subconscious mind.

The other day I just received the following newsletter related to this vital subject from a guru..

I don't agree w/ the guru that it takes at least 20 min to give a woman PVOs. if you can prime the pump by giving her clitoral n/or G spot orgasms using ur fingers, tongue, etc. first, lasting 10 min is more than sufficient.

I also don't agree that if u can't get give ur woman regular PVOs she can never be really attracted to u. Or that she will never love or be addicted to u. In the short term, say a few yrs, she can be addicted to u n love u.

BUT, in longer term, she will lose her love or addiction for u IF you can't give her regular PVOs. It's a CERTAINTY.

Here is what he sent me:

Hi Bro Warbird,

Sex Secret # 1: Oral Sex Alone Is Never Enough To Truly Please A Woman!

A lot of guys think that going down on a girl is the best way to make her happy in bed.
I know, because I used to be one of these guys :)
But now, after having been with a whole lot of women, I can tell you that is absolutely FALSE.
Sure, girls like a guy who knows how to go down... but if you REALLY want to blow her mind, you've gotta first rock her BODY...
And the way to do that is through good ole' fashioned penetration sex!
You probably already know that women are biologically programmed to want penetration from a man... the same way we are programmed to want to penetrate a woman.
But what most guys DON'T know is this:

The orgasms a woman gets from penetration sex are literally TEN TIMES as intense and powerful as any orgasm she can get by any other means!

Ask any woman and she'll tell you... no tongue or vibrator will ever replace her craving to have a man inside of her.
But here's what's REALLY crazy...

Sex Secret #2: Women Don't Just LOVE Penetration Orgasms... They Actually Need Them!

Here's another CRAZY secret most guys don't know...
When you have sex with a woman, a special chemical is released in her brain that tells her whether or not you are a good mate.
I'm no scientist and I cannot spell the name :) but I do know the more of this chemical that is released, the more she becomes attracted to you.
If you ejaculate too quickly, her brain doesn't have time to register that she is having sex, and nothing happens.
On the other hand, if you last long enough to give her a penetration orgasm, her brain is literally FLOODED with this chemical!
She immediately becomes sexually addicted to you... and sees you as "the one" for her.
Women NEED this chemical in order to tell if a guy is the right mate... and if you can't give her a penetration orgasm, she's not gonna get it.
The next secret I had to learn the hard way...

Sex Secret # 3: If You CAN'T Give A Woman A Penetration Orgasm, She Can Never REALLY Be Attracted To You!

Because of this biological need a woman has for penetration orgasms... if a guy can't give her one, she begins to see him as less of a man.
This is ESPECIALLY TRUE if a guy she was with before you was good in bed...
When this happens, she starts to worry she is with the wrong man... and thinks about going back to her ex, or finding a new guy.
The BUMMER is that this happens no matter how perfect you are for her in every other way!
No matter how well your personalities click, and no matter how much fun you have together, if you're not giving a woman orgasms from actual penetration sex, her brain subconsciously tells her to find someone who will.
I learned this the hard way when a girl I was in love with cheated on me and then left me for another guy.
It wasn't until many years later I figured out what the problem was (I'll explain in a minute)... but first, get this...

Sex Secret # 4: Giving A Woman A Penetration Orgasm Can Actually Be Easy...

A lot of men make the mistake of thinking they need to be "huge", or know some kind of special technique to give a woman a penetration orgasm.
NOT TRUE.
All it takes is a firm, steady motion... and being able to last at least 20 minutes in bed.
It has NOTHING to do with your size, and your technique isn't that important either.
All that's important is that you can LAST LONG ENOUGH for her to have one!
Women aren't like us men. I know you've heard that women like a lot of foreplay. That's true. Because everything takes longer for a woman.
It takes longer for her to get warmed up and ready for sex... and it takes longer for her to get off.
Let me say this in a different way:
It doesn't take "tricks" to give your girl a penetration orgasm... but it does take TIME.
But... once you go the distance, it happens by itself!
I know what you're thinking. If you're like I used to be, lasting 20 minutes seems like an eternity in bed...
I used to be lucky if I lasted 2 minutes :) .................

Mr. Guru

[ahpui99]

Hello warbird


Thank you for your post。
What about foreplay? Is it part of the 20 mins?

Also this feeling is just from penetrative sex?

Cheers

[warbird]

Hello warbird

Thank you for your post。
What about foreplay? Is it part of the 20 mins?

Also this feeling is just from penetrative sex?

Cheers

Hi bro ahpui99,

No, foreplay is not part of the 20 min.

............................................

Good morning!

What is foreplay?

Some RS masters hv mentioned that 'foreplay' begins the second you meet the gal of ur type for the very first time n is a continuous process...

But for most men, foreplay begins inside the bedroom n includes hugging, touching, massaging, kissing n using the fingers, mouth n tongue to give the gal clitoral n g spot orgasms a few times. It will take abt 25-30 min. This should be followed by penetrative vaginal sex for 10-15 min, so that she will experience continuous orgasms. Longer than 20 min is not necessary.

While you r eating her pussy, you could use a finger to stimulate her ass. It will double her pleasure. You may also feel rhythmic contractions of her anal sphincters which is an objective sign of orgasm.

BTW, in a longer term RS, every healthy gal secretly wants u to eat her pussy n tickle her ass. Once she is comfortable w/ u playing her ass, you could easily do AJ on her, if u want to. I hv little interest in AJ though.

Regular PVOs is most satisfying physically, psychologically n emotionally for a gal/woman. There is no substitute in a long term RS, IMHO.

Your comments n criticisms will be appreciated.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[PowerTAN_P_W]

perhaps it's time for Power Tan to walk outside KTV and enjoy having all the pretty PRC ladies looking at me. :cool:

Rgds,
Ah Wee

[warbird]

perhaps it's time for Power Tan to walk outside KTV and enjoy having all the pretty PRC ladies looking at me. :cool:

Rgds,
Ah Wee

Bro, that is really cool!

Get them to keep talking to you while u LISTEN...

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Good morning!

Many men like to to talk about their accomplishments, possessions, status, wealth, power, sexual prowess, women, etc. Very bad idea. I hv been an offender too. Instead of talking, we should LISTEN n LISTEN.

The other day I received an e-mail on the subject 'How to Get Beautiful Women to Talk to You!'

Bro Warbird,

This simple secret changed my life forever.

And it transformed me from the loneliest man I've ever known to the man I am today

- with dozens of close friends, a powerful social network, and three gorgeous girlfriends (who I've been dating for years)... as well as other women, who come and go.

The secret is this:

Getting over your fear of starting a conversation and talking to people is the secret to having an active social life, tons of friends, action whenever you want it and the hottest girlfriend you can possibly imagine.

The "Stop Talking" Technique...

The secret to meeting people... getting over your fear of starting a conversations... and the secret to making people interested in you is simple:
You want to change your goal from impressing someone through talking to them, to letting them impress you, while you listen.

This seems very simple, but it's incredibly profound. Let me show you how it changes EVERYTHING:

Most people are stuck in lives they only kinda like.

Some people live lives they absolutely hate.

And for better or worse, most WOMEN feel very frustrated. They feel like nobody HEARS them. Or listens to them. Or understands them on a deep level.

However, when you start a conversation with a woman... what do you do?

You try to "talk her into submission!"

You tell her this amazing thing... or use this incredible line... or try to impress her with your confidence...

... While the whole time, SHE just wants to let off steam. And impress you with her amazing interests... incredible lines... and show you HER sexuality and confidence.

So you have this battle between two people who are both trying to "talk the other one into submission."

Really, truly, it's a mess. And it's a miracle people can talk to each other at all.

So next time you talk to a woman you like... or a guy you want to be friends with... you're simply gonna do this:

1) You're gonna start the conversation. This part is EASY. It's SIMPLE. You can say "Hi." You can say "Hey." You can say whatever you want. Your only goal is to get them to stop, make eye contact, and say "Hello" back to you.

2) Then instead of trying to talk them to death, you're going to say, "So, tell me a little about yourself. What do you like to do?"

3) And then you listen. You say, "Wow. That's interesting. Why do you like to do that?" You ask them questions. You listen. You nod when they say something.

And you add your own stories or insights when the time is right. But mostly, you just try to listen. You soak up all the information you can.

Then, after about two to five minutes, you have to make a decision: Do you want this person in your life or not?

If you say yes, you tell them, "Hey. I had a really nice time talking to you. I'm really glad I met you. We should hang out sometime. What's your number?"

And if you don't, you say, "Hey. Sorry to interrupt you, but I really have to run. It was great meeting you, and enjoy the rest of your day!"

This works because it's so unique. And because you get to choose whether or not you want this person in your life. Why be afraid of meeting new people when YOU'RE doing the choosing?

Why be scared when YOU decide where this relationship - or friendship - is going?

What's the risk? What do you have to lose?

Nothing.

And that's the secret.

When you make this shift in the way you talk to people, you can't lose. You can grab friends or girlfriends right off the street without risking rejection. Or risk saying the wrong thing. Or risk the fear wiping your mind clean of anything to say, before you get the words out of your mouth.

I truly believe this "Stop Talking" Technique is the most powerful thing I've ever learned about meeting new people.

So before I go any further, I want to give you a quick tip you can apply RIGHT now with women.

I want you to think of three questions you wish a woman would ask you about what kind of man you are.

Now translate these questions so they'd make sense if you asked a woman. In other words, ask women the questions you want them to ask you.

Let me give a couple examples.

I'm extremely passionate about my job, and I would love it if a woman asked me, "So what do you like best about your job?"

Now this would really get me talking.

I would say, "Well it's incredibly rewarding to see guys transform into better men right before my very eyes. I always feel a great sense of accomplishment and fulfillment every time a workshop comes to an end."

Now imagine if you asked a woman this same question!

Here's another one. I love to talk about culture - art, movies, music, books.

So I always get excited when women ask me about my favorite movies, bands, books, etc.

So here's a question to try:

"If you could make any kind of movie, what would it be about? Who would be your leading man/lady? Why?"

-Or-

"If you could make a living doing any kind of art, what would it be? Photography? Sculpture? Something really strange and avant garde?"

Every woman wants to be listened to.

Your Friend,

Mr. VK

[chenzong]

In the last 6 months I hv had difficulty maintaining an erection whenever I put on CD. I feel very little, even w/ the thinnest ones.

However, I hv had no problems at all when I do raw w/ my long term mistresses. As a result I hv done fewer ST or short term BY.

I suspect that many bros hv similar problem w/ CD.

I have the same problem. That's why I do not do ST. Guess my wife is very happy, haha.

When you have sex with a woman, a special chemical is released in her brain that tells her whether or not you are a good mate.
I'm no scientist and I cannot spell the name :) but I do know the more of this chemical that is released, the more she becomes attracted to you.

The hormone is oxytocin.

[Cerberus]

Regular PVOs is most satisfying physically, psychologically n emotionally for a gal/woman. There is no substitute in a long term RS, IMHO.

Your comments n criticisms will be appreciated.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Nice thread.....just passing by to read a few posts.

Yah....I was thinking about the penetrative sex thing.
God made vagina in women for a reason....
And it is natural instinct to poke (for guys) and to get poke (for chicks).

But I think many of times.....the chick wants to feel secure with the guy in order to let him poke her. That is the hardest part.

[airbrush]

Nice thread.....just passing by to read a few posts.

Yah....I was thinking about the penetrative sex thing.
God made vagina in women for a reason....
And it is natural instinct to poke (for guys) and to get poke (for chicks).

But I think many of times.....the chick wants to feel secure with the guy in order to let him poke her. That is the hardest part.

Two ways one way is easy is to pay the chick nothing is free.
Second way is to marry her and you can poke hardest.

[airbrush]

Interesting topic talking to "beautiful women". Powerful general knowledge is key to talk to women and it will be a bonus, if you have skills which will make a women beautiful they will want to talk to you.

To share with brother here. Last week I was on a trip to China I used to fly SQ but no direct flight so switch to ""Scoots"" which is also premium low budget airline by SQ. While waiting to disembarked the plane upon arrival in China I spotted a beautiful stewardess. Immediate instinct come to me wanted to start conversion with her. I started by saying "You confirmed is a Singapore Girl" by way she project herself and her outlook. She smile and reply yes you are right sir I am from SQ how do you know. The style and posture were different you from the rest of Scooties who look new and still unpolished.

Besides I trained beautiful girl to uniquely beautiful she was flatted and begin talking about her training in SIA about the important about image and attitudes towards passenger and while she is talking constantly she touches by shoulder to make sure I pay full attention listening to her till the last passenger disembarked from the plane which is me. Before I leave I say good bye nice to talk to you. My website is about how to make women beauty last check it out.

The subject Stop talking when the woman start talking is very powerful way to get to know beautiful women, especially those with medium to heavy make-up which frighten many average men from approaching them. Many men wish to talk to beautiful women but lack of subject to break the ice.

[deathnitez]

For some reason i have really bad experiences with Thai girls i mean they are know to be gentle and stuff but why i don't find them ever gentle at least the ones i met. :confused: but chinese taiwan korean viet girls are all okay to me but just thais..... and to my suprise most of my friends actually like thai girls is there something wrong with me lol :cool: hope is not out of topic

[warbird]

I have the same problem. That's why I do not do ST. Guess my wife is very happy, haha.
The hormone is oxytocin.

Bro chenzong,

I guess many men hv the same problem. I bet ur wife is very happy w/ ur faithfulness haha.

Other hormones such as dopamine, etc., are also released.

Regular orgasms r great for physical n mental health. It even prevents dementia: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2031498/Sex-Why-makes-women-fall-love--just-makes-men-want-MORE.html


Nice thread.....just passing by to read a few posts.

Yah....I was thinking about the penetrative sex thing.....

But I think many of times.....the chick wants to feel secure with the guy in order to let him poke her. That is the hardest part.

Bro Cerberus,

Thanks for ur post.

Yeah, a gal needs to feel safe n secure w/ a man before she can experience PVO.

Two ways one way is easy is to pay the chick nothing is free.
Second way is to marry her and you can poke hardest.

Bro airbrush,

Yes, nothing is free in this world.

Must ponder carefully before marrying any girl/woman. The stakes r much, much higher.

Interesting topic talking to "beautiful women". Powerful general knowledge is key to talk to women and it will be a bonus, if you have skills which will make a women beautiful they will want to talk to you.

To share with brother here. Last week I was on a trip to China I used to fly SQ but no direct flight so switch to ""Scoots"" which is also premium low budget airline by SQ..........................

Besides I trained beautiful girl to uniquely beautiful .........................My website is about how to make women beauty last check it out.

The subject Stop talking when the woman start talking is very powerful way to get to know beautiful women, especially those with medium to heavy make-up which frighten many average men from approaching them. Many men wish to talk to beautiful women but lack of subject to break the ice.

Bro airbrush,

Thanks for ur insights n comments.

Your website is to train women to become beautiful?

For some reason i have really bad experiences with Thai girls i mean they are know to be gentle and stuff but why i don't find them ever gentle at least the ones i met. :confused: but chinese taiwan korean viet girls are all okay to me but just thais..... and to my suprise most of my friends actually like thai girls is there something wrong with me lol :cool: hope is not out of topic

Bro deathnitz,

There is absolutely nothing wrong w/ u.

You may hv just described a good example of the Rashomon Effect. It's a fascinating subject.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[deathnitez]

WB enlighten me LOL..... anyway i think i just got abit lack of patient , i persist and i conquer woohoo thai is done within 2 days of minimum damage but plus those un successful attempts add up quite abit but all good worth it :cool:

[chenzong]

Second way is to marry her and you can poke hardest.

I agree with Bro WB, the stakes are much higher. And what makes you think your wife is so willing to allow you to poke all you want? I suspect many of us have been disappointed at some point in our lives over this aspect of marriage.

[warbird]

WB enlighten me LOL..... anyway i think i just got abit lack of patient , i persist and i conquer woohoo thai is done within 2 days of minimum damage but plus those un successful attempts add up quite abit but all good worth it :cool:

I'm very happy for u, bro.

I agree with Bro WB, the stakes are much higher. And what makes you think your wife is so willing to allow you to poke all you want? I suspect many of us have been disappointed at some point in our lives over this aspect of marriage.

You're right, bro.

Libido imbalance, or desire discrepancy, is such a common problem in marriage n other long term RS. It will wreck the RS.

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Good morning!

A few days ago a RS n sex guru sent me the following article on 'Black Magic Words' that will turn a beautiful woman on n make her dripping wet w/o her realizing why.

In my personal expereince, every girl has a playful, dark, wild n animal side which can be unleashed if u know how. She has to trust u 100% n she has to know for sure u won't judge her.

I won't go into details the words I hv used w/ my lao po n mistress. There r dirty n animalistic even when I use euphemisms. 你要我做小狗？ 大狗？哈哈哈。。。

Here is the article.

Hi Bro Warbird,

Have you ever wanted to leave a hot woman speechless? Turn her polite smile into a genuine wicked grin?

All you need to know are a few key, powerful and dangerous words.

Black Magic Words

But before we get to that, let me ask you a question: Why was language invented?

If there's one true thing we've learned from Hollywood it's that it wasn't invented to communicate - but to seduce women!

And tell me, how do you expect to do that if you don't know the Black Magic Words?

These Black Magic Words are some of the darkest, dirtiest phrases in the English Language.

You wouldn't dare say them to a woman's face. But trust me, if you know how to whisper them into a woman's ear, you will witness some of the most amazing and shocking effects:

* You WILL turn her on without her realizing it!
* You can make a woman INSTANTLY fall for you, even if you are only average-looking. In fact, this is the very secret the regular Joes you see walking hand in hand with Hollywood hotties use.
* You can use these magic words on a woman you're "just friends with." Then sit back and smile as you see her stripping naked just for you.
...But that's not even the best part. You would think something so powerful would take you a long time to master, but no. The Black Magic Words are easy to learn. You can literally start learning them NOW and master a new one each ten minutes!
I am so sure that they work, that I am going to offer you the first three for FREE.
Let's begin:

Black Magic Phrase Number One:
* Deep Inside
"What does it feel like, deep inside you?"
Sounds Dirty, doesn't it? It should. This simple expression conjures very explicit images and the sounds of women moaning. Best of all, it doesn't matter how innocent the woman is, she is unconsciously wired to associate these naughty thoughts when she hears "deep inside". All you need to do is find the proper context to make her fantasize whenever you want.
Try slipping them into your normal conversations:
Her:" Oh my god! This ice cream is to die for!"
You:" Really? Tell me how does it feel, deep inside you?"

Black Magic Phrase Number Two:
* Dripping (Wet)
"Be careful now, it's dripping down your chin..."
This black magic phrase is even more sensual than deep inside. It will drive sensual women even wilder.
Imagine how often you get the opportunity to slip on of these into a casual conversation for devastating effects:
The SITUATION: It's raining and she forgot to bring an umbrella. Don't just state the plain and obvious "It's raining." It's boring! Try this out instead:
"Oh baby, look at you! You're just dripping wet..."

Black Magic Phrase Number Three:
* Come (For Me)

"I love it when you come for me..."

We all want to come. Women fantasize about this just as much as men. So this Black Magic phrase will put her EXACTLY in the right spot and will drive her wild:

Her:" OK. I guess I'll see you later then."
You: "I can't wait for you to come."

Still not convinced? Here some more proof that it works every time:

* TV Networks will slip them about everywhere: Soap Operas, Reality TV, Talk Shows, etc...and viewers almost never notice them. What's the result? Ratings go through the roof! (Especially in the category "Women 18-34 years old")

* Exotic Tourism Advertising relentlessly penetrates young women's minds with these black magic words. Last year, thousands of gorgeous young women abandoned their inhibitions and morals and flew to Cancun, Mexico.

...So if you have a crush on a beautiful woman, just shove one of these Black Magic Phrases into your next conversation. She may just squeal in delight...

Best,

Your Guru

We need to know those words in Chinese if we r w/ PRC gals hahaha.

[NotMyRealName]

Good sharing WB sifu.

Yeah, I wonder what the chinese equivalent phrases are.

Perhaps （girls like to feel with their heart):
Black Magic Phrase Number One:
* Deep Inside
女孩：”最近烦死了，生意不好，推门没客人要我。脸又长豆豆“
男：”你这么漂亮，怎么可能生意不好，你里面发热，所以长豆豆嘛"

Black Magic Phrase Number Two:
* Dripping (Wet)
女孩：”你别喝这么多酒，还要驾车的是不是？“
男：”我看你这么娇滴滴美丽动人，不喝酒的话，口水都流出来了"

Black Magic Phrase Number Three:
* Come (For Me)
女孩：”你怎么这么久都没来看我啊“
男：”你叫我来我不就也来了啊"

hehe

[warbird]

Good sharing WB sifu.

Yeah, I wonder what the chinese equivalent phrases are.

Perhaps （girls like to feel with their heart):
Black Magic Phrase Number One:
* Deep Inside
女孩：”最近烦死了，生意不好，推门没客人要我。脸又长豆豆“
男：”你这么漂亮，怎么可能生意不好，你里面发热，所以长豆豆嘛"

Black Magic Phrase Number Two:
* Dripping (Wet)
女孩：”你别喝这么多酒，还要驾车的是不是？“
男：”我看你这么娇滴滴美丽动人，不喝酒的话，口水都流出来了"

Black Magic Phrase Number Three:
* Come (For Me)
女孩：”你怎么这么久都没来看我啊“
男：”你叫我来我不就也来了啊"

hehe

Hi bro NMRN,

Thanks so much so sharing.

I hv one: 这冰淇淋好香，真好吃， 我要慢慢的添， 轻轻的吸。。。

I invite bros here to come up w/ their own Black Magic Words in Chinese.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[Bigbluebird]

Think when i bo chap the girl, she starts calling. When i try to be nice, she take me for granted.


This is so totally true in every playground.

[deathnitez]

For me is a bit weird cause i come from english speaking family so whenever i speak mandarin it never fails to make my friends giggle and says it sounds cute?? So by just speaking mandarin my chinese gf gets turn on hmmm.....:confused: lol

[warbird]

This is so totally true in every playground.

Use push-pull to create stong emotions n attraction.

For me is a bit weird cause i come from english speaking family so whenever i speak mandarin it never fails to make my friends giggle and says it sounds cute?? So by just speaking mandarin my chinese gf gets turn on hmmm.....:confused: lol

Hi bro,

Your accent n what u say r not as important as how u say it. Your body language, voice, tonality, etc., r far more important.

You're attractive to the gals cuz of ur confidence.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[deathnitez]

Hi all,

Would like to share my exp from my recent thailand trip. The thai girl brought me around for a week and i stay at her place :D. I feel Thai girls seems more sincere not sure, or is it just her character. She seems to be very watchful on how i spend my money. She actually bargain for me for all the non meter running taxi. The taxis by just seeing how i dress treats me like some money tree keep charging me up the roof fare although she know i can afford she still try to haggle for me and usually succeed guess being cute does help :p.

She cook for me every morning.... GFE to the max. I say i would buy her some things as to thank her for bringing me around for free, she didn't go for branded stuff instead brought me to plamtonam not sure if i spell it right and bought a top and bottom which cost like total 20 sgd??

For looks department wise she have dark big beautiful eye my usual weakness, cute face, very cute voice "good for some activities" and bubbly character. Figure top B cup?? waist is damn slim and cute butt?? Overall is a fun trip and i will definately ask her to bring me around again. :cool:

[warbird]

QUOTE=deathnitez;9261798]Hi all,

Would like to share my exp from my recent thailand trip.........................

She cook for me every morning.... GFE to the max. I say i would buy her some things as to thank her for bringing me around for free, she didn't go for branded stuff instead brought me to plamtonam not sure if i spell it right and bought a top and bottom which cost like total 20 sgd??

For looks department wise she have dark big beautiful eye my usual weakness, cute face, very cute voice "good for some activities" and bubbly character. Figure top B cup?? waist is damn slim and cute butt?? Overall is a fun trip and i will definately ask her to bring me around again. :cool:[/QUOTE]

Hi bro deathnitez,

Ths for sharing ur FR w/ a Thai gal. How hard did she come for u?

.........................................

Good afternoon!

After frank discussions w/ some of my friends who r highly educated, I realize that they r completely clueless about how to give great pleasure to women. They also don't know much about the female mind and how attraction works. My friends include guys w/ doctorates in science, engineering, history, biology, physcians n MBAs...

Yesterday, I called a fellow ah pek who has lived in SZ for over 20 yrs. We talked on many subjects, including the universe n my theory that everything n every event in our known universe is predestined. He is THE smartest men I hv ever known. Orginally from Taiwan, got his double doctorate degrees in EE n nuclear engineering from a top uni in Gotham country. His wife lives in Gotham City but he spends 11 months out of a yr in China, running his businesses. His parents were from Shanghai n he speaks impeccable Mandarin, English and Taiwanese.

We had never talked about women until a few months ago when I called him on his China HP, a young woman replied hahaha. We hv since talked abt the difficulties keeping mistresses. You would think that he has an unfair advantage in that he is in SZ, China. He is also tall n very good looking. To me, he is more handsome than most Chinese actors. Looks n wealth r not that important of course. But when he lamented the fact that it's difficult to satisfy a young woman in bed, I knew he had a long way to go haha. BTW, he never heard of squirting! I hv just sent him several ebooks on sexology n attraction. He needs a lot of help hahaha.

I told him that:

In men-women attraction,

1) You're very attractive because you're very confident.

2) A girl feels what you feel.

3) Use push-pull n love-hate swings to create strong emotions

In giving pleasure to a very attractive young woman, techniques r very important but by themselves insufficient, your attitude n confidence r vital. You must be dominant n able to take the lead...She must trust u completely n be very relaxed.

Lastly, I told him that he must give his woman penetrative vaginal orgasms PVOs again n again, so that she will be sexually addicted to him. This is literally a matter of life n death if he does her raw. I also told him to check her w/ Oraquick every 3 months.

Although the challenge is to get a pretty n young woman of ur type to become sexually addicted to you. But once you hv achieved that there will be negative consequences. She may become clingy, needy n overly possesive or worse. Be prepared.

BTW, my young mistress is getting clingy n recently she requested that I downloaded a special lao po-lao gong Apple App so that we could communicate directly. She has sent me msg around the clock! I always take a long time to reply haha. She also gives hints that she wants to make love everyday!!

My two mistresses r very different. The young one is very warm, passionate, vivacious n happy. She prefers my tongue/mouth, followed by my didi. She experiences PVOs easily. My older mistress is aloof, cold n moody, w/ a hint of sadness. She prefers my magic fingers, followed by my didi haha. I eat her abalone sometimes. BUT, her orgasms r very violent n very vocal...sometimes she gives me bruises all over.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[warbird]

I just posted the following under "Dynasty Classic at Mount Sophia."

Good afternoon!

A friend of mine KB told me there is a singer at DC named Linda who is very pretty, around 165 in height?, early to mid 20s, with good proportionate figure.

He asks me to take a look, but I hv not BY-ed any gal less than 168 w/o shoes since Oct of 2010, hahaha. Additionally, I'm constrained by time as I sleep early. If a singer is exceptionally beautiful n has all attributes I desire, I'll wait for her to return to PRC...or just a make a deal w/ the HFJ n the gal n book her for the remaining periods of her stay, but I hv not seen such a beautiful singer yet. Some gals r very pretty n classy when seen in the joints but r quite plain n homely during the day w/o makeup hahaha.

Coming back to Linda. What is interesting, according to KB, is that she has a supporter,who is in his late 40s to early 50s, who is hanging 8k every night!

I called a HFJ legend n he thought she could be XJ from Chongqing.

However, Mummy Amy said XJ had returned to PRC n Linda is a different gal haha. Moreover, she is unaware of a patron hanging 8k every night for her. She described her as quite pretty w/ good figure. She never said very pretty, tall, fair n poised as she did when she talked abt a gal both of us hv known for a very long time.

I gave this info to my friend KB. He is apparently very impressed w/ Linda's good looks but is afraid to make a move on her cuz of her rich patron.

I'm going help KB get her.

I don't know her current patron n hv nothing against him. I wish him the best actually. But in this world we r living in, it's survival of the fittest n may the best man win! So pls don't flame me bro. It's nothing personal.

I'm going to test my hypothesis n strategies in getting the prettiest pussies of one's type addicted.

In the last 5 yrs, I hv gone after the prettiest gals of my type, either for ST or BY. If a gal steadfastly refuses ST, and if she has enuff attributes for BY, I'll offer BY.

Of the over 100 gals I hv offered BY, over 98% hv accepted, although I hv actually BY-ed less than 30 of them. About 95% in SG n close to 100% in PRC. Many gals said no initially but later said yes. Of the small % of gals who said no, most I had given up early cuz of their small boob size, which I only realized on followup.

Here is what I told KB.

Visualize that Linda is getting addicted to u. She is addicted to u cuz you're the most confident n the most attractive man in the Universe!! You're very attractive cuz you're very confident. Even if she is being BAO-ed by Carlos Slim, who has a net worth of over 60 Billion USD, she will take his money n elope w/ you!!

Visualize that you r giving her continuous penetrative vaginal orgasms she has never experienced before. You're like a drug to her. She is addicted to u n falling madly for u!!

Do it many times daily.

And you cannot fail.

Isn't life wonderful?

Cheers!

Bro WB

[fallen.angel]

Pardon my ignorance but unless this bro KB is rich, I would think getting this Linda would be throwing $$$ down the drain, especially when he is up against this rich patron of hers.

The rich patron may be able to afford $8K per night but bro KB may only be able to afford $100, and not every night. Not looking down on your friend though… and for all you know, this rich patron got where he is today financially becos of his confidence and superior control. If I were you, I would not go head on against him

nevertheless, give us your update and FR… and all the best!!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

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[newbieboy]

Pardon my ignorance but unless this bro KB is rich, I would think getting this Linda would be throwing $$$ down the drain, especially when he is up against this rich patron of hers.

The rich patron may be able to afford $8K per night but bro KB may only be able to afford $100, and not every night. Not looking down on your friend though… and for all you know, this rich patron got where he is today financially becos of his confidence and superior control. If I were you, I would not go head on against him

nevertheless, give us your update and FR… and all the best!!

It's really not about the money at all... If you know women well enough money versus happiness they will all choose happiness. The ones who don't haven't found a man they fall hard enough for yet...

My humble 20 dollar flower

[warbird]

Pardon my ignorance but unless this bro KB is rich, I would think getting this Linda would be throwing $$$ down the drain, especially when he is up against this rich patron of hers.

The rich patron may be able to afford $8K per night but bro KB may only be able to afford $100, and not every night. Not looking down on your friend though… and for all you know, this rich patron got where he is today financially becos of his confidence and superior control. If I were you, I would not go head on against him

nevertheless, give us your update and FR… and all the best!!

Hi bro FA,

Tks so much for ur comments.

Let me give u my take on this intriguing n rapidly evolving situation. I take issues w/ ur assumptions. I think u might hv met bro KB only once?

Firstly, Linda's rich patron may not be that rich n my friend bro KB may actually hv a higher net worth n definitely can afford a lot more than $100 if he chooses to. But like me, he wants a $100 total return for a $10 investment haha.

Secondly, I don't agree that her patron necessarily has superior confidence n emotional control, even assuming that he is a self-made man. Why? Cuz great expertise or success in one field doesn't mean he will be successful or has any expertise in other fields. In fact, the opposite is often true. I'll cite a few examples below. BTW, I hv a relative who is a high tech tycoon. He is still painfully shy n inept in social circumstances...he has a sky high IQ but a very low EQ.

Sir Issac newton was probably THE smartest man in human history. But did u know that he was a miserable failure in investing? Did u also know that Denton Cooley, the famed American heart surgeon, filed for bankruptcy in 1988, despite making over $10 million USD a yr for decades?

In the field of seduction, sexology n man-woman RS, most of the financially very successful men r clueless. Why? Firstly, they r spending too much time managing their businesses n their money. Secondly, they r overconfident n arrogant in that they think they know everything hahaha. Thirdly, they get so many pretty pussies so easily that they hv very few reasons to try to pleasure their women. But as I hv alluded to in the past, in this era of HIV, a man's life literally depends on his ability to get his women sexually addicted to him. This is also an area of my special interest n intense research. I leave no stone unturned. I'll hv more to say abt this vital topic.

I want to be blunt n brutally honest. If u can't give ur women continuous penetrative vaginal orgasms CPVOs, they will feel miserable, empty, unfulfilled n frustrated, often w/o knowing why. They will try to fill the void by overeating, gambling, drinking, complaining, nagging or worse. They will leave u or cheat on u, eventually. You can write it down. Watch how a woman walk n u can tell if she is is having CPVOs.

If bro KB is reading this, I want to remind him that competition gives meaning to success haha. I'm very confident that he will get Linda addicted to him, although it may take some time. He should take a close look at her again n try to qualify her to make sure that she is indeed worth his precious time. HE is the PRIZE, not her.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Hi Mr. Chairman,

Long time no see. Did u know that the 18 yo singer u introduced to me for BY in July 2009 is now married to a well to do young man in SG? She has a beautiful daughter. This is almost a Cinderella story. She has my heartfelt blessings.

Cheers!

It's really not about the money at all... If you know women well enough money versus happiness they will all choose happiness. The ones who don't haven't found a man they fall hard enough for yet...

My humble 20 dollar flower

Hi bro newbieboy,

You're spot on.

But PRC gals coming to SG r looking for money, not RS or love. Of course if they can meet the right man who can give them happiness, which must include some level of financial security AND CPVOs, more money may be meaningless to most of them hahaha.

Yes, they will fall madly in love with n become sexually addicted to the man who can give her financial security n CPVOs, especially 高富帅 like u and bro KB hahaha.

C'mon, how abt a $10K flower for the right gal?

Cheers!

Bro WB

[fallen.angel]

I tell my gal... 我不介意你去找别的男人... my gal will be taken aback

Then I explain... 你不去找别的男人怎么知道我是最好的

Then she will say I'm cocky but I know she can't run away liao

[warbird]

I tell my gal... 我不介意你去找别的男人... my gal will be taken aback

Then I explain... 你不去找别的男人怎么知道我是最好的

Then she will say I'm cocky but I know she can't run away liao

Bro FA,

Most PRC gals who come to SG to work at the nite scene has had a few BFs and/or patrons before. If u can give her CPVOs, she doesn't need to test out other men hahaha.

Although a man can give very intense pleasure to a woman using only his fingers n mouth/tongue, n these acts make CPVOs much easier to achieve, they r no substitute for his penis.

My gals hv told me that PVOs feel deeper, encompasses the whole body, more intimate, more connected, more satisfying...moreover, they don't get overly sensitive n thus can go on and on. They need them to become truly addicted.

Just my 2 cents.

BTW, I saw the mummy from DC yesterday. She said Linda's patron may be hanging 1K daily on most days? According to my friend KB, from the way he looked at her, he must hv felt like the luckiest n happiest man in the world haha.

My interpretation is that he is still chasing her. Why do I say that? I don't know abt most men, but once I get a pussy, regardless of how pretty she is, I won't feel that happy n the thrill n excitement r gone haha.

KB indicated that he wants an outing to DC next wk. I hope u could join us! I also invite all my kakis to join us for a fun nite.

Additionally, I dropped by CJ 6th FL at PC late afternoon yesterday to discuss some investments w/ a couple of frens. I stayed only 40 minutes. As I walked inside the lift to go to the car park, I was surprised to meet a pretty MILF DD, a long lost friend.

DD looked very sexy n pretty. She is now 28, 172, 53Kg, natural B w/ a most proportionate figure w/ juicy perky ass n relatively slender arms n long long straight legs...I met her over a yr ago. She said NO to ST. Later I proposed BY n she accepted, but there was never consummation cuz of my time constraints n my aversion to gals over 25. A few months ago she agreed to ST but again when I called she had gone back to PRC. I quickly hugged her but before I could kiss her, the lift door had opened. I was in a big hurry cuz I was going to dinner n movie. I need to find time to up her haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[saabking]

Bro FA,

Most PRC gals who come to SG to work at the nite scene has had a few BFs and/or patrons before. If u can give her CPVOs, she doesn't need to test out other men hahaha.

Bro WB

I get what you mean - i did give CPVOs to a gal and she became my wife :D

But how do you consistently replicate this with different women? Do you have a fail safe technique or measure? Lol

[warbird]

I get what you mean - i did give CPVOs to a gal and she became my wife :D

But how do you consistently replicate this with different women? Do you have a fail safe technique or measure? Lol

Hi bro saabking,

Very powerful stuff.

You gave a gal CPVOs, she fell for u, and she is ur wife now! If you continue to give her CPVOs, she is one very lucky woman n she will never leave u.

BTW, I would appreciate if u tell us how you first gave ur gal CPVOs. Have u been able to repeat it regularly?

IMHO, It's very difficult to give CPVOs to every woman. While every woman is different n most women can experience clitoral and/or G- spot/deep spot orgasms, only 1/4 to 1/3 of women hv had PVOs n much fewer hv ever had CPVOs.

Your chances r greatly increased if:

1) She is attracted to u, 2) you make her feel desired, feminine, beautiful, sexual n sensual, 3) she feels very safe n protected in ur presence, 4) you're non-judgmental, 5) she is very relaxed n she trusts u completely, 6) you're sexually very confident n dominant, in other words, you got massive sexual mojo, 7) you know how to talk dirty, 8) you first give her clitoral and/or g- spot/deep spot orgasms using ur fingers/tongue/mouth/toys, 9) you know the positions that will produce PVOs in her, 10) sometimes you're romantic n sometimes you're animalistic and, last but not least, 11) you can last at least 10-15 minutes after vaginal penetration.

Let me also state categorically that orgasms other than CPVOs are NOT TRULY ADDICTIVE to women, regardless of how frequent, intense and how prolonged.

In a long term RS, without CPVOs, a woman will feel empty, frustrated, as if something is missing, w/o knowing why herself. A brief full-blown full-body PVO is better than hour-long orgasms by any other means. Penetration by a man's fingers/tongue/dildo is NO substitute. That is THE SECRET.

I wasn't convinced of this until recently, when I carefully analyzed all the women I had had in my life to reach this startling conclusion. I now know why my lao po (first BAO-ee) and my young mistress cannot leave me haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[saabking]

Hi bro saabking,

Very powerful stuff.

You gave a gal CPVOs, she fell for u, and she is ur wife now! If you continue to give her CPVOs, she is one very lucky woman n she will never leave u.

BTW, I would appreciate if u tell us how you first gave ur gal CPVOs. Have u been able to repeat it regularly?

Your chances r greatly increased if:

1) She is attracted to u, 2) you make her feel desired, feminine, beautiful, sexual n sensual, 3) she feels very safe n protected in ur presence, 4) you're non-judgmental, 5) she is very relaxed n she trusts u completely, 6) you're sexually very confident n dominant, in other words, you got massive sexual mojo, 7) you know how to talk dirty, 8) you first give her clitoral and/or g- spot/deep spot orgasms using ur fingers/tongue/mouth/toys, 9) you know the positions that will produce PVOs in her, 10) sometimes you're romantic n sometimes you're animalistic and, last but not least, 11) you can last at least 10-15 minutes after vaginal penetration.

Let me also state categorically that orgasms other than CPVOs are NOT TRULY ADDICTIVE to women, regardless of how frequent, intense and how prolonged.

In a long term RS, without CPVOs, a woman will feel empty, frustrated, as if something is missing, w/o knowing why herself. A brief full-blown full-body PVO is better than hour-long orgasms by any other means. Penetration by a man's fingers/tongue/dildo is NO substitute. That is THE SECRET.

I wasn't convinced of this until recently, when I carefully analyzed all the women I had had in my life to reach this startling conclusion. I now know why my lao po (first BAO-ee) and my young mistress cannot leave me haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Well, she didn't leave me - but i left her..Sigh..

Anyway. to share my experience - i think i did the got some of your above points right:

(1) definitely, (2) yes, (3) confirmed, (4) yup, she felt at ease, i don't judge, (5) totally let me bring her where i want to, (8) yes a definite must in the prelude and foreplay, (9) not easy to replicate all the time but practices do help in getting it right, (10) i suppose so - in this time and age i still give flowers and write love letters haha..(11) yes - self mastery, discipline and control is a must - throughout my time with her i will not let myself cum until i can make her cum

Hopefully this provides some feedback and pointers to all other bros as well. LOL

[warbird]

=saabking;9332706]Well, she didn't leave me - but i left her..Sigh..

Anyway. to share my experience - i think i did the got some of your above points right:

(1) definitely, (2) yes, (3) confirmed, (4) yup, she felt at ease, i don't judge, (5) totally let me bring her where i want to, (8) yes a definite must in the prelude and foreplay, (9) not easy to replicate all the time but practices do help in getting it right, (10) i suppose so - in this time and age i still give flowers and write love letters haha..(11) yes - self mastery, discipline and control is a must - throughout my time with her i will not let myself cum until i can make her cum

Hopefully this provides some feedback and pointers to all other bros as well. LOL

Hi bro saabking,

Tks so much for sharing ur experience. You're good, very good...

But there is always rm for improvement for all of us. I'm training diligently to better myself, everyday.

You can work on points 6) n 7). Absolute sexual confidence is a must. Also, learn to talk dirty as it will greatly amplify her pleasure n orgasms. As for 10), I meant you should be romantic as well as animalistic in the bed rm hahaha.

You hv done very well w/ point 11), which is crucial. A man can be a master of all preceding 10 points but if he can only last 60 secs after penetration, his woman will leave him or cheat on him. You can write it down.

Try to develop great sexual stamina. It'll also improve a man's pulmonary n cardiovascular health.

BTW, how did ur ex-wife react when you left her? I hope she didn't get violent.

Comments n FRs from other esteemed bros on this vital topic would be most sincerely welcomed.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[kewlguy]

11) you can last at least 10-15 minutes after vaginal penetration.


Looks like i'm destined to have every gal leave me cos i suffer from premature ejac... :(

[pusseeluber]

im in a long term relationship with my girlfriend....but i met someone last year who is somewhat like a FB...

after we hooked up, i find it difficult to maintain an errection when im with my current girlfriend, but have no problems with my lover...

i figure it could be a attraction problem or i feel guilty....? Any idea how to solve?

[sane]

im in a long term relationship with my girlfriend....but i met someone last year who is somewhat like a FB...

after we hooked up, i find it difficult to maintain an errection when im with my current girlfriend, but have no problems with my lover...

i figure it could be a attraction problem or i feel guilty....? Any idea how to solve?

u r no longer sexually attracted to ur gf .. in worst case, only commitment and not in love with her.

[superhuman]

im in a long term relationship with my girlfriend....but i met someone last year who is somewhat like a FB...

after we hooked up, i find it difficult to maintain an errection when im with my current girlfriend, but have no problems with my lover...

i figure it could be a attraction problem or i feel guilty....? Any idea how to solve?

to each his own but I have this to say.

nv mix up lust and love. the lover may leave u. but if u have a good rs with your gf and planning marriage dont give up for a moment of lust.

your gf or wife wilk love and support you. try telling ur lover u are out of job or no money. then u will see the true colors

[pusseeluber]

i agree.

I have no plans to leave my gf, but not being able to have sex with her may not be good for the relationship. We are both in our early 40s, and have been together about 5 years, and not contemplating marriage.

The FB is also married and have no plans to leave her husband.

The frequency of sex between my GF and me already was getting low before i met my fb, since we are together so many years.


to each his own but I have this to say.

nv mix up lust and love. the lover may leave u. but if u have a good rs with your gf and planning marriage dont give up for a moment of lust.

your gf or wife wilk love and support you. try telling ur lover u are out of job or no money. then u will see the true colors

[warbird]

Looks like i'm destined to have every gal leave me cos i suffer from premature ejac... :(

Hi bro,

Relax, you're too pessimistic. No, not every gal will leave u.

There are many ways to delay ejaculation. Google it you will know. You will need practice.

You hv plenty of time bro. In a committed RS, ur woman will not leave u or cheat on u immediately. It may take months or yrs...perhaps never. Let me explain below.

A woman may be so suppressed n inhibited, or perhaps so traumatized psychologically due to sexual abuse, that she could never come anyway n prolonged vaginal intercourse may cost pain n discomfort. She is gratified that she has fulfilled her marital duty so quickly n w/ so little discomfort!! There were many such women in the past, but you will be surprised that there r still women like that around!! Incredible but true. Seducing such inhibited women, especially very beautiful ones, giving them CPVOs and making them addicted to you would be THE ultimate challenge hahaha. Great skills n great patience will be the prerequisites.

Cheers!

im in a long term relationship with my girlfriend....but i met someone last year who is somewhat like a FB...

after we hooked up, i find it difficult to maintain an errection when im with my current girlfriend, but have no problems with my lover...

i figure it could be a attraction problem or i feel guilty....? Any idea how to solve?

Hi bro,

If I were u, I would leave the gal.

Life is too short to spend time in a RS which is not sexually fulfilling. Don't stay in a lose-lose situation. You're not being fair to both of u.

u r no longer sexually attracted to ur gf .. in worst case, only commitment and not in love with her.

I agree.

to each his own but I have this to say.

nv mix up lust and love. the lover may leave u. but if u have a good rs with your gf and planning marriage dont give up for a moment of lust.

your gf or wife wilk love and support you. try telling ur lover u are out of job or no money. then u will see the true colors

Hi bro,

I beg to differ. How could a man plan marriage w/ a woman he is not sexually attracted to? It's very cruel to both parties.

i agree.

I have no plans to leave my gf, but not being able to have sex with her may not be good for the relationship. We are both in our early 40s, and have been together about 5 years, and not contemplating marriage.

The FB is also married and have no plans to leave her husband.

The frequency of sex between my GF and me already was getting low before i met my fb, since we are together so many years.

Hi bro,

Of course you may hv ur reasons for not leaving ur GF. But my advice is the same: Leave her. It will be much better for both of u in the long run.

长痛不如短痛！

Cheers!

Bro WB

[HCKing]

im in a long term relationship with my girlfriend....but i met someone last year who is somewhat like a FB...

after we hooked up, i find it difficult to maintain an errection when im with my current girlfriend, but have no problems with my lover...

i figure it could be a attraction problem or i feel guilty....? Any idea how to solve?

enjoy the best of both world loh. if yr current gf is good wife material better not lose her and regret later. worst thing to happen is u dump her and find another one who can fulfill yr lust but one day refuse to give u sex then u LPPL liao.:D

[deathnitez]

WB I Think she did try very hard to please me in bed hehe :cool: and I enjoy it. Plus she seems to need my attention a lot, one day no message she go all gah gah.

But after reading the previous posts, sometimes you will think these girl might just really wants you for your money. When we go such places I feel is not really to find true love but to just have sexual satisfaction with the additional GFE depending on the level.

For KB i feel if he like the girl hang her like a 100 then get a chance to talk to her, you will never know his 100 bucks might get her to bed with him or unless he really want a relationship but I don't advise that. So I feel being confidence is always the most important.

[autoroam]

I just posted the following under "Dynasty Classic at Mount Sophia."

Coming back to Linda. What is interesting, according to KB, is that she has a supporter,who is in his late 40s to early 50s, who is hanging 8k every night!

Bro WB

Bro... I know there no shortage of RICH ppl in SG but to throw SGD8k a night....
That will be close to SGD3mil in a year :eek:

Don't think any RICH person will be dumb to do this type of investment

:confused:Ripley Believe It or Not:confused:

[woody17]

Dear Bro Warbird
I will be visiting Singapore on 25th July. If you have any outing to DC on 25th or 26th July, please let me know.
Woody

[PowerTAN_P_W]

It's really not about the money at all... If you know women well enough money versus happiness they will all choose happiness. The ones who don't haven't found a man they fall hard enough for yet...

My humble 20 dollar flower

it's obvious that you do not understand women. women will only choose a man with 'seh' like Power Tan. :cool:

Rgds,
Ah Wee

[warbird]

WB I Think she did try very hard to please me in bed hehe :cool: and I enjoy it.................

But after reading the previous posts, sometimes you will think these girl might just really wants you for your money. When we go such places I feel is not really to find true love but to just have sexual satisfaction with the additional GFE depending on the level.

For KB i feel if he like the girl hang her like a 100 then get a chance to talk to her, you will never know his 100 bucks might get her to bed with him or unless he really want a relationship but I don't advise that. So I feel being confidence is always the most important.

Hi bro deathnitez,

Ths for ur FR.

Unfortunately, bro KB needs to hang at least 1K to hv the chance to talk to her, according to another singer.

Bro... I know there no shortage of RICH ppl in SG but to throw SGD8k a night....
That will be close to SGD3mil in a year :eek:

Don't think any RICH person will be dumb to do this type of investment

:confused:Ripley Believe It or Not:confused:

Hi bro autoroam,

Ths for ur opinion. I hv more to say abt this.

Dear Bro Warbird
I will be visiting Singapore on 25th July. If you have any outing to DC on 25th or 26th July, please let me know.
Woody

Hi bro woody,

We will hv a session at TAM complex. Let me warn u that the quality of gals is not good though, mostly women over 30. I suspect many r over 40 n hv given birth...

The policies of our ICA hv encouraged older women to come to SG to make a living selling their haggard n overused bodies! It's pathetic.

I was at CI 3rd FL last Fri for SH. I arrived around 9:20 PM. The only gal who was so so was a gal from BJ who did do ST. I told mummy to KIV. In 15 minutes, she was booked by another client. I got her ctc anyway.

I was prepared to sit by myself n talk w/ bro JS, but he booked a gal after 10PM. So I had to call my young mistress to come from home as I didn't want to sit alone...

Cheers!

.................................................

Good afternoon!

I had an outing to DC SH w/ bro KB n a few other bros over a wk ago. Never had a chance to see the superstar singer Linda as I left early. According to her good friend, she is being BY-ed by a man at 100K SGD a month. Don't understand why he still allows her to work. She is returning to PRC soon. BTW, she is a MILF, born in 1986. Her minimum flower is 1K. She is not a good singer. Apparently, bro KB had lost interest in her. The day before, he actually saw her squatting by the roadside, waiting for her BF. He should've approached her n asked for her ctc then. What had he got to lose?

Linda's BF usually sits in a rm n hangs 3-5K a day? A singer told KB that last Sat night, both Linda n another singer got 20K each in a flower 'war'. Not sure how much Linda got from her BF.

Bro KB commented that hanging flowers is a real waste of money, crazy n stupid.

Yes and no. I hv my own take on this.

Buying stocks n buying pussies share one similarity. Price is what u pay n value is what u get. Sometimes price is much greater than value n sometimes value is much greater than price. I'm a value investor for both stocks n pussies haha. Of course one man's meat is another man's poison plus there is the Rashomon Effect.

IMHO, hanging mega flowers is more abt ego trip n self aggrandizing than abt the singers. Some men may hv inferiority complex n feel insecure. Winning flower war may be exciting n a form of therapy. It promotes confidence n is good for mental health; don't forget the winner also gets the pussies. It's great if you r DETACHED from the outcome n the money is only a drop in the bucket for u. A 100k a month to the very rich may be like $100 or $10 or less to an ordinary man on the street.

I'll talk abt PVOs next time.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[NotMyRealName]

Hi bro deathnitez,
IMHO, hanging mega flowers is more abt ego trip n self aggrandizing than abt the singers. Some men may hv inferiority complex n feel insecure. Winning flower war may be exciting n a form of therapy. It promotes confidence n is good for mental health; don't forget the winner also gets the pussies. It's great if you r DETACHED from the outcome n the money is only a drop in the bucket for u. A 100k a month to the very rich may be like $100 or $10 or less to an ordinary man on the street.

Bro WB

Bro WB, good sharing by you especially the paragraph above.

In fact, any bidding war for something way more than it's value to win "face" or momentary "glory" as wasted. Much like bidding for an item during the 7th month festival, the master of ceremony say oh this piece of item signify good luck and prosperity for your business for the rest of the year, and people bid up to 7-8k for a piece of plastic with golden yellow paint that says 财源广进. Well, my father did that for a couple of years and his business is a sunset industry anyway so downhill it went.

[airbrush]

Hi bro woody,

We will hv a session at TAM complex. Let me warn u that the quality of gals is not good though, mostly women over 30. I suspect many r over 40 n hv given birth...

The policies of our ICA hv encouraged older women to come to SG to make a living selling their haggard n overused bodies! It's pathetic.


Bro WB

Brother Warbird,

Your suspect of most women are over 30 if not 40 is not wrong. FYI in PRC along there are shortage of nice and beautiful young women. Most young and beautiful were very well informed about the market in SG. They rather stay in PRC to wait for the right hit. Although PRC men are not as gentle as SG men but these young girls enjoyed the luxury they received. The young girls prefer generosity and material they get than gentleman feeling. Rich PRC men are more generous, the amount they give is enormous if they like the girl compare to SG men. I attended one of my PRC friend's wedding the girls wanted my friend to organised 18 Mercedes to parade to her place on her wedding day to pick her up and her request was fulfilled. It is hard to see young and beautiful PRC girls nowadays. PRC want face and they get the beautiful one, SG men are smart but they hardly get a beautiful one.

[woody17]

Is the quality of MMs at TAM that bad now...? You might as well come to SZ on a more frequent basis now. There are still plenty of premium quality MMs around

[warbird]

Bro WB, good sharing by you especially the paragraph above.

In fact, any bidding war for something way more than it's value to win "face" or momentary "glory" as wasted. Much like bidding for an item during the 7th month festival, the master of ceremony say oh this piece of item signify good luck and prosperity for your business for the rest of the year, and people bid up to 7-8k for a piece of plastic with golden yellow paint that says 财源广进. Well, my father did that for a couple of years and his business is a sunset industry anyway so downhill it went.

Hi bro NMRN,

The 'suitors' at HFJs n 'bidders' at auctions r very similar hahaha.

It would be great if a man feels elated when he 'wins' the pussy or a 'prized item', but remains completely detached n nonchalant when he loses. This requires awesome self mastery...

Brother Warbird,

Your suspect of most women are over 30 if not 40 is not wrong. FYI in PRC along there are shortage of nice and beautiful young women. Most young and beautiful were very well informed about the market in SG. They rather stay in PRC to wait for the right hit. Although PRC men are not as gentle as SG men but these young girls enjoyed the luxury they received. The young girls prefer generosity and material they get than gentleman feeling. Rich PRC men are more generous, the amount they give is enormous if they like the girl compare to SG men. I attended one of my PRC friend's wedding the girls wanted my friend to organised 18 Mercedes to parade to her place on her wedding day to pick her up and her request was fulfilled. It is hard to see young and beautiful PRC girls nowadays. PRC want face and they get the beautiful one, SG men are smart but they hardly get a beautiful one.

Hi bro airbrush,

Most of the very pretty young women at uni in PRC r quickly BY-ed before graduation. If they ever come to SG, they r accompanied by their BFs. There is a chance to BY the slightly lower quality ones. But most of the 2nd tier gals still want to be BY-ed in China. It takes a lot of persuasion n inducements to get them to come to SG.

PRC men can be very generous. According to a bro who was in my outing last Fri, his GF knows of a Shanghainese gal now living in SG, abt 27, quite ordinary looking, who has been BY-ed by a China man for 20K SGD a month for abt 2 yrs. He pays for her luxury condo here n has also bought her a condo in Shanghai, a BMW in SG n given her expensive gifts. He only visits her in SG 2-3 days out of a month. Worse of all, unbeknown to him, she visits gigolo clubs in SG...

Price is what u pay n value is what u get. Did I say value? Sometimes one gets something more, something unexpected n nasty such as a green hat and/or HIV in the case pf pussies...and bankruptcy in the case of stocks hahaha.

In October, 1999, eToy had a market cap of 10 billion USD, whereas Lockheed Martin, the famous high tech defense contractor, had a market cap of 5 billion. Within 24 months, eToy filed for bankruptcy hahaha.

In the case of the SH gal, her patron is risking his very life (cuz she is fucking some foreign gigolos).

Cheers!


Is the quality of MMs at TAM that bad now...? You might as well come to SZ on a more frequent basis now. There are still plenty of premium quality MMs around

Hi bro woody,

The prettier ones r getting BY-ed quickly. But it's a matter of luck n u may still find gals who r desirable.

I'll hv to visit HK n SZ more often.

See u very soon.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[NotMyRealName]

Most of the very pretty young women at uni in PRC r quickly BY-ed before graduation. If they ever come to SG, they r accompanied by their BFs. There is a chance to BY the slightly lower quality ones. But most of the 2nd tier gals still want to be BY-ed in China. It takes a lot of persuasion n inducements to get them to come to SG.
Bro WB

Quite true. I was chatting with a uni undergrad in her final year in changzhou of JieJiang province, and she said all her class mates are taken care of by BF, but she said some of her pretty class mates are with BF who are giving them pocket money of a couple of k rmb while some give up to 20k rmb. She said the feeling for the guy plays a part too. I think there is a single-child needy feeling thing plus all is doing it and being pampered and why not me kind of mindset. Mind you, this is also not a perfect market, whereby the price, the product, and the channels are not very apparent so you can use it to your maximum advantage.



PRC men can be very generous. According to a bro who was in my outing last Fri, his GF knows of a Shanghainese gal now living in SG, abt 27, quite ordinary looking, who has been BY-ed by a China man for 20K SGD a month for abt 2 yrs. He pays for her luxury condo here n has also bought her a condo in Shanghai, a BMW in SG n given her expensive gifts. He only visits her in SG 2-3 days out of a month. Worse of all, unbeknown to him, she visits gigolo clubs in SG...

Price is what u pay n value is what u get. Did I say value? Sometimes one gets something more, something unexpected n nasty such as a green hat and/or HIV in the case pf pussies...and bankruptcy in the case of stocks hahaha.
Bro WB
Yeah, but such generous PRC men are also wanted by many MM so they are also practical that they want someone while may be waiting for a better one. So there is a bit of work after getting the MM to be addicted to you or dependent on you, and the girl, before working age and not exposed to a lot of luxury (such as they may not have learned to drive yet), expenses are not as high etc etc.



The prettier ones r getting BY-ed quickly. But it's a matter of luck n u may still find gals who r desirable.

I'll hv to visit HK n SZ more often.
Bro WB
Hehe, don't limit your self to SZ, venture further for second tier cities, their demand are lower, although all want 10k RMB or 15k or 20+k but you can still get good catch. PM me to talk about getting BY candidates.

[warbird]

Quite true. I was chatting with a uni undergrad in her final year in changzhou of JieJiang province, and she said all her class mates are taken care of by BF, but she said some of her pretty class mates are with BF who are giving them pocket money of a couple of k rmb while some give up to 20k rmb. She said the feeling for the guy plays a part too...................

Yeah, but such generous PRC men are also wanted by many MM so they are also practical that they want someone while may be waiting for a better one. So there is a bit of work after getting the MM to be addicted to you or dependent on you, and the girl, before working age and not exposed to a lot of luxury (such as they may not have learned to drive yet), expenses are not as high etc etc.

Hehe, don't limit your self to SZ, venture further for second tier cities, their demand are lower, although all want 10k RMB or 15k or 20+k but you can still get good catch. PM me to talk about getting BY candidates.

HI Bro NMRN,

Tks for the valuable info.

The initial challenge is to convince them to come to SG. The next challenge is to get them addicted haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[deathnitez]

Wow WB,

But in such a case i think kb would have to consider whether he is willing to invest the 1k to have a 50 50 chance of getting the girl addicted lol. Yeah and is true if paying more about paying more does boost the ego but investing blindly can be quite dangerous. I did had my share of investing aggresively till the extend that the girl took notice of me and really later fall in love with me. It does gives me an ego boost till when the next few time i come she will ignore her other cust just to be with me the whole night. Of course i will help her hit her minimum target for the night. Now this girl told me she don't want me to go see her at her work place but want me to ask her out instead she don't want me to get jealous with other guys. So pros and cons do.

But sometimes it depends. currently i got a friend who i feel is really kc by a girl in this hang flower joint. He spend like a few K every night just to get her to seat with him. He kept saying she is different cause the girl say she need money for university and blah blah. But he is rich so i got nothing to say but i feel he is really kced to the max. My regular girl in that joint actually told me about that girl not being very honest.... I advised my friend but he is still paying... even wanting to marry her... So i feel can have fun but avoid kc.

Anyway I just got back from my business trip... and went out with one of my girl who I know in singapore and is working there. Free escort services hehe, but this time i ask a really a direct question to her why she choose to go out with me when actually another guy specifically came from somewhere abroad just to look for her. (nearly got into an incident with that guy). Is it because I got money.

The next moment she cried and say "No!!! if money i can earn myself don't need you and if I want money I would have ask you to pay me before you come." Then suddenly the next few days she insist on paying for dinner and transport. I was kinda shock. I spend the whole 3 nights with her and she even skip 2 days work to be with me. This was kinda of an experience for me she even told me she want me to be her boyfriend and she don't mind me having other girls...:cool: but maximum 3 lol... she will be definately one of the few girls which I will keep.

[NotMyRealName]

Wow WB,

But in such a case i think kb would have to consider whether he is willing to invest the 1k to have a 50 50 chance of getting the girl addicted lol. Yeah and is true if paying more about paying more does boost the ego but investing blindly can be quite dangerous. I did had my share of investing aggresively till the extend that the girl took notice of me and really later fall in love with me. It does gives me an ego boost till when the next few time i come she will ignore her other cust just to be with me the whole night. Of course i will help her hit her minimum target for the night. Now this girl told me she don't want me to go see her at her work place but want me to ask her out instead she don't want me to get jealous with other guys. So pros and cons do.

But sometimes it depends. currently i got a friend who i feel is really kc by a girl in this hang flower joint. He spend like a few K every night just to get her to seat with him. He kept saying she is different cause the girl say she need money for university and blah blah. But he is rich so i got nothing to say but i feel he is really kced to the max. My regular girl in that joint actually told me about that girl not being very honest.... I advised my friend but he is still paying... even wanting to marry her... So i feel can have fun but avoid kc.

Anyway I just got back from my business trip... and went out with one of my girl who I know in singapore and is working there. Free escort services hehe, but this time i ask a really a direct question to her why she choose to go out with me when actually another guy specifically came from somewhere abroad just to look for her. (nearly got into an incident with that guy). Is it because I got money.

The next moment she cried and say "No!!! if money i can earn myself don't need you and if I want money I would have ask you to pay me before you come." Then suddenly the next few days she insist on paying for dinner and transport. I was kinda shock. I spend the whole 3 nights with her and she even skip 2 days work to be with me. This was kinda of an experience for me she even told me she want me to be her boyfriend and she don't mind me having other girls...:cool: but maximum 3 lol... she will be definately one of the few girls which I will keep.

You are a sifu in getting girl to be KC by you leh.

[deathnitez]

You are a sifu in getting girl to be KC by you leh.

Guess might be cause I am lucky but i have my fair share of getting KC by girl and espeacially one particular girl before which made me learnt my lesson and to be more immune to being KC. Skill do get build up when you frequent this joints often.

But I believe other bros here definately have more skill then me I am still quite fresh to be honest compared to other bros like WB and many others. I still need advise too. :cool:

[saabking]

W So I feel being confidence is always the most important.

Yes - agreed that confidence is always the most important. Though, it is important also to distinguish between quiet confidence against loud mouth bull shit boastful. The gals can tell from a miles away if you are just a load full of shit but would be mesmerised by you if you show her your worldly wisdom, poise and finesse.;)

[deathnitez]

To some of my business partners their favourite phrase is "Any girl problem use money to throw at the problem" this phrase still creeds me sometimes but it usually works to a certain extend. :cool:

[warbird]

Wow WB,

But in such a case i think kb would have to consider whether he is willing to invest the 1k to have a 50 50 chance of getting the girl addicted lol............................................... .................currently i got a friend who i feel is really kc by a girl in this hang flower joint. He spend like a few K every night just to get her to seat with him. He kept saying she is different cause....................even wanting to marry her...

Anyway I just got back from my business trip... and went out with one of my girl who I know in singapore and is working there. Free escort services hehe.............................................. ..
The next moment she cried and say "No!!! if money i can earn myself don't need you and if I want money I would have ask you to pay me before you come." Then suddenly the next few days she insist on paying for dinner and transport...............................she will be definately one of the few girls which I will keep.

Hi bro deathnitez,

Tks for sharing ur exploits.

My friend KB has forgotten the singer Linda as she is no longer in SG. Whereas I hv nothing to forget cuz I hv never seen her haha.

If ur friend likes to hang flowers n he can easily afford it, let him enjoy himself.

It's always good to get pussies FOC. Do u use condoms?

Cheers!

You are a sifu in getting girl to be KC by you leh.

Yes, bro deathnitez is very good.

Guess might be cause I am lucky but i have my fair share of getting KC by girl...............and to be more immune to being KC. Skill do get build up when you frequent this joints often.

But I believe other bros here definately have more skill then me I am still quite fresh to be honest compared to other bros like WB and many others. I still need advise too. :cool:

Bro, you're really too humble. I'm a toddler despite my advanced age.

Yes - agreed that confidence is always the most important. Though, it is important also to distinguish between quiet confidence against loud mouth bull shit boastful. The gals can tell from a miles away if you are just a load full of shit but would be mesmerised by you if you show her your worldly wisdom, poise and finesse.;)

Hi bro saabking,

I couldn't agree w/ u more. Having true confidence n self mastery is the key.

To some of my business partners their favourite phrase is "Any girl problem use money to throw at the problem" this phrase still creeds me sometimes but it usually works to a certain extend. :cool:

Money can solve many problems. But no amount of money can make a gal emotionally n sexually addicted.

.....................................

Good morning!

Many bros hv reiterated their belief that confidence is very important in attracting the opposite sex.

You're very attractive because you're very confident. Period.

What is real confidence in a man?

Don't confuse it w/ arrogant, boastful, aggressive n domineering behaviour which is the antithesis of confidence. Such beta behaviour is indicative of insecurity n inferiority complex at the subconscious level, in the more primitive brain. It's a severe defect n deficiency the conscious brain is painfully aware of n is desperately trying to hide hahaha...such a man has fears, can't sleep if he loses half his fortune n feels dejected n frustrated if his favourite woman leaves him...

Here is a MAN w/ real confidence:

'If' by Rudyard Kipling

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master,
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!


We should all aspire to become such a MAN.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[deathnitez]

"Money can solve many problems. But no amount of money can make a gal emotionally n sexually addicted." This I agree bro WB. Winning over girl thru emotionlly and sexually seems more rewarding then with money. And yes I use condom of course. Scary not to use. 😓

[warbird]

"Money can solve many problems. But no amount of money can make a gal emotionally n sexually addicted." This I agree bro WB. Winning over girl thru emotionlly and sexually seems more rewarding then with money. And yes I use condom of course. Scary not to use. 😓

Hi bro deathnitz,

A very rich man can own the body n pussy of a very beautiful girl, but he doesn't own her heart n soul, unless he makes her sexually n emotionally addicted to him.

But very rich men usually fail w/ beautiful women because of many reasons: arrogance, over inflated ego, overconfidence, preoccupation w/ making money, lack of time, treating women like objects or toys, ignorance yet thinking they know it all, refusal to improve their RS n sexual skills n, last but not least, the fact that they can get so many beautiful women so easily is perhaps their biggest weakness. Most of them think they r God-like n don't need to please their women...

I hv much more to say abt the intimate RS between sexual n emotional addiction n PVOs...and to comment on the use of condom at a later date.

Cheers!

...........................................

Good afternoon!

Are u a nice guy, especially in the presence of a beautiful women of ur type?

I just received the following from a sex n RS guru:

Why 'Nice Guys' Are HUGE ASSHOLES..‏.

You're incredibly mean to women, and you don't even know it (maybe).

I'm for real on this one.

And thank god you've got me to tell you,
because all the 'beat around the bush',
pussy people who surround you
in your everyday life will not..

They'll sugarcoat everything and feed it to you 'til your insulin levels
are JACKED-UP and you've got thinking-diabetes.

No thanks. I will never feed you anything coated with sugar
nor will I beat around the bush, ever.

You take your medicine straight, like a man, and
I penetrate straight into the bush. Obvi :)

But anyways, enough about me.

Back to you, the guy who might be mean to women without even knowing it................................................ ....

I refer to myself as a charming asshole a lot,
and I kind of mean it. It's more playful
than anything, and it's in my nature.

But a real asshole looks at you and sees what he wants
to see, instead of what is actually there.

AND HERE'S WHY YOU MAY BE INCREDIBLY MEAN TO WOMEN RIGHT NOW:

When you're out with a beautiful woman, do you see
her exactly as she is, or do you see more of the flawless,
future relationship partner you want her to be?

If you're like most guys, you're in the second category.

You let the chemical high of attraction camouflage all the little flaws
(if she's of the human species, there are many), all the telltale signs
of problems in her life and all the emotional issues in favor of,
"Wow, we're gonna build such a great life together."

Yeah, it's not just women that do it..

And here's what happens when you do this:

You become convinced by your distorted view of her
that she's the one..

You become attached.

You start becoming intensely outcome-focused
(instead of action-aroused).

You start creating these images and pictures in your mind
of your future together with her.

And al of it is BULLSHIT.

Because it's not real.

You ignored the fact that she has no female friends
(which should tell you A LOT) because she was hot
and blows you.

You ignored the fact that she doesn't work but somehow
always seems to have money, because she was hot
and blows you.

You ignored the fact that she never allows herself
to be vulnerable or that she treats the waitstaff at
dinner poorly, or that she finds the negative in everything,
or that she has scarcity views on money...because she was hot
and blows you good.

And she's not the bad one here...you are.

Because you refused to see her for WHO SHE IS.

You only saw what you wanted to see.

This what so-called 'nice guys' do.

They bullshit her with only the good, don't see her for who she really is,
and project this perfect human being onto her, a person that doesn't EXIST.

How. fvcking. cruel.

I've said it before, and I'll violently say it again:

'Nice guys' are the meanest, most manipulative people on the planet.

Fvck 'nice'.

BE REAL.

Now..

If this is you right now, GOOOOOD.

Now you're aware of it.

That's huge.

And now it's time for you to make the shift of
giving everyone you know a gift that almost
no one else is able to...

You're going to see everyone for exactly as who they are.

Including all the women you're seeing.

The good, the bad, the ugly, the TRUTH.

And when you catch yourself starting to project
all these perfect qualities on her, you're going
to STOP and think to yourself..

"OK, I'm going to stop seeing this perfect version of her right now.
Instead, I'm gonna see all the flaws, the signs, the truths. And from
that rare place of authenticity and well-hungness, I'm going to vibe
with the real her."

This newsletter today is important, I suggest you
come back and read it multiple times...

Mr. Guru

[lawry]

Master... Accepting any disciples? :D


"Money can solve many problems. But no amount of money can make a gal emotionally n sexually addicted." This I agree bro WB. Winning over girl thru emotionlly and sexually seems more rewarding then with money. And yes I use condom of course. Scary not to use. 😓

[deathnitez]

Master... Accepting any disciples? :D

Hi Bro Lawry,

I am no master :confused:. I guess maybe I treats this girls with respect and sincere and of course put in abit of feeling. And usually if i go such places i will pick the one which i got the feel if not even how busty or beautiful a girl is no feel no follow up. Feel i guess is like chemistry. :cool: This girls will know if you are sincere. Sorru for bad english abit drunk....

[deathnitez]

Hi WB and Bros,

Today just had lunch with a friend talking about guy B. He was cheat twice by first a Malaysian then a China girl. Then heard recently he is going to most likely fall victim to a Thai. But why with two bad experience with these girls he stills willing to fall into the trap again. And all this girl actually makes him lose a lot of money. Any reason behind this? Sigh....:cool:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

But why with two bad experience with these girls he stills willing to fall into the trap again. And all this girl actually makes him lose a lot of money. Any reason behind this? Sigh....:cool:
Some people head bang wall pain will wake up, but some won't
Some people head bang wall & bleed will wake up, but some won't
Some people head bang wall skull crack no need to wake up, forever in their dream state

But then again, there r people out there who just loves to be used & abused by WLs n get a kick out of it.
Different strokes for different folks

[deathnitez]

Some people head bang wall pain will wake up, but some won't
Some people head bang wall & bleed will wake up, but some won't
Some people head bang wall skull crack no need to wake up, forever in their dream state

But then again, there r people out there who just loves to be used & abused by WLs n get a kick out of it.
Different strokes for different folks

Yeah honestly I really don't mind if he get the kick out of it by his own account but if you play and going to get your parents involve till you need them to sell their house is really quite bull....sigh. :cool:. guess like you say maybe they are in limbo state.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Yeah honestly I really don't mind if he get the kick out of it by his own account but if you play and going to get your parents involve till you need them to sell their house is really quite bull....sigh. :cool:. guess like you say maybe they are in limbo state.
Well, many kinds of people breathe the same air. Some people were born to be SCREWED, some were born to screw. Just have to do a reality check occasionally to remind urself which camp ur from. 这是叫做"命"啊
Don't feel sad or pity for these kind, for they feel like the most 幸福 idiot on the planet lolzzz

[Tai_zi21]

Don't feel sad or pity for these kind, for they feel like the most 幸福 idiot on the planet lolzzz

Haha I totally agree with this quote my shi fu!!! :) busy recently? Never see u post recently

[saabking]

"Money can solve many problems. But no amount of money can make a gal emotionally n sexually addicted." This I agree bro WB. Winning over girl thru emotionlly and sexually seems more rewarding then with money. And yes I use condom of course. Scary not to use. ��

Yes - I find it most rewarding when you win her over and get her emotionally addicted - all forms of emotions (to me sex is only one of the many forms).:D

Not only when she want or need sex..but when she is happy, she wants you to be the first person to share her joy; when she is sad, she wants you to be the first person to hug her and to offer her a shoulder to cry on; when she is angry, she wants you to be the first person who can calm her down and give her soothing peace; when..etc, etc. Then, that is true mastery of her emotions; and she will be totally addicted to you every minutes of the day.

[warbird]

Master... Accepting any disciples?
Hi Bro Lawry,

I am no master :confused:. I guess maybe I treats this girls with respect and sincere and of course put in abit of feeling.................

You're very humble bro.

Hi WB and Bros,

Today just had lunch with a friend talking about guy B. He was cheat twice by first a Malaysian then a China girl. Then heard recently he is going to most likely fall victim to a Thai............And all this girl actually makes him lose a lot of money. Any reason behind this? Sigh....


Some people head bang wall pain will wake up, but some won't
Some people head bang wall & bleed will wake up, but some won't
Some people head bang wall skull crack no need to wake up, forever in their dream state....................

Yeah honestly I really don't mind if he get the kick out of it by his own account but if you play and going to get your parents involve till you need them to sell their house is really quite bull....sigh...... guess like you say maybe they are in limbo state.

Well, many kinds of people breathe the same air. Some people were born to be SCREWED, some were born to screw. Just have to do a reality check occasionally to remind urself which camp ur from. 这是叫做"命"啊
Don't feel sad or pity for these kind, for they feel like the most 幸福 idiot on the planet lolzzz
Haha I totally agree with this quote my shi fu!!! :) busy recently? Never see u post recently

Dear bros, "Guy B" is 'insane."

“Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.”

Yes - I find it most rewarding when you win her over and get her emotionally addicted - all forms of emotions (to me sex is only one of the many forms).:D

Not only when she want or need sex..but when she is happy, she wants you to be the first person to share her joy; when she is sad, she wants you to be the first person to hug her and to offer her a shoulder to cry on; when she is angry, she wants you to be the first person who can calm her down and give her soothing peace; when..etc, etc. Then, that is true mastery of her emotions; and she will be totally addicted to you every minutes of the day.

Hi bro saabking,

Well said bro.

...............................................

Good afternoon!

Every healthy heterosexual girl/woman wants a man who can be a provider and a protector; preferably, he is also confident, self-assured, completely comfortable in his own skin, dominant, courageous, ambitious, patient, accomplished, yet kind, gentle n compassionate. He must be a MAN with awesome emotional control and self mastery.

Such a man is very attractive to the most desirable girl/woman but that is not enough to get her emotionally n sexually addicted.

As I hv alluded to in the past, a girl/woman can only be sexually addicted to a man who gives her the most intense PVOs again n again. No ifs, ands or buts about it. True emotional addiction is a byproduct.

Also, IMHO, without sexual addiction, so-called 'true love' between a man n a woman is mere fantasy/curiosity which will fade eventually...

Let me give u a quote.

Real love is the love that sometimes arises after sensual pleasure: if it does, it is immortal; the other kind inevitably goes stale, for it lies in mere fantasy.

Giacomo Casanova



Cheers!

Bro WB

[miniboy]

hi WB,

im a 40+ guy who had never enjoy ktv or night club life before
have read through your posting here from start to end
and find it interesting

could u give some guides to newbie here who wants to enjoy some fun

i have been to the nightclub in lavender and some pubs a few times
but these girls keep moving around just to collect tips
how do i get a girl which i favour on to stick her butt next to me

willing to pay for the fun but dont not want to spolit the market
how are the rates and fees involved

gum sia gum sia

:D

[coffeevan]

hi WB,

im a 40+ guy who had never enjoy ktv or night club life before
have read through your posting here from start to end
and find it interesting

could u give some guides to newbie here who wants to enjoy some fun

i have been to the nightclub in lavender and some pubs a few times
but these girls keep moving around just to collect tips
how do i get a girl which i favour on to stick her butt next to me

willing to pay for the fun but dont not want to spolit the market
how are the rates and fees involved

gum sia gum sia

:D

Is hard to tell you where can find girls not butterfly around nowadays unless that girl you ask to sit really cannot find customer that day. Depend on the ktv you go, tips start between $20 or $30 onwards (my max is $50 if that girl really sit with me throughout) Cheers