How To Get And Keep Attractive Gals Of Your Type [Archive] - Page 7

MoralEpitome

14-09-2010, 09:25 PM

No, this is not a simple case of one man's meat...what is strange is that my fren didn't even want the gal to sit w/ him initially when he 1st saw her at a "mummy-less" KTV in DC complex. He told her to get lost but she threw herself on him! He has not been the same person ever since. She must hv cast a spell on him n he is trapped!

Now he can't sleep n can't work. He can't get her off his mind for more than 5 minutes while awake. He dreams abt her. He used to despise PRC gals...his command of Mandarin is quite limited as well. If she doesn't pick up his calls or return his text msg, he is in anguish. He doesn't even know why he is in love w/ her. He is like a zombie. He has offered a large amt of money (much more than all the money I hv spent to BY 17-18 gals in the last 15 months) to beg her to quit working n she refused! I guess she wants a lot more than that. To me she is an ugly MILF whore whom I wont fxk even if she pays me. He confided w/ me that he wants a long-term RS w/ her n would love to marry her if only she would accept him! Is he mad or what??

My conclusion: He kena gong tao. Any idea how he could be saved?

I'm just glad that this has not happened to me. What can I do to prevent ever getting "gong tao-ed" ?

Introspect, I might hv got a bit of gong tao from KK. Fortunately, she fell in love w/ a 20 yo fellow student n let me off the hook. I got lucky. There is this tall Kangxi gal I hv to approach w/ caution as gong tao is a common practice in that part of China.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Yeah...this type of thing very strange one...simply can't be explained...btw I ever crashed my car while thinking of a WL because I was just so distracted by her...hmmm....I also got one fren pay money for this mlif whom I would not even touch with a 5 foot pole...he pay money but she refuse to zuo tai with him....she wants all his money under the table and let her earn more...crazy man...I think it's damn stupid but he willing does it...and he avoid the joints she work at so that she wun be angry...I think must mediate and wake up!....scary!

MoralEpitome

14-09-2010, 09:30 PM

Okie.. try and please FR can ?
Thanks.

Bro, don't think I will try your contact leow...after dumping my two girls I had been girl-less for a one week....been searching high and low for a good replacement to no avail....but today I finally found her! 20 year old syt that looks like a korean actress!....I dislike 20 year olds because most of them are immature and I feel like I am paying to entertain them but this one is not bad...I will follow up on this one for the next few weeks to see if I can close deal....she just arrived in Singapore and let's see if I can be the first one to bonk her....I think she is agreeable to BY but let's see if I can seal it under $1000 or not...lol...but if I kena gong tao by her than will do BY...hahaha

warbird

15-09-2010, 10:35 AM

It's indeed odd that a veteran in nite-clubbing would fall for an ordinary looking MM and I guessed the only logical explanation was what you said - a spell had been cast on this friend of yours. So is this MM from Kunming where Chinese voodoo is still practiced there?

Yeah...this type of thing very strange one...simply can't be explained...btw I ever crashed my car while thinking of a WL because I was just so distracted by her...hmmm....I also got one fren pay money for this mlif whom I would not even touch with a 5 foot pole...he pay money but she refuse to zuo tai with him....she wants all his money under the table and let her earn more...crazy man.............scary!

Hi bros woody n ME,

My fren is NOT a veteran of KTV scene. He is a player, a scion of a well-heeled family in Malaysia/S'pore, who only goes after local n Ang Mo gals. He has limited command of Mandarin. He has not fallen in love for over 20 yrs!

I believe his MM is from Sichuan. Some PRC gals from the Southwest China know how to 施情蛊 or gong tao. My fren is trying hard to forget her. He is doing a lot of praying n meditation...

Very scary...my fren rejected her for butterfly initially.

The scientific explanation is that the gal has triggered some neuro mechanisms in his primitive brain, certain attraction button formed during his early childhood, in his subconscious mind...n he falls deeply for her. Perhaps hypnosis could reveal the underlying reason.

IMHO, the best defense against getting KC-ed is to focus on the gal's negatives. Use NLP/meditation/psycanics to magnify them n let them imprint deeply in ur subconscious mind...the problem is that, if u carry this too far, u may never want to fxk her again, hehehe.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

15-09-2010, 10:59 AM

Hi bros woody n ME,

My fren is NOT a veteran of KTV scene. He is a player, a scion of a well-heeled family in Malaysia/S'pore, who only goes after local n Ang Mo gals. He has limited command of Mandarin. He has not fallen in love for over 20 yrs!

I believe his MM is from Sichuan. Some PRC gals from the Southwest China know how to 施情蛊 or gong tao. My fren is trying hard to forget her. He is doing a lot of praying n meditation...

Very scary...my fren rejected her for butterfly initially.

The scientific explanation is that the gal has triggered some neuro mechanisms in his primitive brain, certain attraction button formed during his early childhood, in his subconscious mind...n he falls deeply for her. Perhaps hypnosis could reveal the underlying reason.

IMHO, the best defense against getting KC-ed is to focus on the gal's negatives. Use NLP/meditation/psycanics to magnify them n let them imprint deeply in ur subconscious mind...the problem is that, if u carry this too far, u may never want to fxk her again, hehehe.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Yes Sichuan and ChongQing girls seem very good at this! lol....but they also often the easiest girls to ST....what about ZheJiang? My latest target from ZheJiang....and I am already full of evil thoughts on how to tackle her...but I will be cool about it and be ready to drop her when things don't go the way I want it to...

besafe

15-09-2010, 03:09 PM

.but today I finally found her! 20 year old syt that looks like a korean actress!....

Bravo !!! Clap ! Clap !
Waiting to read your juicy FR.:p

MoralEpitome

15-09-2010, 08:57 PM

Bravo !!! Clap ! Clap !
Waiting to read your juicy FR.:p

Sigh abit busy recently...not much time for this shit...anyway she seem quite raw and new in this...obviously may not be very good at this game yet...don't think she knows how to please a man...today meeting just ended....will see if i can follow up tomorrow....

warbird

16-09-2010, 10:49 AM

天上人间 and a few other major KTVs in Beijing have been forced to be closed for 6 months by the Beijing GA (with a new GA Head assuming the position) and mamasans have to continue their business by introducing MMs to customers in genuine KTVs (i.e. those without hostesses). I had 天上人间 girlfriend asking me to find similar job in HK. It's now back to normal and there is really no need for any 天上人间 MM to come to Singapore to earn a living. If she is of upscale quality, she will probably earn ten times of what she can earn in S'pore. A lot of 天上人间 MM drive to work in Porsche, BMW and MB

Hi bro woody,

Ths for the info. Recently I was intro to a gal who just came to SIN on social pass, who had worked at 天上人间(see my previous posts) 3x a wk until recently. She was classy n a looker, but too old (27-28) n a bit too tall (174 w/o shoes) for me. I rejected her for a cute 20 yo Fujian gal I picked up outside a lift, hehehe.

Cheers!

Yes Sichuan and ChongQing girls seem very good at this! lol....but they also often the easiest girls to ST....what about ZheJiang? My latest target from ZheJiang....and I am already full of evil thoughts on how to tackle her...but I will be cool about it and be ready to drop her when things don't go the way I want it to...

You're safe bro. Gals from Zhejiang r not known for their gong tao, haha.

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Good morning!

I think some bros/frens r paying too much for exclusivity, GFE n companionship, etc. I may be in the same camp n need to reevaluate my strategies n objectives.

Although part-time BY-ing is 40-50% less expensive, exclusivity is not ensured n much more difficult to enforce. Even full-time BY-ing is not 100%. Then again, no one can be sure that he or she will be alive tmr. Life is so unpredictable...

I currently hv two full-time Bao-ees, aged 20 n 23 (will be 24 soon). They exist just to wait for me to show up n make love to them or take them out for dinner. They never say NO, otherwise they r history. It's a good feeling bcos u know how it is, even my OC n ur OC may say NO, from time to time. Big auntie has come? NP, she can still do BBBJ. Or I can go to the other pussy.

The negative is that the damage is twice as high (like maintaining 2 separate households). Also it's physically very taxing n exhaustive for an ah pek like me. I hv had difficulties satisfying both of them sexually.

But all good thing must come to an end as I'll be leaving for Gotham soon. I really need to rest n recuperate. One gal asks: 你回去了我怎么办？凉拌，你回去上班吧。And so one gal will return to work n the other back to China, hehehe.

Pls share ur BY-ing experiences n comments w/ us.

Cheers!

Bro WB

roamersg

16-09-2010, 11:21 AM

besafe

16-09-2010, 04:53 PM

Sigh abit busy recently...not much time for this shit...anyway she seem quite raw and new in this...obviously may not be very good at this game yet...don't think she knows how to please a man...today meeting just ended....will see if i can follow up tomorrow....

Hahaha.. I quit KTV already.;)

jf66312

16-09-2010, 05:22 PM

besafe

16-09-2010, 05:35 PM

简谈降头
http://www.daojiaofuzhuang.com/ItemView.aspx?id=380&columnid=51

MoralEpitome

16-09-2010, 07:41 PM

Bro WB and others: how do you handle room arrangements with your BYs? I have usually just done ST hotels for quickies and regular ones for o/n or longer romps. I had one before where all 2 of her roommates had BFs who stayed over at timese so we usually just hung out in her room. For another, her landlord was next door so I couldn't stay in her room much (tho her roommates didn't mind), so I wanted her to move out to get a flat. But she didn't want to live alone, so that didn't go anywhere

Do you rent a flat just for your BY? Suggestions as to how to find fitted flats at reasonable costs for month-by-month? What range of costs in your experience? Lastly, can this all be done using BY's passport, as I don't want her to see my IC as I always keep my real name secret?

Thanks for any tips and suggestions

You can easily rent a room for less than one k for her a month but i think this defeats the purpose of privacy and don't see the problem of using passports can i have rented out to foreigners before...if you want to rent the whole apartment....i suggest you rent a whole hdb apartment for about thousand seven a month...private will be at least ard two five a mth...of cos i also tot of buying a studio for this purpose but i guess we have to ask ourselves if we will really ustilize it and will the property be a worthwhile investment...becos always remember no money no honey....but if property prices drop after the recent measures may not be a bad idea...cheers

小龙女

16-09-2010, 07:42 PM

hi bros,

just saw some bros post reagarding gong tao...
especially Sichuan/ChongQing gals..
is it true?

cost lately there is this PRC gal that i always frequent at GL for session , & she asked me out during her rest days....
ever since, my mind been thinking abt her few times ..more than usual..

usual - as in i only go look for her when my little bro needs to be sextisfied as my wife currently pregnant thus i cant do anything...

been lethargic these few days as i normally have sufficient rest....am not sure if its my physical or my mental body is tired...

will appreciate if any bros give some light or advice.

cheers

Your pregnant wife need you more than this PRC gal does

Bonk....pay....and you'll never owe her anything.....you home to your wife

Your wife is still your best chose.... or else you wouldn't be marrying her

ENJOY OURSELF OUTSIDE, BUT OUR BEST IS STILL AT HOME - OUR WIFE

MoralEpitome

16-09-2010, 10:15 PM

sorry to add on if use her passport need a valid pass....and you must pay for the stamp duty...

MoralEpitome

16-09-2010, 10:33 PM

Hi bro woody,

Ths for the info. Recently I was intro to a gal who just came to SIN on social pass, who had worked at 天上人间(see my previous posts) 3x a wk until recently. She was classy n a looker, but too old (27-28) n a bit too tall (174 w/o shoes) for me. I rejected her for a cute 20 yo Fujian gal I picked up outside a lift, hehehe.

Cheers!

You're safe bro. Gals from Zhejiang r not known for their gong tao, haha.

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Good morning!

I think some bros/frens r paying too much for exclusivity, GFE n companionship, etc. I may be in the same camp n need to reevaluate my strategies n objectives.

Although part-time BY-ing is 40-50% less expensive, exclusivity is not ensured n much more difficult to enforce. Even full-time BY-ing is not 100%. Then again, no one can be sure that he or she will be alive tmr. Life is so unpredictable...

I currently hv two full-time Bao-ees, aged 20 n 23 (will be 24 soon). They exist just to wait for me to show up n make love to them or take them out for dinner. They never say NO, otherwise they r history. It's a good feeling bcos u know how it is, even my OC n ur OC may say NO, from time to time. Big auntie has come? NP, she can still do BBBJ. Or I can go to the other pussy.

The negative is that the damage is twice as high (like maintaining 2 separate households). Also it's physically very taxing n exhaustive for an ah pek like me. I hv had difficulties satisfying both of them sexually.

But all good thing must come to an end as I'll be leaving for Gotham soon. I really need to rest n recuperate. One gal asks: 你回去了我怎么办？凉拌，你回去上班吧。And so one gal will return to work n the other back to China, hehehe.

Pls share ur BY-ing experiences n comments w/ us.

Cheers!

Bro WB

hmmm.....I am trying to cut down on expenses as I want to save up and invest more....so I don't think I want to BY...but I also don't want it to be purely transactional...so no choice have to spend abit of effort to coax the girl lor...usually I tip slightly higher than market rate and I give higher than market rate for the ST after I convince her to do it....my latest target is quite new and not very expose to the scene yet but she's quite smart and quick to pick up the ropes...she doesn't ST and hint to me that she doesn't mind me taking care of her....but who doesn't....wonder what should my next step be...

jf66312

17-09-2010, 09:43 AM

thanks bro ,

i went out with her once recently but have stopped since...

cheers

warbird

17-09-2010, 11:00 AM

Bro WB and others: how do you handle room arrangements with your BYs? I have usually just done ST hotels for quickies and regular ones for o/n or longer romps.........................

Do you rent a flat just for your BY? Suggestions as to how to find fitted flats at reasonable costs for month-by-month? What range of costs in your experience? Lastly, can this all be done using BY's passport, as I don't want her to see my IC as I always keep my real name secret?.......................

Hi bro roamersg,

Renting a master bedroom or a 1-bd-rm flat for a BAO-ee is a great idea. Rental for a master brm ranges from 1k to 2k n a 1-bd-rm flat from 1k to 3.5k n up depending on location, etc. May require 6 to 12 month-lease plus agent's commission (usually half month's rental). You could use the gal's passport to sign up. Month-to month rental is very hard to find.

BY-ing is incomplete n unsatisfactory until u n ur gal hv ur own private place to spend time n make love. It's much easier for the gal to get KC-ed n addicted to u (at ur own risk). The flip side is that u may get KC-ed too!

hi bros,

just saw some bros post reagarding gong tao...
especially Sichuan/ChongQing gals..
is it true?
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usual - as in i only go look for her when my little bro needs to be sextisfied as my wife currently pregnant thus i cant do anything...

There is gong tao. Or predestined affinity??

简谈降头
http://www.daojiaofuzhuang.com/ItemView.aspx?id=380&columnid=51

Thank you!

You can easily rent a room for less than one k for her a month but i think this defeats the purpose of privacy and don't see the problem of using passports can i have rented out to foreigners before...if you want to rent the whole apartment....i suggest you rent a whole hdb apartment for about thousand seven a month...private will be at least ard two five a mth...of cos i also tot of buying a studio for this purpose .................................................

Buying a studio is a good idea n may be a good investment.

hmmm.....I am trying to cut down on expenses as I want to save up and invest more....so I don't think I want to BY...but I also don't want it to be purely transactional...so no choice have to spend abit of effort to coax the girl lor...usually I tip slightly higher than market rate and I give higher than market rate for the ST after I convince her to do it................................................ .......

When you r ready, try full-time BY-ing n place her in her own studio. It's a whole different experience...

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Good morning! So good to be alive n kicking!

In investing/trading, I lose some n I win some. So what else is new?

Some bros may remember my 20 yo "niece," who speaks the exact same dialect as my dear mom. She wants to return on student visa to continue her English education when I'll here for my next visit. She also wants to be my full-time mistress in SIN n would like to stay in China when I'm in Gotham country. We hv reached agreement on all the terms. I'll keep her for one yr as long as she is 100% faithful to me. She has one serious negative: She smokes, although 1 pack usually lasts a wk. She promises to quit completely...

While sending her documents to my QQ mailbox, she also visited my QQ space n saw all my "good Frens," mostly my past n present BAO-ees. She expressed her anger n sadness...I lied to her n protested that I met but only 3 of them, all in the past, hehehe. I know she will be here nevertheless...;)

Cheers!

Bro WB

besafe

17-09-2010, 01:46 PM

Your pregnant wife need you more than this PRC gal does

Bonk....pay....and you'll never owe her anything.....you home to your wife

Your wife is still your best chose.... or else you wouldn't be marrying her

ENJOY OURSELF OUTSIDE, BUT OUR BEST IS STILL AT HOME - OUR WIFE

Bravo.. well said.

besafe

17-09-2010, 01:47 PM

Hi bro roamersg,
she also visited my QQ space n saw all my "good Frens," mostly my past n present BAO-ees.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Wow...can add me ? please ?

MoralEpitome

17-09-2010, 02:04 PM

Wow...can add me ? please ?

hahaha...i need to brush up on my chinese...any pussy lao shi?

besafe

17-09-2010, 02:41 PM

Haha.. you are too humble !

roamersg

18-09-2010, 08:20 AM

warbird

18-09-2010, 10:35 AM

Wow...can add me ? please ?

Sorry, a bit sensitive...I hv some secrets I need to hide, hehehe.

Thanks Bro WB and ME for the suggestions! I had also thought of getting a "F--pad" for such things, but was too afraid laopo would come across bank paymetns or paperwork and then it's all over. The master is a nice suggestion

Hi bro roamersg,

You need to pay cash n get the gal to sign the lease.

Cheers!

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Due to very heavy "work" schedule, I could only post infrequently for the next few wks.

Pls share ur experiences n comments generously n keep this thread going.

Ths n hv a great day!!

Bro WB

woody17

18-09-2010, 11:31 AM

Buying 1 bedroom condo is expensive these days. I just sold off my 1-bed room 800 sq.ft condo at Tanjong Rhu at S$750K earlier this year. Better rent a studio flat for your BY lady ....

MoralEpitome

18-09-2010, 01:26 PM

Thanks Bro WB and ME for the suggestions! I had also thought of getting a "F--pad" for such things, but was too afraid laopo would come across bank paymetns or paperwork and then it's all over. The master is a nice suggestion

Actually no worries one...i rented out my properties before...i did not even bother to meet the tenant....just let the agent do everything...but get a trustworthy one...preferably female as all the male agents i know are lupsup and cheong ktv ones...hahaahahah....just get the girl to provide passport and WP to agent and you pass her the money for the deposit...if avoid trace you can bring in cash to the landlord's account every month...i used to have a tenant who bank in cash to my account every month....landlord don't care as long as they receive the money...

MoralEpitome

18-09-2010, 01:32 PM

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Due to very heavy "work" schedule, I could only post infrequently for the next few wks.

Pls share ur experiences n comments generously n keep this thread going.

Ths n hv a great day!!

Bro WB

Some updates on my new target...I went to fetch her from her house in the east...convenient for me hehe...and fetch her to work...we chatted and found out more about each other....I tried to get her to consider ST but she does not do ST at the moment...we joked and she said that I can take care of her if I like....I joked that I teach her the tricks of the trade and she take care of me instead...I would cut off contact with her for some time so that she will not take me for a carrot and then resume my plot on her....aim would be the first Singapore Sperm in her....lol

warbird

22-09-2010, 10:42 AM

Buying 1 bedroom condo is expensive these days. I just sold off my 1-bed room 800 sq.ft condo at Tanjong Rhu at S$750K earlier this year. Better rent a studio flat for your BY lady ....

Hi Bro Woody,

Yeah, either a studio flat or a master bedroom.

I heard u are the Bao King of China. Pls share some of ur experiences n wisdom w/ us.

You're really in an enviable position as you're right in the epicenter of all the PRC MMs, hehehe. Fortunately, we fancy different type of pussies. Mine is usually < 25, preferably much younger, n yours usually >25.

BTW, thank u for agreeing to audition some of my prospective BAO-ees in SZ. A video recording would be a great idea. Perhaps scantily clad? I owe u big time!

I hv told my agents that I prefer gals who r uni students n non-WLs n they said no problem.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Actually no worries one...i rented out my properties before...i did not even bother to meet the tenant....just let the agent do everything...but get a trustworthy one...preferably female as all the male agents i know are lupsup and cheong ktv ones...hahaahahah....just get the girl to provide passport and WP to agent and you pass her the money for the deposit...if avoid trace you can bring in cash to the landlord's account every month...i used to have a tenant who bank in cash to my account every month....landlord don't care as long as they receive the money...

Ths for ur pointer.

Cheers!

Bro WB

woody17

22-09-2010, 11:44 AM

warbird

24-09-2010, 10:01 AM

Dear Bro WB
Let me know if u will be visiting Beijing or Shanghai, I have network that can introduce u to college MMs starlets models for both ST and BY. Even 'Virgin Air' MMs are available if noticed well in advance....
Re audition in SZ, my pleasure to audition for u as I enjoy beauty parade. Do let me have a checklist of ur questions so that I could properly record the whole interview in HD video. Well if the interviewees are willing to strip and show off their hardware, so much the better....
Woody

Dear Bro Woody,

Wow! I must take up ur offer!

When I visit Beijing or SH, I'll hv time only for ST. I could BY them n bring them to S'pore on social pass.

I prefer college student bcos I dun normally pay a premium for a gal's status or fame. The damage should be based strictly on her youthfulness, freshness, looks, figure, submission n services. What would be the price range for a 2-month BY in SH? On top of that I should add, well what should I call it, overseas tour incentive?

Regardless of how attractive a gal may appear when scantily clad, there is an asset which is concealed yet of paramount importance, hehehe, namely the aesthetic n conditions of her pussy. I want a pretty n pink abalone, w/ a pleasant scent, n of course it must be very tight, wet n responsive. Last but not least, her attitude n services r very important.

Pls keep in touch n ths again,

Bro WB

kenneth21

01-10-2010, 01:19 AM

warbird

02-10-2010, 02:36 AM

hi bros, can check with you all, is it most ktv girl can be bonked with money? i recently met two at peace centre. and i wanna bonk them. but how to initiate? they are friendly to me, kinda like a friend also, got go out eat bla bla bla. so, what approach should be used? dun wanna spoil the frenship too.

Hi bro kenneth21,

Dun behave like a wuss when dealing w/ gals, especially WLs.

Do u want to get laid or stay as "frens" w/ them?

Many KTV gals dun go out for ST. But a 19 yo SH gal recently confided w/ me that ALL gals who work at KTVs can be bonked, for the right price. Some may only want to BAO-ed, haha.

Cheers!

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Good morning!

I like to share some thoughts on BY-ing PRC MMs in S"pore.

I'm back in the comfort of my own home in Gotham City. While I was in SIN I had had 2 full-time BAO-ees, n for a short time 3, in the last several months. I tried to meet n make love to them abt 3 times each per wk. In other words, I hv to fxk just abt everyday, which had proven physically too taxing n too stressful for an pek like me.

My total damage for BY-ing this yr is already running 4X that for the whole of 2009. The reason? Last yr, all my BAO-ees r part-time, meaning that they continued to work at KTVs, whereas this yr all of my gals dun work while I'm BY-ing them. There r advantages n disadvantages w/ both. I hv also paid rentals for several gals n the costs for student/WP visas for 2 of them.

Keeping full-time mistresses is very time consuming. A typical gal expects u to take her out 4-5 times a wk n to stay overnite w/ her at least occasionally. She may bug u n want u to take care of trivial stuff such as getting a mobile broadband card. One gal loves to travel n expects me to take her around Asia n even Europe!! And she will expect u to buy her some gifts. My answer is No, unless she treats me like an emperor.

If the gal remains aloof n distant, u suspect that she doesn't like u or is eating outside, whereas if she is too sticky n wants to make love everyday it may become equally intolerable.

What happens to my last 2 gals now? I told the younger one to return to work, hehehe. She immediately went back to China for a 1-wk vacation. She is still very angry w/ me for terminating my patronage. The other one (let's call her KX) is going back to China tmr n will be here when I return.

KX is very similar CD in ht n wt, but is much fairer n has pink nips n pink abalone n even pink asshole (in fact her asshole is so pretty that she is the 1st gal w/ whom I'm tempted to perform AR). More importantly, she has much tighter pussy than CD's...

Separately, my niece BB may return on student visa (paid in full by me) n my agents r actively looking for pretty SYTs to be imported to SIN just for my pleasure. BTW, remember my one time heartthrob KK? She is the 19 yo gal who fell for a 20 yo PRC boy, a fellow classmate, while I was in Gotham country. They hv had a miserable n sometimes stormy RS, hehehe. There is a good chance she may want to be my mistress again. I'm not sure if I should take care of her again, even though I still hv unfinished business w/ her. I hv focused on her many negative points. I may resume the RS for a while just to make her addicted to me...

Cheers!

Bro WB

Dragonkeep

03-10-2010, 12:24 AM

[QUOTE=warbird;5265149]Hi bro kenneth21,

Dun behave like a wuss when dealing w/ gals, especially WLs.

Do u want to get laid or stay as "frens" w/ them?

Many KTV gals dun go out for ST. But a 19 yo SH gal recently confided w/ me that ALL gals who work at KTVs can be bonked, for the right price. Some may only want to BAO-ed, haha.

Cheers!

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Very happy to stumble onto this thread. Looks like lotsa wisdom and lobang!

I agree very much with bro Warbird's approach quoted above. IMHO, PRC MM are essentially here to make it with their bods - some are more explicit (ala at GL), some less (singers etc). The brutal truth is that they are practically all willing to let some dude get their honey, but have different asking prices only.

The trouble seems to be the imperfect market. Some MM undersell: witness the KO solid good lookers we wag our tongues at in what some would class "low end" places or even streetwalkin at GL. Others oversell: the types that lead to threads we have on those ice-queen heartache generating types. To add to the chaos, we cheongsters have our individual learning curves in figuring out the way the game is played and improving our gamesmanship. And of course, each of us has different attributes, be it $$ or how 帅 or how charming each of us maybe.

Speaking from my own hard experience, it is easy in each of our green and blur days at the beginning (no offence to those natural lady-killer types), to mistake a love affair for the $$$ transaction going on. Of course, SBF has threads about exceptions and cheongsters heading to ROM with some MM as "riding into the sunset" endings. These are few and far in between. Yet, after learning the ropes and getting the hang of the Art of Bao, I think a conclusion that can be reached is that unless you're looking for a lifetime commitment (assuming you have no CO in your home camp to contend with, legally or otherwise, as a result), this neon world of KTVs is a place where we should just fix your bayonet and charge at the selected target. After all, the KTV scene is one graphic example of having "many fish in the sea". No sense losing sleep, emotion or self-esteem pining over any failed attack. Heck, the next time, just show up at the same place where the unyielding MM works and get a better one right in front of her!!

One of the first bao candidates I had (it lasted 3 years here and then in the Mainland) told me quite candidly at the start, 人是不能在KTV找到真爱 - you ain't gonna find true love in a KTV. That gal was dead right. Us batang are mainly in this for the nooky.

Hooters666

03-10-2010, 05:49 PM

warbird

05-10-2010, 02:50 AM

................................
Very happy to stumble onto this thread. Looks like lotsa wisdom and lobang!

I agree very much with bro Warbird's approach quoted above. IMHO, PRC MM are essentially here to make it with their bods - some are more explicit (ala at GL), some less (singers etc). The brutal truth is that they are practically all willing to let some dude get their honey, but have different asking prices only.

The trouble seems to be the imperfect market. Some MM undersell: witness the KO solid good lookers we wag our tongues at in what some would class "low end" places or even streetwalkin at GL. Others oversell: the types that lead to threads we have on those ice-queen heartache generating types. To add to the chaos, we cheongsters have our individual learning curves ....................
Speaking from my own hard experience, it is easy in each of our green and blur days at the beginning (no offence to those natural lady-killer types), to mistake a love affair for the $$$ transaction going on. Of course, SBF has threads about exceptions and cheongsters heading to ROM with some MM as "riding into the sunset" endings. These are few and far in between. Yet, after learning the ropes and getting the hang of the Art of Bao............. this neon world of KTVs is a place where we should just fix your bayonet and charge at the selected target. After all, the KTV scene is one graphic example of having "many fish in the sea". No sense losing sleep, emotion or self-esteem pining over any failed attack. Heck, the next time, just show up at the same place where the unyielding MM works and get a better one right in front of her!!

One of the first bao candidates I had (it lasted 3 years here and then in the Mainland) told me quite candidly at the start, 人是不能在KTV找到真爱 - you ain't gonna find true love in a KTV. That gal was dead right. Us batang are mainly in this for the nooky.

Bro Dragonkeep,

You agree w/ my approach? Haha, u really make my day!

I greatly appreciate ur insightful comments on PRC MMs n their flesh trade in S'pore. You had a 3-yr RS w/ one mistress? How did u do it? Mine never lasted more than a few months. I need to pick ur brain n hope that u could be a regular contributor to this thread. I do hv many questions for u.

Although u r new to SBF, u hv tremendous experience n wisdom in cheonging n BY-ing, much more superior to my inadequate n often failed experience, as my 1st encounter w/ a PRC MM was in 2007 n my 1st visit to a KTV was 2 yrs ago. I'm still an armchair general trying to get more hands-on field experience...

The flesh trade is a most inefficient market, even less efficient than the very inefficient stock market, largely as a result of the complex factors u hv enumerated. In addition to the fact that one man's meat is another man's poison n the mysterious Rashomon Effect, KC n gong tao may frequently be involved which make the outcome between every patron-PRC MM encounter most unpredictable...

Let's start w/ the lower end of the spectrum, low in damage but not necessary in looks, figure n service. Among the most beautiful PRC MMs I hv met r 4 very inexpensive whores: A 20 yo SH gal from sex141 in HKG, 2 Sichuan FLs, aged 19 n 21, at or near L8/Talma Rd in GL n a legal Cat 150 22 yo gal from SZ. Their services ranged from good to excellent...three of them accepted my offer for BY but I just couldnt go to China to complete the deal. Nowadays I hv to visit TAM complex 3-4 times just to find one gal who is mildly interesting. I prefer pretty n tall SYTs (aged 18-22) n there is a dearth of these creatures...they r fast becoming extinct.

On the high end of the spectrum r some ang pai singers/gals at some famous HFJs/KTVs. High in damage only but not in looks, figure n service. They r generally much older as well...they r women not gals. I heard from my frens n my BAO-ees that some of these women hv made over a million SGD in a relatively short time. I hv seen some ang pais n I hv to scratch my head as to what the fxk is going on?!! Must be gong tao.

But hope springs eternal. Many old n ugly PRC women (I can't call them MMs) also want to try their luck here bcos u never know, they may meet n "gong tao" a sucker into giving 100-200k up front, before even touching them!

Lastly, sexual culture/behaviour n moral values must be very different in China. I'm an ah pek, much older than almost all my mistresses' parents who r usually in their 40s. And most of the parents know exactly what their daughters r up to. Take the example of my niece BB whose dad is only 43...I was taken aback when he wanted to thank me personally for taking such good care of her! I also spoke w/ KX's dad who is a chef n owns a restaurant...oh, you're her BF from S'pore? She is out n u could call her other HP...!!

One other thing. In my personal experience, all healthy n heterosexual PRC MMs including virgins, regardless of her occupation. educational level n status here, r looking to be BAO-ed by a man. I had a 19 yo NUS Presidential Scholar who asked me to keep her! I had detailed my exploit w/ her towards the end of last yr.

Cheers!

Bro Warbird & other likeminded bros

Many thanks for the discussions and sharing of info here. I got to blame myself for missing this fabulous thread in sbf. Guess I m hanging around FL and GL section for too long. Spent my Sunday afternoon going through as much information while listening to Tong Li CD.hehe

Well I m kind of tired by the legal and FL scene and wanna explore the dangerous game bying. Let me go through bmt first.

Thx!

HI Bro Hooters66,

HI bro,

Welcome aboard!

BY-ing is a lot more dangerous to ur emotional n financial well being. I'm still struggling to get it right after 16 months of BY-ing saga. But it's more fun, more GFE, etc.

If the RS lasts more than a couple of months, there will be at least some KC involved, which may be one-sided or a two-way traffic. Your self control is crucial.. Never fall in love w/ a WL. If u can't control ur heart n ego, you will be at risk...

For me, pursuing n tasting pretty pussies of my type is only a small part of BY-ing. It's a fun game n a business operation, hehehe. Additionally, I also enjoy going to a flat n see my young mistress walking around, perhaps cooking dinner for me, completely nude or scantily clad w/ only a T-shirt n wearing nothing underneath, hehehe. After dinner n resting, we would take shower together n then would usually make love for couple of hrs....I then like to see her disappointment when I said I couldn't stay overnite...is it worth the much higher damage? I dun really know, sometimes yes n sometimes no...

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

05-10-2010, 10:32 PM

Bro Dragonkeep,

You agree w/ my approach? Haha, u really make my day!

I greatly appreciate ur insightful comments on PRC MMs n their flesh trade in S'pore. You had a 3-yr RS w/ one mistress? How did u do it? Mine never lasted more than a few months. I need to pick ur brain n hope that u could be a regular contributor to this thread. I do hv many questions for u.

Although u r new to SBF, u hv tremendous experience n wisdom in cheonging n BY-ing, much more superior to my inadequate n often failed experience, as my 1st encounter w/ a PRC MM was in 2007 n my 1st visit to a KTV was 2 yrs ago. I'm still an armchair general trying to get more hands-on field experience...

The flesh trade is a most inefficient market, even less efficient than the very inefficient stock market, largely as a result of the complex factors u hv enumerated. In addition to the fact that one man's meat is another man's poison n the mysterious Rashomon Effect, KC n gong tao may frequently be involved which make the outcome between every patron-PRC MM encounter most unpredictable...

Let's start w/ the lower end of the spectrum, low in damage but not necessary in looks, figure n service. Among the most beautiful PRC MMs I hv met r 4 very inexpensive whores: A 20 yo SH gal from sex141 in HKG, 2 Sichuan FLs, aged 19 n 21, at or near L8/Talma Rd in GL n a legal Cat 150 22 yo gal from SZ. Their services ranged from good to excellent...three of them accepted my offer for BY but I just couldnt go to China to complete the deal. Nowadays I hv to visit TAM complex 3-4 times just to find one gal who is mildly interesting. I prefer pretty n tall SYTs (aged 18-22) n there is a dearth of these creatures...they r fast becoming extinct.

On the high end of the spectrum r some ang pai singers/gals at some famous HFJs/KTVs. High in damage only but not in looks, figure n service. They r generally much older as well...they r women not gals. I heard from my frens n my BAO-ees that some of these women hv made over a million SGD in a relatively short time. I hv seen some ang pais n I hv to scratch my head as to what the fxk is going on?!! Must be gong tao.

But hope springs eternal. Many old n ugly PRC women (I can't call them MMs) also want to try their luck here bcos u never know, they may meet n "gong tao" a sucker into giving 100-200k up front, before even touching them!

Lastly, sexual culture/behaviour n moral values must be very different in China. I'm an ah pek, much older than almost all my mistresses' parents who r usually in their 40s. And most of the parents know exactly what their daughters r up to. Take the example of my niece BB whose dad is only 43...I was taken aback when he wanted to thank me personally for taking such good care of her! I also spoke w/ KX's dad who is a chef n owns a restaurant...oh, you're her BF from S'pore? She is out n u could call her other HP...!!

One other thing. In my personal experience, all healthy n heterosexual PRC MMs including virgins, regardless of her occupation. educational level n status here, r looking to be BAO-ed by a man. I had a 19 yo NUS Presidential Scholar who asked me to keep her! I had detailed my exploit w/ her towards the end of last yr.

Cheers!

HI Bro Hooters66,

HI bro,

Welcome aboard!

BY-ing is a lot more dangerous to ur emotional n financial well being. I'm still struggling to get it right after 16 months of BY-ing saga. But it's more fun, more GFE, etc.

If the RS lasts more than a couple of months, there will be at least some KC involved, which may be one-sided or a two-way traffic. Your self control is crucial.. Never fall in love w/ a WL. If u can't control ur heart n ego, you will be at risk...

For me, pursuing n tasting pretty pussies of my type is only a small part of BY-ing. It's a fun game n a business operation, hehehe. Additionally, I also enjoy going to a flat n see my young mistress walking around, perhaps cooking dinner for me, completely nude or scantily clad w/ only a T-shirt n wearing nothing underneath, hehehe. After dinner n resting, we would take shower together n then would usually make love for couple of hrs....I then like to see her disappointment when I said I couldn't stay overnite...is it worth the much higher damage? I dun really know, sometimes yes n sometimes no...

Cheers!

Bro WB

I am just full of admiration for Bro WB....you are an inspiration to me...and always enjoyed your excellent sharings....

MoralEpitome

05-10-2010, 10:36 PM

Bro Warbird & other likeminded bros

Many thanks for the discussions and sharing of info here. I got to blame myself for missing this fabulous thread in sbf. Guess I m hanging around FL and GL section for too long. Spent my Sunday afternoon going through as much information while listening to Tong Li CD.hehe

Well I m kind of tired by the legal and FL scene and wanna explore the dangerous game bying. Let me go through bmt first.

Thx!

Bro I understand what you are going though...like you and perhaps many other bros...we started off with ST...and immediate gratification....but after a couple of years we get sick of it...we want more....we want the thrill....we want the exclusivity of a pussy....trust me it's a dangerous game....and you may be easily gong tao and suddenly be sucked into a deep black hole...no pun intended....for me I had also been very prudent with spending my money on such pussies and would not overspend on them....but during a stage when I was so into her....I spend 3x on her what I would spend on other girls...so have fun! not to mention it also affects your r/s with your family...

somefools

06-10-2010, 12:49 AM

recently my PRC chai (once again) lost her hard earned money to our IRs, she wanna me make up for lost if not she said she no mood to work. Knn. Immediately I told her, she wanna buy this that I will buy but she wanna ask for money. No way. She wanna break up so no meaning! I said okay then....

Night time she sms me saying sorry I broke your heart. Call me and I did not pick up. knn...

MoralEpitome

06-10-2010, 08:36 AM

prcsytlover

06-10-2010, 12:48 PM

hahaha......I suggest you buy Genting shares to make up for the money....
er.. but i thot he say he did not give her the money... it's her who lose money not him leh...

prcsytlover

06-10-2010, 01:01 PM

Looking thru this thread , reminds me of a old old story..

there was once a young 18yo pretty young gal who got a 50s suggur daddy. 1 fine day, she found out that she was pregnant.

The old man say lets meet up with ur dad(who was a farmer).

So the gal went home to tell her dad that she was pregnant n the father was a old man in his 50s.Also he will be coming later to see him. Her dad is so angry and slap her and say will break the old man's leg if he see him. how can my son in law be older than me he shouted!!

then the old man arrive in a very big car. Dad was supprise to see such a big car, and immeditely change his attiube n invites the old man in.

The old man then tells the dad his terms.

If she gives me a boy, I will give u $1M. and the son will take over my bussiness.
if she gives me a gal, I give u $1/4M. and a house.
If she gives me a boy n gal, I will give u all the above mention.
But is she loses the child, u will get nothing.

suddenly the dad pulls the hand of the old man and say, dun worry.. if she loses the child, just fuck her again!!! ha ha

hope u enjoy the story. :)

warbird

07-10-2010, 02:06 AM

I am just full of admiration for Bro WB....you are an inspiration to me...and always enjoyed your excellent sharings....

ME大哥，

哈哈.....你言重了.不必客气.我没你说的那么行啦。。。

Bro I understand what you are go， ng though...like you and perhaps many other bros...we started off with ST...and immediate gratification....but after a couple of years we get sick of it...we want more....we want the thrill....we want the exclusivity of a pussy....trust me it's a dangerous game....and you may be easily gong tao and suddenly be sucked into a deep black hole...no pun intended....for me I had also been very prudent with spending my money on such pussies and would not overspend on them....but during a stage when I was so into her....I spend 3x on her what I would spend on other girls...so have fun! not to mention it also affects your r/s with your family...

Hi Bro ME,

You're describing exactly what I hv gone tru...

I crave exclusivity which is both costly n dangerous. Knock on wood...so far I hv not been "gong-tao-ed."

recently my PRC chai (once again) lost her hard earned money to our IRs, she wanna me make up for lost if not she said she no mood to work. Knn. Immediately I told her, she wanna buy this that I will buy but she wanna ask for money. No way. She wanna break up so no meaning! I said okay then....

Night time she sms me saying sorry I broke your heart. Call me and I did not pick up. knn...

Hi bro,

Get away from her asap..

Looking thru this thread , reminds me of a old old story..

there was once a young 18yo pretty young gal who got a 50s suggur daddy. 1 fine day, she found out that she was pregnant.......................................... ....................

suddenly the dad pulls the hand of the old man and say, dun worry.. if she loses the child, just fuck her again!!! ha ha
hope u enjoy the story. :)

Hi bro prcsytlover,

Great story!! It happens daily in real life...

A few of my mistresses hv offered to hv my babies for a hefty fee. I hv politely declined. However, if a uni student happens to be my type of SYT n is a verified virgin n/or non-WL, I may go for it, hehehe.;)

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

07-10-2010, 10:03 PM

warbird

09-10-2010, 01:54 AM

BRO WB you would consider a virgin/non WL bearing you a child? Interesting!

Life been boring for me lately...my "mistress" has left me after I screwed her after she realise that I don't really have intentions to take care of her in the way she wants...haha.....been searching high and low for a replacement but a bit tired of the playing game... found a 20 year old girl but she waste time refuse to let me screw as mentally she's just not prepared for it yet....so I cut loss and found another young FJ girl....not bad....slim and petite and have a certain class to her but I think also waste time sort...basically a vase........I think it's time to change joint.....on my way out to fetch my OC from Raffles Place....saw an esteem bro in his black stallion probably fetching his Cai.....you guys have all the luck! hahaha

Hi Bro ME,

Yes, I would like to hv more kids even though I already hv 2 grown sons. I'm a ah pek, what hv I got to lose?

Some bros do hv all the luck. But luck favors the prepared mind n these bros r also high up on the Male Dominance Scale n hv the right strategies n self mastery...hahaha.:cool:

I dun envy them. I admire them n want to emulate them.

Hope that u get all the pussies u want,

Cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. ....................................

Good morning!

The young BAO-ee I left behind still wont talk to me. Sex w/ her has been steamy n wonderful but she is very emotional n often moody.

I'm beginning to miss KX who is from a SW province of China. She has a very jovial n positive personality...n of course very pretty pink pussy. I want her to return 10 days before me bcos she is on WP n can't be away too long. I hope I'm not getting gong-tao-ed by her.

My "niece" BB will be coming too, no pun intended. I still dun hv the experience of keeping 2 full-time mistresses under one roof. That is unfortunate as I hv a very nice 2-bd rm condo within walking distance from my principal residence. It would save time n money if they could accept each other n live together...not to mention that I could do 双飞 every day!

I know Chairman Austin n bro LDH r masters in multiple RS. That is the ultimate test of dominance n manhood, IMHO.

Have a great day!!

Bro WB

Dragonkeep

09-10-2010, 03:57 PM

Bro Dragonkeep,

You agree w/ my approach? Haha, u really make my day!

I greatly appreciate ur insightful comments on PRC MMs n their flesh trade in S'pore. You had a 3-yr RS w/ one mistress? How did u do it? Mine never lasted more than a few months. I need to pick ur brain n hope that u could be a regular contributor to this thread. I do hv many questions for u.

Although u r new to SBF, u hv tremendous experience n wisdom in cheonging n BY-ing, much more superior to my inadequate n often failed experience, as my 1st encounter w/ a PRC MM was in 2007 n my 1st visit to a KTV was 2 yrs ago. I'm still an armchair general trying to get more hands-on field experience...
Bro WB

Honourable Bro WB,

Apologies for not reverting sooner. Was stuck at the frontlines of work and cheonging, and had little time for reflection and AAR(!). Am penning this after a 2nd consecutive night with this Fuzhou babe from LV, with her perfume still lingering in the nostrils! Noting your venerable nick full of campaign medals/ ribbons, I'm sure you are well placed to dispense all kindsa tips in your own right.

Your reply raises a good number of issues that I am more than glad to trade notes with you over. Never too old to learn, even for us 老uncles (gahmen also say must foster a constantly self-improving society). I guess I'd best reply by separate posts to the different questions/ topics posed.

On the length of any RS, my 'lil old experience tells me it ought to become (in the ideal case) a question of when we batang wanna call it off. Like wine, we blokes generally get better with age whereas the MM is fighting time, so my take is that we got the starting advantage in calling the shots on time. Trouble is, once either side gets bored or too desperate, that tends to lead to the breakup. I'm of course not sure how your RS ended and who turned the switch off (i.e. whether you got sian of the thing or what). There are also the MM out there who may feel they are reaching the end of their marketability and decided to throw in the ultimatum and demand permanent commitment "or else". Some have the "balls" (figuratively of course, hopefully heh heh) to carry out the threat to walk out. I'm sure there are other scenarios but this is just from observation.

The 3-year RS was mainly one where we hit off real good whilst she was here. Started in those good ol days where you could check out your potential bao right past de undies at the KTVs. She was one of those taut bodied, firm B cuppers (me not being a big boob fella) with a wonderful tight butt and nice none too hairy pussy plus a tight snatch. The shiok angle was the main pull factor for me. As things turned out, the MOM put an end to this phase of things. That was a few months of disrupted work, desperate afternoon hot and heavy dalliances and late night flings for me. It was actually increasingly tough to get home before the kiddies and OC got up from slumber at sunrise (and still concentrate at work!). Boy, what a period of heavy addiction. In the end, MOM had her pass revoked and voila - problem solved.

Our contact changed to a pattern of monthly honeymoons whenever I went over the old home country for work and we had our run of hotels all over China. Must have created a real goody goody impression on my Chinese counterparts at that time of such a well behaved fella - if only they knew I was dashing back to the hotel to get real hot action!! Those multiple 24hour period stints naturally left them ding dongs flat out of jism whenever I got on the homebound bird.

Trouble is, RS1 quite adroitly observed, 新加坡有太多女人 (too many fish in S'pore waters). Before long, things were getting a little too close for comfort with her getting too clingy etc. Spotted a good replacement for RS1 before long and just before things got too entangled, I bailed out and am now having a good time with RS2 over there.

It was kinda sad to drop RS1 and her unique bod but hey, time did move on for her and I could not see her being on a pension scheme of any sorts. Sad whilst it was, I can't say the bailout was the wrong choice at all. Which comes back to why I fully agree with your attitude bro!

Be glad to share more on RS durability if you wanna talk about how they ended for ya.

Other posts to come ...

Dragonkeep

09-10-2010, 04:39 PM

Bro Dragonkeep,

Let's start w/ the lower end of the spectrum, low in damage but not necessary in looks, figure n service. Among the most beautiful PRC MMs I hv met r 4 very inexpensive whores: A 20 yo SH gal from sex141 in HKG, 2 Sichuan FLs, aged 19 n 21, at or near L8/Talma Rd in GL n a legal Cat 150 22 yo gal from SZ. Their services ranged from good to excellent...three of them accepted my offer for BY but I just couldnt go to China to complete the deal. Nowadays I hv to visit TAM complex 3-4 times just to find one gal who is mildly interesting. I prefer pretty n tall SYTs (aged 18-22) n there is a dearth of these creatures...they r fast becoming extinct.

On the high end of the spectrum r some ang pai singers/gals at some famous HFJs/KTVs. High in damage only but not in looks, figure n service. They r generally much older as well...they r women not gals. I heard from my frens n my BAO-ees that some of these women hv made over a million SGD in a relatively short time. I hv seen some ang pais n I hv to scratch my head as to what the fxk is going on?!! Must be gong tao.

Bro WB

You're again spot on IMHO on the supply side problems these days.

Right till early '09 (if memory serves) you could have an eye boggling pick of any WL from the L8-Lor Talma-L14 locality. Those streets were just so jam packed with incredible babes.

Didn't have the balls to go long term with those but did have a frequent flyer relationship with one solid bod dongbei WL at the Hotel Darlene area. Of course there was the drill about sending her for "VIACOM" checks but somehow never got round to doing it, coz we kept getting the timing off!

The diehards that pop up at those roads are still quite a sight I gather. When I brought some LV/TAM types for some recent educational tours there, even they remark on how good looking those women are! Had to specifically warn one particularly horny one I had that she would be off the bonk list if I ever saw her on duty there!

So far, have kept fishing generally to Havelock and Royce. Have snooped around Textile Centre and Selegie a bit, but somehow found the more atas types at Havelock. But even so, it's sometimes hard to figure how much effort and investment it takes to be assured that the current target would be bonkable and worth keeping, cause as you say in one of the threads above, you can't get to the last entrenchment to checkout the final objective at the first assault these days until some heavy preparatory fire has been done - quite $$$ intensive sometimes.

Mummies can at times give a heads up on who is easier to make quick headway with, but then again, with such a migratory population I get the impression it's hard for them to keep track too. If you can find a way to solve this, it would save a lotta effort/ $$$ and I'd be heaps grateful! There were even times after dismissing 3-4 parades that I had to say, "Let's head to the loo" and mummy and I would go walk by the assembly areas for the MM to see if there are any worth sizing up instead of pre-arranged parades in the rooms.

One other way has been to get a multiple close-up selection on butterfly probation and to see how things go. Had a couple of them at C Infinitude last week. One on the left was unabashedly declaring she was looking for a boyfriend. That one was late 20s (FF). The one on my right (co-incidentally using the same F name - no obscenity intended, but called Xiao F) is a 21 yo Snake. She seemed less 'hot' on things. Surprise surprise, I'm getting follow up service calls from XF (but not FF) though I am still sizing her out.

I see you're a leading exponent in the art of tackling SYTs. Unfortunately, I seem to get on well with the mid-20s types and have not had your kind of charm with those around-20 types. Maybe one day I should pm you and get on down with ya to some KTV to look and learn from how you snag those little damsels.

Regarding singers, my RS2 was a singer from a HFJ - wha lou. Bloody heavy $$$ outlay, so am squeezing the max from it. Next RS ain't gonna be through that route. Confirming RS2 was tricky. I got to buy RS2 a bra once before she did her full monty so had some degree of comfort that the knockout figure I was constantly seeing in her formal li fu (gown) was not some bloody padded mirage. The slender legs, arms and fingers pointed to a great bod. When I had the first full viewing, wooah man - dem eyeballs near dropped out dude. There was a pair of perky firm Bs - with my kinda small pink topping! Funny though (and she blames me for this) her teats have become more distinct after 1+ years of marathon sessions in China, though still with the smallest possible areolas. Like RS1, both are very wet women and that seems to be quite a standard hallmark of practically all the MMs I've had except for one "professional" that I was motivated to RTF from a L30 house.

warbird

15-10-2010, 12:33 AM

Honourable Bro WB,

Apologies for not reverting sooner.........................................

Be glad to share more on RS durability if you wanna talk about how they ended for ya.

Other posts to come ...

Hi esteemed bro dragonkeep,

Sorry for not replying earlier due to my heavy work schedule.

Yeah, we men generally become more worthy n valuable w/ age, whereas these young pussies hv a very limited shelf life...their value n marketability generally decline rapidly after the age of 25 n, sadly for them, there is little residual value left after childbirth.

I hv BY-ed 17-18 PRC MMs since last May. The BY-ing periods were quite brief last yr, from 1-4 wks n they still continued to work. However, since Jan this yr I hv kept them full-time n for much longer, over 2 months for most. I hv had 2 or 3 at the same time.

Why did I change my strategy this yr? Change may be the wrong word, I hv been evolving. Two reasons. Firstly, there hv been fewer gals of my type n I end up keeping them longer. Secondly, I hv begun to realize that RS w/ the right gals gets better as time passes, sexually n emotionally. It's great fun n an exciting experience...It has all advantages of getting married w/o many of the disadvantages, hehehe. Imagine getting married to a new gal every 2-6 months w/o the negative consequences!

But having a secure n private flat (at least a master bdrm) w/ ur mistress is crucial. It's like home where u two could enjoy a much better RS...

IMHO, longer term BY-ing has its risks n is not for the faint of heart. You need to hv good control over ur heart n ego, otherwise u will suffer financially n emotionally.

How did my RS w/ my gals end? I terminated the RS in over half of them for a variety of reasons. In 1/3 of cases the RS ended bcos either the gal or I left the country. BTW, I live in Gotham City n spend abt 2/3 of my time in S'pore. Several gals dumped me for different reasons. The gal in my avatar, KK, fell in love w/ a young classmate, a 老乡, when I was overseas. They had my blessings...but, unfortunately, their RS is very strained n mostly miserable.

BTW, I hv ongoing RS w/ two gals who r now in PRC but will come back to be my full-time mistresses on my return to S'pore. BTW, I'm also tired of running around n will "settle down" w/ these 2, hopefully for 12 months or longer. Will I eat outside? Sure, if the gal is really pretty n my type. May hv to keep her as my No 3, hahaha. What the heck, I'm just trying to emulate Chairman Austin n Bro LDH.

For some strange reason, most of my BAO-ees r kinesthetic, a few r auditory n only one visual. Being a visual, I hv had a lot of problems n conflicts w/ most of them, even though they r highly attractive to me. They r romantic n want to hv the right feelings n ambiance when making love...several complained that I'm a heartless n unemotional man n just want to make love to them. What is wrong w/ that? But I'll try to be more caring, passionate n romantic, hehehe. It's never too late for an old dog to learn new tricks. The young mistress that I left behind said that: 我只是一个小女孩，我更需要生活上的热心和感动...I believe she is back to work at LV /CI. She is very emotional n moody...but I do miss her young pussy!

Cheers!

Bro WB

You're again spot on IMHO on the supply side problems these days..............................

Like RS1, both are very wet women and that seems to be quite a standard hallmark of practically all the MMs I've had except for one "professional" that I was motivated to RTF from a L30 house.

Hi bro dragonkeep,

Are there still pretty SYTs at or near L8/Talma? According to my research there r pretty SYTs who stay mostly indoors, inside the hotels, n only available in the wee hrs when I'm asleep.

I hv not done ST for quite some time. It's too commercial. I crave exclusivity n the elated feelings of honeymoon, hehehe.

Over the past 12 months, several mummies hv tried to procure my type of gals for BY at TAM/CI/LV n at DC. I hv been disappointed except for one tall Fujian SYT whom I met last Dec. She was 21, 170 n 52kg. Very sexy body n long, nice legs. But she wanted to be paid monthly, not wkly. So no deal. I heard she just came back...

I do hv some questions for u.

1) How do u pay ur mistresses? Wkly, monthly?

2) Do u keep them in a private flat/master bdrm?

3) Do u do them raw? Do they take the pill?

4) When they request gifts or extra money for whatever reasons, what do u do?

5) Of course they r exclusive to u. But do u also eat outside? What if they find out?

I'm thinking of keeping the 2 gals under one roof, something I hv never done before I need advice from esteemed bros here.

Cheers!

Bro WB

DO_YOU_BJ

15-10-2010, 01:34 AM

I'm thinking of keeping the 2 gals under one roof, something I hv never done before I need advice from esteemed bros here.

Hi Master WB, currently in LA, just had my breakfast & have sometime before I head out to the office & saw this post, damn, have not logged in for a bloody long time man.
I can see that you're in some kind of dilemma here.
Getting more than 1 girl to stay together, under normal circumstances, like yours truly is already a big challenge.
It take lots of time and patience and very DEEP MINDFUCKING to get things to go your way. But thank god your situation is not like that!

For your case, remember, these 2 are not officially your wives, so that is also a bonus.....in my eyes that is.
These 2, whom i'm sure i've not met, are gonna be your full time BYs, so in that lite, it's actually easier and more manageable than actually trying to put all your wives under the same roof.
Although I've BY more than 1 singer at anyone time more than once, i never bother whether they actually stay together, cos rent is their own prob hahahaha but yours not singer, so different application.

Here's my personal recommendation to you:

1) Let them know of both their Existance
2) Bring them out together all the time for starters and let them communicate without your intervention, let them 培养姐妹感情, so during this time, just keep quiet & watch! You'll immediately see who's alpha and beta between the 2!
3) Let both know you are BYing both of them are they're part of your Harem
4) Try to turn all their focus to your needs rather than theirs, convenience and monetarily
5) MindFuck them nice and proper that no doubt you BY them, you treat them nothing short of your real wife! Ego booster lol
6) Tell them the advantages of them staying together, logistically as well as for you, can be wif them all the time, except the bedroom part. FYI, i never have threesomes or shuangfei's wif my wives, this is called respect and honestly, that was never my forte. I'm a one-on-one kinda guy, so this area, someone else gotta intervene liao
7) Sit down and negotiate, of course, dun give a rats ass of what they say, but just act diplomatic but in the end, it's still your way or the highway!
8) Last, say you cant be wif them 24/7, so it'll be good to know that one can watch over the other, in this light, you'll also feel safe all the time!

Downside:
My only concern is that, both get on so well and they collude rip your arse apart without your knowledge and you will be wearing the biggest green hat on the planet!

Guess that's all i can think of for now!
Remember the golden rule, dun & never sacrifice for their pussy, make them sacrifice their EVERYTHING, for you!

DO_YOU_BJ

15-10-2010, 01:36 AM

The 3-year RS was mainly one where we hit off real good whilst she was here.

Bro Dragonkeep, 3yr RS, respects, respects, you sure r more brave than me.......this is too close for comfort in my book!

warbird

17-10-2010, 01:34 AM

Hi Master WB, currently in LA, just had my breakfast & have sometime before I head out to the office & saw this post, damn, have not logged in for a bloody long time man.
I can see that you're in some kind of dilemma here.
Getting more than 1 girl to stay together, under normal circumstances, like yours truly is already a big challenge.
It take lots of time and patience and very DEEP MINDFUCKING to get things to go your way. But thank god your situation is not like that!............................................. .................................

Here's my personal recommendation to you:

1) Let them know of both their Existance
2) Bring them out together all the time for starters and let them communicate without your intervention, let them 培养姐妹感情, so during this time, just keep quiet & watch! You'll immediately see who's alpha and beta between the 2!
3) Let both know you are BYing both of them are they're part of your Harem
4) Try to turn all their focus to your needs rather than theirs, convenience and monetarily
5) MindFuck them nice and proper that no doubt you BY them, you treat them nothing short of your real wife! Ego booster lol
6) Tell them the advantages of them staying together, logistically as well as for you, can be wif them all the time, except the bedroom part. FYI, i never have threesomes or shuangfei's wif my wives, this is called respect and honestly, that was never my forte. I'm a one-on-one kinda guy, so this area, someone else gotta intervene liao
7) Sit down and negotiate, of course, dun give a rats ass of what they say, but just act diplomatic but in the end, it's still your way or the highway!
8) Last, say you cant be wif them 24/7, so it'll be good to know that one can watch over the other, in this light, you'll also feel safe all the time!

Downside:
My only concern is that, both get on so well and they collude rip your arse apart without your knowledge and you will be wearing the biggest green hat on the planet!

Guess that's all i can think of for now!
Remember the golden rule, dun & never sacrifice for their pussy, make them sacrifice their EVERYTHING, for you!

Hello Chairman Austin,

Ths so much for ur advice. You're indeed the authority on multiple RS!

I would appreciate if u could elaborate on "deep mindfxking." Pls PM me if u dun want others to know too much, hehehe.

Actually u might hv seen one of them before. She is my distant niece BB who had worked for a few months at DC earlier this yr. I posted a pic showing her body n slim/long arms 4-5 months ago.

Nowadays, I just want to be a confidently dominant man w/ self mastery. When the 2 gals come I'll get them together...n go from there. Last Sep my young fren drove me, my 2 part-time BAO-ees n another gal to a hotel to see the F1 nite race, it was a fiasco as both gals didn't say a word to each other...n one of them excused herself n left early. It's a different ballgame now as both gals will be totally dependent on me. Although I'll give them the same payment every month, the fringe benefits r somewhat different as one is on a student visa n the other WP.

Putting both of them under one roof will save me time n money n, last but not least, my vital energy. OK, I'll treat them just like my real wives n will buy them some gifts for exceptional services...

Double pleasure, double expenses n double trouble! Yeah, I'm aware of the downside n a possible big green hat. But no venture, no gain...of course my goal is to get both of them addicted to me.;)

I'll use 希望计. If they r faithful n give me complete satisfaction, after one yr, I'll give each gal extra $$ for a substantial down payment for a nice condo in China. Fair deal?

How long will u be in LA? Your US HP number?

Best regards,

Bro WB

DO_YOU_BJ

17-10-2010, 04:00 AM

I can still be contacted on the number you have.
My US number is strictly for biz use only, sorry.
Please see my reply to you below in RED

Hello Chairman Austin,

Ths so much for ur advice. You're indeed the authority on multiple RS!

I would appreciate if u could elaborate on "deep mindfxking." Pls PM me if u dun want others to know too much, hehehe.

This involved conditioning their mind to your needs more than theirs.
As this is a BY arrangement, prepare a carrot at the end of the rod.
Of cos, this will be the last resort, cos another carrot means more $$$$$, this is something we dun wanna get ourselves in now do we?????
Lots of conv and brainwashing will be at play, remember, your emotion n needs over theirs, their every action and reaction will tell you who is agreeable to this under one roof arrangement and who's not!
Like i said, even for such WLs, they have their pride too, so this is where lots of negotiations will have to take place.

Actually u might hv seen one of them before. She is my distant niece BB who had worked for a few months at DC earlier this yr. I posted a pic showing her body n slim/long arms 4-5 months ago.

Nowadays, I just want to be a confidently dominant man w/ self mastery. When the 2 gals come I'll get them together...n go from there. Last Sep my young fren drove me, my 2 part-time BAO-ees n another gal to a hotel to see the F1 nite race, it was a fiasco as both gals didn't say a word to each other...n one of them excused herself n left early. It's a different ballgame now as both gals will be totally dependent on me. Although I'll give them the same payment every month, the fringe benefits r somewhat different as one is on a student visa n the other WP.

Sorry, i dun think i remember which one, u hv so many lolzzzzzzzzzz
The fact that one excused herself is already a sign of discomfort, n this is prob the inferior one or the one who will jump ship the fastest. You gotta work on this one most! You need to make her feel more COMPLETE than the other.
I remembered not too long ago when i was BYing 2 singers, one was always wanting the door out cos she didnt like the arrangement and the other was always there back and call, the way i did was lots of emotional & financial entrapment on her to make her heel, whether she liked it or not, hey, i didnt really care, most importantly, i FUCKED her the most cos i could sense she was going all out to prove her worth to me and also, showing that she's better than the other. Remember, there is still a confidence issue between WLs, so this part, use the I like u more approach.
I used the responsibility card to corner them actually.
Told both I like both.
Told both I already promised and committed to both.
Told both 1 out means all out, wan in all in!
Walla
Bro Tanterry shud know, that was when i was having SO MUCH FUN lol

Putting both of them under one roof will save me time n money n, last but not least, my vital energy. OK, I'll treat them just like my real wives n will buy them some gifts for exceptional services...

Double pleasure, double expenses n double trouble! Yeah, I'm aware of the downside n a possible big green hat. But no venture, no gain...of course my goal is to get both of them addicted to me.;)

I would agree wif you on this part, its the best deal to have all under one roof, saves time and lots of money.
How you wanna manage it is your call, but hey, welcome to a BIG FAMILY mentality, though not real wives hahaha

I'll use 希望计. If they r faithful n give me complete satisfaction, after one yr, I'll give each gal extra $$ for a substantial down payment for a nice condo in China.

Be very mindful of this approach WB, DO NOT let this 希望计 backfire on yourself. For you to apply this, you already have implanted 希望 in yourself for returns, so be very AWAKE!
人算不如天算!

Fair deal?

How long will u be in LA? Your US HP number?

Best regards,

Bro WB

Too generous in my book but hey, like i always say, you're the nice guy like LDH & I'm the devil hahahaha
I'll be here for a while, got some legal shit here to resolve before i go back, may even miss XMAS or Happy 2011 for all I know....see how it goes

Dragonkeep

17-10-2010, 09:54 AM

Bro Dragonkeep, 3yr RS, respects, respects, you sure r more brave than me.......this is too close for comfort in my book!

Got kinda addicted to her bod boss ;) ... anyhow, bailed out and pulled the ripcord just as she was getting too many long term ideas!! BTW I take my hat off to you re: your double bao feat. You sure are one helluva pro. Gotta queue behind Bro WB to see how this can be pulled off ...

Dragonkeep

17-10-2010, 10:33 AM

Hi esteemed bro dragonkeep,

Are there still pretty SYTs at or near L8/Talma? According to my research there r pretty SYTs who stay mostly indoors, inside the hotels, n only available in the wee hrs when I'm asleep.

I hv not done ST for quite some time. It's too commercial. I crave exclusivity n the elated feelings of honeymoon, hehehe.

Over the past 12 months, several mummies hv tried to procure my type of gals for BY at TAM/CI/LV n at DC. I hv been disappointed except for one tall Fujian SYT whom I met last Dec. She was 21, 170 n 52kg. Very sexy body n long, nice legs. But she wanted to be paid monthly, not wkly. So no deal. I heard she just came back...

I do hv some questions for u.

1) How do u pay ur mistresses? Wkly, monthly?

2) Do u keep them in a private flat/master bdrm?

3) Do u do them raw? Do they take the pill?

4) When they request gifts or extra money for whatever reasons, what do u do?

5) Of course they r exclusive to u. But do u also eat outside? What if they find out?

I'm thinking of keeping the 2 gals under one roof, something I hv never done before I need advice from esteemed bros here.

Cheers!

Bro WB

My impression is that the really great times for L8-Talma-L14 died out from Q1 last year. Nowadays the survivors pop up along the L8-Talma Hotel Darlene vicinity and along L14, usually at some unearthly time when us dudes are mostly in slumberland. You can still see some gems there though. The one I used to shag the most has vanished - her 2-yr "singer" pass having expired (did all her soprano acts in orgasm though). Pity I did not get her mainland number. On the happier side of things, Gov clearance for PRCs to man the GL houses provides some compensation, although during the few times a pal and I cheonged at these houses, we did not really find the WLs there to be as good (appearance wise) as those that used to line the streets. SBF FRs may prove us wrong! One of my RTF WLs at L30 told me it's a helluva tough job working at those houses - such WLs officially cannot go out on dates. Many are on 2-year tours of duty. Most split from here before the time is up 'cause of the psych damage from doing the job for so long. Maybe that's why the better lookers wise up and operate elsewhere.

Re: the Q&A

1) Monthly
2) In PRC - either at hotels at places where business takes me or the apts I invested in at their hometowns
3) After checkin out for RS1/2, no CD - just tracked their periods - got a chart for that! Factor that into my trip planning too;) Have not done the local candidates in Sing raw though.
4) Negotiate - something extra, something given.
5) Since RS1/2 are confined to the mainland, it's open season back here for me. If they find out, then she either accepts it or hits the road. Can always audition some of the current Singapore ones for RS3 and so on I guess.

I'm quite bothered by the lack of good supply. I have a few I'm investing in but when measuring them against RS1/2, it's tough. If you know any good lobang for supply, do pm me.

Bedded the 21 yo snake last week, but she was kinda starfishy - could use some improvement on her GFE. Moving her back to the KIV tray.

Watching with great interest how your both under one roof plan is going to work out. Now that calls for real balls of steel. Wow.

warbird

19-10-2010, 03:40 AM

I can still be contacted on the number you have.
My US number is strictly for biz use only, sorry.
Please see my reply to you below in RED

Yes, Mr. Chairman.

[/QUOTE]This involved conditioning their mind to your needs more than theirs.
As this is a BY arrangement, prepare a carrot at the end of the rod.
Of cos, this will be the last resort, cos another carrot means more $$$$$, this is something we dun wanna get ourselves in now do we?????
Lots of conv and brainwashing will be at play, remember, your emotion n needs over theirs, their every action and reaction will tell you who is agreeable to this under one roof arrangement and who's not!
Like i said, even for such WLs, they have their pride too, so this is where lots of negotiations will have to take place.[/QUOTE]

Thank you, you're a Grandmaster of conversational persuasion n covert hypnosis, hehehe. I'll do my best...

I'll make sure my emotional n sexual needs take precedence over theirs...I'll behave like a gentleman n be respectful, but deep down they r my sex slaves.

Oh, my 2 gals also hv a lot of pride n dignity n rather fragile ego. You will be surprised that some of these PRC MMs/WLs want to fulfill their deep emotional needs such as self esteem ( 面子？）n ego which may be more powerful than their craving for money...

Cheers!

[/QUOTE]Sorry, i dun think i remember which one, u hv so many lolzzzzzzzzzz
The fact that one excused herself is already a sign of discomfort, n this is prob the inferior one or the one who will jump ship the fastest. You gotta work on this one most! You need to make her feel more COMPLETE than the other.
I remembered not too long ago when i was BYing 2 singers, one was always wanting the door out cos she didnt like the arrangement and the other was always there back and call, the way i did was lots of emotional & financial entrapment on her to make her heel, whether she liked it or not, hey, i didnt really care, most importantly, i FUCKED her the most cos i could sense she was going all out to prove her worth to me and also, showing that she's better than the other. Remember, there is still a confidence issue between WLs, so this part, use the I like u more approach.
I used the responsibility card to corner them actually.
Told both I like both.
Told both I already promised and committed to both.
Told both 1 out means all out, wan in all in!
Walla
Bro Tanterry shud know, that was when i was having SO MUCH FUN lol[/QUOTE]

Great advice from Chairman Austin!

You might not hv seen my niece BB, some of my frens/bros hv though. On Fri 22 Jan this yr, after a session w/ her, I brought her to DC rm K6 at HH, my frens including an old towkay were there. I told BB to leave after 9:15PM n I joined bros marc6 n LDH in another rm for SH. You were supposed to come but u couldn't make it. KK came to be w/ me after 9:30PM...

I brought the 2 part-time BAO-ees together in Sep 2009 n both of them r back in PRC. My current 2 full-time gals hv never met each other.

I'll weigh the pros n cons of housing them under one roof before I take any action.

I believe I'm addicted NOT to any gals but to the game of BY-ing. Yes, I'm not addicted to sex but to BY-ing...

With my 2 full-time mistresses coming...btw, they r both young, tall, pretty n slim, my type of pussies, why am I still searching n proposing BYs to other MMs? Should I go slow? I enjoy the game so much...;)

[/QUOTE]I would agree wif you on this part, its the best deal to have all under one roof, saves time and lots of money.
How you wanna manage it is your call, but hey, welcome to a BIG FAMILY mentality, though not real wives hahaha

A big happy family, hehehe.

Be very mindful of this approach WB, DO NOT let this 希望计 backfire on yourself. For you to apply this, you already have implanted 希望 in yourself for returns, so be very AWAKE!
人算不如天算![/QUOTE]

You're right!

[/QUOTE]Too generous in my book but hey, like i always say, you're the nice guy like LDH & I'm the devil hahahaha
I'll be here for a while, got some legal shit here to resolve before i go back, may even miss XMAS or Happy 2011 for all I know....see how it goes[/QUOTE]

Me nice guy? Not really, some gals think that I'm heartless...n a devil. I'll give an example:

About a month ago, while I was driving the other gal KX home...

WB: KX, 明天介绍我的好朋友，一个大老板给你。。。

KX: 为什么？(sounds displeased)

WB: 我不久要去美国两个月，你不要回国啦，留在新加坡，我朋友可以照顾你，(I was going to add that he is also tall, only a couple of yrs older, at least 179 n has a big tool...)

KX: 你什么意思？我不要！(irritated)

WB: 他做大生意，以前还是医生，是社会名流，比我有钱多了，

KX: 你侮辱我，我不是做小姐的。。。你们去找小姐好了！(definitely angry)

WB: 我不是有意的，小宝贝不要生气哦。。。

KX: 你好狠心哦。。。(looks dejected, even sad)

I manged to pacify her...hahaha.

I never brought up the subject again...but I really wanted to procure her to be my fren's mistress，despite my liking her pink pussy a lot.

Why? My pal is a business tycoon (not my other fren, the old towkay who frequents DC complex), who is well known in SE Asia n is chairman n CEO of a multi-billion $ company. He is very busy...he trusts me 100% n knows I hv lobang n requests that I get a gal for him. KX would be a good match as she is at least 170 n abt 53kg. In return, he will give me some shares for a mere token, at least worth 200k net to me. How could I refuse? I hv since intro a tall n pretty 24 yo PRC model for him. She has never been to S'pore n wants 60K RMB a month to come. Dun know if she will come. I hope I'll not be mistaken for an OKT, hehehe. The fact is that I would hv done the same if he didn't promise a single share to me. He is a pal n I hv known him for decades...

Me too generous? I dun know, I hv only made such a promise to BB. If she is 100% faithful n treats me like a king for 1 yr, why not?

I'm sure u will resolve all the legal issues satisfactorily.

Ths again n take care,

Bro WB

My impression is that the really great times for L8-Talma-L14 died out from Q1 last year. Nowadays the survivors pop up along the L8-Talma Hotel Darlene vicinity and along L14, usually at some unearthly time when us dudes are mostly in slumberland. You can still see some gems there though...........................Most split from here before the time is up 'cause of the psych damage from doing the job for so long. Maybe that's why the better lookers wise up and operate elsewhere.

Re: the Q&A

1) Monthly
2) In PRC - either at hotels at places where business takes me or the apts I invested in at their hometowns
3) After checkin out for RS1/2, no CD - just tracked their periods - got a chart for that! Factor that into my trip planning too;) Have not done the local candidates in Sing raw though.
4) Negotiate - something extra, something given.
5) Since RS1/2 are confined to the mainland, it's open season back here for me. If they find out, then she either accepts it or hits the road. Can always audition some of the current Singapore ones for RS3 and so on I guess.

I'm quite bothered by the lack of good supply........ If you know any good lobang for supply, do pm me........................

Watching with great interest how your both under one roof plan is going to work out. Now that calls for real balls of steel. Wow.

Hi bro Dragonkeep,

Ths for ur feedback n answers.

The gals at L8/Talma Rd, until Q1 last yr, were much younger n prettier than those currently available at legal houses. Their services were limited, though much improved if one paid $200 for 60 min. I used to visit them as my BY-ing had not started until May last yr. In terms of looks n figure, more than a few met my criteria for BY. I hv also seen many dozens of Cat 150 gals/women, despite some fantastic FRs, only 2 gals r up to standards: Sugar at 2060 n Linda at W04. Both r back in China. No FRs ever written on them though.

Good lobang? I know quite a few in PRC, hehehe. Many I hv never met, only seen their pics. I hv "met" them by video calls though. Also learned a lot abt PRC n what make them tick...

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

21-10-2010, 03:02 AM

Greetings from Gotham city!

I hv manged to clear a mountain of paperwork since returning here n now hv more free time, haha.

A pretty gal is like a cat. If u approach her, she may retreat. If u adore her, she may play hard to get. If u become clingy n needy, she will surely run away, even if you're handsome n rich, hahaha. Why? She is scared of u bcos she doesn't want to lose her freedom or get hurt physically. The right approach? Show that u r a relaxed, dominant male. You're sexual...n safe, be witty, unpredictable n mysterious; tease n flirt w/ her, then ignore her completely. Use push-pull. Play hard to get bcos you're the PRIZE...there is always a younger n prettier pussy in the near future.

Let me digress...I like to make a confession. I hv been “CLOUDED BY BEAUTY-VISION” all my life. :confused:

I began to hv sexual feelings towards gals when I was abt 13. What attracted me was a gal's looks, figure n body/limb proportions, to the exclusion of everything else, meaning that I completely ignored her personality, temperament, character, educational level, etc. Of course, I might be influenced by her voice, body scent n friendliness, at least subconsciously. I wasn't interested in getting to know or understand her as a person. I only wanted to fxk her asap, w/ no strings attached. Big mistake, at least in some cases. I wasn't after companionship, feelings or GFE, etc. Am I a primitive animal? I hv been "sharking" for pussies all my life, whether they r WLs or non-WLs...I know some men who r just like me, but I'm aware that many men r different, especially the romantic type, hahaha. Good for them. I'm learning their methods...no, I can never be like them, but I can give the perception that I'm romantic, hehehe.

The one problem w/ many exceptionally beautiful gals/women is that they often lack inner character, intellect n higher n/or professional education. Their physical beauty appears to be inversely proportionate to their educational level. A very beautiful gal has had an easy life since early teens, adored by every man, young n old alike. Why does she need to study or work hard? Has anyone met a very pretty gal w/ PHD in computer science from MIT or is an American board-certified neurosurgeon? I hv not, after spending decades in Gotham country.

Fortunately, due to my dad's influence n direct intervention, I did give some consideration to a gal's educational level n family background when choosing my OC. I say fortunate bcos I might hv married a very beautiful n tall 21 yo Teochew gal in Taiwan. She was a uni student all right but she probably had been kept by a rich towkay.:eek:

IMHO, a man should NEVER hv a sexual RS w/ a gal whose looks n figure r not attractive to him. Never, ever settle for less. However, in addition to physical attractiveness, he should give equal weights to her other attributes, including educational level, personality, character, family background...

I'm also aware of the saying, "baggers can't be choosers," n according to the classic Chinese novel The Water Edge, 且说鲁达自离了渭州，东逃西奔，急急忙忙，行过了几处州府，正是“饥不择食，寒不择衣，慌不择路，贫不择妻。” What to do?...yes, a very poor man will take any woman as wife, If he is lucky to get one. BTW, I was driving one of my mistresses to see her GF near City Square Mall n along the way, I saw many young PRC male laborers, w/ dark tanned skin, all wearing nothing but shorts, squatting or sitting down, idling n smoking, w/ blank n listless expressions. Unfortunately, they will hv a hard time getting a wife/GF...like many young men of lower social-economic status in China.

Life is ironic. I'm counting my blessings...in my old age, I'm having more pretty mistresses than I could possibly handle, whereas just one of them would hv been a godsent when I was a 20 yo student bursting w/ testosterone. And then there r so many angry, sex-starved young PRC men.

Yes, PRC. The amazing country. I'm planning to spend half my time there within 1 yr. I'll be spoilt for choice for keeping 18-19 yo SYTs as my mistresses, hehehe.:D

Recently, a guru sent me a msg entitled "ARE YOU CLOUDED BY BEAUTY-VISION?" which struck a chord w/ me. I did some introspection n soul-searching. I'll post his msg in its entirety. (To be continued).

warbird

21-10-2010, 07:50 AM

ARE YOU “CLOUDED BY BEAUTY-VISION”?

You’ve no doubt heard the term “tunnel vision” before. When affected by said condition, a person can only focus on one narrow fixation to the exclusion of all else. If you are on the last lap of the Grand Prix de Monaco shadowing Lewis Hamilton’s McLaren for the checkered flag as if the Mercedes logo were crosshairs, then tunnel vision is a good thing.

In other areas of life, not so much. If the dessert cart at The Cheesecake Factory instills tunnel vision in you—or the blackjack table at The Mirage—then there’s a distinct possibility that healthy balance will be lost.

And for us guys, the extent to which we focus our attention on a woman’s physical beauty can very easily cause us to lapse into a similar trance. Call it a state of being “clouded by beauty vision”.

Now allow me to make myself abundantly clear. Guys are wired to desire physically attractive women. I am certainly no exception. By all means we should never, ever “settle” when it comes to spending our time with a woman who we genuinely find easy on the eyes.

But somewhere along the road of never “settling” in this area, something UNsettling tends to happen. When we encounter any random example of the absolute most physically stunning woman on Earth, it’s mind-bending how often we’re perfectly happy assuming that’s ALL she has to offer us.

It’s not that she isn’t intelligent or otherwise talented as a human being. The issue is simply as I stated it. We tend to focus on her beauty to the exclusion of all else.

But here’s where it gets weird. Often times, even a beautiful woman HERSELF will begin to base her self-worth mostly on her physical appearance. Having been extended “special treatment” her entire life by the vast majority of men (and perhaps even most women) who kowtow to her every whim, she believes her beauty to be “enough” to get her through life.

In her mind, doing the heavy lifting necessary to cultivate character depth or even a hint of a winsome personality isn’t just a low priority, it’s flat-out irrelevant. After all, her outward beauty indeed serves her well. Her “social proof” is so indelibly secured as a “beautiful woman” that adding further dimensions to her overall level of sharpness is seen as having no real impact. And indeed, in a shockingly high percentage of instances it truly doesn’t.

Why?

Well certainly everyone—man or woman—is ultimately responsible for his or her actions and conduct.

But let’s face it. Women respond to men who LEAD. And we as guys have provided the exact kind of leadership that made what we’re talking about in this report possible. By falling all over ourselves to get close to a pretty woman and cater to her needs, vast numbers of beautiful woman have simply learned to respond accordingly.

This pattern pervades our world in many ways—not just in our dating lives. You even find evidence of it in the workforce.
For example, I think we’ve all met the woman in the short skirt who routinely outperforms the rest of her fellow sales force…even if she isn’t the most knowledgeable about the product.

As her customers, we may meet with such a woman hoping for more and openly express resentment or even disgust towards this state of affairs. Yet, the ways of the world continue…and we might even find ourselves inviting her back for another sales call and buying from her.

Well, as long as the majority of guys out there gladly hand over all of their dignity to female beauty, the world will continue to revolve as advertised.

The crazy part is that since women also demand a man who they can respect, the perpetuators of this machine are exactly the same guys who largely have ZERO chance at actually succeeding at getting close to a beautiful woman. Go figure.

Lest we believe this is a gender specific thing, consider the male equivalent of what I’m talking about here. Let’s assume for a moment guy is, say, blessed with having great wealth.
Despite whatever else the fabric of his identity is composed of, he finds that when it comes to what people want out of him there’s a distinct common denominator: It’s usually all about his money.

He soon discovers that whatever his overall demeanor, his ability to manipulate the masses with cold-hard cash remains constant, at least for the most part. After all, his acquaintances are “clouded by dollar vision”. “Mean People Suck?” That’s the mantra of the “little people”. This guy begins to believe that he was born to be a “cash dispenser”, and that becomes enough for him like it long has been for others around him.

But thankfully there are gracious multi-billionaires out there who truly have great depth and make the world a better place wherever they go.

And yes…there are also fantastically beautiful women out there who have the inner character to match. These are women who instinctively know that more depth equals a higher quality life overall. Not coincidentally, such women
usually have hearts of gold—caring immensely about others. They’re the ones who make great girlfriends, wives and mothers even as they rock your world in the sack.

These are also the women who men like you and I are always particularly proud to have as partners, even when we walk into a room full of other people. They’re so much more than “trophies” or “arm candy”. And our lives are enriched so much more deeply as a direct result of choosing a woman like that.

Find such a woman and you discover exactly what why we focus so much on deserving what you want around here. Can you deserve such a woman? Is that even a priority? Or are you “clouded by beauty vision”?

Be Good,

Mr. XYZ

gigigagago

22-10-2010, 03:36 AM

Greetings from Gotham city!

I hv manged to clear a mountain of paperwork since returning here n now hv more free time, haha.

Glad to hear!

A pretty gal is like a cat. If u approach her, she may retreat. If u adore her, she may play hard to get. If u become clingy n needy, she will surely run away, even if you're handsome n rich, hahaha. Why? She is scared of u bcos she doesn't want to lose her freedom or get hurt physically. The right approach? Show that u r a relaxed, dominant male. You're sexual...n safe, be witty, unpredictable n mysterious; tease n flirt w/ her, then ignore her completely. Use push-pull. Play hard to get bcos you're the PRIZE...there is always a younger n prettier pussy in the near future.

Wise words. I've always believed that what has worked for me thus far is my ability to be comfortable in my own skin, having humour (and sometimes at my own expense), aware of own capabilities and treating women with respect but never a pushover for them to piss all over my head. I'm not desperate or needy, so it's always easy for me to extend them a fair battle of wits and any kinda challenge from the softer gender.

The one problem w/ many exceptionally beautiful gals/women is that they often lack inner character, intellect n higher n/or professional education. Their physical beauty appears to be inversely proportionate to their educational level. A very beautiful gal has had an easy life since early teens, adored by every man, young n old alike. Why does she need to study or work hard? Has anyone met a very pretty gal w/ PHD in computer science from MIT or is an American board-certified neurosurgeon? I hv not, after spending decades in Gotham country.

Just sharing though, admittedly, I'm very partial towards women with the smarts, and can hold a witty debate, carry herself well, sure of what she wants and may I also unabashly add, with a pretty face. I'm easily attracted to women who try to do the push-pull with me when I do the same. It gives me a metaphorical hard-on anytime. I love that they try to test if I'm the one. The high that you get when they're convinced and you give them the withrawal symptoms... is simply orgasmic. I mean, I have to win at the final lap of course, if not it's not fun already. Hahaha. All guys should try to achieve this. Not only does it give you immense confidence, it also almost secures you a deserving woman.

IMHO, a man should NEVER hv a sexual RS w/ a gal whose looks n figure r not attractive to him. Never, ever settle for less. However, in addition to physical attractiveness, he should give equal weights to her other attributes, including educational level, personality, character, family background...

A gem of wisdom from Big Brother warbird again. My experience (albeit short, considering I'm only in my late 20s) tells me that, usually women (read: bimbo) who are not very smart and are easy lays, are usually clingers. Smart women, who usually know what they want, are usually in the same game as you do. Therefore, when the clinger alarm goes off in your head, don't even pick up your pants man, just locate the door and run!

I'm also aware of the saying, "baggers can't be choosers," n according to the classic Chinese novel The Water Edge, 且说鲁达自离了渭州，东逃西奔，急急忙忙，行过了几处州府，正是“饥不择食，寒不择衣，慌不择路，贫不择妻。”

Well, life is never fair. Since when has life been fair? Even if Justice Bao were alive, he can't guarantee peace on earth too. (Sidenote: Dear Excellency, if you're hearing this please do not be offended. I'm merely making a figurative assumption. And might I also ask what you're doing in Sammyboyforum?) Yue Fei had never been treated most fairly, Helen Keller made her own bed and as far as I know, had a most eventful and purposeful life than anybody I personally know. We have four limbs, a brain and a heart, and also the same 24hrs in a day as with all great men ever known... It's what we do with them that matters. Time spent whining could be put to better use, like drinking cyanide or slitting the carotid artery.

Life is ironic. I'm counting my blessings...in my old age, I'm having more pretty mistresses than I could possibly handle, whereas just one of them would hv been a godsent when I was a 20 yo student bursting w/ testosterone. And then there r so many angry, sex-starved young PRC men.

No bro, you're being extremely humble again. I'm sure you got your hands dirty and feet wet when you're young(er), hence now is the time to reap your harvest. If you're not suckling at the teat then it's blasphemy. Fence-sitters probably are still too lazy even to find cyanide.

Want to be successful with women? Act and think successful. Get the hands out of the pants and get out there and DO! There's enough time for one to lay six feet under, so sitting around isn't too sexy now. GO OUT THERE AND DO! MY MESSAGE TO THE YOUNGER CROWD IS THIS: BEING AN INFORMATION JUNKIE REAPS YOU NO REWARDS - BE LONG ON PRACTICE AND SHORTER ON THEORY INSTEAD. :D

MoralEpitome

22-10-2010, 09:45 AM

Hmm....so insightful.....lub this thread deep deep....hahaha..... impt to know what you want....at the moment I decided to invest more into my family, myself and other investments and will go for ST and not waste unneccesary money on Bao Yang or Fang Yang...in the words of Warren Buffet "That dollar you save today can be worth millions in the future".....when I reach that millions....then will emulate Bro WB and keep multiple BYs....hehe...meanwhile will just stay inspired by bro WB, BYBJ, Marc5 and LDH....btw keep running into Bro LHD with different chio bus at Peace Centre hahaha.....his harem is really extensive!

Dragonkeep

22-10-2010, 12:57 PM

Greetings from Gotham city!

Let me digress...I like to make a confession. I hv been “CLOUDED BY BEAUTY-VISION” all my life. :confused:

IMHO, a man should NEVER hv a sexual RS w/ a gal whose looks n figure r not attractive to him. Never, ever settle for less ...

"Never,ever settle for less ...". Great conclusion above. I like. Should have it framed up. Unfortunately, unlike the rare few natural lady-killers we have all grown up alongside (envied the types since ever hormones started taking over my dickie), many of us acquire the wisdom above after bitter experience and gad zillion nights of sitting back and wondering what we did wrong. For some of us, that can take decades and many tears later. Nowadays, hopefully as many bros in SBF as possible can finally be fully in the game and enjoying it from the experiences shared here - before nature really sticks it to us. Hmmm, maybe nature intended guys to slow down just as we get the hang of the game, to prevent too many of the weaker sex dying by the droves of heartache facing too many blokes who get the hang of the game too early. There's justice for you.

gigigagago

22-10-2010, 01:46 PM

... ... ... Nowadays, hopefully as many bros in SBF as possible can finally be fully in the game and enjoying it from the experiences shared here - before nature really sticks it to us. Hmmm, maybe nature intended guys to slow down just as we get the hang of the game, to prevent too many of the weaker sex dying by the droves of heartache facing too many blokes who get the hang of the game too early. There's justice for you.

Word. And that's why this thread, and also Bro justime's (if anybody remembers), are so interesting. Striking a chord with the readers is one thing, but having many people sharing their stories and "strategies" help shorten a newbie's learning curve and avoid unnecessary heartaches, especially when it's due to the lack of information.

However, imho, I still believe the biggest difference between the younger crowd and the matured gentlemen around here is that, the young spends too much time on theory, acting the know-it-all, but when it comes to the crunch time, many falter and become fluff because of the lack of practice (and strangely from self-deluded confidence), while the matured gentlemen are definitely more proactive and doing instead of thinking.

In the game of BY, the ball game deals heavily with power struggle from your competitors, and also the mms. Over here, having the money is the prerequisite, and then holding your ground with the other soft skills that the many esteemed bros here have so graciously shared. They have even upped the ante by showing how one can best utilised one's war chest at the most optimal level without breaking the bank.

Without a doubt this is a thread I personally follow most closely ever since joining the forum. Thus far, I've only had game in the pubbing and clubbing scene, and after reading the thread, a desire of hopping onto the BY scene has manifested and grown on me. Emulating all the big brothers here is something I'm definitely working towards. :cool:

Last but not least, I share from Lao Tzu: "Knowing others is wisdom, knowing yourself is enlightenment".

Cheers! :D

warbird

23-10-2010, 02:13 AM

To esteemed bros dragonkeep, gigigagago n ME,

Ths so much for ur thoughtful n erudite posts. I hv learned a lot from all of u!

Quite busy now, will give my 2 cents later.

Cheers!

Bro WB

gigigagago

23-10-2010, 06:01 PM

To esteemed bros dragonkeep, gigigagago n ME,

Ths so much for ur thoughtful n erudite posts. I hv learned a lot from all of u!

Quite busy now, will give my 2 cents later.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Haha Big Brother warbird, your words are definitely too kind. Work is more important. You're doing this out of goodwill and leisure anyway.

Take care and rest well!

___

Oh, and guess what, I got a disapproval on one of my previous posts over here (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=5328912&postcount=1561). This attention comes as a slight pleasant surprise. While I don't believe the points could be exchanged for cashcard credit or petrol vouchers, I'd still like to be evaluated on my comments and gamely welcome any healthy discussion.

The accompanying comment for the disapproval was pretty intellectual and ashamedly, my shallow mind couldn't handle the intense sophistication behind it.

Sharing with all:

"OLD Cockhead gigigagao! Younger Crowd fuckup izit?!"

Wow, now that's mind-boggling isn't it? For the lesser people, it'd probably take half a century of solitary meditation in a secluded cave to be enlightened of the wisdom behind it. While many would chuckle and be amused at the comment, I choose to accept diverse opinions, from all ages with various life experiences and IQ levels (single digit also can).

In that particular post, I talked about how the younger crowd and the matured individuals worked, solely based on my observation and experience. I said,

"...the young spends too much time on theory, acting the know-it-all, but when it comes to the crunch time, many falter and become fluff because of the lack of practice (and strangely from self-deluded confidence), while the matured gentlemen are definitely more proactive and doing instead of thinking".

Now, given how the author of the comment reacted (sorry, I meant dispensed with wisdom), he must belong to either one of the two categories:

1. A young punk getting defensive and presumptuous upon reading stuff that undermines his status and magnifying his insecurities.

2. A matured gentleman misreading my post as sticking up for the younger people, probably due to his misplacement of 老花眼镜 or Piracetam.

Before I address it proper, let me reiterate that I'm in my late-20s (the reactive young punk probably missed this), and my disdain of the young being too much of an information junkie, is meant to serve as a reminder to my demographics that being afraid to try is not sexy at all. We have ample time to lay under the hill so if we choose to be dormant and expect success by sitting on the fence, lapping theories up but refusing to get to the ground and exercise that knowledge, we would only have the success rate of achieving full democracy in Singapore (just kidding, I meant the success rate of Chee Soon Juan becoming Prime Minister). ;)

My take is that the comment most probably came from a younger individual, who missed the part where I mentioned I'm in my late-20s. My first suggestion is to speak to an optometrist. He likely thought that I was a matured gentleman "talking down" and undermining the capabilities of youngsters, and it's easy for him to do so because of the higher congregation of esteemed matured gentlemen over here in this thread.

My second suggestion would then be, dude, give your insecurities a rest. By being reactive and taking sides immediately shows resistance to being comfortable to accept diverse views and that is insecurity. There must be something about yourself that you're bitter about, hence the swift reaction of getting defensive and clouding your own judgment (and also eyesight, I'm serious). Most people make decisions to avoid pain rather than seeking happiness, go figure. May I also add that a physiologist would do you some good. You got my nick wrong. I'll take that back if it's really due to poor eyesight. :D

Also, by emphasizing on the word "OLD", and the subsequent name-calling in your comment, give us a clear indication of how skewed your perception of the many gentlemen in this thread who have taken time and effort to offer suggestions and ideas to help people get a heads-up. If your insecurity is in the way, avoid calling names to expose that. Bitter medicine works. No one should nanny you by now.

I'm young too, but I'm able to accept the shortcomings of being. Only by facing them, do you have the basis of conquering. Anyway, should you fancy an eyeball session I'm more than happy to appear. Just drop me a PM. Don't be one of those who horned loudly behind that steering wheel just because you can, but when invited to exit the vehicle (highly likely paid for by your daddy), you speed off and pee in your pants. :cool:

Cheers!

P.S: Please do not "up" my points or whatever. Not my perogative to get points. Just needed to address this individual's agesim. Disapprovals are welcomed though. Thank you!

Loving_Dickhead

23-10-2010, 06:23 PM

Welcome to this modern sophisticated world; materialistic, fenced-up minds, egoistical, insecure minded and everything else that follow.

I have enjoyed your sharing so do not let one or two "smallies" spoil the sharings and fun. I have had my fair share of being zapped anyway, but as many esteemed bros know the way - do the points really matter?. It just goes to show what type of folks are lurking behind the monitor thats all.

As usual, have fun bro.

Cheers,
LDH :)

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Haha Big Brother warbird, your words are definitely too kind. Work is more important. You're doing this out of goodwill and leisure anyway.

Take care and rest well!

___

Oh, and guess what, I got a disapproval on one of my previous posts over here (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=5328912&postcount=1561). This attention comes as a slight pleasant surprise. While I don't believe the points could be exchanged for cashcard credit or petrol vouchers, I'd still like to be evaluated on my comments and gamely welcome any healthy discussion.

The accompanying comment for the disapproval was pretty intellectual and ashamedly, my shallow mind couldn't handle the intense sophistication behind it.

Sharing with all:

"OLD Cockhead gigigagao! Younger Crowd fuckup izit?!"

Wow, now that's mind-boggling isn't it? For the lesser people, it'd probably take half a century of solitary meditation in a secluded cave to be enlightened of the wisdom behind it. While many would chuckle and be amused at the comment, I choose to accept diverse opinions, from all ages with various life experiences and IQ levels (single digit also can).

In that particular post, I talked about how the younger crowd and the matured individuals worked, solely based on my observation and experience. I said,

"...the young spends too much time on theory, acting the know-it-all, but when it comes to the crunch time, many falter and become fluff because of the lack of practice (and strangely from self-deluded confidence), while the matured gentlemen are definitely more proactive and doing instead of thinking".

Now, given how the author of the comment reacted (sorry, I meant dispensed with wisdom), he must belong to either one of the two categories:

1. A young punk getting defensive and presumptuous upon reading stuff that undermines his status and magnifying his insecurities.

2. A matured gentleman misreading my post as sticking up for the younger people, probably due to his misplacement of 老花眼镜 or Piracetam.

Before I address it proper, let me reiterate that I'm in my late-20s (the reactive young punk probably missed this), and my disdain of the young being too much of an information junkie, is meant to serve as a reminder to my demographics that being afraid to try is not sexy at all. We have ample time to lay under the hill so if we choose to be dormant and expect success by sitting on the fence, lapping theories up but refusing to get to the ground and exercise that knowledge, we would only have the success rate of achieving full democracy in Singapore (just kidding, I meant the success rate of Chee Soon Juan becoming Prime Minister). ;)

My take is that the comment most probably came from a younger individual, who missed the part where I mentioned I'm in my late-20s. My first suggestion is to speak to an optometrist. He likely thought that I was a matured gentleman "talking down" and undermining the capabilities of youngsters, and it's easy for him to do so because of the higher congregation of esteemed matured gentlemen over here in this thread.

My second suggestion would then be, dude, give your insecurities a rest. By being reactive and taking sides immediately shows resistance to being comfortable to accept diverse views and that is insecurity. There must be something about yourself that you're bitter about, hence the swift reaction of getting defensive and clouding your own judgment (and also eyesight, I'm serious). Most people make decisions to avoid pain rather than seeking happiness, go figure. May I also add that a physiologist would do you some good. You got my nick wrong. I'll take that back if it's really due to poor eyesight. :D

Also, by emphasizing on the word "OLD", and the subsequent name-calling in your comment, give us a clear indication of how skewed your perception of the many gentlemen in this thread who have taken time and effort to offer suggestions and ideas to help people get a heads-up. If your insecurity is in the way, avoid calling names to expose that. Bitter medicine works. No one should nanny you by now.

I'm young too, but I'm able to accept the shortcomings of being. Only by facing them, do you have the basis of conquering. Anyway, should you fancy an eyeball session I'm more than happy to appear. Just drop me a PM. Don't be one of those who horned loudly behind that steering wheel just because you can, but when invited to exit the vehicle (highly likely paid for by your daddy), you speed off and pee in your pants. :cool:

Cheers!

P.S: Please do not "up" my points or whatever. Not my perogative to get points. Just needed to address this individual's agesim. Disapprovals are welcomed though. Thank you!

MoralEpitome

23-10-2010, 08:47 PM

Reputation like any business needs time and credibility to be build up....I started with minus 10 points too....and no worries....everyone is entitled to their own views...this is just a forum and do not get too upset if kena zapped...

Hooters666

23-10-2010, 10:38 PM

Gigigagago

Let those ball less dudes shunk in one corner drowning themselves in self pity. Your contribution is nothing less than excellent especially coming from a late 20 dude. Your level of maturity and advanced knowledge of the rules of the game certainly surpassed your peers or at least myself when i was at your age or maybe even now ( humbly admitting here). Your harvest of harem will come in a matter of time. Keep the tips coming.

All:Besides conquests of singers, have anyone attempt to BY those prc stewardess flying for SQ. I think those are good balance in terms availability since they will not be around 50% of the week so you got time for family or other "families".

Again thanks to all for your sharing. I m learning heaps from here.

gigigagago

24-10-2010, 12:54 AM

gigigagago

24-10-2010, 01:21 AM

All:Besides conquests of singers, have anyone attempt to BY those prc stewardess flying for SQ. I think those are good balance in terms availability since they will not be around 50% of the week so you got time for family or other "families".

Again thanks to all for your sharing. I m learning heaps from here.

Bro Hooters666, my opinion, based on my personal friends (Singaporeans though) who are also flying now, is that because of the nature of their job, they don't have a stable boyfriend. 4 out of the 6 flight attendants I personally know and are close with have regular "friends with benefits" or "fuck buddies", whichever is more intimate to you. They love flying and being free. So, if I were you, unless I know the potential BY-ee herself personally, I doubt I would want to extend the offer of BY-ing as the exclusivity of her pussy is in question, and also, she may really like her job. KTV hostesses, again in my opinion (and short experience) only, largely do not love their job passionately. They just wanted to earn as much asap to clear debts and then save for future endeavours. Therefore, the platform is there to easily negotiate a deal (as compared to flight attendants).

Of course, this is just but my solitary opinion and there are many 高人s here to offer their take. Regard mine with a pinch of salt when theirs come along.

Cheers! :D

Loving_Dickhead

24-10-2010, 12:51 PM

Haha, Bro LDH, while the comment from that ageist came as a pleasant surprise, yours was totally unexpected! And most definitely flattering. Didn't foresee the Prince of HFJ to actually come offer a vote of confidence and encouragement.

Thanks man, I'm never gonna stop having fun. You go get some too! :cool:

Hi bro Gigigagago! Me seldom in HFJs nowadays, retired liaoz because I found a partner and companion. Or perhaps I am tired of the nite scene or have at least, seen too much of the on-going stories, lies and actions. As for Prince of HFJs... I am not honoured to have such a nick, its time for another lion like you bro to take over. :D

Best,
LDH :)

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Loving_Dickhead

24-10-2010, 12:56 PM

Bro Hooters666, my opinion, based on my personal friends (Singaporeans though) who are also flying now, is that because of the nature of their job, they don't have a stable boyfriend. 4 out of the 6 flight attendants I personally know and are close with have regular "friends with benefits" or "fuck buddies", whichever is more intimate to you. They love flying and being free. So, if I were you, unless I know the potential BY-ee herself personally, I doubt I would want to extend the offer of BY-ing as the exclusivity of her pussy is in question, and also, she may really like her job. KTV hostesses, again in my opinion (and short experience) only, largely do not love their job passionately. They just wanted to earn as much asap to clear debts and then save for future endeavours. Therefore, the platform is there to easily negotiate a deal (as compared to flight attendants).

Of course, this is just but my solitary opinion and there are many 高人s here to offer their take. Regard mine with a pinch of salt when theirs come along.

Cheers! :D

To add on, the question for the bro Hooter666 is "why do gals wanna come all the way from their homeland to work as KTV gals?" Another one, "why would gals take on job as a Flight Attendant?"

Bro Gigigagago has hit the right spot on the love of flying and freedom for the gals to pick a job as a flight attendant. They are hard to control and would almost likely, non-exclusive. They would prefer to fly around more for the purpose of fun and of course, the flight allowance.

For KTV gals, what they were before they wanted to be a KTV gal? Why they come along all the way from China etc etc? Work along the lines of my questions and you get your answer on BY.

Cheers,
LDH :)

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gigigagago

24-10-2010, 03:11 PM

Hi bro Gigigagago! Me seldom in HFJs nowadays, retired liaoz because I found a partner and companion. Or perhaps I am tired of the nite scene or have at least, seen too much of the on-going stories, lies and actions. As for Prince of HFJs... I am not honoured to have such a nick, its time for another lion like you bro to take over. :D

Best,
LDH :)

.

Haha you retire liao still got Chairmain DYBJ and many other legendary heroes... Where got need and place for me to cheong tao (冲头)? Small fries like me ao ber dong zui (后尾顶水) happy bird already... Learning as much as I can lah. ;)

But I'm really keen into the hybrid version of BY now... Like $1.5k-$3k/mth for the chick, while she still can work, can fuck around, but when I call she must appear. Once I get into the property market and get a good rented place then will consider exclusive pussy. Now let me just get my feet wet first. :D

othniel

24-10-2010, 06:21 PM

MoralEpitome

24-10-2010, 06:36 PM

Hi guys!

Am not sure if anyone of you have been to Club Jade recently but if I am not wrong, two ex-dancers from DC are there as singers. One of which, if I did not remember wrongly, was supported by the "young lion". Not sure if that young lion was there though or knew that she is back in Club Jade though..

LOL....I don't know because the young lion is very discreet...but sometimes see them take a romantic stroll down sophia road...the young lion is very sharp one la...he sure know....

MoralEpitome

24-10-2010, 06:40 PM

Hi bro Gigigagago! Me seldom in HFJs nowadays, retired liaoz because I found a partner and companion. Or perhaps I am tired of the nite scene or have at least, seen too much of the on-going stories, lies and actions. As for Prince of HFJs... I am not honoured to have such a nick, its time for another lion like you bro to take over. :D

Best,
LDH :)

.

Yes...seems like many bros retired or busy with their projects....I also want to quit or spend less money on such things.....until hopefully I reach my personal target on other things....alot of meaningful things to do in life other than just fucking pussies....although I know I won't completely stop but I don't want to lay or get laid into the KC trap at the moment...it's too distracting...

warbird

25-10-2010, 02:07 AM

Good morning!

I'm speechless, hehe. So many insightful posts! You make my day! Pls keep it up.

I'm learning something NEW n SEXCITING everyday...:D

..... warbird, your words are definitely too kind. Work is more important. You're doing this out of goodwill and leisure anyway.....

Oh, and guess what, I got a disapproval on one of my previous posts over here...................................
Sharing with all:

"OLD Cockhead gigigagao! Younger Crowd fuckup izit?!".................................................. ...........

Hi bro gigigagago,

Ths again!

You must be a very smart n highly motivated young man. You hv the sexual experience of successful Alpha men twice ur age n you hv a lot more wisdom than most of them!!

Cheers!

Welcome to this modern sophisticated world; materialistic, fenced-up minds, egoistical, insecure minded and everything else that follow.................

Hi bro LDH,

Always good to hear from u. My regards to Mr. Chairman.

Reputation like any business needs time and credibility to be build up....I started with minus 10 points too.......

Bro gigigagago has bounced back quickly...3 yrs ago I was zapped down to 3 pts. Took me a long time to climb back up.

Gigigagago

Let those ball less dudes shunk in one corner drowning themselves in self pity. Your contribution is nothing less than excellent especially coming from a late 20 dude. Your level of maturity and advanced knowledge of the rules of the game certainly surpassed your peers...................................

There r people who take great delight in zapping others. I know why: It gives them more pleasure than making love to a pretty SYT, hahaha.

Haha, Bro LDH, while the comment from that ageist came as a pleasant surprise, yours was totally unexpected! And most definitely flattering. Didn't foresee the Prince of HFJ to actually come offer a vote of confidence and encouragement.

Thanks man, I'm never gonna stop having fun. You go get some too! :cool:[QUOTE]

Life is fun n tasting pretty pussies is an integral part of the fun.

[QUOTE=gigigagago;5333792]Bro Hooters666......................... 4 out of the 6 flight attendants I personally know and are close with have regular "friends with benefits" or "fuck buddies", whichever is more intimate to you. They love flying and being free......................

You hv a very active social life n r frens w/ many, many gals! I did know a flight attendant, a German gal, in Gotham City decades ago. It was FOC but she was quite ordinary...

Hi bro Gigigagago! Me seldom in HFJs nowadays, retired liaoz because I found a partner and companion..................................

Retired at such young age? You're a hang flower legend bro.

.....................................
For KTV gals, what they were before they wanted to be a KTV gal? Why they come along all the way from China etc etc? Work along the lines of my questions and you get your answer on BY.

Excellent questions.

..................

But I'm really keen into the hybrid version of BY now... Like $1.5k-$3k/mth for the chick, while she still can work, can fuck around, but when I call she must appear. Once I get into the property market and get a good rented place then will consider exclusive pussy. Now let me just get my feet wet first. :D

To me hybrid or part-time BY-ing still means exclusivity of a gal's pussy. She can work but can't fxk around. Otherwise, just pay her for ST.

I hv made such arrangement before when I find a gal who is very attractive to me when I already hv a full-time mistress. If she pleases me a lot, I may make her full-time.

The ideal candidate is a gal who doesn't do ST. I'll offer 3-4K a month to fxk her 4X a month. No overnite. But her pussy MUST be exclusive to me.

[QUOTE=MoralEpitome;5333217]Yes...seems like many bros retired or busy with their projects....I also want to quit or spend less money on such things.....until hopefully I reach my personal target on other things....alot of meaningful things to do in life other than just fucking pussies....although I know I won't completely stop but I don't want to lay or get laid into the KC trap at the moment...it's too distracting.../[QUOTE]

Yes, we should never spend too much time or money on pussies...we all hv bigger fish to fry.

Hv a great day to all esteemed bros,

Bro WB

warbird

25-10-2010, 03:19 AM

I hv something interesting to share w/ bros here.

In the last few yrs, many young PRC gals hv arrived in Gotham country to study at high schools n colleges n many more hv come to work n/or play.

I just received an e-mail from an Asian guru giving advice to Ang Mo men on how to pick up n seduce PRC gals who r in America. I guess he thinks I'm a Caucasian too. It behooves us to understand what our competitors, the Ang Mo men, r learning abt PRC gals...

He also mentioned the "5Cs" of what a China gal wants. Is he S'porean?

Here is what this Asian guru has to say:

Hi Bro Warbird,

Beautiful Chinese women shouldn't be too hard to find if you
if live in a large American city. A lot of affluent Chinese
families have been sending their daughters to study in the
USA and perfect their English, since they recognize English
as the global language of doing business--and the Chinese
are all about business.

These women usually graduate from college and find jobs
with Western companies. If you work in a Western corporation,
the type of Asian women you are most likely to work with are
Chinese women. Often, they are sexy, intelligent, and speak
very good English.

In other words, they are a formidable challenge.

These are not your average "third world girls" who are easily
dazzled. The fact that you are a foreigner doesn't carry much
weight with them. These women know they have options, and so
they tend to be choosy about the men they date.

They also come from a culture where money, status and power are
the most important qualities in a man--and the hottest women
are accustomed to dating super-wealthy men (sometimes much
older than they are), who set them up with whatever they want.

A few aspects of Chinese women you need to know about:

First, I'm speaking in general terms here. The cute, shy girl
who works at your local Chinese restaurant is not going to
have the same values and expectations as the super-hot,
confident Chinese chick that comes from a ritzy area of Hong
Kong and has dated millionaires.

The advice found throughout this program applies very well
to "regular" Chinese women. But as China has evolved into a
major global superpower, it also has created a large class
of hot young women who are used to being around a lot of
money--and Chinese men who spend huge amounts to "own" them.

You will find these beautiful, high-end Chinese girls in the
nightclubs and shopping districts of New York, Los Angeles or
Las Vegas--sporting Louis Vuitton purses and expensive designer
outfits. They're usually either enrolled in an American
university, or there on holiday with their friends.

I know that a confident guy with the right skills can seduce
any woman (and I'm living proof), but hot Chinese girls that
come straight out of big-money Chinese culture will usually
only go with you if they know you have the right financial
status.

It's not the same with many super-hot Western women (models,
strippers, etc) where you can use a "bad boy" edge to get
them to feel sexual attraction. Chinese women, being more
practical and less emotional than American women, aren't so
much interested in dating a "hot" guy who doesn't have his
act together.

They are much more likely to date men who aren't impressive
in the looks department, but have the financial resources to
spoil them with the lifestyle they want.

Another thing to keep in mind: Chinese men look down on women
who have been married before, or have children. It is very
difficult for these women to find a quality man inside their
own race. For this reason, Chinese women won't hesitate to
leave their country and a good-paying job to find love again
somewhere else.

In China, improving one's quality of life through marriage
is a tradition. Nowadays, many single women in the big cities
in China have a good quality of life--but in the more remote
parts of the country, the idea of meeting a Western man, getting
married, and moving to his country to find love is very attractive.

However, they probably speak little (if any) English. This
can make meeting these girls over the Internet a challenge.

Better, if possible, for you to go "to the source" and scout
out these places for yourself.

These are various dialects in China (it's a vast country!)
Mandarin, Cantonese and Hokkien are the major dialects that
you are likely to encounter. But because the wealthy Chinese
families recognize English as the global language for doing
business, they will often speak English at home.

Chinese women have gained a lot of rights and respect as equals
in recent years. Some women don't care about getting married
and will co-habitat with their boyfriends because they prefer
a no-strings-attached relationship; if things don't work out,
they are prepared to move on.

The new generation of young Chinese women are a lot more open
to expressing themselves sexually than they were in the past.

You see this with a lot of sex videos that get "leaked" to the
Internet, involving Chinese celebrities. It's now common for
Chinese girls to let their boyfriends take sexy photos and
videos of them.

Hot Chinese girls will usually expect the "5C" from their lover:
Cash, Car, Condominium, Career, Credit Card.

"Giving your girlfriend a gold credit card is out of style,"
says my friend D.H, a successful Hong Kong businessman. "Now
they want Platinum or AMEX-Black Card. It's a status symbol.
Money is king in China--you'll see a lot of fat, ugly guys
driving a luxury car with a super-hot girl in the passenger
seat."

But this is not to say that you need to be a high roller to
date hot Chinese women. They are vulnerable to guys who are
"sweet talkers" and create a sense of romance.

Tell them you love them, kiss them, take them on romantic
trips...if she hasn't already been spoiled rotten by high
rollers, you've got a shot.

When I talked to my friend D.H. about romancing Chinese
women, he spoke to me in practical terms (as the Chinese
always do): "In China, when we're not with our girlfriends
or wives, we just pay when we want sex. It's not a big deal,
it's what guys do. There are many places in China which have a
poor quality of life, and as long as you can pay, you can get
any kind of sex you want. But if you want a relationship in a
big city like Shanghai or Beijing, you need to have money.
Once a woman has her own 'income power,' she will be very
selective about who she will date."

D.H. told me a story about a friend of his, a hot Chinese woman
who is the mistress to the CEO of a major company. When the
CEO found out she was pregnant with his baby, he said he would
pay her $1 million to deliver a baby girl, and $3 million if it
was a baby boy.

These scenarios aren't unusual in the big Chinese cities: rich
guys use their money to lay out the terms of the relationship.

The beautiful young women are naturally going to hang out in
places where they can interact with high-status, big-money
Chinese men. And if a Chinese guy likes one of these women,
he's not going to fuck around and waste time.

He is going to treat it like a business deal: he will supply
the "5 C's," and she will be available for sex when he wants it.

The bottom line is that a Chinese woman wants to be given
respect and have her man make her feel like she is the most
important person in the world--his "one and only."

Beyond the Chinese girls who are obsessed with material
possessions and status symbols, if you look around, you will
have the opportunity to meet simpler, down-to-earth Chinese
women who will respond positively to a Western guy who shows
her loyalty, commitment and romance.

------------------------------
How To Flirt In Chinese
------------------------------

Hi, you look pretty today: Hai, jing tian ni kan qi lai hen mei.

May I know your name: Wo ke yi zhi dao ni de ming zii ma?

I'm trying to learn Chinese but I only know a little bit: Wo
zheng zai xue hua yu, dan wo zhi dong yi dian dian.

My name is John: Wo jiao John.

Can you tell me how to find ______: Qing wen _______ zen yang qu?

You have beautiful eyes: Ni you shuang mei li de yan jing.

Goodbye, I will see you soon: Bai bai,wo hen kuai zai jian dao ni.

You are very beautiful: Ni hen mei li.

You are very cute: Ni hen ke ai.

I miss you: Wo xiang ni.

Do you have a boyfriend: Ni you nan peng you ma?

Can you be my girlfriend: Ni ke yi dang wo de nu peng you ma.

I want to kiss you: Wo xiang qin ni.

You are my sweetheart: Ni shi wo de tian xin.

You are my darling: Ni shi wo de ai ren.

I love you: Wo ai ni.

And if you're ready for an IN-DEPTH education on everything
from overcoming fear, approaching Chinese, Thai, Japanese,
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It's JAM PACKED with over HUNDREDS of concepts, strategies,
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You'll not only hear me teaching my personal techniques and
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I'll talk to you again soon.

Your Friend,

SSS

gigigagago

25-10-2010, 04:46 AM

Hi bro gigigagago,

Ths again!

You must be a very smart n highly motivated young man. You hv the sexual experience of successful Alpha men twice ur age n you hv a lot more wisdom than most of them!!

Cheers!

Warbird 大哥, 您过奖了。我没你们行。我只不过是只小小鸟，想要飞, 却怎么样也飞不高 (不过我知道就在眼前了）。在那之前，我只要我的鸟可以站得挺，站得直又高，偶尔有个地方可以“磨练”，可以得到“温暖”跟“滋润”，我就okay了。:D

With regards to the Alpha trait, I personally feel that timely intermission with Beta qualities do give one an edge, if one's looking to secure a longer deal than just BGR (Bang & Go Relationship). Not sure if the Ultra-Alpha males would be too pleased to hear though. Haha, but that's just my take. :)

You hv a very active social life n r frens w/ many, many gals! I did know a flight attendant, a German gal, in Gotham City decades ago. It was FOC but she was quite ordinary...

German!!! An ordinary German is probably equivalent to a souped-up (insert a top local beauty here, whoever you deem so), or 10x average local chicks. I would exchange 10x sex with local flight attendants with a German one. Who wouldn't want to hear fick mich hart (fuck me hard) at least once in this life-time? Hahaha. When I do snag one I'll post an FR here. I should probably go read up on engineering stuff every now and then, or learn how to pronounce Deutschland properly.

To me hybrid or part-time BY-ing still means exclusivity of a gal's pussy. She can work but can't fxk around. Otherwise, just pay her for ST.

I hv made such arrangement before when I find a gal who is very attractive to me when I already hv a full-time mistress. If she pleases me a lot, I may make her full-time.

The ideal candidate is a gal who doesn't do ST. I'll offer 3-4K a month to fxk her 4X a month. No overnite. But her pussy MUST be exclusive to me.

Thank you for your insight, 高人Warbird. I understand what you mean. To me, I'm exchanging possession for her potential earnings, that's all. As long as she appears whenever I want her to, 我没必要当她财路 (translation: 知道自己能力有限啦, 哈哈)。 But anything to get started, right?

Say, if she gets $3k/mth from me, and I let her do her thing, but I get to bed her overnight say 10 days/mth... Doesn't sound too bad right? There's a good chance she might be smitten with me, and I get to have my cake and savour it. What's your take, 高人Warbird? I'm really cool with her not being exclusive to me cos I'm not exactly looking for a gf either hahaha. When I get a rented place, then I'll look to up my game. ;)

gigigagago

25-10-2010, 05:10 AM

Dragonkeep

25-10-2010, 01:28 PM

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[COLOR="Blue"]Oh, and guess what, I got a disapproval on one of my previous posts over here (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=5328912&postcount=1561). This attention comes as a slight pleasant surprise.

"OLD Cockhead gigigagao! Younger Crowd fuckup izit?!"

"...the young spends too much time on theory, acting the know-it-all, but when it comes to the crunch time, many falter and become fluff because of the lack of practice (and strangely from self-deluded confidence), while the matured gentlemen are definitely more proactive and doing instead of thinking".

Before I address it proper, let me reiterate that I'm in my late-20s (the reactive young punk probably missed this), and my disdain of the young being too much of an information junkie, is meant to serve as a reminder to my demographics that being afraid to try is not sexy at all.
Also, by emphasizing on the word "OLD", and the subsequent name-calling in your comment, give us a clear indication of how skewed your perception of the many gentlemen in this thread who have taken time and effort to offer suggestions and ideas to help people get a heads-up. If your insecurity is in the way, avoid calling names to expose that. Bitter medicine works. No one should nanny you by now.

Just needed to address this individual's agesim. Disapprovals are welcomed though. Thank you!

Thanks for standing up for the 老 uncles bro. Some threads ago, I did make allowance for the few studs amongst us who were born rich or blessed or both whom we have all grown up with. Even those, I'm sure, have their share of failure stories. Anyhow, hopefully the somewhat unhappy younger bro will cool off and just see that this is a benign thread meant to care and share for the benefit of the younger or less experienced ones.

Anyhow, the point was that many of us are made, not born. Most of us carry the scars of life and those that learn best from mistakes or lucky enough to have (and actually take to heart) lessons in life before, do what they do better. If our young friend was indeed born gorgeous and loaded, well congrats to him. Must have been a saint in his last life.

A major point that seems to be developed by this thread is that we need to practise a bit of Sun Tze: knowing what MMs want and what we can do (the old hat about knowing thine enemy and thineself, a hundred battles and a hundred victories). But, that's where the head knowledge ends in usefulness. As with all classroom know-how, things are easier said than done.

All of us have grown up alongside girls dreaming of their Mr Right. Apart from those born in an economic utopia, one of the most important things in life is still the almighty dollar. Heck, even in the uni, there were girls attached to the studs around who openly declared these were their FBs for the time being. True enough, the jute babes in question ended up bedding and collaring much older but richer blokes from the workplace soon after graduation. Not one regret as far as I can tell, from their leisurely lives in a D9/10/11 landed prop and chaufferred cars. Looks alone (by a hunk) cannot buy the 5Cs + landed. Add to the pressure of each PRC or other foreign talent MM having a clan and more to feed back home, a competitive field of hundreds of thousands equally good looking women and running against the clock, wondering when the wrinkles, bat wings and belly fat would appear etc etc, hell it's little wonder the Jews are reputed to have a prayer for batangs to thank Yaweh for not making them a female(!)

Whilst the field is stacked against the fairer sex, that's where the imperfect market comes into play. A fool is said to born every second. Did all of us guys realise we had so many natural advantages going for us? I think not. Do all MMs give up? Surely not. The smartest can probably twine any of us round our dicks at some point or another. I get particularly generous with those chemistry laced sexy types. Fortune also deals an uneven hand around. Some less fortunate bros actually end up in economically dire straits and only dream about the things other bros can do. Others have the $$$ but dare not do the ballsy things these threads speak of, for a variety of reasons, some honourable and romantic (believers in endless love), some pragmatic (eg scared of friggin suspicious OC). Others just never knew.

I ain't a mega rich tycoon with unlimited resources. Different league. But, the fundamentals are the same: we need to know (as early as possible) what drives the babes out there, and what we can deliver out of our own resource$. It ain't cheap either. We can do a $30 H81 shag job, or a more classy $300-500 hotel getaway with no time limit, for an all night bangathon. If we wanna have a live in relationship, the MM has to be housed ($1,+++ for something decent), her bao fee (seems to be in nice big nos. like 6, 8, 10, 12 x 1000) plus the dinners, entertainment etc etc. No shoe string operation, especially if the target plays the MM game well enough - teasing enough and compliant, or pitiful enough etc to snare the right Robert head.

Just as we measure the MMs we wanna bao, the MMs in the imperfect market also mea$ure us up, for sure. It takes great commitment to share one's youth with some old but financially better off uncle. But heck, for us guys, it's the game of assessing where the economics overcome the stigma for the given MM of being the 小老婆 and the loneliness from such an impermanent liaison. - somewhere in that tome of Clavell's 'Noble House', is a strikingly accurate and not irrelevant bunch of passages about the life of MMs in 1950-1960 Hong Kong. I remember one character advising his younger protege, "never mistreat those who give you their youth". That's really the product the MM gives and the better a trader she is, the better a bargain she makes. I amaze myself that my 1st long RS came with a 15-y age diff with me, the next with 18 y and a current side by side one with 22 y. These gals pay with their youth.

Surely none of us came right out of school knowing all the above. Getting our individual Sun Tze assessments right and then executing each op successfully - now that's where the skill really lies. None of us would willingly want to be the very first patient a newly qualified surgeon operates on. That just reality. Whether in business, or romance or snaring a BY, it's mainly all experience, experience, experience. A Patton or Napoleon or Caesar comes around once in while, but like I said, good for the unhappy lil bro if he is one of those, but most of us mere mortals just live and learn.

warbird

27-10-2010, 02:56 AM

Warbird 大哥, 您过奖了。我没你们行。我只不过是只小小鸟，想要飞, 却怎么样也飞不高 .................................................. .....................
With regards to the Alpha trait, I personally feel that timely intermission with Beta qualities do give one an edge, if one's looking to secure a longer deal than just BGR (Bang & Go Relationship). Not sure if the Ultra-Alpha males would be too pleased to hear though. Haha, but that's just my take.

Gigigagago贤弟少礼，你是后起之秀，真是长江后浪推前浪, 一代新人换旧人！

I agree w/ ur Alpha-Beta strategy!

We should be very tough n dominant n hv formidable self control, especially when dealing w/ our competitors n adversaries, but we should be romantic, caring n loving towards our 女人 as long as they r submissive n r doing their best to please us. Use push-pull, connect-disconnect strategy bcos they crave emotional experiences, at least initially...

Strong Emotions = Strong Attraction

No Emotions = No Attraction

"Nice guys" never seem to grasp this simple concept.

Cheers!

愚兄 warbird

German!!! An ordinary German is probably equivalent to a souped-up (insert a top local beauty here, whoever you deem so), or 10x average local chicks......When I do snag one I'll post an FR here. I should probably go read up on engineering stuff every now and then, or learn how to pronounce Deutschland properly.

Not really. Most German gals, even young ones, would be too big n heavy for me. I especially dislike gals w/ big bony frame n thick arms/legs. At least she was quite slim for a German, haha...5 feet 6 inches (168) n abt 116 lbs, aged 24.

She spoke good English, was based in NYC n worked for TWA (now part of American Airlines). She stayed w/ a Jap gal (my S'pore fren's gal), another TWA stewardess, n my fren n I used to visit them. I either fxked her in her apt when her GF was out or in the backseat of my car. A sort of revenge? Two S'pore guys taking on the Axis power, hehehe. I did her raw...that was a long time ago, before there was a nasty disease called HIV.

Go out n bed a pretty German SYT n post ur FR here, hahaha.

Thank you for your insight...To me, I'm exchanging possession for her potential earnings, that's all. As long as she appears whenever I want her to, 我没必要当她财路 (translation: 知道自己能力有限啦, 哈哈)。 But anything to get started, right?

Say, if she gets $3k/mth from me, and I let her do her thing, but I get to bed her overnight say 10 days/mth... Doesn't sound too bad right? There's a good chance she might be smitten with me, and I get to have my cake and savour it. What's your take, 高人Warbird? I'm really cool with her not being exclusive to me cos I'm not exactly looking for a gf either hahaha. When I get a rented place, then I'll look to up my game. ;)

Great strategic move. Fxk her 10X a month for only 1.5-3K. That is a good deal!

I may adopt a modification of ur brilliant strategy. It's so cost effective! I should be satisfied if a pussy (2 at the most) of my type is exclusive to me n I can still eat outside for a lot less money! Variety is the spice of life!

[QUOTE=gigigagago;5337014]Thanks for your generous sharing! I get this feeling that your Asian Guru either has a crystal ball or is telepathic. It's like he's speaking to you! First, he specifically talked about PRC (which is your favourite past-time - I'm assuming of course), then he strikes a local chord with the "5Cs" and later urged you to "go to the source"! Hahaha. Are you sure he didn't bug you, or did you just find your soulmate, 大哥? Hahaha, unbelievable. :D

I know, some bros may think that I wrote the stuff myself. Of course I didn't. I could send his link to u.

Yes, I like to go to the source n BY pretty SYTs who r current uni students. Rich PRC men really pamper their mistresses or 二奶 aka 小蜜 n give them the 5Cs!! How to compete?!!:(

Thanks for standing up for the 老 uncles bro............................................... ..............

A major point that seems to be developed by this thread is that we need to practise a bit of Sun Tze: knowing what MMs want and what we can do (the old hat about knowing thine enemy and thineself, a hundred battles and a hundred victories). But, that's where the head knowledge ends in usefulness. As with all classroom know-how, things are easier said than done.

.................................one of the most important things in life is still the almighty dollar. Heck, even in the uni, there were girls attached to the studs around who openly declared these were their FBs for the time being. True enough, the jute babes in question ended up bedding and collaring much older but richer blokes from the workplace soon after graduation. Not one regret as far as I can tell, from their leisurely lives in a D9/10/11 landed prop and chaufferred cars. Looks alone (by a hunk) cannot buy the 5Cs + landed. Add to the pressure of each PRC or other foreign talent MM having a clan and more to feed back home, a competitive field of hundreds of thousands equally good looking women and running against the clock...........................

Whilst the field is stacked against the fairer sex, that's where the imperfect market comes into play. A fool is said to born every second. Did all of us guys realise we had so many natural advantages going for us? I think not. Do all MMs give up? Surely not. The smartest can probably twine any of us round our dicks at some point or another................Fortune also deals an uneven hand around. Some less fortunate bros actually end up in economically dire straits and only dream about the things other bros can do. Others have the $$$ but dare not do the ballsy things these threads speak of, for a variety of reasons, some honourable and romantic (believers in endless love), some pragmatic (eg scared of friggin suspicious OC). Others just never knew.

.......................we need to know (as early as possible) what drives the babes out there, and what we can deliver out of our own resource$. It ain't cheap either. We can do a $30 H81 shag job, or a more classy $300-500 hotel getaway with no time limit, for an all night bangathon. If we wanna have a live in relationship, the MM has to be housed ($1,+++ for something decent), her bao fee (seems to be in nice big nos. like 6, 8, 10, 12 x 1000) plus the dinners, entertainment etc etc. No shoe string operation, especially if the target plays the MM game well enough - teasing enough and compliant, or pitiful enough etc to snare the right Robert head.

Just as we measure the MMs we wanna bao, the MMs in the imperfect market also mea$ure us up, for sure. It takes great commitment to share one's youth with some old but financially better off uncle..................I amaze myself that my 1st long RS came with a 15-y age diff with me, the next with 18 y and a current side by side one with 22 y. These gals pay with their youth.

Surely none of us came right out of school knowing all the above. Getting our individual Sun Tze assessments right and then executing each op successfully - now that's where the skill really lies............................

Excellent n most insightful comments!

This BY game is an imperfect n inefficient market. Knowledge (including but not limited to hving the right ctc, especially in China) is power. It could even neutralize the unfair advantage of a rival's deep deep pockets.

We all want maximum return (prettiest pussies combined w/ best services, GFE n 100% loyalty...) w/ minimal investment (damage). On the other hand, these PRC gals want maximum return (money, gifts, etc) in the briefest time frame.

BTW, you're no old uncle compared w/ me. Age differential of only 15-22 yrs? I'm truly a senior citizen aka lao chi ko pek compared w/ u, hehe. All my mistresses r quite young n their dads range in age fro 40 to 50. And I must admit that I'm quite a bit older than the oldest dad.:D

My 2 cents:

Firstly, having self mastery or the ability to control our emotions n ego is crucial. If we fall for a gal, the game is over.

Secondly, we must leave no stone unturned in our search for the most attractive gals of our type. Expanding our ctc beyond KTVs/HFJs is a must. Unfortunately, we get mostly leftovers here. Therefore, if at all possible, go to the source directly.

Thirdly, we should NOT limit ourselves to PRC pussies.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Dragonkeep

27-10-2010, 02:33 PM

Gigigagago贤弟少礼，你是后起之秀，真是长江后浪推前浪, 一代新人换旧人！

Not really. Most German gals, even young ones, would be too big n heavy for me. I especially dislike gals w/ big bony frame n thick arms/legs. At least she was quite slim for a German, haha...5 feet 6 inches (168) n abt 116 lbs, aged 24.

Great strategic move. Fxk her 10X a month for only 1.5-3K. That is a good deal!

[QUOTE=gigigagago;5337003]

Yes, I like to go to the source n BY pretty SYTs who r current uni students. Rich PRC men really pamper their mistresses or 二奶 aka 小蜜 n give them the 5Cs!! How to compete?!!:(

BTW, you're no old uncle compared w/ me. Age differential of only 15-22 yrs? I'm truly a senior citizen aka lao chi ko pek compared w/ u, hehe. All my mistresses r quite young n their dads range in age fro 40 to 50. And I must admit that I'm quite a bit older than the oldest dad.:D

My 2 cents:

Firstly, having self mastery or the ability to control our emotions n ego is crucial. If we fall for a gal, the game is over.

Secondly, we must leave no stone unturned in our search for the most attractive gals of our type. Expanding our ctc beyond KTVs/HFJs is a must. Unfortunately, we get mostly leftovers here. Therefore, if at all possible, go to the source directly.

Thirdly, we should NOT limit ourselves to PRC pussies.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Solid luck dah with the Fraulein! Wonder if there is a Asian preference here - I also absolutely dislike large chunky women. That's why I have always turned down expeditions by cheong buddies to go hunt Russkies and other Europeans who IMHO age too fast and are really not fun to manhandle in bed. Especially like to contort and do some minor acrobatics (spinal health and safety allowing) in de bed! That seems to work best with slim lithe PRC pussies (who tend to be very wet too, fm encounters I had). Not having banged a Caucasian since a slim Latino babe in Puerto Rico eons ago, I kinda notice even from net videos and pix that Ang Moh women dun seem to have sexy leaky slits compared to the Asian ones (seen many Jap vidz where they absolutely gush ...)

Re: competing with the tycoons, I'm also made painfully conscious of the economics. I guess we all gotta f--k within our means.

Re: age - you seem to have used your years well sir! Charming the knickers off such young babes

Noted the 3 lessons - better tack that to my ECA notice board. My bloody weakness is that I tend to sayang the MMs I get into RS with too much. Better be more of a Waffen SS stosstruppen!

siaokia41

28-10-2010, 02:21 AM

got pick up 2 different gals before outside tiong bahru the ktv area..
havelock road there.
anyone else picked up gals there ? what time best ah

gigigagago

31-10-2010, 12:53 AM

got pick up 2 different gals before outside tiong bahru the ktv area..
havelock road there.
anyone else picked up gals there ? what time best ah

Hi bro siaokia41, if my memory serves me correctly, in the first few pages of this thread there had been a discussion of some "pick-up locations" of sorts... Do try sieving through the thread. Hope you get lucky. Thank you.

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Btw, Big Brothers Warbird and Dragonkeep, 小弟 here has been busy of late. Would be replying your last comments when I have more time. Hope you guys are having heaps of fun!

warbird

31-10-2010, 03:28 AM

Solid luck dah with the Fraulein! Wonder if there is a Asian preference here - I also absolutely dislike large chunky women.... Not having banged a Caucasian since a slim Latino babe in Puerto Rico eons ago, I kinda notice even from net videos and pix that Ang Moh women dun seem to have sexy leaky slits compared to the Asian ones (seen many Jap vidz where they absolutely gush ...)

Re: competing with the tycoons, I'm also made painfully conscious of the economics. I guess we all gotta f--k within our means.

Re: age - you seem to have used your years well sir! Charming the knickers off such young babes

Noted the 3 lessons - better tack that to my ECA notice board. My bloody weakness is that I tend to sayang the MMs I get into RS with too much. Better be more of a Waffen SS stosstruppen!

Hi bro dragonkeep,

Very few Ang Mo gals belong to my type...I hv met several very tasty targets, but circumstances prevented me from taking action. Only the young n underused ones r wet wet...

There will always be some pussies we can't get, for whatever reason, just walk away, hahaha. Next!

Not really, these young babes r attracted ONLY to money, at least initially. I also try to project an image of a trustworthy n confident gentleman...which may hv made a slight difference. I hv more to say on the subject...

Cheers!

got pick up 2 different gals before outside tiong bahru the ktv area..
havelock road there.
anyone else picked up gals there ? what time best ah

Hi bro siaokia41,

Yes, you hv mentioned my FAVORITE topic n THE BEST place to pick up SYTs outside KTVs.

Go w/ a wing man to TAM complex (junction of Havelock n Outram Rds) n wait outside the lifts on the 1st FL, within 20 feet of the check-in counter for valet parking. Come w/ ur Ferrari or any sports car, hehe. I only hv a conservative sedan, known to be driven by old men, although a chauffeur might hv helped.:( Best time is between 915PM n 10PM Tues thru Fri. Look at all the gals coming n going. See one u like? Corner her n/or follow her into the lift. Get her name n HP no n tell her u would book her at a later date....be very confident n creative, haha. Give her the "I'm sexual n Alpha, I want to fxk u look." That was how I picked up KK, KX n 2 other young students who hv become my mistresses. If an lao chi ko pek w/ a sedate car like me could do it, imagine what a young n handsome guy in a Porsche could achieve!;)

The 2nd best place? The DC complex. Go to the now open food mall n sit down, hv a glass of wine, in the wine bar outside. Go there between 500PM (even earlier if possible) n 630PM. See the gals...but unfortunately, most of the gals r older n shorter here, IMHO.

Cheers!

Hi bro siaokia41, if my memory serves me correctly, in the first few pages of this thread there had been a discussion of some "pick-up locations" of sorts... Do try sieving through the thread. Hope you get lucky. Thank you.

Btw, Big Brothers Warbird and Dragonkeep, 小弟 here has been busy of late. Would be replying your last comments when I have more time. Hope you guys are having heaps of fun!

Hi bro gigigagago,

A 3rd place would be the taxi stand at People's Park (Centre?), near a UOB branch. I hv been there to pick up my gals many times n hv seen some SYTs waiting for taxi to go to work.

Just pick them up!! Best time? Between 900PM n 930PM.

The 4th best, anyone? A school perhaps.

I enjoy picking up SYTs myself. If the same gals r intro by an agent or mummy, much of the thrill n excitement r lost...:cool:

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

31-10-2010, 12:32 PM

Dragonkeep

31-10-2010, 05:23 PM

Hi bro dragonkeep,

There will always be some pussies we can't get, for whatever reason, just walk away, hahaha. Next!

Not really, these young babes r attracted ONLY to money, at least initially. I also try to project an image of a trustworthy n confident gentleman...which may hv made a slight difference. I hv more to say on the subject...

Bro WB

A dilemma I've been having is meeting the banging sextisfaction quotient at least cost. How to get a SYT at the hoped for standard of banging at minimal expense?

The ones I baoed long term were quite sexual "naturals" for me - very good sexual chemistry. Hence my fairly long relationships with them - we spent literally hours and nights locked in our hotel rooms to the frustration of housekeeping staff and their interminable "cleaning time missed" notes. We progressed into the sorts of stuff that Jap AVA movies are made of - although at a fair amount of time, "training" and $$ invested.

Trouble I'm having, is that I have found the new young ones kinda shy and not very adventurous in bed at the onset. As you point out, the prospect of $$$ makes for some improvement, although their fresh good looks make them head turners whenever we go out, with many batangs staring and drooling hard, giving the ego (but less ol dickie in bed) a real boost. Any tips from you as a leading SYT exponent to getting to assessing the "product quality" quick and at lowest cost would be very welcome. That being said, I recall the old adage that with any product or service, you can demand that it be quick, fast or cheap - but receive only 2: e.g. cheap, fast but not good, good and fast but not cheap etc.

warbird

02-11-2010, 03:24 AM

LOL...time to change to a sports car....but like bro WB...it's good to be modest and low profile at times....actually you just need to hang outside any HH joint usually between 845 to 915pm and you can get to pick up some gems...I mentioned before that my fren had picked up drunk girls outside TAM complex at 3am before...different joints got different hours...if TAM side...I think the pretty girls will reach between 9 to 10pm...peace centre side the girls will reach between 5 to 615pm....the number of girls at balestier waiting for a cab between 5 to 6pm is also an idea....I also once saw a very pretty girl working at Peace Centre waiting for a cab at Joo Chiat before...I know a few houses there that have many girls housed inside...because I am a easterner....but near president's house and got police spot checks when I send girls home....so if you don't drink it should be okay...this is why I only drink green tea...

Hi bro ME,

Everything being equal, a sports car would be very helpful in picking up young babes outside KTVs.

Almost all my mistresses want to be seen in one. Here is what I tell them: For decades, I hv driven n preferred to ride in only one make of car, a safe n sedate sedan, in Gotham City n elsewhere. It's the car I'm driving now. Not happy, go find a BF w/ a sports car. Goodbye, hehehe.

A very pretty gal working at PC waiting for a cab in Joo Chiat? I also know such a gal quite well, hehe. Not sure if it's the same gal. My gal is 18-19, very slim, abt 164cm.

Cheers!

Bro WB

A dilemma I've been having is meeting the banging sextisfaction quotient at least cost. How to get a SYT at the hoped for standard of banging at minimal expense?

The ones I baoed long term were quite sexual "naturals" for me - very good sexual chemistry. Hence my fairly long relationships with them - we spent literally hours and nights locked in our hotel rooms to the frustration of housekeeping staff and their interminable "cleaning time missed" notes. We progressed into the sorts of stuff that Jap AVA movies are made of - although at a fair amount of time, "training" and $$ invested.

Trouble I'm having, is that I have found the new young ones kinda shy and not very adventurous in bed at the onset. As you point out, the prospect of $$$ makes for some improvement, although their fresh good looks make them head turners whenever we go out, with many batangs staring and drooling hard, giving the ego (but less ol dickie in bed) a real boost. Any tips from you as a leading SYT exponent to getting to assessing the "product quality" quick and at lowest cost would be very welcome. That being said, I recall the old adage that with any product or service, you can demand that it be quick, fast or cheap - but receive only 2: e.g. cheap, fast but not good, good and fast but not cheap etc.

Hi bro dragonkeep,

High Sextisfaction Quotient or SQ at the least cost? You hv posed a very challenging question.

How to find pretty SYTs w/ ur preferred body n pussy type who give good services, r very orgasmic, yet won't cost an arm n a leg? You will rarely find those attributes in gals who do ST. I hv searched everywhere...GL legal gals, streetwalkers, local FLs, KTV gals/students, etc. ST-gals hv no incentive to giving good services n u hv little leverage over them. There r other problems. I normally neither kiss nor paint gals who do ST...n I'll NEVER do them raw.

My solution is to BY gals of my type who dun do ST. They will then give me everything I want. If a gal says she has never done BBBJ n CMI. I simply tell them all my former GFs/mistresses hv done it. She will not say no again. If she says no to something else...I just repeat the magic phrase. You get the idea. I also enjoy the feelings of staying w/ these gals, it's like hving honeymoon every few months! I even allow myself to get a little KC-ed just to increase the thrill...

The downside? BY-ing is expensive. A cheaper way to do it? Go to live in China n BY SYTs there.

Yes, I'm an unabashed exponent n hunter of SYTs of my type. Why? I'm turned on by the youthful face, body n, most importantly, the pretty n fresh pussy. They r usually tighter n wetter, n may be more responsive if one has the right approach...although it may take a few sessions before I give them violent COS. Going out n holding hands w/ pretty SYTs in public is fun too, as it makes me feel like 21 again. I'm careful to avoid very public places such as Orchard Rd, Bugis n Chinatown though.

Good day!

Bro WB

.................................................. ....................................

Good morning to all samsters!!

I hv more musings on living a happy life n BY-ing.

Back to the question on high SQ at low cost. It all depends on one's expectations. High expectations, low SQ; low expectations, high SQ. Same gal, same fxking experience, but vastly different SQ. :confused:

Like Shakespeare said: “It is neither good nor bad, but thinking makes it so.” Not only one man's meat is...but there is also the mysterious Rashomon Effect, hahaha.

A young PRC laborer in SIN is sextisfied fxking a $30-40 middle-aged whore, whereas an ageing tycoon may be dissatisfied keeping 10 very pretty SYTs under one roof.:eek:

As a devotee of Psycanics n NLP, I'm hving much better self mastery. I'm contented n happy, no matter what. I hv NO expectations n I'll never be disappointed or frustrated. Every day n every pussy is a bonus. Why do I still want to spend money BY-ing gals of my type? Why not? How else should I spend my money?

The key to UNCONDITIONAL contentment n happiness is self mastery. Nothing else matters. A man can be the richest in the world, the smartest, the most powerful, an emperor of China w/ over 3,000 prettiest virgin SYTs, the most handsome, the healthiest, the most talented, etc...all at the SAME time n can still be miserable, hehehe.

With Psycanics, my addiction to tall gals w/ long, slender arms n those w/ a Fujian accent r much weakened. Most of my mistresses r 168 n taller. The shortest is 162 n she has the tightest n most shallow pussy. I now hv an urge to fxk gals shorter than 162, something I hv not done in decades!

I still prefer SYTs, but I must admit that 2 MILFs hv given me great sextisfaction. I BY-ed a 25 yo full-blooded Manchurian gal a yr ago. She had a very proportionate body n gave me my 1st ever COS( see my posts in oct 2009). She will come to SIN to attend her sister's wedding next month n wants me to keep her again?!!

There was a 26-27 yo Hubei gal I picked up at TAM complex 2 1/2 months ago. She had a near perfect, snow white body w/ natural C boobs n deep Venus dimples. One of my best fxk ever! She squirted! A couple days before returning to PRC, while I was fxking her, I whispered that I would take care of her, if she ever comes back. She replied: 是吗？你有很多女孩子要照顾。。。she is still in China. I say she is near perfect n if she was 19 yo she would be perfect. I would love to take care of her indefinitely if she was 19 yo. I hv a very sexplicit video clip of her which I view frequently.:p

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

02-11-2010, 08:56 AM

I'm back!

Time changes everything! We r all changing constantly...

I now want to fxk or BY a no. of gals whom I rejected or dumped n, on the other hand, several gals who rejected or dumped me want me to fxk or BY them now.

I hv kept in touch w/ 80% of my current/former mistresses n other gals, by qq, msn, emails or by HP.

As I mentioned before, I now hv a strong urge to make love to gals who r shorter than 162.:confused:

Unfortunately, my 5 gals (3 former mistresses n 2 new ones) who r coming to S'pore over the next month or 2 r all above 165. Perhaps only 3 of them will actually come, not including the one below.

BTW, I hv over 30 gals on my qq good fren list, mostly my former mistresses n gals I know quite well. But some of them change their nicks quite often.

As I was leaving for lunch today I got the following msg from qq:

10:58:13 (PST in Gotham country)
_℡XX情给您发送了一个窗口抖动。

I didn't know her.

WB 11:00:36 AM
你是谁？
_℡
XX情 11:00:46 AM
X昕

(I didn't recognize the name.)

WB 11:02:00 AM
哦！你在哪里？
_℡
XX情 11:02:07 AM
印尼

WB 11:02:45 AM
我见过你吗？

(She must be really pissed off!)

XX情 11:02:55 AM

_℡XX情 11:03:07 AM
不记得错了
_℡
XX情 11:03:13 AM
不记得算了

WB 11:03:35 AM
你去过新加坡？
_℡
XX情 11:03:43 AM
恩

(I still didn't recall the name.)

WB 11:04:32 AM
你如何有我的QQ？
_℡
XX情 11:04:39 AM
是你给我的
_℡
XX情 11:04:49 AM
我新加坡的电话是
_℡
XX情 11:04:56 AM
8xxxxxxx
_℡
XX情 11:05:06 AM
等你想起我是谁时再聊吧，我下了

WB 11:08:00 AM
你会来新加坡吗？

(I quickly checked her HP no. Shit! She is X Xin, a former mistress! She is a 22 yo Dongbei gal, very tall w/ natural C n big ass whom I BY-ed briefly 4 months ago when she came on visitor pass.)

WB11:09:34 AM
我想起了！我以为是X欣！

WB 11:12:17 AM
我在美国， XX号到新加坡。

(I then left for lunch.)
_℡
XX情 2:40:22 PM
我在办学生证，不知道什么时候会办下来，所以只能等了

WB 4:37:36 PM
X昕，你在印尼等学生证？要我帮助吗？我还要包养你，你不要上班哦。

BY her again? My big head wants to search for gals under 162 n X Xin is over 170 n weighs abt 56kg! But my small head wants her voluptuous body, tight/wet hole n experience her volcanic orgasms again, hehehe.

fun_n_pleasure

02-11-2010, 11:59 PM

Wow, this is for me one of the best thread around. I've so far only managed to read the first few pages (very good stuffs), jumped to the last page and found the content is still just as exceptional.

Special thanks to bro warbird for starting this thread and to many others for sharing your insightful experiences so generously.

I've learned so much from the senior bros here and it really opened my eyes to a different reality (which can be quite depressing). Will certainly spend the next few days reading up the rest of the 100+ pages.

A question I wanted to ask, can one still be Alpha if he's not chasing after the material stuffs of this world?

gigigagago

03-11-2010, 03:01 AM

A question I wanted to ask, can one still be Alpha if he's not chasing after the material stuffs of this world?

Hi bro fun_n_pleasure! We share the same sentiments about this thread. You're most welcomed to stay and contribute! (Hereby shamelessly taking the liberty to "play host", haha, sorry ah Big Brother Warbird!)

A quick contribution before I get buried in my work again... (Things are getting busier and what a good time to be so. Having more spare cash near the end of the year is always a good thing I should guess so. Hee... :))

I have personally encountered pretty mellow Alphas. To be more specific with examples, just to list a few: An assistant sports coach, a manager at a chemicals plant and another a retail sales assistant - none earning more than $4k and are not the most flashy people I've come across. However, all of them have this charisma that pulls people in, hold great conversations and are opinionated. A side I've seen them in action with the ladies of course, guys not counted. And they're not shy and submissive towards the chicks either. Also, if my eyes aren't playing tricks, the chicks enjoy their company too. It's always very fun with them because collectively it's tons of entertainment whenever we're out. Especially exchanging the pointers part lah, haha.

But a larger % of the Alphas I identified are super success-driven personnel, revered, indispensible and important members of their work arena. Along with the moolah they bring in, their accessories are also more atas relatively. They too, are a very confident and self-assured bunch. So, like yourself, I can't put a finger as to whether a natural Alpha tend to have more bling-blings too.

However, one thing I believe is that if you set higher standards, you get higher rewards too. Hence, the debate is on whether being Alpha is a "higher standard" (naturally some may disagree), and does the lifestyle, materialistically, should be lumped together and judged as the same.

I'd be waiting earnestly for the learned, well-traveled, and sophisticated senior bros to give their take. Please privilege us fledglings with your esteemed gems of wisdom. :D

P.S: I'll probably be replying all the previous comments affiliated with me during the weekends. Kinda miss the interaction here! OMG I'M KC-ED BY THIS THREAD I'M FUCKING SCREWED! :eek:

fun_n_pleasure

03-11-2010, 07:12 PM

Hi bro gigigagago, thank you for the very warm welcome ;)

I'll try my best and do wish I have more to contribute as we go along. But at this point in time, I'm an absolute green-horn in this game (although i'm already in my 30s). I need to clarify my thoughts some more before I can have a meaningful discussion with you guys. Hope it'll not be too long...

MoralEpitome

03-11-2010, 09:21 PM

Hi bro fun_n_pleasure! We share the same sentiments about this thread. You're most welcomed to stay and contribute! (Hereby shamelessly taking the liberty to "play host", haha, sorry ah Big Brother Warbird!)

A quick contribution before I get buried in my work again... (Things are getting busier and what a good time to be so. Having more spare cash near the end of the year is always a good thing I should guess so. Hee... :))

I have personally encountered pretty mellow Alphas. To be more specific with examples, just to list a few: An assistant sports coach, a manager at a chemicals plant and another a retail sales assistant - none earning more than $4k and are not the most flashy people I've come across. However, all of them have this charisma that pulls people in, hold great conversations and are opinionated. A side I've seen them in action with the ladies of course, guys not counted. And they're not shy and submissive towards the chicks either. Also, if my eyes aren't playing tricks, the chicks enjoy their company too. It's always very fun with them because collectively it's tons of entertainment whenever we're out. Especially exchanging the pointers part lah, haha.

But a larger % of the Alphas I identified are super success-driven personnel, revered, indispensible and important members of their work arena. Along with the moolah they bring in, their accessories are also more atas relatively. They too, are a very confident and self-assured bunch. So, like yourself, I can't put a finger as to whether a natural Alpha tend to have more bling-blings too.

However, one thing I believe is that if you set higher standards, you get higher rewards too. Hence, the debate is on whether being Alpha is a "higher standard" (naturally some may disagree), and does the lifestyle, materialistically, should be lumped together and judged as the same.

I'd be waiting earnestly for the learned, well-traveled, and sophisticated senior bros to give their take. Please privilege us fledglings with your esteemed gems of wisdom. :D

P.S: I'll probably be replying all the previous comments affiliated with me during the weekends. Kinda miss the interaction here! OMG I'M KC-ED BY THIS THREAD I'M FUCKING SCREWED! :eek:

Yup Bro WB is one legend we can learn from....as to your comments on the mellow alpha males getting the chicks I do believe it is greatly possible so...but probably not the ultimate premium chicks....to the chicks they do not really differentiate between money from a very rich man or a poor man....even if you are a handsome celebrity who tips $50 bucks for a booking session you are unlikely to get the girl....but even if you are an ugly old man(no reference to anyone) willing to fork out $500 for a session....who do you think the WL will prefer? I am too soft hearted but I have learned from the esteem bros here to be firm when dealing with these highly manipulative ladies...hahaaaha

fun_n_pleasure

04-11-2010, 11:52 AM

Hi bro MoralEpitome, I do agree with you that money is just money for WLs and other things like looks and personality meant little to them. I know the thread title is about picking up KTV gals, but what I'll like to do is learn from the bros here and apply the knowledge to pick up non-WL chicks. I guess those were areas where one will need more than just $$ to succeed in the game.

Pardon me, its not that I'm cheapskate and not willing to pay for services... its just that I find paid-sex without the seduction process unappealing to me. In fact, picking up gals outside could probably take up more $$ than paid-sex, but I find it more sextifying :D. Of-cos we should always make things clear from the beginning and let the other party know we're into it for fun without commitments. Don't cheat anyone's feeling ya...

This is my personally preferences, hope I did not offend anyone there.

vellamoose

04-11-2010, 03:23 PM

u dun cheat them they oso cheat you
u truthful they all liar
u be jesus they still satan
so to win, like legend wb, beat them at their own game

MoralEpitome

04-11-2010, 09:12 PM

DO_YOU_BJ

04-11-2010, 10:29 PM

Although most of the references here are made to prc women whom we BY....the topics on self mastery can be used on any women....be it FL or not...people like WB BYBJ LDH Marc5 are all masters at their game...I believe they know how to play to their strengths and overcome their weak points....

Good morning, please get your facts rite bro, all you mentioned are correct except for me.
Me only a newbie noob
Still got lot to learn from the masters:D

MoralEpitome

04-11-2010, 11:02 PM

Good morning, please get your facts rite bro, all you mentioned are correct except for me.
Me only a newbie noob
Still got lot to learn from the masters:D

LOL ok let me correct myself....Bro BYBJ is a noob...and all of us are infants leow...morning in the states....night here in Singapore...

DO_YOU_BJ

04-11-2010, 11:15 PM

LOL ok let me correct myself....Bro BYBJ is a noob...and all of us are infants leow...morning in the states....night here in Singapore...

It's DYBJ fyi:p

fun_n_pleasure

05-11-2010, 12:00 AM

Although most of the references here are made to prc women whom we BY....the topics on self mastery can be used on any women....be it FL or not...people like WB BYBJ LDH Marc5 are all masters at their game...I believe they know how to play to their strengths and overcome their weak points....

bro MoralEpitome, you got it spot on. This is indeed about self mastery... not just about sex but also in all areas of life. Of-cos, sex is a big part of it :D

warbird

05-11-2010, 02:57 AM

Wow, this is for me one of the best thread around.....
Special thanks to bro warbird for starting this thread and to many others for sharing your insightful experiences so generously...................................
A question I wanted to ask, can one still be Alpha if he's not chasing after the material stuffs of this world?

Hi bro fun_n_pleasure! We share the same sentiments about this thread. You're most welcomed to stay and contribute! (Hereby shamelessly taking the liberty to "play host", haha, sorry ah Big Brother Warbird!)......................................

I have personally encountered pretty mellow Alphas. To be more specific with examples, just to list a few...................

But a larger % of the Alphas I identified are super success-driven personnel......................................... ..............................

I'd be waiting earnestly for the learned, well-traveled, and sophisticated senior bros to give their take. Please privilege us fledglings with your esteemed gems of wisdom.

P.S:...............................OMG I'M KC-ED BY THIS THREAD I'M FUCKING SCREWED!

Hi bros fun_n_pleasure n gigigagago,

Thank u all for ur post.

Bro gigigagago has described the main types of alpha very well.

C'mon, please dun be addicted to my mundane thread, try to get addicted a very pretty n cute SYT instead, hehehe. Every addiction is the antithesis of self mastery.

What is an alpha male? In traditional western culture, he is a leader, is confident, dominant, ambitious n goal-oriented n has fame, status, money n the prettiest pussies.

But many alpha males r unhappy n frustrated, even miserable despite their high social status n immense wealth...I personally know a couple of very wealthy/successful men who crave but hv failed to get pretty pussies of their type either bcos of time or circumstantial constraints or lack of know how. Really sad.

Recently, it dawned on me that there must be a better way. Now I hv a different definition of what is a truly dominant n "superior" man. He is a man w/ formidable (absolute?) self mastery/emotional control n all his manifestations n achievements r direct results of this mastery. Most importantly, he is happy n contented, no matter what.

He doesn't need nor depend on women to be happy or to boost his ego. But can he get the prettiest pussies if he wants to? You bet! He has 1) masculinity, 2) confidence, 3) ability to inspire confidence (females feel safe, secure n protected in his presence) n 4) character. The most desirable females will flock to him, regardless of his material wealth, position, looks n age. BTW, most WLs r NOT the most desirable females, even if they r stunningly beautiful n sexy.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Yup Bro WB is one legend we can learn from.......to the chicks they do not really differentiate between money from a very rich man or a poor man....even if you are a handsome celebrity who tips $50 bucks for a booking session you are unlikely to get the girl....but even if you are an ugly old man(no reference to anyone) willing to fork out $500 for a session....who do you think the WL will prefer? I am too soft hearted........

Hi bro ME,

What legend? I'm merely doing my best to learn n to get hands on experience. If my goal is 100 points, my score is only around 5. I hv a very long way to go.

WLs r addicted to money. Most of them should be treated like "bot meat."

Cheers!

Hi bro MoralEpitome, I do agree with you that money is just money for WLs and other things like looks and personality meant little to them. I know the thread title is about picking up KTV gals, but what I'll like to do is learn from the bros here and apply the knowledge to pick up non-WL chicks. I guess those were areas where one will need more than just $$ to succeed in the game.

................ its just that I find paid-sex without the seduction process unappealing to me. In fact, picking up gals outside could probably take up more $$ than paid-sex, but I find it more sextifying........................................ ................

For WLs, money is a prerequisite, but ur strategies, mind game n ur ranking on the male dominance scale may make a big difference, at least in long-term BY-ing.

u dun cheat them they oso cheat you
u truthful they all liar
u be jesus they still satan
so to win, like legend wb, beat them at their own game

Hi bro,

You must be referring to the legendary Chairman Austin! He is my role model, instructor, mentor...

I hv tried but still get beaten by them sometimes...they r quite formidable opponents despite their young age! I still keep in touch w/ most of them. It has been fun n great learning experiences. I must admit that I hv learned a lot abt myself, abt them, abt life n abt sex, etc., from these gals, hehehe.

Although most of the references here are made to prc women whom we BY....the topics on self mastery can be used on any women....be it FL or not...people like WB BYBJ LDH Marc5 are all masters at their game...I believe they know how to play to their strengths and overcome their weak points.... bro MoralEpitome, you got it spot on. This is indeed about self mastery... not just about sex but also in all areas of life. Of-cos, sex is a big part of it :D

You're right bro. If u can truly master yourself, u r invincible. Even non-WLs will flock to u. You will become a great trader or be very successful in any profession or business for that matter.

Good morning, please get your facts rite bro, all you mentioned are correct except for me.
Me only a newbie noob
Still got lot to learn from the masters:D

Hello Chairman Austin,

How is LA?

LOL ok let me correct myself....Bro BYBJ is a noob...and all of us are infants leow...morning in the states....night here in Singapore...

Yes, we r all infants in this BY-ing game.

It's DYBJ fyi:p

Of course, the one n only DYBJ.

Hv a great day to all esteemed bros,

Bro WB

DO_YOU_BJ

05-11-2010, 09:34 AM

Hi bro,

You must be referring to the legendary Chairman Austin! He is my role model, instructor, mentor...
Not mentor, NEWBIE NOOB, NEWBIE NOOB hehehe

Hello Chairman Austin,

How is LA?

Dying of boredom here, SAVE ME.....SAVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!

MoralEpitome

05-11-2010, 12:22 PM

LOL LA and NY is not that far rite?....maybe a rendevous?

DO_YOU_BJ

05-11-2010, 12:24 PM

LOL LA and NY is not that far rite?....maybe a rendevous?

Uncle, your geography fail dah deh........
One is West Coast the other is East Coast, seow ah you lol

Loving_Dickhead

05-11-2010, 07:17 PM

Uncle, your geography fail dah deh........
One is West Coast the other is East Coast, seow ah you lol

Nabei... I am in Las Vegas now! :D

.

Dragonkeep

05-11-2010, 09:17 PM

Hi bro ME,

How to find pretty SYTs w/ ur preferred body n pussy type who give good services, r very orgasmic, yet won't cost an arm n a leg? You will rarely find those attributes in gals who do ST. I hv searched everywhere...GL legal gals, streetwalkers, local FLs, KTV gals/students, etc. ST-gals hv no incentive to giving good services n u hv little leverage over them.

My solution is to BY gals of my type who dun do ST. They will then give me everything I want. If a gal says she has never done BBBJ n CMI. I simply tell them all my former GFs/mistresses hv done it. She will not say no again. If she says no to something else...I just repeat the magic phrase. You get the idea. I also enjoy the feelings of staying w/ these gals, it's like hving honeymoon every few months! I even allow myself to get a little KC-ed just to increase the thrill...

The downside? BY-ing is expensive. A cheaper way to do it? Go to live in China n BY SYTs there.

Back to the question on high SQ at low cost. It all depends on one's expectations. High expectations, low SQ; low expectations, high SQ. Same gal, same fxking experience, but vastly different SQ. :confused:

Bro WB

Thanks for the words of wisdom. I guess I'd better buck up on the patience department and lower the expectation dept - apart from my 1st long RS where we sexually clicked soooo naturally and a couple of STs from LV on hand (not bao bound as yet), I am getting the impression that we need to break them in for SQ attainment to the desired level.

Sounds like the commercial adage of having only 2 out of quick, cheap and good still applies to this market.

Cheers

MoralEpitome

05-11-2010, 09:45 PM

Nabei... I am in Las Vegas now! :D

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LOL....your singer is from LV? dunno why so fated with bro LDH...always see him around with different women one...haha

MoralEpitome

05-11-2010, 09:52 PM

Thanks for the words of wisdom. I guess I'd better buck up on the patience department and lower the expectation dept - apart from my 1st long RS where we sexually clicked soooo naturally and a couple of STs from LV on hand (not bao bound as yet), I am getting the impression that we need to break them in for SQ attainment to the desired level.

Sounds like the commercial adage of having only 2 out of quick, cheap and good still applies to this market.

Cheers

I am sure you are doing great!...just do what you like...if you like ST just do ST lor...just that humans get greedy.... when i started out....I enjoyed BS because can suck cock and fuck in the room....now I find it damn digusting and dirty.....then graduated to mid range joints like DM, CJ and ST for $150...all I wanted is to fuck the girls as cheaply as possible....then after that go for girls who will only ST for $300 to $1000....then do abit of BY shit.....then try the flower hanging scene abit.....see can KC singer or not...then now stop hanging flowers....and just go for ST...it's just a vicious cycle!....but after the whole shit I think ST is still the best....no need to screw around with feelings....but this is for me la...other bros who have more freedom can play on a higher level...

Hooters666

06-11-2010, 12:38 AM

Hi Bros

Many thanks for the many contributions here. I am reading this thread regularly although I am still somewhere in the vincinity of page 40 odd. But as I said in my first post on this thread how I wished I discover this thread much much earlier. Anyway the good thing is that I completed reading Justime-Mistress Thread. Enjoyed it thoroughly and learned a lot.

Anyway the purpose of my post is to share a recent adventure I had. And although it is not the big time one like snaring the hottest ang pai singer n havelock or selegie but i think it still worth narrating here.

So here it goes. I am kind of bored with STs and hunting FLs as I found GFE and connectivity are very lacking in such engagements. I don't even RTF for all of them except some massage joints and it is perhaps I have not come across a drop dead chick. So comes this FL into the picture. I got her contact from FL Dome here but tried in vain to obtain an appointment on 2 attempts. I pass her and struck her off my database. Then one day I got SMS from her asking me whether I am free. So since she made that initiative I return favour and engaged her service. Booked room and waited for her arrival. Let call her CJ and CJ appears to be mid 20s. Not too tall at 1.65m thereabouts, got some curves, big butt and a nice set of natural C+ titties. We had some fun for the first time together and I discovered that she pretty wet for a FL. I finger fuck and she came and was convalusing for a min. Hmmm pretty interesting and refreshing. She exudes plenty GFE too and was very warm to me pre and post shag. So I thought to myself this might be RTF potential and maybe I should use this opportunity to apply some bao moves.

After that session I just send an SMS to her to exchange pleasanties on the next day. Then 1 week later I called her up to ask to meet up. Pick her up at her place and brought her out for dinner. I also dont know why I went for dinner as my original intent was to shag her. Went for simple meal and ended in a park. We chatted more and she starts to reveal more about her to me. Realised she has been in SG since 2008 and came here on a student pass. Objective was to seek her SG boyfriend that she met in Shenzhen and not to make money. Somehow or rather that did not work out and she was depressed. Somehow a knight in shining armor came along and she has since followed him. At that stage I was damn surprised on why she need to work and why she agrees to see me in the context that she is already being baoed.
But the scenario got me all curious and the desire to play along.

So while in the car she started to be at ease in my presence and I took the opportunity to french her. No resistance now versus the resistance I gotten when i first engaged her as FL. Anyway I did not get any BBBJ as well on the first engagement. The frenching was natural and I feel some passion coming from her. Of course my dick was hard as I started to caress her tits. Anyway there were further in the car as I wasn't the type to do it in the car nor I was prepared logistically. I sent her home and we communicated via sms and calls thereafter.

The third meeting was a short one as I badly need to shag her. I picked her up again but she seems to be reluctant to kai fang with me and want to have a meal. But in the end she said ok. The shag was good and more passionate but still I am getting a covered BJ and no showering together. I paid her for that shag as I still treat it is a commercial arrangement.

Our next meeting was when I brought her for to some teppanyaki place and adjoin to seaside for some romancing. I can feel that she is smitten by me and seems to just be with me and go along with my plans. We chatted, exchanged kisses, frenched and cumulated to some hot foreplay by the breakwater. No shagging for that night too as I need to report back to OC as it is getting late. However the next few days her sms is getting more lovey dovey. You know the usual "I am thinking about etc"

I arranged another "date" few days later and I brought her to the Flyer. That night while we chatted I asked her is there anything I can do to help her. She asked what I meant and I said I would like to see her regularly (for fuck off course) and would like to help in her expenses. Her reply was don't need as someone is taking care of her already and all she needs is my companionship (WTF I was thinking). I replied I feel bad about this arrangement as I would not be contributing anything (of course fuckin lie) I said I can pay her rent and hp bills. So we left it at that and proceeded to H81. However that night the fuck session was fuckin intense and I managed to get the elusive bbbj from her. But the interesting part was when she came and started sobbing. I was taken aback by this display of emotion but attributed it to the intensity of the orgasm.

After that night she started to sms me and asking to see me more. I could not do it due to my work and family commitments. She even cancelled her dates with her bao BF to see me. So in the last 5 days I managed to squeezed two outings with her and the last drawn one (after a heavy dose of intense fucking) was the fact she begged me to accompany longer and refused to get out of my car. She is definitely getting sticky and emotional. I cannot apprehend the situation because I have only knew her for 3 weeks. But she scaring the shit out of me. I did not pick up her call or reply her sms for 2 day already. She has since stopped any attempt to contact me from today so I will just let it cool or die off.

Overall this is quite an experience but her stickiness and emotional state puts me off although the sex is great. I guess I have no choice but to move on or else my dick might be chewed off as keepsake. But to be honest her looks and figure is no where near 10/10 or else I will not be bother by the stickiness and submissiveness.

Sorry for the prolong extended narration. I will hunt and practice further but eventually my final battle ground will be in KTVs!

Cheers

Dragonkeep

06-11-2010, 12:47 AM

I am sure you are doing great!...just do what you like...if you like ST just do ST lor...just that humans get greedy.... when i started out....I enjoyed BS because can suck cock and fuck in the room....now I find it damn digusting and dirty.....then graduated to mid range joints like DM, CJ and ST for $150...all I wanted is to fuck the girls as cheaply as possible....then after that go for girls who will only ST for $300 to $1000....then do abit of BY shit.....then try the flower hanging scene abit.....see can KC singer or not...then now stop hanging flowers....and just go for ST...it's just a vicious cycle!....but after the whole shit I think ST is still the best....no need to screw around with feelings....but this is for me la...other bros who have more freedom can play on a higher level...

Thanks bro ME. Actually, like you I had my share of gila time pre-2006 when KTVs were that crazy at places like Kabuki/ XTD etc where all kinds of action happened in the rooms! Later, got into RS long term type fxxking because of the raw action after getting doctor to check the gal out ... damn shiok and addictive. The next RS I had (2 y now) was from a HFJ - wha lou, chase until almost broke dah! But then again, damn shiok to get her to orgasm 7-8 times a day, no CD restrictions etc. Trouble is the gals are stuck back in the ol mainland, so need other outlets in between trips. Your point about not having to screw around with feelings makes a compelling point for ST type action. Trouble is, I'm a bit of a creature of habit and sometimes lazy. So, after a repeat fxxk with the STimer who happens to click very well, she starts to get ideas and I have to back peddle to avoid KC-traps unless I plan to bao for a while. That's where being a tycoon helps - and I am not one.

Sigh. I guess on balance, it is still better to follow your advice for local action - not to screw around "with feelings". Just enjoy the groping at KTVs, if we click - great, fire away and forget. As they say, you want milk - go buy a carton but not the cow!

Happy bonking!

warbird

06-11-2010, 02:28 AM

Not mentor, NEWBIE NOOB, NEWBIE NOOB hehehe
Dying of boredom here, SAVE ME.....SAVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!

Impossible, hahaha...as Chairman you're most resourceful n hv all the lobangs!

LOL LA and NY is not that far rite?....maybe a rendevous?

Not that far?

Uncle, your geography fail dah deh........
One is West Coast the other is East Coast, seow ah you lol

Hahaha...

Nabei... I am in Las Vegas now!

As in Las Vegas, Nevada or LV 5th Fl?

I at Sultan Plaza

Are u our Chairman's sidekick?;)

...I guess I'd better buck up on the patience department and lower the expectation dept - apart from my 1st long RS where we sexually clicked soooo naturally and a couple of STs from LV on hand (not bao bound as yet), I am getting the impression that we need to break them in for SQ attainment to the desired level.

Sounds like the commercial adage of having only 2 out of quick, cheap and good still applies to this market.

Zero expectations, sky high SQ, hehehe.

Yeah, I need a break-in period during which I cajole n then coach my mistresses, especially the very young ones, to perform certain acts...;)

I am sure you are doing great!...just do what you like...if you like ST just do ST lor...just that humans get greedy.......all I wanted is to fuck the girls as cheaply as possible....then after that go for girls who will only ST for $300 to $1000....then do abit of BY shit.....then try the flower hanging scene abit.....see can KC singer or not...then now stop hanging flowers....and just go for ST...it's just a vicious cycle!....but after the whole shit I think ST is still the best.......................

Yeah, ST w/ the right gal can be very sextisfying. I hv done ST even when having 2 full-time BAO-ees.

Hi Bros

Many thanks for the many contributions here......... Anyway the good thing is that I completed reading Justime-Mistress Thread. Enjoyed it thoroughly and learned a lot.

Anyway the purpose of my post is to share a recent adventure I had.........

So here it goes. I am kind of bored with STs and hunting FLs as I found GFE and connectivity are very lacking in such engagements. I don't even RTF for all of them except some massage joints and it is perhaps I have not come across a drop dead chick. So comes this FL into the picture........................................... ...................................
Overall this is quite an experience but her stickiness and emotional state puts me off although the sex is great. I guess I have no choice but to move on or else my dick might be chewed off as keepsake. But to be honest her looks and figure is no where near 10/10 or else I will not be bother by the stickiness and submissiveness.

Sorry for the prolong extended narration. I will hunt and practice further but eventually my final battle ground will be in KTVs!

Hi bro Hooters666,

Ths for a detailed account of ur sexploit. Ur gal has been KC-ed by u!

Her desperation for u n ur dumping her illustrates a valuable axiom.

In any RS, stickiness n neediness in any one party, either male or female, is most unattractive n repulsive to the other party. The dependent, perhaps addicted, person has lost self control n lost all power in the RS. We should never, ever be in such a vulnerable n hapless position.

Thanks bro ME. Actually, like you I had my share of gila time pre-2006 when KTVs were that crazy at places like Kabuki/ XTD etc where all kinds of action happened in the rooms! Later, got into RS long term type fxxking because of the raw action after getting doctor to check the gal out ... damn shiok and addictive........ So, after a repeat fxxk with the STimer who happens to click very well, she starts to get ideas and I have to back peddle to avoid KC-traps unless I plan to bao for a while. That's where being a tycoon helps - and I am not one.

Sigh. I guess on balance, it is still better to follow your advice for local action - not to screw around "with feelings". Just enjoy the groping at KTVs, if we click - great, fire away and forget. As they say, you want milk - go buy a carton but not the cow!

Ths for sharing ur experiences n words of wisdom.

Cheers!

.................................................. ....................................

Greetings from Gotham City!!

By practicing Psycanics n NLP, I hv greatly diminished my urge for tall SYTs n now I want those shorter than 162! I hv not bonked such tiny gals for decades.

I hv checked my ctc list n could find only one such gal. She is XD who is 19 yo n 158, abt 43kg, on student visa.

I met her inside a very crowded lift at TAM complex 2 1/2 months ago. There were 4-5 tall gals inside n XD was conspicuous by her short stature. But she looked so pretty n cute n fresh w/ fair skin n proportionate figure...I asked n got her HP no. I then went to CI to look for tall SYTs, hehe. Ten minutes later, she called n asked for my rm no.! I was quite hesitant bcos she was so short, so asked her to butterfly. We had a very good time...n good rapport.

I called her a wk later but couldn't get thru. I called again before leaving SIN n she said OK to hv dinner n no need to pay for the time...but I couldn't meet her as I was very busy w/ my 2 full-time gals.

Now I think of her more than any other gals!! I fantasize how tight n tiny n wet her love hole is. And how she would moan n moan n convulse...

The other day I texted her n she replied that she looked forward to seeing me. I then called her at 1:30 AM SIN time n she was working at 1st Fl in TAM. She agreed to a dinner date the day after my return. Not sure abt ST though. Actually I'm hoping she would say NO to ST regardless of my offer. I'm certain she will agree to BY unless she is already being kept by someone. What hv I got to lose? Just the cost of dinner., hehe.:D

Cheers!

Bro WB

marc5

06-11-2010, 12:15 PM

people like WB BYBJ LDH Marc5 are all masters at their game...

Er...bro ME, I believe you made a mistake in listing me in the league. Me just an onlooker of this fascinating entertainment scene; observing the exciting fun (games) scripted and performed by the 名师 WB, DYBJ and LDH, and many more great masters. Me absolutely not in that premier class. :)

vellamoose

06-11-2010, 12:30 PM

MoralEpitome

06-11-2010, 01:21 PM

Er...bro ME, I believe you made a mistake in listing me in the league. Me just an onlooker of this fascinating entertainment scene; observing the exciting fun (games) scripted and performed by the 名师 WB, DYBJ and LDH, and many more great masters. Me absolutely not in that premier class. :)

I heard a rumour that you are their Da Ge...haha...I am the noob la...need to learn from you guys....

This forum is for sharing and learning and it's so easy nowadays via online web....not like last time have to call and meet up just to share pointers...anyway thanks all for the wondering sharings...

fun_n_pleasure

06-11-2010, 11:52 PM

Dragonkeep

07-11-2010, 05:06 PM

Wow bro Hooters666, you gave the FL such an intense orgasm that she became sticky to you... Wow, you're my idol man :D

And to bro DragonKeep, you managed to make your gal cum 7 -8 times a day... you're also my idol :D

Now this is official..., will the two master be so kind to reveal some details on how you guys managed to do that? Really salute you guys, please, please impart your junior bros here some kungfu, pleeaasseeeee....

Wha lou - if you check SBF, I think u can see a number of "masters" out there have had the same experience in super long multi-O sessions, usually with a baoed gal, so I definitely do not assume to be the only one of two worthy of the title!! Not sure about the techniques employed by the other brudders, but mine is based on the underlying theory I kinda gleaned from AV flicks where you notice that there is a lot of foreplay aimed at getting the gal fired up (basic rubba/ clit stroking/ licking/ vibrator action) before the guy (or guys in orgy scenes) charge in.

In simple terms, the technique I use is simply "ladies first" (to cum, that is). One drawback to this I notice, has been with those ST or GL gals who want to get right to the action, presumably because she wants to have each customer fire and forget quick, so she can call, "next!" and earn the next "fee". That is why a couple of very important related things needed for what I do are (a) adequate time; and/or (b) rapport.

Rapport alone was good enough for those ST/ GL bangs where I felt sextisfied enough to rate them with high GFE. I noticed this happens where the WL I am with, can 'click' fast enough in the session and she takes the trouble to be stimulated by me. Getting an ST from a KTV is sometimes a good thing as the amount responsiveness to groping, frenching etc in the room is usually a good indicator how well she will click in bed later, as many brudders would be able to surmise. So far, I have had a few requests and SMS from these satiated women to RTF after we swapped numbers, so I take it the sextisfaction was both ways. Be happy to pm you locations and WL concerned but am not sure if you will find them your type.

Anyhow, the time factor meant that my multi-orgasmic experiences are usually in a bao setting or otherwise outside the constraints of the 45 min/ 1 h or whatever commercially arranged period of time. This can happen for ST arrangements straight from the KTV if I can click well enough (though can't really say they were 'ST' after having to pay the H81 overtime charges:o).

Getting to the bedroom scene, the main method I use has been to find out which route is best to getting the gal to her state of "ladies first" - orgasm fast and frequently. I had a Singapore FB for a number of years, and she was multi-orgasmic when finger fucked. Another Singapore gal from Club I at Havelock that I see every now and then is similar. Those are simple and did not call for much effort. I would get them high, take a short break and go on again, whilst holding lil brother back from attacking and keeping the fella achingly patient. My 1st PRC RS was best stimulated orally. After cunnilingus (she took about 20 min average), any amount of ramming right after she came was sure to send her squirting and orgasmic a few times over. My 2d PRC RS gets to her state of orgasm fast by having her legs together and mine astride (i.e. unlike the usual guys' legs inside and the gal sticking hers skywards posture) and gripping her waist with my thighs. After her first shattering orgasm and a mandatory rest (her clit etc being too stimulated to be usable pleasurably), she gets high rather quickly and repeatedly after that. The great thing about the position above is that (for me) it makes for good control over shooting my load - a very important thing for keeping the gal multi-orgasamic.

I must add one biological caveat though: it could be that in my 40s now, my dick is less prone to being trigger happy. In my previous decade, the solution I used to controlling trigger happiness was to fire Load 1 early in the session and for some unclear reason, Load 2 would take much longer to shoot, generating the necessary stamina to keep pumping for a long time. Of course, that means that the gal should not have inhibitions about numbers of shots! As indicated, at my current age, the control seems to have come naturally now (noticed that in the course of my 'career' with the 1st PRC bao gal above).

One way to tell the gal is really blown and willing to get stimulated over again based on my experience has been (even with some ST or WLs): reddened patches around the neck (very noticeable with fair skinned PRC gals), she shuts up about any stubble being 'ticklish', her neck, shoulders and armpits stop becoming areas where she feels ticklish but rather she starts giving erotic responses where stimulated at these places, there are no adverse comments about sweat (heck some of them are wet all over from neck to cunt by then), she starts gripping the ol dicky real hard, the gal seems to be willing to have all other areas like he axxhole explored with minimal protest.

After she is in the state above, then it's just a question when to ram fast enough to shoot my load. In case it has not been noticed, a prime benefit of getting the gal into the multi-O state is that I dun have to ride too dangerously hard on the verge of ejaculation, so the whole transaction can last literally hours. After snaring the PRC bao-ees, I continued the RS in China, where overnight stays with me was standard. That's where the time factor allowed me to ram them from morning, stop for work, lunch break, afternoon and then shoot my load at night.

Hooters666

07-11-2010, 05:30 PM

Bravo Bravo Bravo Dragonkeep!

fun_n_pleasure

I am no master to be honest and sometimes I cannot get hard even with the most nubile naked chick next to me. Reason being is I dont feel connected to them and they are too commercialized for my dick to wake up from slumber. In fact the younger the chicks I am more prone to fire blanks. For the matured FLs, they will know how to seduce dick wide awake That is why I said earlier I am tried of the ST scene. I crave for some faked saccharin sweet GFEs. To get a girl to orgasm she has to be very comfortable with you and view the act as LOVEMAKING. Its all in their mind that needs to be able to get real horny, wet and orgas. A whore is programmed not to orgasm except in rare encounters. Also lots of foreplay has to take place bilaterally and not one sided. The girl needs all the moves she does on you to make it simple for you. Of course I don't advocate doing cunnilingus to all the whores in Geylang! But do so on selected gals and some hygiene inspection etc

All Bros

Today is an interesting sunday for me, I will usually go for a run to the Changi Village from my place of residence and took a bus back. But today is extraordinary as the bus driver is a sweet girl next door lass from Sichuan. I thought I was dreaming when the bus door open and she kind of looked at me for an extra moment as I was all sweaty and boarding her bus. I sat at the middle in a near empty bus and I noticed that she has nicely maintained eye brows and nice almond eyes while she checked out her rear mirror. I am not sure if she was looking at me but it appears so as the bus rear view mirror is useless anyway. So after the old changi hospital I walked to the front of the bus and started chatting to her. She appeared shocked but gradually warmed up. In fact in one the bus stop, she paused to take a drink from her tumbler while I said sorry for chatting and making you thirsty. She gave an embarrassed smile and said she has not spoke for a while since driving this shift and did not knew how her mouth is almost dried up. I was thinking why dont you said you have not fuck for a while and never knew that your pussy needs to keep the juice coming. LOL. We were chatting all the way until I alighted but I did not asked for phone number or anything. Maybe if I see her again next sunday. Anyway I take this as another practice for me to be always confident in all situations.

painter123

07-11-2010, 08:24 PM

bro can pm me the gal name?

besafe

07-11-2010, 09:46 PM

What is the bus number?

MoralEpitome

07-11-2010, 10:03 PM

wow....i actually stay near Changi Village....usually I only see ah guas and pinoys....never realise got well maintained bus drivers...haha

fun_n_pleasure

08-11-2010, 12:57 AM

Thank you bros DragonKeep and Hooters666 for sharing your personally experience. I really appreciate the time and efforts you guys put in to make my understanding clearer ;).

Well, I got zapped for asking and reason given was "Read the thread instead of asking for spoon feeding!"

I certainly don't meant to be spoon fed... and I've actually read quite a number of articles from googles on how to make women "cum like a bucket", and although there were many good articles... they seems kind of far and distanced. Perhaps the bro who zapped me got a point, but I think nothing beats hearing from the real life experience of "real people".

Overall, I think its ok to be zapped cause I'll learn... but just don't condemn me because of one mistake. Meaning... hope you can up me again in times when I contribute something in the future.

Cheers... and this really is a damn good thread!

warbird

08-11-2010, 02:36 AM

Er.......Me just an onlooker of this fascinating entertainment scene; observing the exciting fun (games) scripted and performed by the 名师 .......

Hi bro marc5,

How is CI? I heard there is a new batch n some really pretty ones. Just hope that there is one left for me on my return...

Still dun hv the ctc of the tall SYT?

Cheers!

Any chance to meet all the mentioned 名师?
It would really be great to learn from them

You could start by making ctc...you will be accepted if you prove ur worth.

I heard a rumour that you are their Da Ge...haha...I am the noob la...need to learn from you guys....

He is...a really cool, alpha man.

I'm a very close friend of his that's all:p

Good, you deserve to be a vice chairman, hehe.

Wow bro ME, your new a little subtle, what i heard was he is their 老大!

That is what I heard too.

Wha lou - if you check SBF, I think u can see a number of "masters" out there have had the same experience in super long multi-O sessions, usually with a baoed gal, so I definitely do not assume to be the only one of two worthy of the title!! Not sure about the techniques employed by the other brudders, but mine is based on the underlying theory I kinda gleaned from AV flicks where you notice that there is a lot of foreplay aimed at getting the gal fired up (basic rubba/ clit stroking/ licking/ vibrator action) before the guy (or guys in orgy scenes) charge in.

In simple terms, the technique I use is simply "ladies first" (to cum, that is). One drawback to this I notice, has been with those ST or GL gals who want to get right to the action............................................ .................................

After she is in the state above, then it's just a question when to ram fast enough to shoot my load. In case it has not been noticed, a prime benefit of getting the gal into the multi-O state is that I dun have to ride too dangerously hard on the verge of ejaculation, so the whole transaction can last literally hours. After snaring the PRC bao-ees, I continued the RS in China, where overnight stays with me was standard. That's where the time factor allowed me to ram them from morning, stop for work, lunch break, afternoon and then shoot my load at night.

Hi bro Dragonkeep,

Ths for sharing. Your method is excellent!

Bravo Bravo Bravo Dragonkeep!

..................... To get a girl to orgasm she has to be very comfortable with you and view the act as LOVEMAKING. Its all in their mind that needs to be able to get real horny, wet and orgas. A whore is programmed not to orgasm except in rare encounters. Also lots of foreplay has to take place bilaterally and not one sided. The girl needs all the moves she does on you to make it simple for you. Of course I don't advocate doing cunnilingus to all the whores in Geylang! But do so on selected gals and some hygiene inspection etc

All Bros

Today is an interesting sunday for me, I will usually go for a run to the Changi Village from my place of residence and took a bus back. But today is extraordinary as the bus driver is a sweet girl next door lass from Sichuan.............We were chatting all the way until I alighted but I did not asked for phone number or anything. Maybe if I see her again next sunday. Anyway I take this as another practice for me to be always confident in all situations.

Hi bro Hooters666,

Yes, the most powerful sex organ in a gal is her brain. If she feels relaxed, safe n trusts u n u r not repulsive to her, she will cum n cum n even go into COS if u hv the right moves, hehehe. But squirting has been more elusive to me. I think a gal has to be coached on how to squirt.

Get ger ctc n up her, bro.

What is the bus number?

Hi bro besafe,

You also leave no stone unturned, hehe.

Any new SYTs for me? BTW, any height will do now, but she has to be young, pretty n cute n has the right proportions. no thick arms n legs of course.

CheerS!

Thank you bros DragonKeep and Hooters666 for sharing your personally experience. I really appreciate the time and efforts you guys put in to make my understanding clearer ;).

Well, I got zapped for asking and reason given was "Read the thread instead of asking for spoon feeding!"
.................................................. ......
Overall, I think its ok to be zapped cause I'll learn......

Relaxed...u can't please every bro out there no matter what u write.

Cheers!

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Greetings from Gotham City!

I'm very happy despite the sinking of the once mighty Greenback...I'll incur huge losses in purchasing power if n when I convert it into RMB or SGD. I hv not done so n will not do so. With QE2, the USD has no where to go but down.

A bit of good news. A good fren (who has a PhD from MIT) I hv known for a long time is starting a high tech co (related to electric cars n other industrial applications) in SZ, China n has invited me to be an early investor. It will be a joint venture w/ the PRC gov. Finally, I may hv a good reason to spend lots of time there, hehe.;)

Separately, even student visa for many PRC gals is taking longer n longer for approval. A former BAO-ee is in Jakarta, working at 金莎, waiting to come to SIN. She denies doing ST or being BAO-ed. Has any bro been to the joint? Do all the gals do ST there? Ths for the info.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MillerV

08-11-2010, 03:32 AM

Bravo Bravo Bravo Dragonkeep!

She appeared shocked but gradually warmed up. In fact in one the bus stop, she paused to take a drink from her tumbler while I said sorry for chatting and making you thirsty. She gave an embarrassed smile and said she has not spoke for a while since driving this shift and did not knew how her mouth is almost dried up.

I say the heat & wetness in her pussy is causing her throat to be dry. Well done Bro Hooters!!! :p

Been interesting reading up this thread.
Got in the action abit late, tot its really about picking up gals outside KTV only.
But reading the last few pages, been a wealth of knowledge.

Great week ahead guys!

marc5

08-11-2010, 05:35 PM

Hi bro marc5,

How is CI? I heard there is a new batch n some really pretty ones. Just hope that there is one left for me on my return...

Still dun hv the ctc of the tall SYT?

Bro WB

Hi bro WB, CI is always well stocked with SYTs. Don't worry, there will always be new supplies to the establishments. When will you return?

The tall SYT has probably baoed by someone who is willing to fork out >8K a month...never seen or heard about her these days. :)

besafe

08-11-2010, 10:03 PM

Hi bro besafe,
You also leave no stone unturned, hehe.
Any new SYTs for me? BTW, any height will do now, but she has to be young, pretty n cute n has the right proportions. no thick arms n legs of course.
CheerS!

Bro WB

Hi Bro WB,

I am just curious that's all.
BTW, I have quitted the KTV scene.
No more into BY anymore.
However still go for the occasional FL or Legal house.
But if I have any good ones, I will inform you.
Cheers.

warbird

09-11-2010, 03:43 AM

I say the heat & wetness in her pussy is causing her throat to be dry. Well done Bro Hooters!!!........................................ .................
Great week ahead guys!

Hi bro MillerV,

You r a keen observer!

When a gal is on heat (ovulating), if u create the right ambience, imitate the tongue of a serpent n use the most heat-generating techniques, she will cum n cum continuously (COS) n may even squirt, hehe. :D

Hi bro WB, CI is always well stocked with SYTs. Don't worry, there will always be new supplies to the establishments. When will you return?

The tall SYT has probably baoed by someone who is willing to fork out >8K a month...never seen or heard about her these days.

Hi bro marc5,

I'll probably return before the end of the month.

That particular SYT has piqued my interest, even though I hv never seen her before.

She must be one chio pussy bcos I know ur uncompromising standards n ur reluctance to BY anyone. If she is my coveted type, I'll make an offer she can't refuse, unless her current patron is a fren. I understand that she is 19-20 yo n 168, even though height is less important to me now. If u do find her ctc, pls PM me. Ths so much!!

Hope to c u soon.

Cheers!

Hi Bro WB,

I am just curious that's all.
BTW, I have quitted the KTV scene.
No more into BY anymore.
However still go for the occasional FL or Legal house.
But if I have any good ones, I will inform you.
Cheers.

hi bro besafe,

Ok. Some ST n legal gals r surprising sextisfying.

Cheers!

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Good morning!

I know a SYT in china whom I like very much who is applying for student visa n my agent just informed me that all her documents r ready. I hv to pay him 1k within 2-3 days. What to do as I'm in Gotham City?

I called a mummy 3 hrs ago n she said she would pay on my behalf, hehe.:p Of course I'll pay her back asap on my return. She was very sober when I spoke w/ her but was rather tipsy when my agent just called her.:(

I even woke up a fren for backup just in case the mummy reneges on her promise.

Separately, the gal in Jakarta is still waiting for her student visa. She may come soon (no pun intended). She also wants to go to Korea for 10 days around mid-Dec. I asked her why? To visit her GFs n to hv plastic surgery! I know it's not going to be a boob job as she has natural big Cs, so I said: 你五官都很漂亮, 不必做啦。 She replied：我要更漂亮！

Most of my BAO-ees r young, immature n not satisfied w/ their looks n figure. KW n BB r among the most confident ones. I guess other PRC SYTs r the same. That knowledge is most useful, hehe.;)

Cheers!

Bro WB

Dragonkeep

09-11-2010, 02:49 PM

Bravo Bravo Bravo Dragonkeep!

fun_n_pleasure

I am no master to be honest and sometimes I cannot get hard even with the most nubile naked chick next to me. Reason being is I dont feel connected to them and they are too commercialized for my dick to wake up from slumber. In fact the younger the chicks I am more prone to fire blanks. For the matured FLs, they will know how to seduce dick wide awake That is why I said earlier I am tried of the ST scene. I crave for some faked saccharin sweet GFEs. To get a girl to orgasm she has to be very comfortable with you and view the act as LOVEMAKING. Its all in their mind that needs to be able to get real horny, wet and orgas. A whore is programmed not to orgasm except in rare encounters. Also lots of foreplay has to take place bilaterally and not one sided. The girl needs all the moves she does on you to make it simple for you. Of course I don't advocate doing cunnilingus to all the whores in Geylang! But do so on selected gals and some hygiene inspection etc

Thanks bro!

Quite agree with your "lovemaking" factor. That's what I meant by the "rapport". One bao candidate I got in Sing from LV, already calling me Lao Gong, needs a lot of coaching to make it. She looks great for the ego when taking her out, but kinda stiff in bed. I'm following Bro WB's advice to tell her what the Baoees before her were like and how hot they have been. Let's see if she shapes up or be shipped out. 100% agree about the blowjob caution: let's not get carried away. Only diff I between our techniques I guess is that I tend to do all the "groundwork" first with the gal who's worth bedding and exercising dick restraint for a while. Seems to pay dividends later ;)

Actually in Shenzhen practising what I was preaching. Catching the red-eye Tiger flight back to the Lion City tonite - leaving my cum-blasted baoee to head back to FZ after a 3-day bangathon. Got really hot and horny after a wild night at Lili Marlene near Coco Park in Shenzhen last night. Boy was she tight!!!

MillerV

09-11-2010, 11:23 PM

Hi bro marc5,

You could start by making ctc...you will be accepted if you prove ur worth.

Bro WB

Hmmm whats the criteria to prove one's worth in this thread?

fun_n_pleasure

10-11-2010, 02:06 PM

Thank you bro warbird for the upz and support. Actually the zap did not bother me much, but I do want to avoid the spiral effect of others zapping me too just because my points are low.

I'll continue to work to improve myself and to contribute in what little ways I could ;)

warbird

12-11-2010, 06:27 AM

Thanks bro!

Quite agree with your "lovemaking" factor. That's what I meant by the "rapport".....................I'm following Bro WB's advice to tell her what the Baoees before her were like and how hot they have been. Let's see if she shapes up or be shipped out. 100% agree about the blowjob caution: let's not get carried away. Only diff I between our techniques I guess is that I tend to do all the "groundwork" first with the gal who's worth bedding and exercising dick restraint for a while. Seems to pay dividends later ;)

Actually in Shenzhen practising what I was preaching. Catching the red-eye Tiger flight back to the Lion City tonite - leaving my cum-blasted baoee to head back to FZ after a 3-day bangathon...................

Hi bro, u hv excellent self mastery n r behaving like a long-term investor.

In contrast, I must restrain my dick better when meeting a pretty SYT for the 1st time. I often offer ST or BY within 2 hrs of meeting her bcos of inadequate self control...I'll slow down a n put it on leash, hehehe. I hv some way to go before achieving my goal of absolute self mastery.

Hmmm whats the criteria to prove one's worth in this thread?

Not in this thread, which is unimportant, but in real life. Demonstrate that u r a dependable n trustworthy person.

Thank you bro warbird for the upz and support. Actually the zap did not bother me much, but I do want to avoid the spiral effect of others zapping me too just because my points are low.

I'll continue to work to improve myself and to contribute in what little ways I could ;)

Hi bro,

You're most welcome.

Very educational n interesting thread, so like to thanks TS n all Bros for sharing your valuable 1st hand experience over the years n efforts........
As I am currently with a KTV mid 20 PRC mei mei on student pass in Orchard area but never been to her working place. Was intro by her姐妹. First meeting already made me RTF the next day. With this thread as a valuable guide, will see how I can stay on board w/o sinking n come back posting.
................

Pls update us on ur BY-ing.

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Greetings to all samsters from the Empire of Debt!

BTW, my good mummy has paid 1K to my agent. It's the 1st time someone ever advanced money on my behalf n I sincerely appreciate her trust in me. Hopefully, my gal will come before mid-Dec...

The other gal in Indonesia is still waiting for her student visa, n in the meantime, she wants to meet me in Jakarta which I declined. I suggested Batam n she said OK...hmm, I'll need a fren to go w/ me. I miss her youthful yet voluptuous body.

Life is ironic. A few of my ex-mistresses currently in China hv told me that they dun want to come to SIN, ever. I suspect they may be hitched. It's my weakness that I sometimes still like to make love to my ex-gals. On the other hand, some gals who previously flatly rejected my offer for ST or BY now say YES. Two of them even agree to a trial session, haha. Life is constantly changing n that is just great.:D

Cheers!

Bro WB

vellamoose

12-11-2010, 12:49 PM

WB, very good write ups and very educational. My humble respects to you :)

jamezwit

12-11-2010, 02:21 PM

Bro WB and other sifus have contributed a lot of knowledge and info here. Here is a brief sitrep of my BY experience.

After chionging KTVs, WLs from forums, and legal houses, I realised that I'm a know a person before sex (in fact, I prefer the term making love) type.

So I started to look at those Woman Looking for Men type of ad posts, but these are few and far in between, either they give terms and conditions (who is the person who has the need and means har?) or they don't reply (I found out later that girls generally look at those Men Looking for Women ads rather than the other way around). So I posted a few ads, say some of my general terms and with preference for PRC students, and started on the journey to find exclusive baoyee GFs.

So far, I've had 5 baoyees, 1 from SG, 1 from MY, and 3 from PRCs. Interestingly, three of them are students (the SG, MY, and 1 PRC) while two are working professionals (really executive in real company that I pick up from their office more than a few times). All between 21-22 yo, except one.

During initial meet up to know each other sessions, I usually start with hand holding and short kisses first couple of times when go out for dinner or movie. I confirm the baoying by saying that they need to get their place so that we can meet discreetly. Even then, only heavy petting but no sex, and once they get more comfortable, after the first love making session, hug and don't let go and they won't let go as well if you really show that you care about them.

I'm direct with them as far as possible. I tell them they can ask whatever question and those I can answer I'll tell them. Then you will be in a comfortable r/s and only if they're too sticky, I'll just tell them straight or let it cool off for a week or two without meeting. They sometimes ask about my previous BY, but only to ascertain that they are prettier (I also don't know why being prettier is the one important thing they must ask ;-) )

My BYs don't ask too much $$, some of them only ask to cover for lodging (a master room in a condo, although one had a common room but few other tenants and all work late so less people around the unit), others ask for room+allowance which I tell them upfront my limit of giving, they usually agree with it since they are not really desperate, or $$ is not the only reason. One of them even still have money support from home but of course I don't live off it, I supplement her school fees plus lodging.

So far, I only dropped the MY BY real fast becos she was two-timing, she got another BF who is away from SG a lot but she keep sending the guy emails/sms so I found out and dropped her. The rest all quite ok and the relationship last for a while and always parted way amicably and usually because they finished their work permit stay or study.

Only thing is the relationship can be too deep, and they feel lonely and since the way I prefer is to have feelings, so they sticky a bit. But I get great love making after being didn't meet for a few days or a week or two. I think it's win-win in my BY experience so far. Only thing is got to filter a bit and it takes effort and time to read the girl's mind and to show concern. Sometimes just words and a hug they will cry on your shoulder. I'm no handsome man, so I've to double or triple on the attention and the small things, like they appreciate you bring them to good eating place (no need high end stuff) and treating them with respect, since the young BY that can come to study (for real, not the KTV gals) or work as executive are pampered at home from young (one family one child), although they know that they need to adjust living on their own and doing their own household chores, they sometimes just felt lonely and the way younger generation of PRC from city is more open, had sex early and some had relationship with older man already in PRC. It's eye opening talking to them (only after they are comfortable to open up about this part of their life).

Cheers.

gigigagago

13-11-2010, 01:45 AM

I know a SYT in china whom I like very much who is applying for student visa n my agent just informed me that all her documents r ready.

...

Separately, the gal in Jakarta is still waiting for her student visa.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Hahaha 老大, your collection grew so much now I'm confused already. The SYT in China or the Jakarta one is the Dongbei girl? Your avatar is the Dongbei girl right? If my memory is still functional, it's this Dongbei chick whom you quite fancy under your parade of BY-ees, but eventually ended up in a rough relationship with a guy from her same hometown... Not quite sure if you know who I'm referring to. Hahaha. But from what I read you seem to quite like her a lot. Is she the one that's returning for your loving? :D

gigigagago

13-11-2010, 01:56 AM

I often offer ST or BY within 2 hrs of meeting her bcos of inadequate self control...I'll slow down a n put it on leash, hehehe. I hv some way to go before achieving my goal of absolute self mastery.

...

Greetings to all samsters from the Empire of Debt!

Cheers!

Bro WB

Haha big bro, for others it may be "indequate self control", for you it's purely your confidence working ahead of you. :D

Oh, also, recently many countries are devaluing their currencies... Hope you're not affected, Bro WB. Although I haven't met you but I should believe you wouldn't even need to bat an eyelid right? All the best in your investments! :D

gigigagago

13-11-2010, 01:57 AM

Bro WB and other sifus have contributed a lot of knowledge and info here. Here is a brief sitrep of my BY experience.

Cheers.

Nice! More and more Bao-ers appearing in this amazing thread! So happy, man. More and more esteemed masters to "leech" wisdom from. Hahaha. Big welcome to you Bro jamezwit! :D

gigigagago

13-11-2010, 02:12 AM

She stayed w/ a Jap gal (my S'pore fren's gal), another TWA stewardess, n my fren n I used to visit them. I either fxked her in her apt when her GF was out or in the backseat of my car. A sort of revenge? Two S'pore guys taking on the Axis power, hehehe.

Go out n bed a pretty German SYT n post ur FR here, hahaha.

...

Cheers!

Bro WB

Haha in that case shouldn't I snag an Italian to close a hat-trick of Axis-ians? :D

warbird

13-11-2010, 04:30 AM

I wish I could BY-ing her...

Your time will come...

WB, very good write ups and very educational. My humble respects to you :)

Bro, I'm humbled by ur flattering words.

IMHO, a truly dependable n trustworthy man is head n shoulders above all others, regardless of his current status n material possessions.

Bro WB and other sifus have contributed a lot of knowledge and info here. Here is a brief sitrep of my BY experience.

After chionging KTVs, WLs from forums, and legal houses, I realised that I'm a know a person before sex (in fact, I prefer the term making love) type.............................................. So I posted a few ads, say some of my general terms and with preference for PRC students, and started on the journey to find exclusive baoyee GFs.

So far, I've had 5 baoyees, 1 from SG, 1 from MY, and 3 from PRCs. Interestingly, three of them are students (the SG, MY, and 1 PRC) while two are working professionals (really executive in real company that I pick up from their office more than a few times). All between 21-22 yo, except one.

During initial meet up to know each other sessions, I usually start with hand holding and short kisses first couple of times when go out for dinner or movie. I confirm the baoying by saying that they need to get their place so that we can meet discreetly. Even then, only heavy petting but no sex, and once they get more comfortable, after the first love making session, hug and don't let go and they won't let go as well if you really show that you care about them.

I'm direct with them as far as possible...............................

My BYs don't ask too much $$, some of them only ask to cover for lodging (a master room in a condo, although one had a common room but few other tenants and all work late so less people around the unit), others ask for room+allowance which I tell them upfront my limit of giving, they usually agree with it since they are not really desperate, or $$ is not the only reason. .......................................
always parted way amicably and usually because they finished their work permit stay or study.

Only thing is the relationship can be too deep, and they feel lonely and since the way I prefer is to have feelings, so they sticky a bit. But I get great love making after being didn't meet for a few days or a week or two. I think it's win-win in my BY experience so far. Only thing is got to filter a bit and it takes effort and time to read the girl's mind and to show concern. Sometimes just words and a hug they will cry on your shoulder. I'm no handsome man, so I've to double or triple on the attention and the small things............................................ ...sometimes just felt lonely and the way younger generation of PRC from city is more open, had sex early and some had relationship with older man already in PRC. It's eye opening talking to them (only after they are comfortable to open up about this part of their life).

Hi bro jamezwit,

Ths so much for sharing ur BY experiences w/ us.

You belong to the romantic n sensual type n u want to hv feelings n take ur time to court ur BAO-ees...n u make love to the them. You r the type preferred by most gals/women.

Unfortunately, I'm more like a beast, a predator n I want to fxk them asap. For me, feelings, if any, would come later...

I'll make a conscious effort to emulate ur method n go slow..

Cheers!

Hahaha 老大, your collection grew so much now I'm confused already. The SYT in China or the Jakarta one is the Dongbei girl? Your avatar is the Dongbei girl right? If my memory is still functional, it's this Dongbei chick whom you quite fancy under your parade of BY-ees, but eventually ended up in a rough relationship with a guy from her same hometown... Not quite sure if you know who I'm referring to. Hahaha. But from what I read you seem to quite like her a lot. Is she the one that's returning for your loving?[COLOR="Blue"]

Hi bro gigigagago,

I'm not a 老大, I'm a 老头子，hehe.

Yes, the tall gal in Jakarta is from Dongbei. She wants to meet me in Batam. The SYT in China is coming next month.

The gal in my avatar a SZ gal who fell in love w/ a fellow student from China. She is a pauper now n has very strained RS w/ her immature BF. She has made overtures...but I'm not sure if I want her again.

Actually, I hv another former mistress who just started work at 金沙 Jakarta! It's a posh joint. Has anyone been there before?

Cheers!

[COLOR="Blue"]Haha big bro, for others it may be "indequate self control", for you it's purely your confidence working ahead of you. :D

Oh, also, recently many countries are devaluing their currencies... Hope you're not affected, Bro WB. ..........

I need to rein in my didi to give the impression it's not a pure transaction. Many of them actually complain that 你一点感情都没有，你只要和我做爱 or worse, 你只要操我 (fxk me). I hv to learn to change my bad image...

So far the decline of the Greenback has not affected me much as I do hv assets in some Asian countries. It still hurts a bit.

Nice! More and more Bao-ers appearing in this amazing thread! So happy, man. More and more esteemed masters to "leech" wisdom from. Hahaha. Big welcome to you Bro jamezwit! :D
Haha in that case shouldn't I snag an Italian to close a hat-trick of Axis-ians? :D

Bro jamezwit is an experienced BAO-er n we hv much to learn from him. Hope that he will continue to share his wisdom n sexploits w/ us.

Yeah, all of us should keep a German, a Japanese n an Italian to complete the "Axis gals". They r very different, bro, hehehe.

Cheers!

Bro WB

roamersg

13-11-2010, 08:18 AM

So I started to look at those Woman Looking for Men type of ad posts, but these are few and far in between, either they give terms and conditions (who is the person who has the need and means har?) or they don't reply (I found out later that girls generally look at those Men Looking for Women ads rather than the other way around). So I posted a few ads, say some of my general terms and with preference for PRC students, and started on the journey to find exclusive baoyee GFs.

So far, I've had 5 baoyees, 1 from SG, 1 from MY, and 3 from PRCs. Interestingly, three of them are students (the SG, MY, and 1 PRC) while two are working professionals (really executive in real company that I pick up from their office more than a few times). All between 21-22 yo, except one.

Thanks for adding another tactic to our combat playbook :D. I probably don't have the patience for this approach, though. Even if more expensive, I like the window shopping in KTVs, at least can see many SYTs in short dresses

Dragonkeep

13-11-2010, 01:12 PM

During initial meet up to know each other sessions, I usually start with hand holding and short kisses first couple of times when go out for dinner or movie. I confirm the baoying by saying that they need to get their place so that we can meet discreetly. Even then, only heavy petting but no sex, and once they get more comfortable, after the first love making session, hug and don't let go and they won't let go as well if you really show that you care about them.

So far, I only dropped the MY BY real fast becos she was two-timing, she got another BF who is away from SG a lot but she keep sending the guy emails/sms so I found out and dropped her. The rest all quite ok and the relationship last for a while and always parted way amicably and usually because they finished their work permit stay or study.

Only thing is the relationship can be too deep, and they feel lonely and since the way I prefer is to have feelings, so they sticky a bit. But I get great love making after being didn't meet for a few days or a week or two. I think it's win-win in my BY experience so far. Only thing is got to filter a bit and it takes effort and time to read the girl's mind and to show concern. Sometimes just words and a hug they will cry on your shoulder. I'm no handsome man, so I've to double or triple on the attention and the small things, like they appreciate you bring them to good eating place (no need high end stuff) and treating them with respect, since the young BY that can come to study (for real, not the KTV gals) or work as executive are pampered at home from young (one family one child), although they know that they need to adjust living on their own and doing their own household chores, they sometimes just felt lonely and the way younger generation of PRC from city is more open, had sex early and some had relationship with older man already in PRC. It's eye opening talking to them (only after they are comfortable to open up about this part of their life).

Cheers.

Wah lou, quite the romantic, as our Raptor Bro WB observes!! Looks like your dick-restraint at the start paid off handsomely.

Actually, I get the impression the RS type baoees like to look back at some period of courtship. They still reflect on my apparent self control at the start when chasing them (basically because I was either still going heavy on WLs and FBs or doing a retrograde action with the previous RS baoee whom I was about to replace with her, and fxxking away all the ammo knowing that the last bang was imminent!!!), innocently commenting fondly that 这么多时间过了, 我们才发生关系 (such a long time passed before we screwed). Of coz, nowadays, after so many marathon sessions, the RS sometimes starts to wonder suspiciously how I cope without her in between seeing her!!

A current under probation baoee was even pestering me to get "our own place" and bang there instead of doing a H81, saying that she was looking for nice long RS as my concubine and not just a ST girl. Managed to manoeuvre her out of that pipedream via the usual remedy: some good faith downpayment $$ and a first night bang at a 5-star hotel after a posh dinner.

IMHO a good thing about having a "courtship" is that we can size up how loyal the baoee can be, as one of the ego puncturing and anger inducing things is to find out like Bro Jamezwit about getting Julius Caesared, ie. stabbed in the back by a betrayal. However, if we keep the relationship purely for fxxks and not let KC get too much in the way, then it does not matter too much about telling her to take a hike, although the sayang thing is the loss of too much investment when the situation calls for getting the baoee fired too soon after making a $$ downpayment on her.

I must say that all the collective wisdom on baoees is quite an eye-opener and a helluva good source of picking up battle tactics. Happy baoing!

MoralEpitome

13-11-2010, 02:24 PM

Wah lou, quite the romantic, as our Raptor Bro WB observes!! Looks like your dick-restraint at the start paid off handsomely.

Actually, I get the impression the RS type baoees like to look back at some period of courtship. They still reflect on my apparent self control at the start when chasing them (basically because I was either still going heavy on WLs and FBs or doing a retrograde action with the previous RS baoee whom I was about to replace with her, and fxxking away all the ammo knowing that the last bang was imminent!!!), innocently commenting fondly that 这么多时间过了, 我们才发生关系 (such a long time passed before we screwed). Of coz, nowadays, after so many marathon sessions, the RS sometimes starts to wonder suspiciously how I cope without her in between seeing her!!

A current under probation baoee was even pestering me to get "our own place" and bang there instead of doing a H81, saying that she was looking for nice long RS as my concubine and not just a ST girl. Managed to manoeuvre her out of that pipedream via the usual remedy: some good faith downpayment $$ and a first night bang at a 5-star hotel after a posh dinner.

IMHO a good thing about having a "courtship" is that we can size up how loyal the baoee can be, as one of the ego puncturing and anger inducing things is to find out like Bro Jamezwit about getting Julius Caesared, ie. stabbed in the back by a betrayal. However, if we keep the relationship purely for fxxks and not let KC get too much in the way, then it does not matter too much about telling her to take a hike, although the sayang thing is the loss of too much investment when the situation calls for getting the baoee fired too soon after making a $$ downpayment on her.

I must say that all the collective wisdom on baoees is quite an eye-opener and a helluva good source of picking up battle tactics. Happy baoing!

I like his approach...money can do alot of things....but we should turn the tide and KC the girls to do things for us...I think it would be the ultimate if we can do a reverse KC... that would be the epitome of self mastery....getting bored of offering money to screw, but of course if the needs arise still can use money to solve....

Let's try to see if I can get girls to fall in love with me without spending too much...would try this experiment over the next few months as I have a list of ST/WLs for sexual needs already...but I doubt I will have much luck unless I put in a whole lot of effort...and if time is money...actually end up same...hahaha....

MillerV

14-11-2010, 12:05 PM

Dragonkeep

14-11-2010, 06:23 PM

Let's try to see if I can get girls to fall in love with me without spending too much...would try this experiment over the next few months as I have a list of ST/WLs for sexual needs already...but I doubt I will have much luck unless I put in a whole lot of effort...and if time is money...actually end up same...hahaha....

Will be highly interested to see how it goes and pick up some more tips!

As shared earlier in this thread, looks like we are all kinda stuck with the problem that except for the Sean Connery types, we can usually get only 2 out of cheap, fast and good at one time - cheap, fast but not good (low cost straight to the action with a ST Queen), fast and good but not cheap ($$$ and the Ang Pai drops her skirts) or cheap and good, but not fast (patient courting and KC growing). You may be right, brudder about the time = money equation. The problem with the patient route is that we gotta be prepared for some cock-ache - but those of us with long reserve lists of FBs/WLs need not worry too much, heh heh.

warbird

15-11-2010, 03:01 AM

Thanks for adding another tactic to our combat playbook. I probably don't have the patience for this approach, though. Even if more expensive, I like the window shopping in KTVs, at least can see many SYTs in short dresses

I'm in the same boat, but would be very patient if the gal is my dream gal.

Wah lou, quite the romantic, as our Raptor Bro WB observes!! Looks like your dick-restraint at the start paid off handsomely.

Actually, I get the impression the RS type baoees like to look back at some period of courtship. They still reflect on my apparent self control at the start when chasing them (basically because I was either still going heavy on WLs and FBs..................Of coz, nowadays, after so many marathon sessions, the RS sometimes starts to wonder suspiciously how I cope without her in between seeing her!!

A current under probation baoee..............

IMHO a good thing about having a "courtship" is that we can size up how loyal the baoee can be, as one of the ego puncturing and anger inducing things is to find out like Bro Jamezwit about getting Julius Caesared, ie. stabbed in the back by a betrayal. However, if we keep the relationship purely for fxxks and not let KC get too much......................

I must say that all the collective wisdom on baoees is quite an eye-opener and a helluva good source of picking up battle tactics. Happy baoing!

Your own tactical moves r quite impressive!

There were times when I had a full-time BAO-ee n another coming soon n I still couldn't wait to bonk a certain SYT of my type. Wat to do?

I like his approach...money can do alot of things....but we should turn the tide and KC the girls to do things for us...I think it would be the ultimate if we can do a reverse KC... that would be the epitome of self mastery..........................................
Let's try to see if I can get girls to fall in love with me without spending too much.......................but I doubt I will have much luck unless I put in a whole lot of effort...and if time is money...actually end up same...hahaha....

Yes, u can do it!

Getting a pretty SYT, especially a WL, to fall in love w/ u would indeed be the ultimate test of ur self mastery. It's a challenge for all cheongsters.

BTW, being the only man ever to give her regular COS may or may not be enuff to make her fall for u. Every gal is different. Oftentimes, u also need the key to a hidden "emotional lock" which is specific to that particular gal, hehe.

Bro Jameszwit, Great sharing. which website listings do you think are most effective?

I like to know too.

Will be highly interested to see how it goes and pick up some more tips!

As shared earlier in this thread, looks like we are all kinda stuck with the problem that except for the Sean Connery types..............................but those of us with long reserve lists of FBs/WLs need not worry too much, heh heh.

I like ur concept that most of us can only get of 2 out of 3 (Fast, Good n Cheap) in BY-ing. I hv experienced 2 other combinations.

1) Not Cheap, not Good n not Fast.

A good example is my saga w/ CD. I courted her in early Sep last yr. She agreed to all the BY-ing terms n then vanished! She was BY-ed by another man. I was quite upset for wks. Came back to work towards late Dec n I was alerted to this fact by bro LDH in Jan when I already had 2 full-time mistresses (KK n BB) n a part-time one (a singer from LV). To cut a long story short, CD n I were together for 1 wk during CNY when KK was back in China for the holidays.

Outwardly, she was a tall, chio SYT, etc (see my many posts on her). But I was most disappointed bcos her pussy was not pretty to me (big dark brown flaps) n it was loose.:( I was fortunate to hv her for a wk, otherwise I would still fantasize about how wonderful to make love to her, hehehe.

2) Cheap, Good n Fast.

I BY-ed a tall, pretty n sexy Hubei MILF (she was 27 ) part-time for 2 wks from TAM complex less than 3 months ago. She was the one w/ near perfect snow white figure n dimples of Venus. Also beautiful natural C boobs, pink, tight pussy n the best butt of any China gals I hv seen n long nice legs n slender arms. She was a great, great fxk n she squirted (see my posts).:D Sadly, she had to leave bcos her visitor's visa was expiring. She is still in China.

Once I brought her to DC n my young fren n others were eager to peek at her deep cleavage n boobs which she hid w/ a blouse. She was such a cock-tease! She reluctantly took it off for a few minutes when I told her to, hahaha. I really miss her n can only make do by looking at her explicit video clips...for now. I hv offered to BY her full-time should she return.

Separately, one of my gals in Jakarta just told me she could only come to SIN on a singer permit, the on-stage type as she couldn't get the non-working type according to her agent. I told her I wont keep her. When she comes I'll just do ST w/ her, hehe. Much, much lower pricing as she wont be exclusive to me. ;)

Cheers!

Bro WB

jamezwit

15-11-2010, 05:42 PM

Your time will come...

Ths so much for sharing ur BY experiences w/ us.

You belong to the romantic n sensual type n u want to hv feelings n take ur time to court ur BAO-ees...n u make love to the them. You r the type preferred by most gals/women.

Unfortunately, I'm more like a beast, a predator n I want to fxk them asap. For me, feelings, if any, would come later...

I'll make a conscious effort to emulate ur method n go slow..

Bro WB

Bro Warbird, I guess each has their preference :)

I need to learn to be more hard hearted, especially when the r/s becomes sticky. So still in a learning mode to be soft/hard/soft (pun intended), hahaha.

I don't know about the preference, my MY Baoyee took advantage of my soft heardedness, thus I've learned to be a bit more inquisitive. I also learn from your earlier posts here that to be unannounced when turn up at the BY place, and I'll just say "我有空就来“， even though earlier I've already said I cannot make it. Like you shared and I paraphrase here and sorry if I got it wrong, a mind that controls both purse, mind and pussy will be powerful.

warbird

16-11-2010, 04:08 AM

Good morning!!

A RS guru has written extensively on the subject of what is a real MAN n how to be a cool guy. He discussed a frequent challenge:

You want to be a cool guy, and you know cool guys
attract women. So what happens when someone does something to you that isn't so cool? How should you respond?

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HOW COOL GUYS RESPOND TO UNCOOL PEOPLE

Mr. Guru,

How does a cool person deal with "being hurt" by other people? I mean he loves people, he invests in them by making them feel better (not for the sake of seeking approval), then one of those people says or does something that really makes him mad.

It happened to me a couple of times and I feel like I need to flat out say something nasty back to them, otherwise I will feel hurt on the inside for a while.

For my own well-being it seems right to do so. But is this the
right thing to do?

Thanks,

Bro XX (Gotham City)

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Hello Bro XX:

Thanks for writing. What a great, great question.

The short answer is: Just let it go. Don't put yourself on anyone's level who you consider uncool...ever. To do so would be to sacrifice self-respect.

Usually the other person is behaving in that manner toward you either because they're embarrassed, jealous of your success in some way, or flat-out insecure.

Just like we talk about in our audio on the subject
, the truly cool guy indeed thrives on helping others around him look and feel cooler.

Only guys who have A LOT to work on in this department ever feel need to put others down to make themselves look good.

Think about it. Have you ever observed someone who is actively trying to make someone else look bad and thought to yourself what a cool guy he is? Of course not.

One differentiation I do want to make is between saying something to someone that is DIRECT versus something that is truly MEAN.

If you have a solid measure of self-respect you won't allow
manipulators to walk all over you. So when you sense someone is attempting to take advantage of you, calling them out on it is absolutely the right thing to do.

A similar principle holds true if you're a man with high ethical
standards and someone is doing something in your presence that you view as very wrong--especially if he or she is encouraging you to partake.

Note that when you're being DIRECT you're calling out an ACTION or BEHAVIOR, not the PERSON him or herself. What is said is honest, even if not exactly "pretty", but it's never an INSULT.

Generally speaking, although I personally say a lot of DIRECT
things when appropriate, I make it a point never to insult people with mean, ad hominem personal comments.

It's not uncommon to get mean comments IN RETURN having said something direct, however. In fact, deep down the fear of getting insulted is probably what keeps most of us from being direct when the situation calls for it, right?

Universally, however, receiving insults in response to directness is a sign that it's not a good idea to continue dealing with the person. Don't allow yourself to be drawn into that sort of melee. He or she is the problem, not you.

But man...I hear you. Sometimes it's REALLY tempting to put them in their place, especially if you've got the PERFECT comeback. I promise you, though...sleep on it and you'll be glad you kept your cool.

You know, I think there's even more to this subject of being a cool guy vis-à-vis interacting with others who aren't yet so advanced at keeping their own cool.

I actually once knew a guy who to this day I think of as one of the coolest guys I've ever met.

Amazingly, whenever someone around him said something bad about someone else, spoke in a coarse manner, started complaining about something and/or said anything else blatantly negative he'd do something incredibly powerful.

He'd look at the person briefly, pause about a full second, and
then casually change the subject.

It was abundantly clear that he would not partake in that which he didn't condone, but handled the situation as a natural leader would...all without disrespecting anyone.

The subtle message--that quiet exhortation to everyone around to "raise the bar" in the coolness department--was always received loud and clear, if silently.

That was an amazing example he set that I never forgot.

The only caveat I'd offer here is that if your manhood or personal integrity is being called out by another guy you're going to have to man up and stand up for yourself.

The best way to do this, of course, is by making a reasonable
verbal appeal to the guy that what he's saying is inappropriate and that it needs to stop.

Among friends or business associates I would presume that to be enough.

Indeed, even when you're interacting with a stranger you'll be
surprised how often being reasonably direct quenches the potential altercation.

If you're dealing with an unreasonable individual, though, you
won't be able to reason with him. That follows common logic.

At that point you've got to decide whether to walk away or risk the conversation degenerating into fisticuffs.

Note that I'm not going to publicly advocate getting into fights.You, however, can base your personal decision regarding how to proceed in such situations on how idiotic the other guy is already causing himself to look and/or what the legal ramifications of the altercation would be.

By the way, if a woman ever insults you publicly no real man is going to second guess your decision not to glorify her remarks in any way, shape or form. You have nothing to prove to her or to others around you in that situation. Remove yourself.

Every man--including you and I--encounters questions like the one we covered today. It's true.

And when they come up, we'll either face them boldly...or stick our heads in the sand.

Obviously, the latter isn't very attractive to anyone--be they
employers, teammates or ESPECIALLY women.

Knowing where you stand and how to defend your position when need be is important.

And it's JUST as important to know how to make others around you look cool, thereby coming off as a cooler guy yourself.

Being a man of integrity, knowing how to make decisions and having the ability to communicate effectively are also integral to being a REAL MAN.

You also have to be PASSIONATE about what's important to you, to the degree that you're motivated to make a difference with your life and have the ambition to do so.

It can all start to sound rather overwhelming, can't it?

Well it doesn't have to be.

You were actually BORN to be that guy. In fact, EVERY MAN is born with that innate design.

Yet, somewhere along the way "modern culture" has caused us to lose sight of what it means to be a man at times, hasn't it?

Well, you can forget any message that encourages you to
"marginalize" your manhood. Instead, get your hands on the
ultimate roadmap to recharging your identity as a real man............................................... ..................................

I'll be back again soon with another letter from a reader. We'll
cover the all-important question of what to do when you feel
OVERWHELMED on your journey from where you are today to where you want to be with women.

Don't touch that dial.

Be Good,

Your Guru

warbird

16-11-2010, 07:39 AM

Bro Warbird, I guess each has their preference :)

I need to learn to be more hard hearted, especially when the r/s becomes sticky. So still in a learning mode to be soft/hard/soft (pun intended), hahaha...........................
I also learn from your earlier posts here that to be unannounced when turn up at the BY place, and I'll just say "我有空就来“， even though earlier I've already said I cannot make it. Like you shared and I paraphrase here and sorry if I got it wrong, a mind that controls both purse, mind and pussy will be powerful.

Hi bro jamezwit,

Missed ur post earlier.

I may be a predator while hunting pretty SYTs, but often turn "soft-hearted" if the pussies r too tasty. That is my serious flaw.

I dun think I said that. I did say, in BY-ing, if a man can't control his heart n ego, he is in big trouble.

Cheers!

Bro WB

AAdam

16-11-2010, 09:05 AM

jamezwit

18-11-2010, 01:44 PM

Thank you to all Bros who up my points. My posting is slow because I still new and my post gets moderated.

One of my BY gave me a fright before, when she randomly pick a rental place that is next block to mine. Postive thing is convenience, when need to release stress, it's right next block, but think of the embarassment if she runs into me downstairs and call out to me or worse sticky sticky hold hand. Die on the spot if seen by neighbour or family. I quickly told her to reject that flat saying random reason that I know the area and it's not safe etc.

DO_YOU_BJ

18-11-2010, 09:51 PM

If you have a BY, why u let her pick where to stay?
Shouldnt you just get her a place and say like.....NAH....U STAY HERE!
Guess you must be a ladies man.....u not in control dude!!!!!!!
Bad....BAD!

MillerV

19-11-2010, 02:05 AM

HOW COOL GUYS RESPOND TO UNCOOL PEOPLE
Just like we talk about in our audio on the subject
, the truly cool guy indeed thrives on helping others around him look and feel cooler.

Think about it. Have you ever observed someone who is actively trying to make someone else look bad and thought to yourself what a cool guy he is? Of course not.
I actually once knew a guy who to this day I think of as one of the coolest guys I've ever met.

Amazingly, whenever someone around him said something bad about someone else, spoke in a coarse manner, started complaining about something and/or said anything else blatantly negative he'd do something incredibly powerful.

Don't touch that dial.

Be Good,

Your Guru[/SIZE]

Great Post!!
Be Cool! Be a MAN, Do the RIGHT thing!!!
=) I like this post

jamezwit

19-11-2010, 01:44 PM

If you have a BY, why u let her pick where to stay?
Shouldnt you just get her a place and say like.....NAH....U STAY HERE!
Guess you must be a ladies man.....u not in control dude!!!!!!!
Bad....BAD!

This one a bit different, I only need to pay partial of her rent because she works as an executive in a listed company. And trying to arrange and get master room is a lot of work and I no time and not really alot of money (at that time, got another BY that I support). :-)

DO_YOU_BJ

19-11-2010, 03:05 PM

This one a bit different, I only need to pay partial of her rent because she works as an executive in a listed company.
Ah, i see

And trying to arrange and get master room is a lot of work and I no time
That's why there are agents to do the legwork

and not really alot of money (at that time, got another BY that I support). :-)
So based on this, mean you loaded now liao la...eh bro, can pass some over to a poor poor man to spend?????

warbird

20-11-2010, 10:21 AM

Thanks for the information...

Apparently, it seems like all these baoing belongs to those people who have the financial power to have a go. It will be a tall order for normal working folks to participate in this game.

out of curiousity, how much does it cost to be in this game in Singapore & China?

The prerequisite for BY-ing is moolah.

The cost varies widely in Sin n China. I should leave this for more experienced bros to answer as my personal experiences may not be typical.

Personally, in SIN, I hv been paying SGD 8-12k a month plus rent, etc. for full-time BY-ing n 4-6K if they continue to run KTVs. For exceptional cases, I hv paid much more...

In China, the same type of gals will require RMB15-25K in SZ, 10-15K in Wuhan n 5-10K in a small town for full-time BY-ing.

A pretty 17 yo in 秦皇岛（some place in Hebei）demands RMB10k a month only. She wont come to SIN ( when she turns 18 in 2 months) for 5X more plus expenses.:(

...............................
One of my BY gave me a fright before, when she randomly pick a rental place that is next block to mine. Postive thing is convenience, when need to release stress, it's right next block, but think of the embarassment if she runs into me downstairs and call out to me or worse sticky sticky hold hand. Die on the spot if seen by neighbour or family. I quickly told her to reject that flat saying random reason that I know the area and it's not safe etc.
If you have a BY, why u let her pick where to stay?
Shouldnt you just get her a place and say like.....NAH....U STAY HERE!
Guess you must be a ladies man.....u not in control dude!!!!!!!
Bad....BAD!

Our chairman is always right.

We men must hv control n power in the RS.

Piss them off n they will beg for more. Suck up to them n we lose everything.

Great Post!!
Be Cool! Be a MAN, Do the RIGHT thing!!!
=) I like this post

Nothing is more attractive to a woman than a man who is always cool n in control.

This one a bit different, I only need to pay partial of her rent because she works as an executive in a listed company. And trying to arrange and get master room is a lot of work and I no time and not really alot of money (at that time, got another BY that I support).

Hi bro jamezwit,

OK, understood.

Ah, i see

That's why there are agents to do the legwork

So based on this, mean you loaded now liao la...eh bro, can pass some over to a poor poor man to spend?????

Hi Mr. Chairman,

Haha...no no no, he should pass some to me first as I need it more urgently!!!

Cheers!

Bro WB

jamezwit

20-11-2010, 07:09 PM

The prerequisite for BY-ing is moolah.

The cost varies widely in Sin n China. I should leave this for more experienced bros to answer as my personal experiences may not be typical.

Personally, in SIN, I hv been paying SGD 8-12k a month plus rent, etc. for full-time BY-ing n 4-6K if they continue to run KTVs. For exceptional cases, I hv paid much more...

In China, the same type of gals will require RMB15-25K in SZ, 10-15K in Wuhan n 5-10K in a small town for full-time BY-ing.

A pretty 17 yo in 秦皇岛（some place in Hebei）demands RMB10k a month only. She wont come to SIN ( when she turns 18 in 2 months) for 5X more plus expenses.:(

Bro WB

My experience is different, which I put it down to the type of girl. Mine are all students (not those using student pass to work at KTV or WL) or real working professional (one of the PRC girl here as childcare teacher, as I checked her out at her workplace) and one as an executive in a factory (I picked her up at het workplace a few times). They are lonely, most times are betrayed by BF back home or just want a BF that can show a bit (or a lot, up to you lah) of understanding and treat them nice. So mine range from 800 (only to offset rent) to 2k (my limit).

warbird

21-11-2010, 11:32 AM

My experience is different, which I put it down to the type of girl. Mine are all students (not those using student pass to work at KTV or WL) or real working professional (one of the PRC girl here as childcare teacher, as I checked her out at her workplace) and one as an executive in a factory (I picked her up at het workplace a few times). They are lonely, most times are betrayed by BF back home or just want a BF that can show a bit (or a lot, up to you lah) of understanding and treat them nice. So mine range from 800 (only to offset rent) to 2k (my limit).

Hi bro jamezwit,

You r truly a master for getting the gals u want at low expenses. You must be very romantic, charming n hv excellent self control.

I did hv a brief RS w/ a Presidential Scholar at NUS, a 19 yo PRC gal (see my posts in late Dec 2009) who only wanted 4K a month (I think she would hv accepted 3K a month). She had to study hard n I could meet her only twice a wk. My main concern was that her pussy might not be exclusive to me.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

There is a 26 PRC virgin (?) in SIN who is a non-WL OL who is looking for a BF to take care of her. She is a very decent n nice gal. What she wants is relatively modest. She is interested in having the right feelings n rapport n money is of secondary importance. She is a good fren n former roommate of my GF GG. Any interested bros may PM me.

A good fren, a very experienced playboy, once told me abt kissing when I was still wet behind my ears. "If a Chinese gal willingly allows you to french her, her pussy is yours ( at least 99% true ), but not so w/ Ang Mo gals..."

Decades later, I can confirm that he is spot on n his axiom holds true for KTV gals n non-WLs alike.

Sometimes there is a long lag time between kissing a gal n tasting her pussy. The longest is w/ the SH songbird SS aka CD. It took 5 months.

Another sex guru sent me some interesting advice on KISSING. I like share it w/ bros here.

SIX GOLDEN MOMENTS WHEN YOU'D BETTER KISS HER

You've probably been conditioned your entire life to aim for that
all-important first kiss with a woman when you've walked her to her
doorstep at the end of an evening together.

Forget that. Why save it for the very last?

Besides missing out on all the potential excitement that could have
happened earlier in the night, you end up looking like every other
unimaginative dork she's dated since middle school.

That said, I fully get that making the first kiss happen at exactly
the right time seems as if it's easier said than done.

But no worries. I've got your back, as always.

Here are a half-dozen moments that are tailor made first kiss
opportunities just about every time:

1) When She's Talking Nonstop

This goes double if she's mildly perturbed over something. Perhaps
she has started to go on about her bad day at work, her mean
professor and/or an evil co-worker.

But even if she's just turning a bit too much into a "Chatty Cathy"
in general, here's a universal truth that every man should know.

You already know that the best way to shut up a group of noisy guys
is to put food in front of them. But if you want to shut a woman
up, kiss her.

And don't be surprised afterward if she forgets what she was
talking about.

The caveat here, of course, is that we're assuming her excessive
chatter hasn't negatively affected her attractiveness to you...which
I understand could be a distinct possibility.

2) When You Are Opening The Car Door For Her

A lot of people want to pronounce chivalry dead at the scene.

But as I've said in The Man's Approach program, if you don't bother
to open the car door for a woman you're missing out on one MASSIVE
opportunity to get the first kiss out of the way.

I mean, where else can you literally corner a woman and actually
have her feel safer, warmer and fuzzier as a direct result?

This is money, I tell you.

3) When There's Even The Briefest Of Pauses After You Lock Eyes At
Close Range

The tragic part about this particular phenomenon is that EVERYONE
recognizes when it's happening.

But the problem is that far too many of us come down with a sudden
outbreak of "Too Good To Be True Fever" when it happens FOR US.

Learn from the movies, gentlemen.

Admit it. Every time you've ever seen a guy bonk at this point in
a movie, you knew he was blowing it. And the guy who gets the girl
in that same movie NEVER misses the cue, does he?

So when you're talking to a woman--or are even just generically
present with her, frankly--and you find yourself a foot away from
her staring into her eyes wordlessly as if the world were standing
still...it is.

And the world is standing there screaming, "KISS HER NOW!"

4) When Plans Change Or Certain Interruptions Take Place

Okay, this one's a bit trickier.

What we're referring to here is NOT when a major crisis hits or
when you've got to act fast to correct something that's a pressing
concern.

We're also NOT referring to when her babysitter calls telling her
to "come home immediately" or when she flakes out on you. Of
course not.

What we ARE talking about is when you're given the GOLDEN
opportunity to take a slight glitch in your perfect plan and boldly
show that your overall demeanor and personal control over the whole
situation are NOT affected by it.

The Notebook is not on most guys' list of favorite movies, but
there's a certain scene in it where the guy and the gal are in a
rowboat together surrounded by swans.

The "storybook" moment is rudely interrupted by a sudden torrential
rainstorm.

As the woman starts fretting about the situation, the guy does the
right thing. He grabs her and kisses her brains out, turning the
whole melee into the hottest five minutes either of them has ever
experienced.

Nice going, there.

Your version might not be as dramatic.

Nevertheless, that locked door to a restaurant you thought was
still open or even changing a flat tire in a tux probably should
lead to a first kiss...provided you're a Big Four man with a woman
along who is attracted to you.

5) Whenever She Expresses Slight Embarrassment Or Good-Natured
Regret At Having Said Something Silly

Ah yes...I love this one.

If a woman is concerned over having embarrassed herself a tiny bit
in your presence or thinks she just said something silly, that's a
universal sign that she's digging you.

What better way to reassure her when she's experiencing such worry
than to remove all doubt that she hasn't messed up nearly as badly
as she thinks?

Kiss her, already. Make it all better.

6) Whenever You Instinctively Sense That She's Expecting It

This one is along the lines of the third point above, but more
generally applicable.

ANY time you get the unmistakable vibe that she WANTS to be kissed,
you not only SHOULD kiss her you'd BETTER kiss her.

I mean, how many hints does a chick have to drop, dude? Start
getting them. Otherwise, she's going to think you're either gay or
a total wimp.

The bottom line here is that most women LOVE to be kissed and they
WANT to be kissed by a man they like.

When you are on a first date with a woman and she appears to be
enjoying herself, you could probably kiss her without much drama
and with great success.

If you're on a second date with her, you can consider that a
foregone conclusion. She wouldn't BE THERE if she wasn't feeling
attraction.

Knowing that, remember the six golden moments I've described for
you today and you'll never be at a loss for gauging the RIGHT TIME
for that first kiss to happen ever again.

Be Good,

Mr. XYZ

chenzong

21-11-2010, 05:47 PM

Wow, this thread is still going strong, and so is Bro WB!

MoralEpitome

21-11-2010, 09:17 PM

Yes....great source of inspiration....

hock19

21-11-2010, 11:50 PM

I have been reading through this thread and there are two areas that I would like to make some comments, coming from my experience.

It appears that to bao a SYT, it seems that a vast amount of money is involved. Say 8k plus as per what one of the bros mentioned. And on top of that you need to be at the top of the "manhood" chain to claim that woman. I believe this is due to you wanting a pretty and nice SYT which other guys are after. I have been also been involved with gals from china, but I prefer older than SYT. Maybe early 30s. Some of those, I have had a very good relationship for the past year. When she is in sin, we go for a bonk, say once a week, and she does not go with others. We don't even go shopping, but if she needs money, say to extent passport, or whatever, I help contribute. I don't pay all! Just to tell them that they too need to earn their keep. When she is in china, I go there for a couple of days and we spend the days in the room, cuddling up, except for lunch and dinner where we go out. So, in general, when in Singapore, in the average, it is below $1k per month. I tell them that I cannot afford a lot of money and actually tell them that if they want money, then they can go find a rich guy. But I treat them as a person and a woman, and when I ask them why they like me, they say, that I treat them well. This then goes to the next topic which I read in this thread and that is how to threat them in bed.

I always make them enjoy and cum, and I do not necessary need to cum to enjoy myself. So I can last a couple of hours and in china when I am with them, I must ensure that I come say when I am ready to sleep then I cum, and then rest till the next morning. I think one should thread them like a woman. Like in bed, going to sleep, you would fall asleep in each others arms.

So maybe, giving them good sex is something to get them to like or remember you to the extent that they would enjoy your company, and not have cash coming in the way. Off course, I am fair to them as well, and will give them an equivalent or more than what I wouldmgive them, say on a per bonk basis.

Although, most bros would say that money is foremost in their minds when they come to sin, It might be that I am naive, but I always hope that the girls that I wish to know would like me not just from the money point of view. I guess sometimes, it works and sometimes no!!

So in conclusion, maybe how much money you give the girls depends on your relationship with them, and giving them good sex also helps!

And btw, this MILF which I mention that I don't give too much money is really a looker, and not your average street walker. There was one afternoon, after a bonk in a hotel, and when she was walking to my car, she was walking 100m in front of me. A guy in a BMW or was it an AUDI, came and followed her and then asked if she needed a lift to anywhere. When she told me that, it really made my day.

Dragonkeep

22-11-2010, 02:28 AM

It appears that to bao a SYT, a vast amount of money is involved. Say 8k plus as per what one of the bros mentioned. And on top of that you need to be at the top of the "manhood" chain to claim that woman. I believe this is due to you wanting a pretty and nice SYT which other guys are after. I have been also been involved with gals from china, but I prefer older than SYT. Maybe early 30s. Some of those, I have had a very good relationship for the past year. When she is in sin, we go for a bonk, say once a week, and she does not go with others. We don't even go shopping, but if she needs money, say to extent passport, or whatever, I help contribute. I don't pay all!

I always make them enjoy and cum, and I do not necessary need to cum to enjoy myself. So I can last a couple of hours and in china when I am with them, I must ensure that I come say when I am ready to sleep then I cum, and then rest till the next morning. I think one should thread them like a woman. Like in bed, going to sleep, you would fall asleep in each others arms.

And btw, this MILF which I mention that I don't give too much money is really a looker, and not your average street walker. There was one afternoon, after a bonk in a hotel, and when she was walking to my car, she was walking 100m in front of me. A guy in a BMW or was it an AUDI, came and followed her and then asked if she needed a lift to anywhere. When she told me that, it really made my day.

Great sharing and personally helpfully self-validating. I think your notes gel with something I have been wondering about too - that the $$$ support factor seems very much tied to the age factor for the gal. There's clearly IMHO a sort of market at work out there.

I have a very sweet MILF (Goat year) working at TAM on my reserve bonk list -a very nice and warm gal from Hunan with an amazing smile and great set of teeth (done commercials before with them). Helped her move house, find a new place, pay say a month rent at PPC for a solo room etc. I can agree my experience mirrors the points you make - I hardly pay anything much else for the bonks we've had compared to what the SYTs demand. The GFE with my MILF is also so high sometimes I get guilty with all that splurging on SYTs!! This brings to mind my first long term local Singapore FB (an ex-SQ gal MILF) -that was really a pure bonking relationship for 7 years. All for free except for the occasional meal treat. The other plus factor for the MILFs I've known is their maturity and general capacity for TLC. They have seen it all by then I guess and realise the competition out there. I sometimes have to crack the whip with SYTs to get them down to earth - although I must admit when they flash those sexy youthful looks to get their way ... sheesh, sometimes the iron will cracks :o

I am sure your MILF is a great looker (from the BMW story you have) - and if your experience gels on this point too, a number of the very young (say under 24) tend to be kinda stiff and less adventurous in bed. In other words, I have found the sex quality to be much much better with the older ones. I have had no issue doing all kindsa kama sutra with my mid-late 20s onwards types. Like you, our bonkings in China are also pretty much all-day / night affairs and I settle for a cum before sleep pattern after the first day (where shooting 2 loads after such a long absence has been the SOP for a while!!).

MillerV

22-11-2010, 02:33 AM

Hi bro jamezwit,

Knowing that, remember the six golden moments I've described for
you today and you'll never be at a loss for gauging the RIGHT TIME
for that first kiss to happen ever again.

Be Good,
Mr. XYZ
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Mr XYZ is GOOD!
Glad i read the whole posting!!
Thanks WB

DO_YOU_BJ

22-11-2010, 02:34 AM

Get a SYT, be ready to service
Get a MILF, be ready to be SERVICED!!!
Same tot bro

warbird

22-11-2010, 10:43 AM

Wow, this thread is still going strong, and so is Bro WB!

Hi bro chenzhong,

Long time no see. Will u come back in Dec?

Yes....great source of inspiration....

Hi bro ME,

I hv read ur posts in many other threads.

You r a master of leverage! You're getting great returns n all the fun w/ very modest investments.

I have been reading through this thread and there are two areas that I would like to make some comments, coming from my experience.

It appears that to bao a SYT, it seems that a vast amount of money is involved. Say 8k plus as per what one of the bros mentioned. And on top of that you need to be at the top of the "manhood" chain to claim that woman. I believe this is due to you wanting a pretty and nice SYT which other guys are after. I have been also been involved with gals from china, but I prefer older than SYT. Maybe early 30s. Some of those, I have had a very good relationship for the past year......................

So maybe, giving them good sex is something to get them to like or remember you to the extent that they would enjoy your company, and not have cash coming in the way. Off course, I am fair to them as well, and will give them an equivalent or more than what I wouldmgive them, say on a per bonk basis.
.................................................. .................................................. .....

So in conclusion, maybe how much money you give the girls depends on your relationship with them, and giving them good sex also helps!

And btw, this MILF which I mention that I don't give too much money is really a looker, and not your average street walker.............

Great sharing and personally helpfully self-validating. I think your notes gel with something I have been wondering about too - that the $$$ support factor seems very much tied to the age factor for the gal. There's clearly IMHO a sort of market at work out there.

I have a very sweet MILF (Goat year) working at TAM on my reserve bonk list -.................................I sometimes have to crack the whip with SYTs to get them down to earth - although I must admit when they flash those sexy youthful looks to get their way ... sheesh, sometimes the iron will cracks :o

I am sure your MILF is a great looker (from the BMW story you have) - and if your experience gels on this point too, a number of the very young (say under 24) tend to be kinda stiff and less adventurous in bed. In other words, I have found the sex quality to be much much better with the older ones.....

Hi broshock19 n Dragonkeep,

Ths so much to both of u for sharing ur sexploits n insights. Both of u appear to enjoy RS w/ MILFs...

Unfortunately, I prefer SYTs n those chio gals <25. They must hv a certain looks that I find attractive. In addition, they also must hv my preferred body proportions. I can't help it.

However, one of my best fxks is w/ a 27 yo MILF from Hubei, which I detailed recently. She serviced me very well n had COS herself n even squirted. Sadly she is still in China...

Yes, giving regular COS to a gal is vital, but by itself is often not enuff to get a gal addicted to or fall in love w/ a man. Other psychological triggers n conditioning r necessary. Ironically, a financial arrangement may be an impediment.

You see, a gal falls in love w/ a man NOT for who he is, but for how he makes her feel (especially abt herself). In a BY-ing RS, no self-respecting gal will feel good, especially if the RS is relatively short-term. So it will take more time n effort in BY-ing for a BAO-ee to fall for a BAO-er. That is a fun game, isn't?

Indeed, we men pay a lot more for exclusivity n for the oppty to KC these gals. Whether it's cost effective depends on each individual. For me, it's worth every penny n then some. Why? I'm hving all the fun while learning a lot abt life, abt oneself n abt others, etc...in the interim, I hv discovered the meaning n importance of self mastery n unconditional happiness. I'm greatly indebted to all my current n former mistresses for making my transformation possible, hehehe.:p Oops, I should also mention all my frens/bros who hv also played a vital role in my formative months (not years yet).

Just my 2 cents, experienced n esteemed bros r invited to comment on n/or refute my hypothesises.

Cheers!

Mr XYZ is GOOD!
Glad i read the whole posting!!
Thanks WB

Yes, Mr. XYZ is quite a guru.

Get a SYT, be ready to service
Get a MILF, be ready to be SERVICED!!!
Same tot bro

Mr. Chairman,

Yes, ur statement is very true. But most SYTs in a BY-ing RS r more than willing to learn or else they hit the road...hahaha.

Ths for ur call the other day. It's always a pleasure to receive a call form the Chairman himself.

As I mentioned, I'll be meeting a PRC gal in an Indonesian island. No KC. I just crave her youthful yet voluptuous body...

Her student visa was rejected n she is coming to SIN on a singer permit. I'll support her only if it's the non-working type.

Cheers!

Bro WB

hock19

22-11-2010, 11:20 AM

I am sure your MILF is a great looker (from the BMW story you have) - and if your experience gels on this point too, a number of the very young (say under 24) tend to be kinda stiff and less adventurous in bed. In other words, I have found the sex quality to be much much better with the older ones. I have had no issue doing all kindsa kama sutra with my mid-late 20s onwards types. Like you, our bonkings in China are also pretty much all-day / night affairs and I settle for a cum before sleep pattern after the first day (where shooting 2 loads after such a long absence has been the SOP for a while!!).

Totally agreed. The younger ones might be better looking but to me, it is on the surface. MILFs tend to be more "understanding" in the relationship and there is much more GFe feelings between me and them, which translates more into sex and passion which is what bro Dragonkeep mentions . And they seem to also be more appreciative if you treat them well.

But after saying that, sometimes, a good bonk with a young pretty girl is good for the system and ego, but I doubt if I would bao a younger girl for the above reason.

But generally, I prefer older, say 26+ or even 30+ as maybe I am an old cock!!

ha ha

jamezwit

22-11-2010, 12:37 PM

Hi bro jamezwit,

You r truly a master for getting the gals u want at low expenses. You must be very romantic, charming n hv excellent self control.

I'm average in everyway, in fact "slightly" overweight haha. I just learning from failures and successes (first few BYs). Human being, unfortunately and fortunately, are not like plants where a bit of attention and nourishments will do great, but it's the outcome of randomness that we enjoy the varieties? ;-)

Now, I practice a bit of self confidence when we actually want to know the BY whereabouts and activities especially since they are student or executive with day job. But I leave hints/questions here and there (how r u today? still dosing off at that particular lecturer? your boss still making advances at you? How's your headache? etc) but no directive to say they must update me. They know they are BY, but a bit negative if told to report their every move, so hinting works for me so far, and they know if they don't keep us happy, there goes the purse string (even though however little $ it is in my cases) and the hints also works double as showing concern ;-)

I did hv a brief RS w/ a Presidential Scholar at NUS, a 19 yo PRC gal (see my posts in late Dec 2009) who only wanted 4K a month (I think she would hv accepted 3K a month). She had to study hard n I could meet her only twice a wk. My main concern was that her pussy might not be exclusive to me.

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If only can see twice a week, I see your concern. If it's up to you to determine any two nights without prior arrangements, still a bit troublesome.

And good sharing on the kissing thing. It works for me in a cinema 20mins into the show on second date, after that can't keep our mouths away from each other too long and hands also go everywhere during the show.

jasdude

22-11-2010, 01:09 PM

Get a SYT, be ready to service
Get a MILF, be ready to be SERVICED!!!

cannot agree more . education of the young is important . so when they turn milf they know how to return the favour .:D

Dragonkeep

22-11-2010, 06:50 PM

This one a bit different, I only need to pay partial of her rent because she works as an executive in a listed company. And trying to arrange and get master room is a lot of work and I no time and not really alot of money (at that time, got another BY that I support). :-)

Wah you lucky man.

Anyhow, just to share with the brudders who need housing for a little lovenest for your bao-yee, try www.sg-house.com enter the rooms for rent forum and "search this forum" under the search engine (just like sammyboy) for whichever district e.g. Chinatown, Tiong Bahru and a whole bunch of common rooms, master rooms etc will be readily locatable.

Used this site to find lodging for a couple of mei mei. Quite sextisfying especially when I celebrated a new pad-warming with one of them in the nude, complete with mattress stress test. Heh heh.

The agents that post on that site - some are sticky about the PRC gers immigration status. Some "understanding types" will know exactly what is needed. No questions asked beyond the basic valid immigration status like work pass or student passes. When I was shopping for master rooms though the agents/ owners were officially talking about 1 year leases generally, the actual contracts had a 3 mth minimum stay clause so if you wanna bao for a quarter and then re-boot the deal after getting tired of the deal 3 mths later, such arrangements are ideal since the deposit is refundable after a min. 3 month stay (even though the agreement is theoretically for 1 year).

Dragonkeep

22-11-2010, 07:09 PM

The prerequisite for BY-ing is moolah.

The cost varies widely in Sin n China. I should leave this for more experienced bros to answer as my personal experiences may not be typical.

Personally, in SIN, I hv been paying SGD 8-12k a month plus rent, etc. for full-time BY-ing n 4-6K if they continue to run KTVs. For exceptional cases, I hv paid much more...

In China, the same type of gals will require RMB15-25K in SZ, 10-15K in Wuhan n 5-10K in a small town for full-time BY-ing.

Bro WB

Grandmaster WB is quite right. Thi$ i$ a $omewhat co$tly game unfortunately.

My current local budget is 10k for full BY for a 1.68m slim SYT with a nice gua-shaped face n sharp features that I like so much - managed to nego rent within. Learning from Bro hock19: mebbe one day I will self impose fiscal restraint n austerity and slow down with a current trio of low expectation gers from 25+ in rotation ... breaking in SYTs require patience and lately have been a little short on that ...

The long term RS deposit baoyee in China is getting by with RMB 15-20k in FZ plus the odd contrib to her dad's medical, gifts etc, but she's in a pad I paid for there. Very fond of that one - literally non-stop action with her. She never packs pyjamas when with me wherever in China :D

besafe

22-11-2010, 08:44 PM

Game ?
No lah... its an expensive ego trip.

hock19

22-11-2010, 09:00 PM

The problem with me is that even though I bao someone, I tend to also look around to bonk others. Too much bonking the same gal is boring.(no punt intended). So then you pay $x amount of money to bao someone, and then you spend extra to bonk others. So in the long term, not good returns to pay alot to bao a single girl unless you have unlimited supply of dollars.

Because i might be emotionally attached to the girl which i bao, this also complicates issues with the girl which I would like to have none off.

So the best thing is try not to really bao but still have a good relationship. End game is to try to get a good balance.

MoralEpitome

22-11-2010, 09:41 PM

Hmmm for me because I guess I am still relatively young at 32 although I look old and haggard due to the stressful nature of my work, I will not engaged in FT BY...the other reason is that I feel very guilty to my OC if I have a full time BY although as Chairman Austin knows, we are not officially married yet but we have a condo in joint names which we plan to shift in when we both feel ready...and despite our problems at times and my fickle nature, I still think that we been though alot together I would not break up with her....if I were to BY a girl it would mean that I must like her very much and it will definitely affect my r/s with OC...thoughout my cheonging life I have never fell in love with any of these ladies except one.....during that few months it was really a torture to act like nothing had happened and it somehow affected the relationship.... only strong characters like Chairman and Young Lion and some of the esteemed brudders here can segregate the attachment to the OC and having multiples BYs at the same time... I am unable to do so as I am a sentimental and emotional person ...last of all as I am probably not as rich...I find that wasting 6 to 10k a month on such things is not worth it....personally I rather invest this money into equities and grow this money to a tidy sum so I can have an early retirement....so now I stick to value for money ST although the thrill is not as great as a KC fuck...I hope I can maintain this discipline in women as well as in work life and money....hehehe

chenzong

23-11-2010, 03:46 PM

Hi bro chenzhong,

Long time no see. Will u come back in Dec?

Quite unlikely, Bro WB. I have just changed jobs and will not want to take leave so quickly. Perhaps next year's Christmas holidays, I'd be there. We can go for a drink then!

DO_YOU_BJ

23-11-2010, 05:27 PM

Quite unlikely, Bro WB. I have just changed jobs and will not want to take leave so quickly. Perhaps next year's Christmas holidays, I'd be there. We can go for a drink then!

Wow, you migrate liao ah?
Spreading your love & seeds in the glory of sillypore?

warbird

24-11-2010, 02:19 PM

I'm average in everyway, in fact "slightly" overweight haha. I just learning from failures and successes (first few BYs). Human being, unfortunately and fortunately, are not like plants where a bit of attention and nourishments will do great, but it's the outcome of randomness that we enjoy the varieties? ;-)

Now, I practice a bit of self confidence when we actually want to know the BY whereabouts and activities................................

If only can see twice a week, I see your concern. If it's up to you to determine any two nights without prior arrangements, still a bit troublesome.

And good sharing on the kissing thing. It works for me in a cinema 20mins into the show on second date, after that can't keep our mouths away from each other too long and hands also go everywhere during the show.

Hi bro jamezwit,

Ths for ur feed back n sharing.

Yes, last time i onz SYT, so lack of svc
Then i onz milf, just lay back n be a king
The things they are willing to do with you and allow you to do, sometimes even better than prostitutes man
SEXTISFACTION guaranteed!

Hi Bro ObamaRocks,

May I address u as Vice Chairman?

..WB is quite right. Thi$ i$ a $omewhat co$tly game unfortunately.

My current local budget is 10k for full BY for a 1.68m slim SYT with a nice gua-shaped face n sharp features that I like so much - managed to nego rent within. Learning from Bro hock19: mebbe one day I will self impose fiscal restraint n austerity and slow down with a current trio of low expectation gers from 25+ in rotation ... breaking in SYTs require patience and lately have been a little short on that ...

The long term RS deposit baoyee in China is getting by with RMB 15-20k in FZ plus the odd contrib to her dad's medical, gifts etc, but she's in a pad I paid for there.....

Hi bro Dragonkeep,

Ths for sharing.

The problem with me is that even though I bao someone, I tend to also look around to bonk others. Too much bonking the same gal is boring.(no punt intended). So then you pay $x amount of money to bao someone, and then you spend extra to bonk others. So in the long term, not good returns to pay alot to bao a single girl unless you have unlimited supply of dollars.

Because i might be emotionally attached to the girl which i bao, this also complicates issues with the girl which I would like to have none off.
.......................

Hi bro hock19,

You r right.

For me, one full-time n one part-time SYT r be more than I can handle.

Quite unlikely, Bro WB. I have just changed jobs and will not want to take leave so quickly. Perhaps next year's Christmas holidays, I'd be there. We can go for a drink then!

Hi bro chenzong,

Will c u next yr.

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Good Afternoon!

Will go to the Indonesian island B close to SIN to meet someone soon. This PRC gal, who is currently in Jakarta, mistakenly booked ticket for Bali! Luckily I discovered her mistake n made her change her flight.

Separately, I met two SYTs, one tall n one short, at LV last Fri. I'll talk abt the tall Fujian one later. The short one is a 22 yo Dongbei gal who is 160 n 43kg w/ small everything. She looks younger. She is the cute n jovial type. Looking at her innocent face, I had no heart to ask her to be a mistress or er nai, so I told her to become my GF. I further said that I was currently unemployed. She said she would consider. She did not reply to my sms over the wkend. In the meantime, I'm progressing nicely w/ the tall gal.

Then she called me yesterday n said she very much want to be my GF n she only wanted 3k a month, but she would need to work. She has not n will never go out n I may confirm that w/ the mummies. Why so inexpensive?

She actually called me as I'm writing this post. I'll meet w/ her later.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

24-11-2010, 04:20 PM

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Good Afternoon!

Will go to the Indonesian island B close to SIN to meet someone soon. This PRC gal, who is currently in Jakarta, mistakenly booked ticket for Bali! Luckily I discovered her mistake n made her change her flight.

Separately, I met two SYTs, one tall n one short, at LV last Fri. I'll talk abt the tall Fujian one later. The short one is a 22 yo Dongbei gal who is 160 n 43kg w/ small everything. She looks younger. She is the cute n jovial type. Looking at her innocent face, I had no heart to ask her to be a mistress or er nai, so I told her to become my GF. I further said that I was currently unemployed. She said she would consider. She did not reply to my sms over the wkend. In the meantime, I'm progressing nicely w/ the tall gal.

Then she called me yesterday n said she very much want to be my GF n she only wanted 3k a month, but she would need to work. She has not n will never go out n I may confirm that w/ the mummies. Why so inexpensive?

She actually called me as I'm writing this post. I'll meet w/ her later.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Good move Bro WB....never show your cards upfront....tell her you are unemployed so she quote you lower...maybe her idea of gf is less commitment and bonking so can accept lower price....

MillerV

24-11-2010, 05:29 PM

Good move le ... unemployed .. well done!!!
3k not bad le ... like paying a PA like that :) but can do more things!

MoralEpitome

24-11-2010, 09:35 PM

Please do not as i am no where near the league of your famed chairman austin. You can call me Obama in short

Yes Sir, Mr President!

Hooters666

24-11-2010, 11:02 PM

hock19 and dragonkeep,

I too belong to the category of preferring slightly matured girls i.e. 25-35 age range. I feel that girls at this age group are more worldly (means too street smart), can engage in meaningful conversation (instead of Wo Xiang Ni or Ni Zai Kan Ma?), most importantly more passionate and open minded in the bed. Drawing inspiration from your stories I recently contacted my gf (not baoee) in Shenzhen since we were last contact or last fuck in 2009. I knew her in 2007 when I was based in HK and had a great time with her and many wonderful lusty "business trip" cross the border. Expense wise it wasn't huge but she gave me ultimate GFE. She is 32 now but I still long for her from time to time. So I contacted her and instead of getting a earful from her for leaving HK abruptly (i did not say a proper good bye, bestow a departure ang pow or did a farewell fuck) she was so happy to hear from me. Then on the same night we did MSN video and it was so surreal to see her on screen as you can imagine. The interesting part is that she is a mother of a 4mth old now and hence a real MILF. Before you guys start saying the kid mine I am positively sure its not mine..heheh...Anyway she claimed that she got the baby from buying sperm and did IVF..Not too sure I can believe it but I did not question that as she tried to bear me a kid and I evaded upteem times. So cut the long story short, she is a yummy mummy now with fuller figure and titties. And I am making my way to Shenzhen in the coming weeks especially when she confess she missed my pecker dearly.:D

On a seperate note, the sticky Hunan chick has not contacted for 2 weeks but I have missed calls on my phone with unknown number. Both my small and big head is hoping its her as I kind of missed fuckin her and her melons although at that time I was scare about her stickiness. So I told myself if she ever SMS me I will fly there with my dick to give her a few good rounds.

On the KTV front, I visited Royce recently and the pickings are lousy as all the nap nap one has been prebooked. I got an ok chick and tried to practice some of the moves here but received lukewarm response. She is on visitor pass and did not exhibit any hunger. Tired to french her at the end of the night but she kept her mouth shut. Exchanged some smses and in fact asked her for lunch one day but she was sleeping. So there was radio silence since so I just fuck cut this exercise off. Might go KTV again this weekend but my friends only patronise Royce:( and I cannot call the shots as I appear occasionally only. Will post more stories.

Have a fun upcoming weekend!

fallen.angel

25-11-2010, 08:01 AM

Not sure if you can consider mine a baoee but I met her in one of those KTVs in Havelock 3 years ago. At first we exchanged a lot of SMSes and chatted on the phone and every time I go cheong KTV, she’ll be with me. Met up a lot, talked a lot, heavy petting but no sex. That went on for roughly 6 months until late one night, after sending her home from movie and drinks at Harry’s, I asked to use the toilet at her place. After I came out, she invited me to her rented room. We BJ each other till I CIM. Didn’t do the deed cos not prepared – no rubber.

Since then, we would always go to her place for great sex. She was in her late 20s and I can tell you, women in their late 20s early 30s are tigresses in bed. She calls me her bf/husband but she still carried on working at TAM, LV, LP. By then I had invested a fair bit to get to that stage.

I didn’t stop her from working. And I couldn’t. I’m married and can’t give her enough time (and I didn’t want to spend too much money on her) and I have to keep it very discreet. I knew she went out with other guys and over the years, she has gone overseas with customers. She tries to keep it from me but somehow I know – after being with someone for years, you’ll know them very well. At one stage, she even had another guy, a bachelor, bao her for up to 6 months until she called it quits.

Sex was very good. We are so accustomed to each others’ bodies and needs that we cum together most of the time and usually, she would have cummed a few times before I did. I’m old already so I don’t usually have a second shot, and it is also due to time constraint, so it is important I make her cum a few times first. She commented that the other guy was really bad in bed – he came within 2 minutes of penetration and never made her cum. Of cos I took it with a pinch of salt, but judging from the ecstasy she displays in bed and the way she dumped him, I just smile and keep quiet.

I am spending an average of less than $3K over 3 years. That’s because we always do it at her place and only during special occasions that we’ll dine and wine and fxxx in a 5 star hotel. Beginning of this year, we had agreed on the terms – that I pay her per sexxion. I know she will never be loyal to me and she knows I will not be able to spend more time with her. That said, I’ve helped her a lot and whenever she asked me to do stuff, fetch her, I would oblige, as long as its during office hours. I run my own business so my timing can be flexible. Oh, and don’t ever think you are the only guy who paid for that $5000 Chanel bag, ok?

Always admired WB and all the alpha males in this thread and would really love to meet these luminaries in person the next time I go LV, which would be next Thursday HH. I don’t post a lot because I can tell you – even the PRC WLs in GL surf Sammyboy. Once I wrote a FR and when I RTF the particular Ang Pai WL, she knew it was me and interrogated me! Some Samsters actually report and alert them to posts/FRs made on them. I think these Samsters are idiots but I digress.

Dragonkeep

25-11-2010, 03:39 PM

hock19 and dragonkeep,

I too belong to the category of preferring slightly matured girls i.e. 25-35 age range. I feel that girls at this age group are more worldly (means too street smart), can engage in meaningful conversation (instead of Wo Xiang Ni or Ni Zai Kan Ma?), most importantly more passionate and open minded in the bed.

On the KTV front, I visited Royce recently and the pickings are lousy as all the nap nap one has been prebooked. I got an ok chick and tried to practice some of the moves here but received lukewarm response. She is on visitor pass and did not exhibit any hunger

Thanks for the sharing bro.

I probably lack the skill/ patience of the SYT hunters here, for taming a SYT shrew!! The GFE element in bonking is so intangible yet quite discernible (at least to some of us) I guess that is why I have often found my best bonks with the 25 yo and more types. Currently have a 21 yo under evaluation. Just helped her move house yesterday, and huggy huggy (darn room mate was around) ... our first bonk was the usual starfish episode. She needs more drill (literally) to be happening. Close to firing another 24 yo for not being responsive enough, though she claims she wants my kid (later, says she) yaddah yaddah.

I agree with you on C Royce. Can pm you one mummy whom helps screen and select ST types (so u dun waste time assaulting an impregnable objective) and can make some recommendations. Even so, the stocks on hand are quite poor. I posted on the Royce thread that the place is commercially on the rocks - thought they changed their unnecessarily strict 6 week bottle retention policy, they have jettisoned their happy hour and shut Sundays. Can easily find parking on the road outside even. They have about 12-13 "singers" but have the silly problem that they gotta serve till 0230h (at least as at 1 month ago when I asked my fav "singer" there). The MMS I have bluntly tells me mai chang is also a dumbass non-starter in her view, from the $$ perspective. Told the MMS she better buck up on getting better personnel or they're headed the same way as Lehman Brothers ...

Dragonkeep

25-11-2010, 03:44 PM

hock19 and dragonkeep,

On the KTV front, I visited Royce recently ...!

Just tried to PM you - you damn popular dah, whole box is full. PM me if you dun get the details in queued mail.

Dragonkeep

25-11-2010, 04:01 PM

Sex was very good. We are so accustomed to each others’ bodies and needs that we cum together most of the time and usually, she would have cummed a few times before I did. I’m old already so I don’t usually have a second shot, and it is also due to time constraint, so it is important I make her cum a few times first. She commented that the other guy was really bad in bed – he came within 2 minutes of penetration and never made her cum

Oh, and don’t ever think you are the only guy who paid for that $5000 Chanel bag, ok?

Always admired WB and all the alpha males in this thread and would really love to meet these luminaries in person the next time I go LV, which would be next Thursday HH. I don’t post a lot because I can tell you – even the PRC WLs in GL surf Sammyboy. Once I wrote a FR and when I RTF the particular Ang Pai WL, she knew it was me and interrogated me! Some Samsters actually report and alert them to posts/FRs made on them. I think these Samsters are idiots but I digress.

Deja vu!!! Your experience is eerily similar ...! Must be a bloody "Idiots Guide to Being a PRC KTV MM" somewhere on sale in China or required reading for all MMs.

Fully agree how the MILFs (at least those I've had) are wha lou naturally solid in bed. Stunned to see the same sort of body function you describe above ... never thought I could cum simultaneously and regularly with a gal till started MILF sex actually.

Re: loyalty - looks like economic necessity drives non-baoees to two/3/4 etc timing us. However, for baoees - the two long RS were/are quite touchingly loyal ... but it's really the friggin RMB I think that made/makes them so. Plus I've met their folks and friends etc so that generates a deterrent.

I guess it's the Grandmasters on this site create the usual drain on the best SYTs at Havelock complex!! Everytime I tell my MMS, "that one that went by" and I get the standard "she's booked" answer. Now I'm pretty sure I know why:)

DO_YOU_BJ

25-11-2010, 04:07 PM

I don’t post a lot because I can tell you – even the PRC WLs in GL surf Sammyboy. Once I wrote a FR and when I RTF the particular Ang Pai WL, she knew it was me and interrogated me! Some Samsters actually report and alert them to posts/FRs made on them. I think these Samsters are idiots but I digress.

This is the biggest mistake you made.
You dun post cos they read this forum?????
You are telling us that you are hesitant because you afraid WHORES will know and has interrogated you before???????

Sorry if i sound offensive, but its meant to be.
Are you a man?
You feed them or they feed you?
You pay them or they pay you?
Very bluntly, you are the typical Mr NiceGuy that they just love to wrap around their fingers!!!!!

I will not deny, i have done the same thing before and a mr nice guy now mr heart broken, sabo me and told plus show that PRC about my post, he challenged me online, she called and sms me kpkb and i just laughed.
Yes, i've met her again, she's now a singer at chinatown point but so what?
You mean just because you post here you cant get pussies?

The amount of pussies you get does not equate to how much or how little they post. ITS THE PERSON!

To all bros, sorry but everytime i see this kinda wuss postings, it always reminds me of a PRC telling me about 10yrs ago, 你们这边的男人太怕女人了，呵呵，在大陆，可能那个女的被打了！

Take off your pants and what do you see, if you see a DICKY, please remind yourself not to sia suay OUR SPECIES!
Singaporean men already got a lot of bad press liao!

That's the prob wif our society, all so book smart, but street idiots!

fallen.angel

26-11-2010, 08:12 AM

Deja vu!!! Your experience is eerily similar ...! Must be a bloody "Idiots Guide to Being a PRC KTV MM" somewhere on sale in China or required reading for all MMs.

Fully agree how the MILFs (at least those I've had) are wha lou naturally solid in bed. Stunned to see the same sort of body function you describe above ... never thought I could cum simultaneously and regularly with a gal till started MILF sex actually.

Re: loyalty - looks like economic necessity drives non-baoees to two/3/4 etc timing us. However, for baoees - the two long RS were/are quite touchingly loyal ... but it's really the friggin RMB I think that made/makes them so. Plus I've met their folks and friends etc so that generates a deterrent.

I guess it's the Grandmasters on this site create the usual drain on the best SYTs at Havelock complex!! Everytime I tell my MMS, "that one that went by" and I get the standard "she's booked" answer. Now I'm pretty sure I know why:)

Hahaha, what gives? The only thing I can’t get my gal to do is squirt. I remember back in those crazy crazy days, in the heat of the moment, I went down on a KTV gal right inside the KTV room while simultaneously fingered her!! She moaned so loudly and after just 1 or 2 minutes, she pulled my head up again and at that moment, squirted! She looked at me with both astonishment and extreme elation. Those were the crazy days. Too bad she was caught in a raid and was sent home.

And don’t you worry, there will always be enough pussies to go around. Just ask if you have the time and money to invest in them.

fallen.angel

26-11-2010, 08:22 AM

This is the biggest mistake you made.
You dun post cos they read this forum?????
You are telling us that you are hesitant because you afraid WHORES will know and has interrogated you before???????

Sorry if i sound offensive, but its meant to be.
Are you a man?
You feed them or they feed you?
You pay them or they pay you?
Very bluntly, you are the typical Mr NiceGuy that they just love to wrap around their fingers!!!!!

I will not deny, i have done the same thing before and a mr nice guy now mr heart broken, sabo me and told plus show that PRC about my post, he challenged me online, she called and sms me kpkb and i just laughed.
Yes, i've met her again, she's now a singer at chinatown point but so what?
You mean just because you post here you cant get pussies?

The amount of pussies you get does not equate to how much or how little they post. ITS THE PERSON!

To all bros, sorry but everytime i see this kinda wuss postings, it always reminds me of a PRC telling me about 10yrs ago, 你们这边的男人太怕女人了，呵呵，在大陆，可能那个女的被打了！

Take off your pants and what do you see, if you see a DICKY, please remind yourself not to sia suay OUR SPECIES!
Singaporean men already got a lot of bad press liao!

That's the prob wif our society, all so book smart, but street idiots!

Dear bro DYB, yes, everything you said, well most of it, is right and I can’t disagree or fault you with. Therefore, no offense taken cos I know you must have gone through some bad experiences being a Mr Nice Guy, thus your strong opinion. Don’t get too worked-up. Been there, done that. And I quote Bro DragonKeep, its “Déjà vu” all over again.

Though I’m not going to explain myself at length which I feel is inappropriate in this thread, I shall briefly clarify a few things:

1) I am not afraid of not getting pussies if I post FRs. There are too many pussies, too little time. All my friends who cheong GL/KTVs/HCs etc etc, none of them, and I mean zilch, has ever posted on SB. All of them surf SB, only as a source to find who are the best pussies in town. They are too busy to post. Sometimes, they are too busy to even read! Cos a lot of them are just flaming wars, “who deducted my points without leaving a name”, mass-zapping wars, clone wars, etc etc childish behaviors. Real cheongsters just want to get info and things done. Who cares if who get how many rep points in cyberspace? For every posters like you and me, there are a 100 passive samsters who prefer to just read.

But how many of those fabulous FRs are true or can be trusted if the WLs reads them? There are idiots who lust over these WLs or so damn hard up to get into their good books so they post good (sometimes fake) reviews. If the WLs don’t understand certain things written in English, these idiots will even explain to them! To me, these are the real wussies. To me, these wussies are the ones to give us Singapore men the bad name.

Its like investment advisors or analysts who write investment reports or coverage on companies for their investment banks and clients – even if they are required by law to disclose pages and pages of disclaimers and what nots at the end of every report, how independent do you think they are?

2) Yes, I’m a Mr Nice Guy. I treat my baoee very nice and because of that, she’s so drawn to me. Of cos everybody knows its money that makes the world goes round but like I said, I have spent an average of less than $3K/month for the past 3 years and she always complain. I know she averages $15K per month, depending on how hardworking she is, so the money I give her is just a token. Its pay per fxxk for me now. I rejected her demand for a fixed monthly income becos she’s not a one-man gal for she still do ST. IU mean, how much do you think is enough for her to be loyal? It was a roller coaster ride initially but through the years, I’ve become battle-harden.

Sometimes, on 1 or 2 rare occasions when I sense that she has slacken on the GFE department (these KTV gals are very very dao and haughty becos of all the attention or “love” showered upon them by guys who want to get into their pussies), I will give her a good tongue-lashing and a piece of my mind. After that, her GFE will be tuned to 100%. I always remind her I am the 消费者. Nasty, yes. Push-over? You draw your own conclusion.

hock19

26-11-2010, 10:51 AM

DO_YOU_BJ

26-11-2010, 11:44 AM

fallen.angel

26-11-2010, 12:38 PM

[QUOTE=fallen.angel;5434718]
Sex was very good. We are so accustomed to each others’ bodies and needs that we cum together most of the time and usually, she would have cummed a few times before I did. I’m old already so I don’t usually have a second shot, and it is also due to time constraint, so it is important I make her cum a few times first. She commented that the other guy was really bad in bed – he came within 2 minutes of penetration and never made her cum. Of cos I took it with a pinch of salt, but judging from the ecstasy she displays in bed and the way she dumped him, I just smile and keep quiet.
QUOTE]

I could not have written a better report with my MILF as well. Exactly the same. Yesterday, i went out with a 23 year old, quite pretty slim with big boobs gal. Very nice body but sex was awful and totally no Gfe. This just confirms the fact that MILFs are for me no matter how pretty the SYT is!! In fact I am about to plan a trip to CHina to see my long loss MILF who I have not seen for a few months. It should be wonderful - especially the first couple of hours. The last time I saw her in China, after 5 mins of chit chat, she just wants to start bonking. And it was wet, wet, wet. Yummy!!

I once had a FB, 7 years ago. She was 27 yo, a Singaporean HOD of a multimillion organization. She was damn horny. She shallowed every time, every single drop. There was one morning we woke up and fxxked through the entire morning. I cummed 3 times. She cummed 10 times. We almost tried AJ but I can tell you my little bro by that time couldn’t get hard enough to penetrate. She even HJ me while I was driving and proceeded to BJ while I was parked in a shopping centre carpark. She swallowed everything! Anyways, that said, SYT can be very horny too. The most important thing is whether there is chemistry between the two of you. My baoee always tell me she’s in the 狼虎之年, or cougars in English.

fallen.angel

26-11-2010, 12:40 PM

Like i said many many times before, when you enter the elevator to a KTV, remember you're entering a dream.
When you leave the KTV and exit from the elevator, remember to wake up.
Treating a person nice is fine , but never apply morals to these WLs, cos they will never reciprocate, even if they do, what makes you think it''s real to begin with.
Remember, they're nothing but cars.
You pump petrol, they'll move, how much you pump will determine how far they'll go.
Morals are not applicable to these people!
Cos if they had any, you wont see them at the ktv's in the 1st place.

Thanks Bro DYB for your tireless reminders to fellow samsters, but I believe they will only learn after they get hurt. Some may even need to get hurt/burnt a few times before they can be properly immunized. Hahaha. Cos you are talking human emotions here. You can’t really tune up and tune down your emotions “professionally” like on the volume knob of the Hifi unless, I believe, one has gone through the baptism of KC! Even experienced cheongsters can and will succumb to the KC-ing of the occasional KTV gal/WL. We have seen it happen so many times.

Nowadays, my kakis don’t go to KTVs anymore. We all know its all an illusion. We are buying an illusion. Waste time, waste money. What’s more, I can’t do much at LV becos my baoee works there and she is fiercely territorial, those cougars. Even a magic trick or two for the MMS can trigger her jealousy! Nowadays, they prefer the instant gratification in GL. And because we are all so busy, sometimes, we even have to catch up over lunch at the whore house!

jamezwit

26-11-2010, 05:44 PM

Max77

27-11-2010, 03:05 AM

[QUOTE=hock19;5438157]

... 狼虎之年...

Best sex always comes from such group I hav to agreed :p

warbird

27-11-2010, 10:51 AM

Good morning!

I like to express my sincere gratitude to ALL bros who hv posted on this thread. I hv learned a great deal from ALL of u. The cumulative experience n wisdom of all the esteemed bros r incredibly useful to me.

I hv been very busy n will not be able to comment on all the posts.

It appears that most esteemed bros here prefer MILFs. I'm the exception here. SYTs can give very good service over time, w/ a little coaching n prodding. They r usually very wet n could be surprisingly responsive.

That said, I'll look at younger MILFs favorably as I hv detailed my wonderful experience w/ one of them.

Cheers!

Good move Bro WB....never show your cards upfront....tell her you are unemployed so she quote you lower...maybe her idea of gf is less commitment and bonking so can accept lower price....

Bro ME,

Yes, never let them know our cards...

She assures me that she will never 出街。 But I may not want her afterall bcos she is less cute w/o makeup n has some acne. I'm very picky.

Good move le ... unemployed .. well done!!!
3k not bad le ... like paying a PA like that :) but can do more things!

Always tell them u r unemployed. If she sees u w/ lots of cash n an upscale car, tell her u r the top advisor of an international crime syndicate, hahaha.

Please do not as i am no where near the league of your famed chairman austin. You can call me Obama in short

Good morning, Mr. Obama!

Not sure if you can consider mine a baoee but I met her in one of those KTVs in Havelock 3 years ago............

Since then, we would always go to her place for great sex. She was in her late 20s and I can tell you, women in their late 20s early 30s are tigresses in bed. She calls me her bf/husband but she still carried on working at TAM, LV, LP. By then I had invested a fair bit to get to that stage.

I didn’t stop her from working. And I couldn’t. I’m married and can’t give her enough time (and I didn’t want to spend too much money on her) and I have to keep it very discreet. I knew she went out with other guys and over the years, she has gone overseas with customers..........................

Always admired WB and all the alpha males in this thread and would really love to meet these luminaries in person the next time I go LV, which would be next Thursday HH. I don’t post a lot because I can tell you – even the PRC WLs in GL surf Sammyboy. Once I wrote a FR and when I RTF the particular Ang Pai WL, she knew it was me................

Bro fallen.angel,

Whether she is a BAO-ee or not is unimportant (she doesn't meet my definition as she makes it clear that her pussy is not exclusive). If u enjoy the arrangement then it's perfect for u.

If a gal's pussy is not exclusive to me, I'll just pay for each session or ST.

This is the biggest mistake you made.
You dun post cos they read this forum?????
You are telling us that you are hesitant because you afraid WHORES will know and has interrogated you before???????

Sorry if i sound offensive, but its meant to be.
Are you a man?
You feed them or they feed you?
You pay them or they pay you?
Very bluntly, you are the typical Mr NiceGuy that they just love to wrap around their fingers!!!!!
.................................................. ...................
The amount of pussies you get does not equate to how much or how little they post. ITS THE PERSON!

To all bros, sorry but everytime i see this kinda wuss postings, it always reminds me of a PRC telling me about 10yrs ago, 你们这边的男人太怕女人了，呵呵，在大陆，可能那个女的被打了！
.................................................. ..................................
That's the prob wif our society, all so book smart, but street idiots!

Hi Chairman Austin,

Ths for ur post.

SIN men should wake up n take up arms! Most of us here r wussies when dealing w/ PRC gals. I know some of their China BFs beat them up n steal their hard-earned money. A Hunan gal once told me her ex-BF got her bank password n stole all of her money!

Dear bro DYB, yes, everything you said, well most of it, is right and I can’t disagree or fault you with. Therefore, no offense taken cos I know you must have gone through some bad experiences being a Mr Nice Guy, thus your strong opinion.................

1) I am not afraid of not getting pussies if I post FRs..........

2) Yes, I’m a Mr Nice Guy. I treat my baoee very nice..............
I always remind her I am the 消费者. Nasty, yes. Push-over? You draw your own conclusion.

Bro fallen.angel,

Ths for sharing ur experience.

Like i said many many times before, when you enter the elevator to a KTV, remember you're entering a dream.
When you leave the KTV and exit from the elevator, remember to wake up.
Treating a person nice is fine , but never apply morals to these WLs, cos they will never reciprocate.........
Remember, they're nothing but cars.
You pump petrol, they'll move, how much you pump will determine how far they'll go.
Morals are not applicable to these people!
Cos if they had any, you wont see them at the ktv's in the 1st place.

Thank you, Chairman Austin.

Thanks Bro DYB for your tireless reminders to fellow samsters, but I believe they will only learn after they get hurt. Some may even need to get hurt/burnt a few times before they can be properly immunized. Hahaha.

Nowadays, my kakis don’t go to KTVs anymore. We all know its all an illusion. We are buying an illusion. Waste time, waste money. What’s more, I can’t do much at LV becos my baoee works there and she is fiercely territorial....................................... ...

I dun get it. Why r u afraid to see ur gal in LV? If she can work n expose herself to all the men there n no doubt get fxked by many of them, n u can't even show up to look for other gals??!!:confused: Wat kind of an unfair arrangement is that? It's akin to unilateral disarmament during the Cold War!

Going to LV HH this coming Thurs? PM me n I'll come w/ a couple of bros. There r a no of gals there (6-8?) who r either my ex or BAO-ees-to-be or hv agreed to be BAO-ed in the past, hahaha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Loving_Dickhead

27-11-2010, 02:58 PM

Like i said many many times before, when you enter the elevator to a KTV, remember you're entering a dream.
When you leave the KTV and exit from the elevator, remember to wake up.

Bro, so rightly said. Why do guys go KTV to look for MMs or Singers? Lonely? Wife not satisfying the guy enough? Stress? Life's lacking direction?

Basically going into a KTV/HFJ is buying a dream. A dream so rarely found in real life. A dream which you will eventually wakes up from, depending our how quick or slow - painful or joyful - expensive or cheap.

Everything is a choice, but cheongsters, you need to reach that decerning choice of yours for a right purpose. Why KTV/HFJs PRCs/Viets/Mly etc come to singapore to work and let men touch, roam, kiss, groupe - that they like it or they are shortage of love or cocks? Can these women actually nail down a proper job back in China? Many of these so called singers are actually waitresses, bargirls, sales assistants or worse, WLs back home. Many of these earn less than RMB2000 a month.

They are farking WLs - they are here to earn money - they are here to hit and run. How many sensational stories we have heard over the years vs happy-endings or live happily ever after types?

Treating a person nice is fine , but never apply morals to these WLs, cos they will never reciprocate, even if they do, what makes you think it''s real to begin with.
Remember, they're nothing but cars.
You pump petrol, they'll move, how much you pump will determine how far they'll go.
Morals are not applicable to these people!
Cos if they had any, you wont see them at the ktv's in the 1st place.

I buy a car, I pump the farking petrol. I lut the car, I happy. I abuse the car I happy. The car not performing proper, I sell/dispose it also happy. I crash my cars as well as taking the knocks on them, I also happy.Cars are not assets, you pay and you expense for them, so are WLs. I am a person who will thorough use anything I bought, anything exchange with monetary can be used and abused. That's my philosophy.

WLs, Singers are here to make you happy with a PURPOSE - a purpose that can be bought with money. Make them prove they are worth it. Just like why you fork out good money for a performance car, because it has proven to be good!

I got singers telling me that they come to Singapore for:
(1) escape from their China abusive BFs/Husbands - yes, some of them are married. Many WLs do have BFs and hubby back home. In China, many women are actually being roughly treated and abused by their BFs and spouses. Do you know?

(2) money - yes, the most obvious reason.

(3) education - yes, possible but why are they moonlighting in the first place. Are they taking their farking studies seriously and what are their standards right now?

(4) Singapore men money very easy to earn. NEEDS MONEY, NEEDS MORE MONEY!!!

(5) Singapore men all very nice and gentlemen.

(6) Singapore currency is bigger than China, i.e. FX. Earning power also greater and China standard of living much much lower.

(7) Cannot find proper job back home.

(8) Nurse a broken heart.

Make them prove that they deserve to be treated nicely, make them prove that they deserve your dime.

WLs are commodities, they earn your money with their smiles and their bodies. You pay for them, the luxuries. Tell me, what will you do when your purchased items farked you up big time!?! Still a Mr. Nice Guy?!? To me, you are a farking loser... sorry that I have to say so if I have to make sure some guys wake up from their purchased dreams.

A trivia: how much does it costs to go to a village in China to purchase a PRC Virgin?

Best wishes,
LDH :cool:

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Loving_Dickhead

27-11-2010, 03:10 PM

Thanks Bro DYB for your tireless reminders to fellow samsters, but I believe they will only learn after they get hurt. Some may even need to get hurt/burnt a few times before they can be properly immunized. Hahaha. Cos you are talking human emotions here. You can’t really tune up and tune down your emotions “professionally” like on the volume knob of the Hifi unless, I believe, one has gone through the baptism of KC! Even experienced cheongsters can and will succumb to the KC-ing of the occasional KTV gal/WL. We have seen it happen so many times.

Nowadays, my kakis don’t go to KTVs anymore. We all know its all an illusion. We are buying an illusion. Waste time, waste money. What’s more, I can’t do much at LV becos my baoee works there and she is fiercely territorial, those cougars. Even a magic trick or two for the MMS can trigger her jealousy! Nowadays, they prefer the instant gratification in GL. And because we are all so busy, sometimes, we even have to catch up over lunch at the whore house!

Bro, I cannot offer you more kind advices as many esteemed bros have done so before me.

Your last para on LV showed your fears because of a WL. Even a novice reader in SBF can see through that.

I am not going to say further, you know yourself best. Despite your retorts to DYBJ's comments, you know you appear strong and simply know what to do. Again, I ask of you - do you know yourself? Are you that strong?

2) Yes, I’m a Mr Nice Guy. I treat my baoee very nice and because of that, she’s so drawn to me. Of cos everybody knows its money that makes the world goes round but like I said, I have spent an average of less than $3K/month for the past 3 years and she always complain. I know she averages $15K per month, depending on how hardworking she is, so the money I give her is just a token. Its pay per fxxk for me now. I rejected her demand for a fixed monthly income becos she’s not a one-man gal for she still do ST. IU mean, how much do you think is enough for her to be loyal? It was a roller coaster ride initially but through the years, I’ve become battle-harden.

Your gal or so-called BAOee continues to do ST with other guys. Not so bad for the definition of the word BAOee. She is drawn to you because you are nice nice or because you are so nice to allow her to further her ST income?

Simply put as battle-hardened cheongster, wear your pants and go to LV. Get your BY to sit with you with another 2 more WLs side by side. If your BY not happy, tell her to get the fark out. This is my challenge to you.

p/s: I have pay-for-fark several singers and WLs before, they are not my BAOee nor will they be FBs. They are piece-meal commercial farks.

Take care bro,
LDH :D

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Hooters666

28-11-2010, 11:55 AM

Fallen Angel

The comments here might be over harsh at a personal level but they are all meant to enhance you as a ruthless merciless cheongster. At the end of the day you will reap the fruits of all the knowledge imparted here. Don't shy away from this thread because of your personal experience. There must be a reason why this thread is alive till today. I told my friends there are 2 threads you need to read in SBF ...this one and the Mistress thread.

All the best to you!!

warbird

29-11-2010, 10:40 AM

Bro, so rightly said........

Basically going into a KTV/HFJ is buying a dream. A dream so rarely found in real life. .......................
Everything is a choice, but cheongsters, you need to reach that decerning choice of yours for a right purpose. .........Many of these so called singers are actually waitresses, bargirls, sales assistants or worse, WLs back home. Many of these earn less than RMB2000 a month.

They are farking WLs - they are here to earn money.........................

I am a person who will thorough use anything I bought, anything exchange with monetary can be used and abused. That's my philosophy.

WLs, Singers are here to make you happy with a PURPOSE - a purpose that can be bought with money. Make them prove they are worth it..............

I got singers telling me that they come to Singapore for:
.................................................. ..........
Make them prove that they deserve to be treated nicely, make them prove that they deserve your dime.

WLs are commodities....................................... .........
A trivia: how much does it costs to go to a village in China to purchase a PRC Virgin?

Bro, I cannot offer you more kind advices as many esteemed bros have done so before me.

Your last para on LV showed your fears because of a WL.....................

Your gal or so-called BAOee continues to do ST with other guys. Not so bad for the definition of the word BAOee. She is drawn to you because you are nice nice or because you are so nice to allow her to further her ST income?

Simply put as battle-hardened cheongster, wear your pants and go to LV. Get your BY to sit with you with another 2 more WLs side by side. If your BY not happy, tell her to get the fark out. This is my challenge to you...............

Hi bro LDH,

Wonderful advice for all cheongsters who engage in the operation of BY-ing.

fallen.angel, i will not call you bro cos you just not a man. You say she your baoyee but more like she bao your lanjiao and your lumpa ji! You got use her kotex or tampon bo? 你根本就不是个男人!

Hi Vice Chairman,

Very strong words but quite appropriate.

"The nice guy syndrome" is a severe n intractable sickness n requires strong medicine, hehehe.

Many SG men are wussies n they r intimidated by women they find attractive. They become submissive n put them on the pedestal...sort of role reversal; consequently, they become as attractive as eunuchs to the women they desire, regardless of their physical size/muscle mass, sexual skills, social-economic status, wealth, etc.

A real man must be dominant n has excellent self mastery. Everything else is secondary.

Fallen Angel

The comments here might be over harsh at a personal level but they are all meant to enhance you as a ruthless merciless cheongster. At the end of the day you will reap the fruits of all the knowledge imparted here...............

Very harsh but necessary...could fallen angel be resuscitated?

Why you bother to tell him so much Hooters666, his nick already tells you everything. He is a FALLEN ANGEL, 什么都完了, you know XD

I'm more optimistic. Everything is changing constantly n nothing is impossible in this world.

There is hope even for fallen angel, hehehe. He must be willing to change n be prepared to take very strong medicine.

Cheers!

Bro WB

fallen.angel

29-11-2010, 11:53 AM

Wow, thanks for all the feedback from my posts. I’ve never expected such interest in my posts and now I’m drawn to the limelight, hahaha. Let me try to response to all your replies together.

Dear Warbird,

1. Yes, I know mine doesn’t fit your definition of a Baoee but I’ve already stated that very clearly in my first sentence, first post in this thread. Nevertheless, I’ve continued to use this term out of convenience.

2. I started posting here becos the thread began mentioning MILFs so I contributed my experience. In no way am I saying the SYTs aren’t better than the MILFs. Like you rightfully said, they get very wet relatively easier and they just need a little training.

3. I never believe in exclusive pussies. I’m in the line where I don’t need to entertain nor travel for my work and so I can’t really take too much time off my busy work schedule. I believe the only way a pussy can be exclusive is when you can be with your baoee almost 24/7.

I hate to say this but by the time you have successfully wooed your potential baoee into submission, she would also have amassed a phone-directory worth of potential contacts who are ever so eager to ST with them. Now the question is how much do you pay them so that it becomes too risky a gamble for them to do STs while you’re not in Singapore to monitor them? The MMSs who you engage to help monitor these baoees in the KTVs would never know becos these PRCs are very very cunning. Every pussy has a price, how much do you think you need to up for $$$ before the balance tip in your favor to make her exclusive? It would be stupid (at least for me) to keep throwing money at her thinking that would make her loyal while with limited time on my side.

So unless I have that kind of money and time, I would prefer my current arrangement. To me, BY is only a viable option only if (A) I have lots of money (or willing to put in that kind of money) and (B) lots of time. That’s why I prefer my current paid-per-fxxk arrangement and it fits my lifestyle perfectly. Like you, I used to enjoy the “hunting” process but my current lifestyle couldn’t afford me such “hobby” for the time being. But when there’s no sparks left and I have lost total interest in her, I will have to move my fat and lazy behind out of my comfort zone and into the hunting ground once more.

4. I appreciate you and Bro DYBJ kindness in reminding what wussies many Singaporeans (myself included) are and how we become laughing stocks of the PRC pussies. Come on, I’ve heard it a zillion times, and many times from these PRCs themselves too you know? Yawn.

For the record, I admit I’m a Mr Nice Guy and I’m not ashamed or afraid or feel inferior to admit it here in the alpha-male and testosterone-charged thread which I’ve bookmarked. I know how many of these PRCs are being ill-treated by their PRC husbands/bfs back home but frankly, there are such Singaporean husbands too right? Does that make them manly?

I’m past the age where I need reassurance and approval from my peers for what I do to feel good or comfortable. I quote Warren Buffett: “You’re neither right nor wrong because other people agree with you. You’re right because your facts are right and your reasoning is right—and that’s the only thing that makes you right. And if your facts and reasoning are right, you don’t have to worry about anybody else.” But when it comes to BYs, there’s no right or wrong – just how much you put in and how much you get out of it. For me, I get 6 to 8 multi-orgasmic fxxks per month for about $2K+/mth at her place that is conveniently located between my house and work place and I’m most happy about it.

5. I think my post about how I can’t do much at LV must have generated the most and strongest comments. Like I said, I like what I’m getting at the moment and is not about to upset that balance. I have absolutely no time and energy to hunt for a second arrangement and so for variety, I go to GL. Now, she suspects I visit GL but I’ve never denied nor admit. If I don’t admit to her, does that make me a wussie? I’m just playing it smart. Part of our conversation:

I say: “You charge higher than GL150. I can get different SYTs, all of whom younger than you, to service me you know?”
She: “But they are from rural areas or are factory workers”
Me: “Aren’t you all the same naked and in bed?”
She: “…”

I once told her the only difference between her (and all her KTV jiemeis) and those working in GL is this – you get to choose your customers while they don’t.

BigGuy

29-11-2010, 12:06 PM

fallen.angel

29-11-2010, 02:00 PM

Just to add: no KTV MM/WL in their right state of mind will ever admit they do ST, mine included. You should know these gals very well. You’ll have to find that out yourself. So when I said she’s not a one-man gal, it doesn’t mean she tells me she does ST becos I’m not paying her enough. She just said she needs to earn her own living. Am I willing to be responsible for her life? Even if its for the duration of the relationship? Nope. You have your own life, I have mine.

Like I said, there’s a price for every pussy. Some are just more expensive than others. And it is up to your skills to try get it. That’s what makes the game fun no? You want to win the game, you must be willing to invest the time and money but don’t cry foul when you lose. Be a good sport.

Dear Loving Dickhead,

Yes, they are commodities. Crude but true. You pay and get your needs satisfied. I like your car analogy. How far and how much you get out of your car depends on how much petrol you pump into it and how well you service/take care of the car. Everybody drives a different car and drives/treats it differently. Some like to spend tons of money and time on it. I never understand the logic behind bigger tailpipes, larger rims, ten sharkfins, etc etc. nor why would someone spend the entire Sunday afternoon washing, polishing and vacuuming it. To me, its just a vehicle to get me from point A to point B in comfort and a little prestige. Though I don’t spend time and money on it, it doesn’t mean I don’t take care of it or abuse it just becos its mine. Use and abuse is not my motto. I try to derive value for my money. Price is what you pay, value is what you get.

Yes, I’ll wear my pants and go down (or up) to LV this Thursday. I have a bottle there so its just $58.85 for the room package and free-flow of fruits. Now I’m not going to take up your challenge to get 2 mms to sit with me and my gal. 为什么要跟我的钱过不去？I don’t need to prove myself to a stranger right? I think I’ll have better things to do with $300 than to use it to defend my ego from strangers I’ll never get to know. Having said that, I know very well that I’m not going to convince you and you will just take it as my excuse. No matter, I’ll just admit I’m not a man.

Dear ObamaRocks,

Yup, 我根本就不是个男人! To each his own. I picked the nick fallen angel to remind me of those high-flying stocks back during the Internet boom which I held on to until they became zilch. Today’s stars may become worthless tomorrow. That painful lesson served me well. So much so that it helped me avoided stocks like Lehman Bros and Citigroup later on. Satan is also a fallen angel.

Dear Hooters666,

Thanks for your nice words. I have this thread bookmarked. I don’t have time or the privacy to post during weekends and too busy with work during the work week to reply. Rest assured I’ll be around to read posts by you guys. I believe in the power of the collective knowledge here in this thread.

And to WB, I’ll not change cos I’m comfortable with who I am. Why fix something that aint broken? I’ll change when I don’t get things done. I’ll still learn a trick or two or get some useful tips here to improve myself. Everyone is different and we approach our target in different ways. Whilst many things you posted are valuable and some are universal truths, I think we all know we work differently as individuals to achieve our goals. To me, confidence is very important. People can sense it. And if you do not have confidence, you don’t get the pussies.

fallen.angel

29-11-2010, 02:13 PM

At the end of the day, it's nite gals choice to take cash as transaction in return of favours. Or they feel you are good enough to do w/o $ transaction.

So enjoy yourself and take advise you deemed ok. Cheers.

Hi BigGuy, I don't believe in "good enough to do w/o $ transaction". Its a batter trade. $ or in kind, it will ultimately add up. I don't want to receive or give any commitments. Getting them to be too sticky is the last thing i want.

Loving_Dickhead

29-11-2010, 03:01 PM

fallen.angel

29-11-2010, 04:13 PM

Dear Fallen Angel,

From the way you wrote, I can see you are a very sensible person. I have seen a lot of friends and even strangers gotten into an emotional wreck. No one is alone and why am I replying was because I do not wish to see another human falls thru' the cracks of commercial sex or vice inducements.

My only comment, not a retort, comes purely because you replied saying that you will wear your pants and go down to LV on Thursday - do you still have the worry that your name-sake convenience BAOee will be territorial as usual or would you still be having good fun. If you are there to consume outstanding bottles with limited outlay then it will be fine. But if you are going there to enjoy skin-trade and there is this fear, why go?

Being a man or not, its not for me to comment and I never ask of it from anyone - I do not have the right to. Taking up my challenge as a proposition to monetary value or not, it is your free will. Either way it will not affect my opinion on the night scene or on anyone I know, stangers or otherwise. We are all equal and we are all fallible in our own ways.

For me and some of the other experienced bros, we are just offering our alternative views from different angles and they are not meant to be offensive. Some other folks do get too carried away with their comments and result to name-callings, ignore them. Like I mention before in my earlier post, you know yourself best. :D

Cheers and have a good one this Thursday.

LDH :D

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Dear LDH,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I’ve heard and read about these unfortunate emotional wrecks on SBF but fortunately, that has never happened to me and my kakis. At least not yet. Hahaha. Fingers crossed!

Why? Because we all know that end of the day, we have families to go back to and that we will never be willing to commit more than we can afford or want to. We all have mouths to feed and commitments to meet and so we have to budget ourselves and try and derive the maximum thrills and pleasures from these sweet PRCs with our limited resources. All these take time and energy and effort on our part. I have to psycho her to believe that I’m really not as well-off as I seem to be, boss, the type of car I drive, the place and type of house I stay in, and investments I hold etc etc. And once I’ve achieved that, I don’t want to upset that balance. I can tell you, these gals are predators. If their clients can nonchalantly throw a $1,000 tip just to say hi in the room, which is not uncommon in Havelock Road, sooner or later, they will begin to think all other men are that super-rich (or super stupid). They have been conditioned as such and so you have to manage their expectation very carefully!

Long gone are the days of Godfather, Lisbo, etc etc where you get bbbjs and even fjs in the room. I don’t go LV for rubba rubba or to find my next kill. Don’t have the time and patience. My kakis have all lost interest liao. They don’t think its worth it. So we only go there to catch up, have dinner and try to finish the outstanding bottles. Even the MMS also give up on us! Hahaha!

Anyways, I don’t find your posts offensive. If I did, I wouldn’t have replied.

besafe

29-11-2010, 05:09 PM

Some other folks do get too carried away with their comments and result to name-callings, ignore them.
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Yes I agree... ignore them.

Oceanlee

30-11-2010, 11:19 AM

Just to share from my view, to go into the BY scene..... its not just the $$$$ that you parted as a patron's and get to have that inclusive piece of meat. In a real BY scene, be it KTV/Singer/Waitress or Model SYTs, One will expect a certain demand of timeoff apart from having quickies and hardcore sex.
(Apart from buying Baggies/Clothes/Nice Meal)

Then again you need to brace for yourself the emotional roller-coaster which will be coming as part of the KCed Voodoo and it's all depend on how you react to those unwanted "Noise-or-Nuisance", hence its not you that trying to get the vested worth, but vice-versa.

In the BY deal, there are levels of engaging method and tailored/customized.
The fundamental are to note, which is to match within your mammon and your schedule, and how you are able to monitor your vested interest. Having all these is only basic, next be mentally engaged and anticipate as and when you are both in quality time and dialogue. If you understand what I mean, you are halfway to success to manipulate their emotional and fine tune along the way to get their "hearts" stay tuned with you for the period or even extend beyond their course of stay here. ;)

(Its either you clear them flat or you will become their ride) Hence, any BY the 1st to 4th week is usual the honeymoon period. :D Any longer, you will need to shown your Mastery Mind and tackle it at the back on their mind. Which can range from any small issue to smoothing with a wet kiss and always getting a better sex in return, if you carefully understand and study the body-behaviour.

Just my 2 cents sharing. :)
Cheers,
OL

warbird

30-11-2010, 11:56 AM

Wow, thanks for all the feedback from my posts.............
Dear Warbird,

1. Yes, I know mine doesn’t fit your definition of a Baoee.........Nevertheless, I’ve continued to use this term out of convenience.

2. I started posting here becos the thread began mentioning MILFs so I contributed my experience. In no way am I saying the SYTs aren’t better than the MILFs.......
3. I never believe in exclusive pussies..................

I hate to say this but.......................

So unless I have that kind of money and time, I would prefer my current arrangement.....I will have to move my fat and lazy behind out of my comfort zone and into the hunting ground once more.

4. I appreciate you and Bro DYBJ kindness in reminding what wussies many Singaporeans (myself included) are......

For the record, I admit I’m a Mr Nice Guy and I’m not ashamed or afraid or feel inferior to admit it here in the alpha-male and testosterone-charged thread which I’ve bookmarked.......

I’m past the age where I need reassurance and approval from my peers for what I do to feel good or comfortable. I quote Warren Buffett: “You’re neither right nor wrong because other people agree with you. You’re right because your facts are right and your reasoning is right—and that’s the only thing that makes you right. And if your facts and reasoning are right, you don’t have to worry about anybody else.” But when it comes to BYs, there’s no right or wrong – just how much you put in and how much you get out of it......
5. I think my post about how I can’t do much at LV must have generated the most and strongest comments. Like I said, I like what I’m getting at the moment and is not about to upset that balance. I have absolutely no time and energy to hunt for a second arrangement and so for variety, I go to GL....

I once told her the only difference between her (and all her KTV jiemeis) and those working in GL is this – you get to choose your customers while they don’t.

Hi bro fallen.angel,

Ths for ur posts.

I like the quote by Warren Buffett. I know his method well. Have u read "The Making of an American Capitalist"? Good book. If u hv followed his method, u should be independently wealthy.

As for cheonging n BY-ing, to each his own.

If u r perfectly contented w/ ur current arrangement, then u should continue...after all, "There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." - Shakespeare.

There is something I dun understand. No time to hunt for ST? But getting ST from a pretty KTV is so easy as there many who r in this line. Just go to a high-end KTV n ask a mummy to bring only gals who say "I do," hehehe.

I crave exclusivity bcos I wont french nor paint a gal who does ST. Most prettier n younger SYTs in high end KTVs play hard to get n want to be BY-ed only, which is fine.

I also prefer younger, fairer n taller SYT (18 would be the best but must be less than 25) of a certain looks n certain quantifiable body/limb proportions, which r highly attractive to ME. Last but not least, her pussy must be pretty n cute, preferably pink, tight, wet n responsive. I hv been ridiculed for my preferences by frens n bros alike, mainly bcos I'm old n not tall. But I can't help it.

I mentioned 6 days ago that I went to meet a cute 22 yo who requested to be my GF for a mere 3K a month. She would continue to work, although she has never n will never do ST. I declined bcos she wasn't as cute w/o makeup n had some facial acne.

Cheers!

Just to add: no KTV MM/WL in their right state of mind will ever admit they do ST, mine included.....................

Like I said, there’s a price for every pussy. Some are just more expensive than others. And it is up to your skills to try get it........

Dear Loving Dickhead,

Yes, they are commodities. Crude but true. You pay and get your needs satisfied. I like your car analogy..... I try to derive value for my money. Price is what you pay, value is what you get.
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Dear ObamaRocks,

Yup, 我根本就不是个男人! To each his own. I picked the nick fallen angel to remind me of those high-flying stocks back during the Internet boom which I held on to until they became zilch.............................

Dear Hooters666,

Thanks for your nice words. I have this thread bookmarked. I don’t have time or the privacy to post during weekends and too busy with work during the work week to reply........

And to WB, I’ll not change cos I’m comfortable with who I am. Why fix something that aint broken?..............................

Hi bro fallen.angel,

"Price is what you pay, value is what you get." Absolutely. I can see that u r a value investor. But why did u buy internet stocks? I was sold short several dozens internet companies in 2000 but made only a little net profit bcos the cos would announce good news, mostly bogus, to boost their stock prices so that insiders could unload. When the prices surged, I was forced to cover. Within a yr, most of these worthless cos ceased to exist. I could hv made many millions instead of peanuts.

You hv earned my respect for ur courage to admit that 我根本就不是个男人! Ironically, that admission makes u a MAN! Misguided n different perhaps, but a MAN in my book, hehehe.

A famous eunuch, Zheng He, was quite a "MAN" despite his lowly position n lack of testosterone, IMHO. He was very smart, confident, hardworking n had excellent SELF MASTERY. To me, he was more MANLY than a wussbag w/ 25 cm dick.:cool:

Cheers!

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Good morning!

I got a surprise call from a long lost bro K yesterday, while I was going to consummate BY-ing w/ my new mistress in the newly-rented master bdrm. BTW, bro K is young, handsome, well educated n loaded, but had some problems getting gals, at least in the past.:confused:

He invited me to go LV SH, but I told him I couldn't. I then gave him the HP of a good mummy.

Several hrs later, as I was finishing the BY-ing process, he texted me n said that he went w/ a fren who drove a Ferrari there. They got 4 hotties who were all eager to do ST w/ them! Why? His fren is very handsome n a big spender. He wished that I was there. I said another time perhaps n added that I must meet his very handsome fren, hehehe. Wonder if they had an orgy? Will call him later to find out.

I'm most sextisfied w/ my new gal. She is a 22 yo fair, pretty Fujian gal, non-smoker, 168 w/o shoes, 50kg, natural B/C boobs, right body/limb proportions of my type. Most importantly, she has small mouth n pretty lips n matching small cute, pink pussy. She is very easily orgasmic n very tight/wet. She had COS n also did everything I wanted her to do...

Cheers!

Bro WB

fallen.angel

30-11-2010, 05:03 PM

Dear bro warbird,

I’m a fan of and believer in Warren Buffett and his teachings. Read a few books but not the one you mentioned. It is always through failure that you learn your mistakes and improve. And so, it was the hundreds of thousands of financial losses as a result of my reckless speculative behavior that molded me into who I am now – cool, calm and collected, and a thinking investor. As the saying goes: everything that happens, happens for a reason. Or the Chinese version: 一切发生的事情，都是上天最好的安排. Can a fallen angel be resuscitated? Sure can. Hahaha. So now, all of my investments have given me very good returns – be it equities, properties, bonds, etc. *Fingers crossed* If I lead a humble, simple and frugal life, (and stop all vice) I can actually retire now. But, are we going to be so easily contended? ‘sides, there’s like another twenty odd years before I can collect my CPF. Well, enough of blowing my own trumpet.

And to answer your other question:

No, I’ve not really thought of getting ST from a pretty KTV SYT from a high end KTV. Well I know I sound like a cheapskate but $500 - $1,000 per ST from a deadfish? Now I may be unfair to make such a comment since I’ve never tried one before but that’s the impression I get from my kakis and even here in SBF. Getting them to genuinely like me and want to service me, not a problem at all. But I’ll need to spend a lot more time on them. Time, is the luxury I don’t have right now. Way I see it, I’m paying for all the unnecessary packaging and I’m a sucker for service. I’m a value investor, remember? Hahaha.

If I have more “free” time I will not hesitate to BY one SYT and train her up because with enough free time on my hands, I will be able to reap the full benefits of the BY experience. I shall stop elaborating lest I’m branded a cheapskate. Hey, your resources are limited while the SYT’s desires aren’t. So how do you reconcile that if you don’t exercise “self mastery” over your resources right?

warbird

30-11-2010, 05:18 PM

Just to share from my view, to go into the BY scene..... its not just the $$$$ that you parted as a patron's and get to have that inclusive piece of meat. In a real BY scene, be it KTV/Singer/Waitress or Model SYTs, One will expect a certain demand of timeoff apart from having quickies and hardcore sex.
(Apart from buying Baggies/Clothes/Nice Meal)..............

Then again you need to brace for yourself the emotional roller-coaster
(Its either you clear them flat or you will become their ride) Hence, any BY the 1st to 4th week is usual the honeymoon period. :D Any longer, you will need to shown your Mastery Mind and tackle it at the back on their mind. Which can range from any small issue to smoothing with a wet kiss and always getting a better sex in return, if you carefully understand and study the body-behaviour......

Hi bro OL,

Ths so much for sharing ur thoughts n reflections on BY-ing. You're a seasoned BAO-er.

I like to add that hving a place u can call home for u n ur mistress is a big plus n can enhance the fun n excitement in this game.

Yes, MIND MASTERY is the key which will decide the outcome of a BY-ing RS.

It's true that the person who cares the least in a relationship, controls the relationship. And we men must retain the power n be in firm control.;)

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

30-11-2010, 05:40 PM

Dear bro warbird,

I’m a fan of and believer in Warren Buffett and his teachings. Read a few books but not the one you mentioned. It is always through failure that you learn your mistakes and improve. And so, it was the hundreds of thousands of financial losses as a result of my reckless speculative behavior that molded me into who I am now – cool, calm and collected, and a thinking investor. As the saying goes: everything that happens, happens for a reason. Or the Chinese version: 一切发生的事情，都是上天最好的安排. Can a fallen angel be resuscitated? Sure can. Hahaha. So now, all of my investments have given me very good returns – be it equities, properties, bonds, etc. *Fingers crossed* If I lead a humble, simple and frugal life, (and stop all vice) I can actually retire now. But, are we going to be so easily contended? ‘sides, there’s like another twenty odd years before I can collect my CPF. Well, enough of blowing my own trumpet.

And to answer your other question:

No, I’ve not really thought of getting ST from a pretty KTV SYT from a high end KTV. Well I know I sound like a cheapskate but $500 - $1,000 per ST from a deadfish? Now I may be unfair to make such a comment since I’ve never tried one before but that’s the impression I get from my kakis and even here in SBF. Getting them to genuinely like me and want to service me, not a problem at all............

If I have more “free” time I will not hesitate to BY one SYT and train her up because with enough free time on my hands, I will be able to reap the full benefits of the BY experience. I shall stop elaborating lest I’m branded a cheapskate. Hey, your resources are limited while the SYT’s desires aren’t. So how do you reconcile that if you don’t exercise “self mastery” over your resources right?

Hi bro,

The book I mentioned is the best. Snowball is worth reading as well. You should also read "How to be Rich" by J. Paul Getty.

You're really very young compared to an ah pek like me. Ur future is limitless.

Yeah, ur kakis r half right. In my personal experience, 1/3 of high end KTV gals who do ST r dead fish, the 2/3 r quite responsive. The majority of my BAO-ees r good to great in bed, otherwise, I would dump them asap.

Cheers!

warbird

02-12-2010, 03:04 PM

Good Afternoon!

A famous Asian guru just emailed this to me:

Using JEALOUSY To Make A Woman Feel ATTRACTION For You
Wednesday, 1 December, 2010 11:31 AM

Hi Bro WB,

One of the FASTEST ways to turn a friend over to a LOVER is
to make her JEALOUS. You must make her see you as a MAN.

And to do that, it's all a matter of building up your
SEXUAL VALUE in her eyes.

Making someone jealous is one of the quickest ways to establish
your sexual value.

I cannot stress that enough.

So by showing that your interest is elsewhere (therefore
making her jealous), you are effectively cutting off what she
USED to have with you; the wonderful, happy times she spent
with you, subconsciously, it'll make her *realize* that she
DOES in fact, have feelings for you.

Let it be TOTALLY ON HER at that point to feel it, to think
about it, to come to the conclusion on her own.

So what you can do is to specifically bring up another woman
or a past experience with a girl in great detail.

Example:

The next time you and your chick friend heads to the record
store, pick out a one-of-a-kind bootleg Colbie Caillat CD.

She'll go, "You don't listen to Colbie." And you'll smile and
say, "I know, but this girl I met recently really digs her, and
I know she'd love this."

She'll be impressed by your thoughtfulness, miffed that she
doesn't score suitors like that, and wondering what this
woman's got that makes you treat her so well.

Lay on a week more of the "Oh I always do this kinda stuff,
just I never thought you'd bother" before admitting in a tender,
unguarded moment that sometimes it's being with the wrong person
that truly makes you realize who's right...

Here you're playing yourself up as a prime boyfriend material
AND making her jealous at the same time...

Be extremely DESCRIPTIVE and GRAPHIC when you are relating your
story to her- up to a point where she can actually picture
your story in her mind- almost to the point of 'tasting' it.

Offer the vivid details until you can sense she starts
getting uncomfortable.

Tell her how Kathy's body is killer, talk about how Kathy
has the most flawless features you've ever seen in a girl...

Get her to have an image of how much fun the both of you
had together, the teasing, touching, playing and all.

Tell her...

"I was shocked when Kathy showed up at my office today with
pizza. Gotta love her for that"

Just keep it going whenever you're with her...

"Kathy told me that the best deals are on the East side of
town"

"Kathy said the funniest thing the other day..."

"I was picking up laundry last night and the owner was
wondering where my girlfriend was... I was like who?? The
brunette you were with the other day..." I was like ... what?
Kathy? Oh please... I mean could YOU imagine both Kathy
and me?"

Kathy, Kathy, Kathy...

Do it long, hard and subtle enough, and you're bound to see
how she'll change when she's with you...

You will know if you were successful if:

- She tries to talk bad about the girl/s in some way. (It's
her defensive mechanism).
- She suddenly goes into silence and appears kind of
withdrawn - this is when she is reflecting
- She gets annoyed, agitated, pissed at you for bringing it
up

Another way is to capitalize on a concept called "Social
proof" as it's a very powerful psychological trigger that
can really influence the way people act.

Social Proof is all about human nature and CONDITIONING.

As humans we do things based on what other humans do.

We are more likely to make a decision or take an action
when we have seen PROOF that someone else has also made
the same decision.

The choice becomes that much easier when we realize
people "just like us" (similar demographics) have made
the exact same choices too.

It's like I'm walking to a football game to go to my
seat and 40,000 people in front of me are lined up
going through the gates waiting to enter the stadium.

Instead of analyzing where to go , I'll just follow
along with the crowd.

It's sort of like monkey see, monkey do. We are very,
VERY much influenced by people around us, especially
if we feel people around us are similar to us.

And that's the underlying concept behind social proof.

Same applies here. If you want her to see you
differently as sexual man, rather than just as
someone who's platonic, social proof is a powerful
concept because, if we can subtly "demonstrate" to
women that other women, just like them, are attracted
to us, are interested in us, enjoy hanging out with us
or they simply want us, they are more likely to make
the same decision.

Women feel attraction toward men in the company
of other women!

The fact is that women are VERY competitive creatures.

Especially when it comes to men.

The good news is that if you know how to take advantage
of this, and BRING OUT that sense of COMPETITION in a woman,
you will be able to make a woman feel STRONG feelings of
attracting for you VERY quickly...

And social proofing is one of the most powerful ways to
bring out her 'catty' side AND to inc.rease your sexual
value to her as a man.

The bottom line is that this stuff is POWERFUL,
it triggers ATTRACTION, and it communicates to a woman
that you GET IT, AND it helps you to reach inside and
touch a woman in a way she's always wanted, and in a
way that she responds to powerfully.

I feel it's time that we as men started learning more
about how women work, what they respond to, and
how to TRIGGER those powerful feelings of ATTRACTION in
the woman that YOU desire............................................ ....................

...............................................

Your Friend,

SMH

asteroid_sg@hot

02-12-2010, 03:19 PM

Dragonkeep

02-12-2010, 07:09 PM

If I have more “free” time I will not hesitate to BY one SYT and train her up because with enough free time on my hands, I will be able to reap the full benefits of the BY experience. I shall stop elaborating lest I’m branded a cheapskate. Hey, your resources are limited while the SYT’s desires aren’t. So how do you reconcile that if you don’t exercise “self mastery” over your resources right?

Been away doing the "training". Validating the point that unless you're a natural stud like WB's friend K and his 4-some, an uncle like me has to lay on $eduction n $pending to get my 24yo probationary BY in good fxxking order. Finally got a couple of sextisfying bonks n wild orgasmic screaming fm her ... had some slack at work, so I manufactured an argument last week, blacklisted her for 3 days and then turned the sweet on her, TLC, movies, swanky restaurants, shopping trips, etc etc. Somewhere in the Jekyll n Hyde drama she finally 'got it'.

Co-incidentally, Bro WB's "famous Asian guru" discourse on jealousy does help!! Part of her breaking in was to relate some explicit hardcore tales of how her predecessors in the job had been so compliant (some exaggeration n artistic licence thrown in he heh ...) n what a high sex drive fella I am ...

The main casualty has been sleep ... sheesh, bonked till 0300 h at the last go ... you're right, you gotta have "time" for this sort of thing.

Dragonkeep

02-12-2010, 07:14 PM

Hi bro,

In my personal experience, 1/3 of high end KTV gals who do ST r dead fish, the 2/3 r quite responsive. The majority of my BAO-ees r good to great in bed, otherwise, I would dump them asap.

Cheers!

I still blame you sir (as complained a few posts back) :p, for depleting the pool of SYTs that can make it in bed!!

... no wonder a number of brudders are left (like me) to find the majority of non-dead fishes amongst the MILF population.

fallen.angel

03-12-2010, 10:01 AM

Hi bro,

The book I mentioned is the best. Snowball is worth reading as well. You should also read "How to be Rich" by J. Paul Getty.

You're really very young compared to an ah pek like me. Ur future is limitless.

Yeah, ur kakis r half right. In my personal experience, 1/3 of high end KTV gals who do ST r dead fish, the 2/3 r quite responsive. The majority of my BAO-ees r good to great in bed, otherwise, I would dump them asap.

Cheers!

Nice meeting you bro warbird. You were very fast in grabbing the best SYTs. And when I went back to your room at 8pm, you and your gang already *poof* gone! Must be enjoying your fresh catch in your harem already. You are no ah pek. You are a nuclear-powered, sexually-charged babe manget!

fallen.angel

03-12-2010, 10:02 AM

Hi All Bros

Mostly in such places we tried the gals. But some of the Mammy are pretty n nice too. Also, it will something different too. Wonder any bro tried Mammy ?

Personally, Tried Mammy, Name her M at LV 3rd floor.

A good friend of mine went all the way – he married one! Lucky I didn’t rabba rabba her too much before they got hitched. Hahaha.

fallen.angel

03-12-2010, 10:04 AM

warbird

03-12-2010, 11:26 AM

Been away doing the "training". Validating the point that unless you're a natural stud like WB's friend K and his 4-some, an uncle like me has to lay on $eduction n $pending to get my 24yo probationary BY in good fxxking order. Finally got a couple of sextisfying bonks n wild orgasmic screaming fm her.............................

Co-incidentally, Bro WB's "famous Asian guru" discourse on jealousy does help!! Part of her breaking in was to relate some explicit hardcore tales of how her predecessors in the job had been so compliant (some exaggeration n artistic licence thrown in he heh ...) n what a high sex drive fella I am ...

The main casualty has been sleep............

Hi bro Dragonkeep,

My young fren K is no natural stud, his fren perhaps.

Telling ur current babe abt what ur former GFs hv done for u is a great tactical move, hehehe.

I tell mine if I dun fxk her every other day n if she doesn't give me satisfaction in bed, I'll look for other gals. But once she is getting regular COS from me, she will not say no to just abt anything.;)

Cheers!

I still blame you sir (as complained a few posts back) :p, for depleting the pool of SYTs that can make it in bed!!

... no wonder a number of brudders are left (like me) to find the majority of non-dead fishes amongst the MILF population.

Very funny, hehehe.

Nice meeting you bro warbird. You were very fast in grabbing the best SYTs. And when I went back to your room at 8pm, you and your gang already *poof* gone! Must be enjoying your fresh catch in your harem already. You are no ah pek. You are a nuclear-powered, sexually-charged babe manget!

Hi bro fallen.angel,

You r very good at using hyperbole. I'm just a lao chi ko pek w/ a little spare cash.

It was really my pleasure to hv met u. You should hv called me. Actually more bros n gals joined me n we had to move to a larger rm.

After 930PM, 4 of us adjourned to CI for SH. I didn't discover any new gals of my type n left shortly thereafter.

Cheers!

.................................................. .................................................. .......

Good Morning to all samsters,

Some reflections on gals of my "type."

All the mummies n all my frens n bros still dun understand the type of gal I like. The gals they regard as very attractive n certainly "my type" r, more often than not, not even remotely attractive to me.:confused:

Recently, I hv met some coveted Ang Pai gals at TAM complex: JX, TX n C, etc. They r very hard to book n command premium booking fees, I was told. But I was underwhelmed when I met them even under the dim light of a KTV. My frens were puzzled. But I really couldn't help it.

Unfortunately, attraction is not a choice. Under bright light, if the gal bares her arms n legs, I could tell if she is my type in 3 secs, provided I'm within 2-3 feet.

Firstly, my gal must be youthful (18 being the best, can't go any younger as I'm a resident of Gotham City), and every extra yr detracts from her attractiveness.

Secondly, she must hv the RIGHT head/neck/boobs/torso/butt/limbs/bone proportions. This is perhaps THE most important feature that will turn me on. I prefer natural B/C boobs which r proportionate. I dislike larger boobs unless the gal is tall enuff. I'll accept a nicely shaped A/B boobs. Gals w/ the RIGHT proportions r mostly above 166.

Thirdly, her looks must be attractive to me. This is highly subjective...

Fourthly, everything else being equal, I prefer a gal w/ a Fuzhou accent.

Fifthly, she must hv fair n clear skin.

Sixthly, large/thick or muscular limbs r extremely repulsive to me. I cant run away fast enuff.

A gal must pass these basic requirements before I can even consider voice, chemistry, rapport, personality, education, character, etc.

And then when she is naked, there r other requirements...

If a gal is my type that means she has met my minimum requirements n she is passable. She is at least minimally attractive to me. But it's very hard to find someone who is highly attractive, especially w/o makeup, in broad daylight. I hv not seen one in the last 2-3 yrs here. It's a bit like sighting of The Big Foot, I know they r out there, but I hv not seen one yet, hehehe.:D

Cheers!

Bro WB

chenzong

03-12-2010, 12:03 PM

Wow, you migrate liao ah?
Spreading your love & seeds in the glory of sillypore?

Still in China, DYBJ. Just a different city. And most of those in the forum who know me will know that I am not interested in spreading my love and seeds (but loves a good drink and a pretty girl to accompany any time!).

hangflower

03-12-2010, 02:13 PM

fallen.angel, i will not call you bro cos you just not a man. You say she your baoyee but more like she bao your lanjiao and your lumpa ji! You got use her kotex or tampon bo? 你根本就不是个男人!

weet weet... OlamparRocks can call peepur 不是个男人... ownshelf leh... just like me keyboard cowboy... hahahahaha... Old Lampar Rocks... where are you... drinking Moral"fuckmeasshole"Epito'sPEE?...

fallen.angel

03-12-2010, 03:39 PM

Hi bro fallen.angel,

You r very good at using hyperbole. I'm just a lao chi ko pek w/ a little spare cash.

It was really my pleasure to hv met u. You should hv called me. Actually more bros n gals joined me n we had to move to a larger rm.

After 930PM, 4 of us adjourned to CI for SH. I didn't discover any new gals of my type n left shortly thereafter.

Cheers!

No. I’m not exaggerating. And no no no, the pleasure is mine. Really.

I had the chance to see, first hand, in real life, how the alpha male leaps into action as soon as a SYT walked pass the room. Man, we were in the room and your eyes are so sharp. You were lighting fast – before I knew what happened, you were already out of the room and grabbed the SYT (who was with the Chengdu MMS, ya?). I was like what the fxxk just happened!?!?!!?

I went to the toilet about 8pm, walked past your room, it was overcrowded and lots of chicks crowded around you. You were showing them something on your mobile phone or something and I didn’t want to disturb you. When I came back from my toilet break, your room already cleared out!!! That was so fast. OK, I spent like 10 minutes outside the toilet sian-ing my Shanghainese MMS. So you gotten a bigger room. I thought you had brought home your prey/kill that’s why I didn’t want to call you.

You have very high standards and strict requirements for your gals and you pay top dollar for them. You da man! Cheers!

besafe

03-12-2010, 10:57 PM

Bro ObamaRocks,
You into gay stuff?

MoralEpitome

03-12-2010, 11:39 PM

Bro WB...I will be out of action for several days and have time to read next week...out of all the books you mentioned...which do you reccomend I read and would make a big impact in my life? Thanks, let me know and I will go and buy it over the weekend...

As for all the posts....all I can say is that you guys are really champions...with my meagre pay I just cannot managed between bao-ing a girl and having spare cash to invest....so between the two I rather throw it into investments.....and thanks to the influence of Chairman.... I find myself to be more picky and fussy and refusing to spend on girls I find not worth to....unlike last time I will still sit with her quite a number of times to see how it goes...

MoralEpitome

03-12-2010, 11:41 PM

This hangflower guy is really everywhere! even in this thread??? my god...I hope he is not going to rant about the lambo murcheilago parked at peace centre today....wonder if the owner is here...

MoralEpitome

04-12-2010, 11:26 AM

This hang flower is just a parasite, just ignore its existance and it'll be talking to the wall. As for the lambo owner, he's in level 2

The lambo owner left quite early at about 745 though...it's a white murcheilago...

warbird

04-12-2010, 11:50 AM

weet weet... OlamparRocks can call peepur 不是个男人... ownshelf leh... just like me keyboard cowboy... hahahahaha... Old Lampar Rocks... where are you... drinking Moral"fuckmeasshole"Epito'sPEE?...

Hello Dear Mr/Miss hangflower,

Pls dun get angry for nothing. It's bad for ur health.

Obviously, there is bad blood between u n Vice Chairman n bro ME. I dun know what they hv done to u, but let's forgive n forget, OK?

You should emulate bro fallen.angel who has a "big heart" n has accepted my criticisms n those of others n thus hv earned my respect.

Cheers!

No. I’m not exaggerating. And no no no, the pleasure is mine. Really.

I had the chance to see.....Man, we were in the room and your eyes are so sharp. You were lighting fast – before I knew what happened, you were already out of the room and grabbed the SYT................I went to the toilet about 8pm, walked past your room, it was overcrowded and lots of chicks crowded around you. You were showing them something on your mobile phone or something and I didn’t want to disturb you.....

Hi bro fallen.angel,

You mean I moved quite fast for an ah pek, hehehe.

You should join me in my future outings.

Actually, I only had one BAO-ee (MY) w/ me that nite. There was was an old gal who sat w/ another bro n the other was a new gal. MY was showing her new IPhone4 to me. I only hv a cheap n old Nokia.:(

I can see that u r a confident n happy man n u choose to be a nice guy. Keep it up!

Cheers!

Sorry ley, wake up late, fucking your arse the whole of last nite was way too tiring for me, even though we used the bamboo to add, still can't fit your super loose ARSEHOLE. Better go back to army camp get the log used for logPT, think that should be just nice to fit your sorry ass hor

Relax, Vice Chairman. You should not dignify him/her by replying to his/her vulgar attacks.

[QUOTE=MoralEpitome;5461210]Bro WB...I will be out of action for several days and have time to read next week...out of all the books you mentioned...which do you reccomend I read and would make a big impact in my life? Thanks, let me know and I will go and buy it over the weekend...

As for all the posts....all I can say is that you guys are really champions...with my meagre pay I just cannot managed between bao-ing a girl and having spare cash to invest....so between the two I rather throw it into investments.....and thanks to the influence of Chairman.... [QUOTE]

Hi bro ME,

I assume that u hv read The Intelligent Investor, then u should read The Making of an American Capitalist. Download it. The book by J. Paul Getty is very good. Do u know how to calculate the intrinsic value of a company? Get a book on stock valuation.

BTW, BY-ing more than one gal is too time consuming...they call for little things...I need to slow down to give myself some personal space n free time.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

04-12-2010, 02:46 PM

Hello Dear Mr/Miss hangflower,

Pls dun get angry for nothing. It's bad for ur health.

Obviously, there is bad blood between u n Vice Chairman n bro ME. I dun know what they hv done to u, but let's forgive n forget, OK?

You should emulate bro fallen.angel who has a "big heart" n has accepted my criticisms n those of others n thus hv earned my respect.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=MoralEpitome;5461210]Bro WB...I will be out of action for several days and have time to read next week...out of all the books you mentioned...which do you reccomend I read and would make a big impact in my life? Thanks, let me know and I will go and buy it over the weekend...

As for all the posts....all I can say is that you guys are really champions...with my meagre pay I just cannot managed between bao-ing a girl and having spare cash to invest....so between the two I rather throw it into investments.....and thanks to the influence of Chairman.... [QUOTE]

Hi bro ME,

I assume that u hv read The Intelligent Investor, then u should read The Making of an American Capitalist. Download it. The book by J. Paul Getty is very good. Do u know how to calculate the intrinsic value of a company? Get a book on stock valuation.

BTW, BY-ing more than one gal is too time consuming...they call for little things...I need to slow down to give myself some personal space n free time.

Cheers!

Bro WB

I will be going town to buy one of the books mentioned later...thanks for your recommendations....I am also going to accumulate a somewhat penny stock because it is trading at 60% of it NAV....wondering how much to risk on it though....I tend to be very risk averse and in fact only started investing more in the past two years as I had some bad experiences during the dotcom burst while I was studying at nus which I lost almost the entire capital my dad gave me....previously I only put my money in FD or aka CDs in US....which earned me only a few miserable percentage points.....

And I have no bad blood with this hangflower guy and I don't know him....he started bladdering about other people and I just chided him and he turned his attention on me....now he is aiming at Obama....not worth getting angry over him....btw I received an SMS from 2200 from President Obama...I wonder how did you do that???

Loving_Dickhead

04-12-2010, 02:49 PM

The lambo owner left quite early at about 745 though...it's a white murcheilago...

At Macau possibly? :D Then again, it may be a pink hello kitty Suzuki? You will never know.

.

MoralEpitome

04-12-2010, 02:58 PM

At Macau possibly? :D Then again, it may be a pink hello kitty Suzuki? You will never know.

.

hmm...that lambo guy did not look like gila or seow ley....but it was quite dark and I didn't wear specs...

Loving_Dickhead

04-12-2010, 03:07 PM

hmm...that lambo guy did not look like gila or seow ley....but it was quite dark and I didn't wear specs...

I saw a black Farrari F430 in Macau's carpark. Do not know which big towkay owns it. No other cars come close to it! Maybe it belongs to one of the big hangers last night.

FYI, I just bought a Ch***y QQ, it really kills kills. :p I had it painted lumi-green!

Best
LDH :D

.

Loving_Dickhead

04-12-2010, 03:17 PM

MoralEpitome

04-12-2010, 03:42 PM

I saw a black Farrari F430 in Macau's carpark. Do not know which big towkay owns it. No other cars come close to it! Maybe it belongs to one of the big hangers last night.

FYI, I just bought a Ch***y QQ, it really kills kills. :p I had it painted lumi-green!

Best
LDH :D

.

I have a Chery QQ too...when I go and fetch PRC girls I tell them this is made in China and they all very proud to sit in it!!!....

DO_YOU_BJ

04-12-2010, 05:25 PM

Ok ok, i get the hint. I will go get me a cherry QQ pronto

vellamoose

04-12-2010, 06:37 PM

QQ is the pick up chick mobile now? I am so confused

MoralEpitome

04-12-2010, 08:15 PM

QQ is the pick up chick mobile now? I am so confused

Can get a Volvo too...also owned by Geely....

Yup QQ is a chick magnet now....my prc chick even ask me drive her to East Coast Park to make out in the QQ! She is proud of the fact I drive a Made in China Car and Have a Made in China chick!

besafe

04-12-2010, 08:28 PM

Loving_Dickhead

04-12-2010, 08:44 PM

Can get a Volvo too...also owned by Geely....

Yup QQ is a chick magnet now....my prc chick even ask me drive her to East Coast Park to make out in the QQ! She is proud of the fact I drive a Made in China Car and Have a Made in China chick!

QQ is, no doubts about it, the CHICK car of the year! It is also coincidentally the best internet chat software you can find. Both are highly appealing to PRC chicks or chickens alike. :D

Have fun bro, it will be a good break.

Cheers,
LDH :)

.

Loving_Dickhead

04-12-2010, 08:45 PM

Ok ok, i get the hint. I will go get me a cherry QQ pronto

Thought your favorite is CHERRY the singer at DC - hahahaha :p

Best
LDH :D

.

MoralEpitome

05-12-2010, 01:01 PM

Bro.. You are hilarious !!!
Cheers and have a great sabbathical.

I will be out of action this wed thur fri sat....but unfortunately will have alot of time to surf sammyboy...let me gather jokes and come here to entertain you guys...

Btw I am at chapter 4 of the Paul Getty book now thanks to bro WB's recommendation....my sunday will be spent reading the book...

warbird

05-12-2010, 02:14 PM

..........................................
And I have no bad blood with this hangflower guy and I don't know him....he started bladdering about other people and I just chided him and he turned his attention on me....now he is aiming at Obama....not worth getting angry over him....btw I received an SMS from 2200 from President Obama...I wonder how did you do that???

Hi bro ME,

Good luck to ur investments. Make lots of money in a few yrs n BY 25-30 gals/women of ur choice!! That is only half the no of women BY-ed by a local tycoon in the early 60s.

Could Vice Chairman n Chairman be identical twins??

Cheers!

Indeed, bro FallenAngel has gotten my respect as well. Cerntainly not this stalker and loser Hangflower.

Well bro WB, long time no cheong with you too. Seems like you are doing very well and going strong in the BY matters. You are the champion BY king and we should do a get together soon. I will be down to DC tonight for SH, do let me know if you are interested.....

Hi bro LDH,

I would love to cheong w/ u anytime.

I'm no BY king as I'm still very new to this game.

Unfortunately, yesterday I was very busy from 12 noon until 1030PM. I attended a luncheon meeting, then had to meet a BAO-ee in our new place, followed by dinner w/ 2 gals, etc.

Pls call me again. Would like to intro a new bro to u guys as he is also very experienced n successful in BY-ing.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good Afternoon!

Another craze w/ PRC gals is IPhone4 16G or 32G. Almost every PRC gal I know either has one or is dying to get one.:confused:

A PRC gal in Jakarta flew to a small island B near SG n spent the nite w/ me, in exchange for an IPhone4 which I bought here. She is a tall SYT who agreed to be BY-ed by me when she was here on visitor pass 4-5 months ago but the deal wasn't consummated bcos she got the flu on the day we were to start our RS. She was pissed off bcos I wanted to postpone BY for 6 days. She rejected my subsequent higher offers! When her student visa was rejected, she ended up in 金莎in Jakarta. Was it worth the trip? Yes!! She will be coming in Jan on a singer permit.

A pretty Hubei SYT, a supposedly non-WL living in SZ, whom I hv never met n w/ whom I hv done video call also asks me abt the phone. It's much more expensive in China!?? She wants me to bring one to her when I visit HK. She will transfer money to me in SG to buy it. What if I decide to keep the money? Perhaps she is very confident that I can never resist her beautiful pussy.

BTW, a former BAO-ee, also in Jakarta, called me the other n said her singer permit was approved! She asked if I was going to keep her as before. I was noncommittal as I really couldn't handle more than 2 gals at one time. She was quite pissed off but I know she will agree to ST arrangement. She has also mentioned getting THE PHONE!

Cheers n stay Alpha,

Bro WB

warbird

05-12-2010, 02:27 PM

I will be out of action this wed thur fri sat....but unfortunately will have alot of time to surf sammyboy...let me gather jokes and come here to entertain you guys...

Btw I am at chapter 4 of the Paul Getty book now thanks to bro WB's recommendation....my sunday will be spent reading the book...

Hi bro ME,

Good for u! The book was essentially a compilation of articles written by the Oxford-educated American billionaire himself for Playboy magazine.

Getty was named by Fortune as the richest man in the world in 1957. Unlike Bill Gates n Warren Buffett, he was a big spender, lived in a castle in the UK in later life n had tasted the most beautiful pussies.

He was a great investor n a great businessman.

He should be our role model.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

05-12-2010, 06:34 PM

Hi bro ME,

Good for u! The book was essentially a compilation of articles written by the Oxford-educated American billionaire himself for Playboy magazine.

Getty was named by Fortune as the richest man in the world in 1957. Unlike Bill Gates n Warren Buffett, he was a big spender, lived in a castle in the UK in later life n had tasted the most beautiful pussies.

He was a great investor n a great businessman.

He should be our role model.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Yes it is a good book. Although written more than half a century before, the concepts are still relevant today. However, he mentioned about watching costs when starting out and going to ktvs is probably too costly for me so I should retire from ktvs first until I am financially free. The part about habits is also funny, i wanted to find a ST F today as it was a habit for me the past months but after reading it I decided not to! Halfway reading though the book, a very esteem Chairman called me regarding some matter and also updated me on some hilarious stuffs....I apologize i have to cut the conversation short as I needed to go to the toilet to pee!

Anyway my takeaways from the book which I am halfway though is: invest in business, take calculated risks, be hands-on in your business, and watch your costs and cultivate the right habits....applying that to the ktv scene, i will watch my costs and go for value for money places and value for money girls...hahaha....oh and add one last point...must be as sharp and ruthless as Chairman! hahahaha

vellamoose

05-12-2010, 10:06 PM

must be as sharp and ruthless as Chairman! hahahaha

Senior bro, i have been seeing this chairman mentioned many times but when i made a search, there's no such member. Who is this chairman everyone seems to be talking about?

warbird

06-12-2010, 11:47 AM

Yes it is a good book. .......However, he mentioned about watching costs when starting out and going to ktvs is probably too costly for me ....i wanted to find a ST F today as it was a habit for me the past months but after reading it I decided not to! Halfway reading though the book, a very esteem Chairman called me regarding some matter...
Anyway my takeaways from the book which I am halfway though is: invest in business, take calculated risks, be hands-on in your business, and watch your costs and cultivate the right habits....applying that to the ktv scene, i will watch my costs and go for value for money places and value for money girls.....must be as sharp and ruthless as Chairman! hahaha

Hi bro ME,

It's a timeless book...I better read it yet again.

Mr. Chairman also called around 5PM as I was reversing my car into a very tight lot w/ concrete wall on both sides in the basement of a certain condo in River Valley area. After getting my car 3/4 in, I realized it was a tight squeeze n I wont be able to get out!

Cheers!

Senior bro, i have been seeing this chairman mentioned many times but when i made a search, there's no such member. Who is this chairman everyone seems to be talking about?

Mr. chairman is just a nick I created for a certain most esteemed bro who is also known as The International Man of Mystery aka Mr. Austin.

Cheers!

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Good Morning!

I was in a tight squeeze in the parking lot yesterday when Mr. Chairman called. Talk abt timing. I told him I was parking my car n requested that he call again in 10 mins, he was surprised n asked, how long will u take to park a car? Well, the spot was so tight...as tight n as snug as MY's cunt!;) I had to move out n eventually found a slightly larger visitor's lot.

I then walked briskly to a nearby old shop houses n climbed some steps to the rented master bedroom of MY, my new gal. She was lying in bed, half naked...watching Chinese TV serials.

Then Mr. Chairman called...told me some interesting stuff.

Yes, Mr. Chairman is very sharp n can be ruthless...

I'm also ruthless n tough when dealing w/ adversaries. With my gals, I'm merely assertive. When MY requested that I brought her a bowl of porridge on my way there, I didn't say no.

I helped her move in yesterday n I stayed until quite late. I could see that she looked quite tired bcos she woke up unusually early due to very bright sunlight in the AM (the window curtains were very flimsy). She normally watches TV serials into the wee hrs...she said she would try to paste some papers on the window when she felt stronger.

The rm looked spic n span n very livable. She just mopped the fl this PM....

Then she said, not tonite, dear. Seeing her fair fair body n long long thighs/legs n her big boobs...my didi already half erect. Buay tahan! I dun take NO for an answer. I just calmly replied that u mean I hv to find other gals? She looked at me n said, OK leh, if u really want it, go take a shower, I'll come. The best feature of this Master rm is a very spacious n clean shower rm...

To cut a long story short, despite her extreme fatigue, she came n came n came...n had screaming COS...her 3rd since we began our RS less than a wk ago. Afterward，she cooed that 我的水都流光了！despite the fact that she didn't squirt. She is one of 2 most orgasmic gals I hv ever had in my life. Perhaps I'm getting better in my old age. :D

She fell into a deep slumber soon after. My legs were wobbly after a long sexsion, but I managed to descend slowing down some steep steps, w/ my hands clinging to the rails. There were mostly restaurants in the row of shop houses downstairs. As I walked towards one, I was greeted by someone who called Bro WB! He was a young handsome man (bro MillerV I think) who joined one of my outings only 3 days ago. He lived around the area. SG is really too small!

I eat Da Bao in the rm. MY was still deep asleep. I left later. At midnight she called n said she felt better.

I now believe that hving a private place w/ ur BAO-ee is most essential as the experience is totally different from a hotel rm.

Also, keeping more than a gal makes sense as one may be tired, has visit from her big aunt or is sick, etc.

Finally, a man should be dominant n hv more power in the RS, but not so much power that the gal becomes a sex slave, which would be unattractive after a while.

Cheers n stay Alpha,

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

06-12-2010, 11:58 AM

Senior bro, i have been seeing this chairman mentioned many times but when i made a search, there's no such member. Who is this chairman everyone seems to be talking about?

If he is so easily found then he won't be chairman leow...he's so up there that I only had the chance to see him in person briefly once....he's the mentor to manies and a very sharp and smart man....and I am not senior hor...I am just a small pandawan learning the ways of the force....

MoralEpitome

06-12-2010, 12:09 PM

Hi bro ME,

It's a timeless book...I better read it yet again.

Mr. Chairman also called around 5PM as I was reversing my car into a very tight lot w/ concrete wall on both sides in the basement of a certain condo in River Valley area. After getting my car 3/4 in, I realized it was a tight squeeze n I wont be able to get out!

Cheers!

Mr. chairman is just a nick I created for a certain most esteemed bro who is also known as The International Man of Mystery aka Mr. Austin.

Cheers!

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Good Morning!

I was in a tight squeeze in the parking lot yesterday when Mr. Chairman called. Talk abt timing. I told him I was parking my car n requested that he call again in 10 mins, he was surprised n asked, how long will u take to park a car? Well, the spot was so tight...as tight n as snug as MY's cunt!;) I had to move out n eventually found a slightly larger visitor's lot.

I then walked briskly to a nearby old shop houses n climbed some steps to the rented master bedroom of MY, my new gal. She was lying in bed, half naked...watching Chinese TV serials.

Then Mr. Chairman called...told me some interesting stuff.

Yes, Mr. Chairman is very sharp n can be ruthless...

I'm also ruthless n tough when dealing w/ adversaries. With my gals, I'm merely assertive. When MY requested that I brought her a bowl of porridge on my way there, I didn't say no.

I helped her move in yesterday n I stayed until quite late. I could see that she looked quite tired bcos she woke up unusually early due to very bright sunlight in the AM (the window curtains were very flimsy). She normally watches TV serials into the wee hrs...she said she would try to paste some papers on the window when she felt stronger.

The rm looked spic n span n very livable. She just mopped the fl this PM....

Then she said, not tonite, dear. Seeing her fair fair body n long long thighs/legs n her big boobs...my didi already half erect. Buay tahan! I dun take NO for an answer. I just calmly replied that u mean I hv to find other gals? She looked at me n said, OK leh, if u really want it, go take a shower, I'll come. The best feature of this Master rm is a very spacious n clean shower rm...

To cut a long story short, despite her extreme fatigue, she came n came n came...n had screaming COS...her 3rd since we began our RS less than a wk ago. Afterward，she cooed that 我的水都流光了！despite the fact that she didn't squirt. She is one of 2 most orgasmic gals I hv ever had in my life. Perhaps I'm getting better in my old age. :D

She fell into a deep slumber soon after. My legs were wobbly after a long sexsion, but I managed to descend slowing down some steep steps, w/ my hands clinging to the rails. There were mostly restaurants in the row of shop houses downstairs. As I walked towards one, I was greeted by someone who called Bro WB! He was a young handsome man (bro MillerV I think) who joined one of my outings only 3 days ago. He lived around the area. SG is really too small!

I eat Da Bao in the rm. MY was still deep asleep. I left later. At midnight she called n said she felt better.

I now believe that hving a private place w/ ur BAO-ee is most essential as the experience is totally different from a hotel rm.

Also, keeping more than a gal makes sense as one may be tired, has visit from her big aunt or is sick, etc.

Finally, a man should be dominant n hv more power in the RS, but not so much power that the gal becomes a sex slave, which would be unattractive after a while.

Cheers n stay Alpha,

Bro WB

Yup a great book...abit different from the other books I have read...probably a timeless classic in the same vein as Acres of Diamond and Think and Grow Rich.....learned more about management in this book compared to the rest.....reading is one thing...but execution is the hard part which I will have to apply and practice...

Yes Chairman is interesting and insightful and full of zest which I admire....I had to go to the toilet after chatting with him 1 hour...something I hardly do on the phone now...

fallen.angel

07-12-2010, 09:01 AM

Hi bro fallen.angel,

You mean I moved quite fast for an ah pek, hehehe.

You should join me in my future outings.

Actually, I only had one BAO-ee (MY) w/ me that nite. There was was an old gal who sat w/ another bro n the other was a new gal. MY was showing her new IPhone4 to me. I only hv a cheap n old Nokia.:(

I can see that u r a confident n happy man n u choose to be a nice guy. Keep it up!

Cheers!

Bro WB

Wow, only 1 weekend and this thread has moved so fast!

Bro warbird, your reaction is faster than mine – I’m the ah pek.

OK, enough exchange of pleasantries. A happy man? That’s an understatement. I was elated. After all, I was meeting the legendary BY King! And yes yes yes! Please invite me to your future outings. I’ll be quite busy through the rest of the year but I’ll definitely not want to miss the world to meet and have fun with you. There’s so much to learn from you. Though I don’t know what COS stands for, I suspect it has to do with multiple Os – can’t wait to learn a few tips from you!

Speaking of iPhones, almost all GL WLs have them, I’ve even seen waiters serving at seminars using them, so its not that big a deal. Its what’s in the phone and how you make use of it that’s important. I have a neat little trick on my iPhone4 which I’ll show you the next time. Guaranteed to get the gal in no time!

Btw, I firmly believe that being nice and being assertive/go-getter are not mutually exclusive.

fallen.angel

07-12-2010, 10:23 AM

Indeed, bro FallenAngel has gotten my respect as well. Cerntainly not this stalker and loser Hangflower.

Well bro WB, long time no cheong with you too. Seems like you are doing very well and going strong in the BY matters. You are the champion BY king and we should do a get together soon. I will be down to DC tonight for SH, do let me know if you are interested.

Cheers,
LDH :D

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Dear Bro LDH,

你言重了。I'm just an ordinary guy learning the ropes from people like you, WB and DYBJ. You guys are the gurus and my teachers

warbird

07-12-2010, 12:11 PM

Yup a great book...abit different from the other books I have read...probably a timeless classic...eading is one thing...but execution is the hard part which I will have to apply and practice...

Yes Chairman is interesting and insightful and full of zest......

IMHO, one of the most useful books ever written...

Yes, knowing n doing r different. Doing n being r different yet.

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Bro warbird, your reaction is faster than mine – I’m the ah pek.

.....A happy man? That’s an understatement. I was elated. After all, I was meeting the legendary BY King! And yes yes yes! Please invite me to your future outings. I’ll be quite busy through the rest of the year........Though I don’t know what COS stands for, I suspect it has to do with multiple Os – can’t wait to learn a few tips from you!

Speaking of iPhones, almost all GL WLs have them, I’ve even seen waiters serving at seminars using them, so its not that big a deal. Its what’s in the phone and how you make use of it that’s important. I have a neat little trick on my iPhone4 which I’ll show you the next time. Guaranteed to get the gal in no time!

Btw, I firmly believe that being nice and being assertive/go-getter are not mutually exclusive.

Hi bro fallen.angel,

I hv much to learn from all the esteemed bros here. You're a young, confident n virile man.

Besides Mr. Chairman, there is another bro who is a very experienced n successful master in BY-ing. He takes his time n the gal has to prove her worth before he would consider BY-ing.

I'm the exact opposite. If I see a gal who is really my type, I can't wait to bonk her. No ST, OK, I'll then make an offer to BY her, often in our 1st ever meeting. Surprisingly, 80-90% of them would say yes. Fortunately for me, the only reason that has prevented me from BY-ing too many gals is the fact that there r really very few gals of my type out there. I attach great importance to youthfulness n certain body/limb proportions. I used to limit myself to gals >167, but now is also interested in those who r <160. But she must be young (18-21) n very cute...

The experienced bro has told me: If u start BY-ing a gal when u hardly know her, it's too transactional n it'll never last.

He is right! I'll change, take my time to know n establish rapport w/ the gal...

Cheers!

Bro WB

grouchycabi

07-12-2010, 02:44 PM

DO_YOU_BJ

07-12-2010, 03:08 PM

fallen.angel

07-12-2010, 04:43 PM

Hi bro fallen.angel,

I hv much to learn from all the esteemed bros here. You're a young, confident n virile man.

Besides Mr. Chairman, there is another bro who is a very experienced n successful master in BY-ing. He takes his time n the gal has to prove her worth before he would consider BY-ing.

I'm the exact opposite. If I see a gal who is really my type, I can't wait to bonk her. No ST, OK, I'll then make an offer to BY her, often in our 1st ever meeting. Surprisingly, 80-90% of them would say yes. Fortunately for me, the only reason that has prevented me from BY-ing too many gals is the fact that there r really very few gals of my type out there. I attach great importance to youthfulness n certain body/limb proportions. I used to limit myself to gals >167, but now is also interested in those who r <160. But she must be young (18-21) n very cute...

The experienced bro has told me: If u start BY-ing a gal when u hardly know her, it's too transactional n it'll never last.

He is right! I'll change, take my time to know n establish rapport w/ the gal...

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro warbird,

I am younger than you, yes, but I’m definitely not young. Not when I can burn my army backpack and stuff already. I must attribute my youthfulness to the ritual know as 采阴补阳. Hahaha, just joking.

I totally agree with the experienced bro that you have to go slow. I do exactly that. I prefer to take it slow because for some weird reasons unbeknownst, it makes the eventual sex just so much more orgasmic. Maybe because enough time is given to know each other better, inhabitations shed and any transactional notion erased.

fallen.angel

07-12-2010, 04:44 PM

Dear esteemed Sifus

I went to Bugis Junction's Kinokuniya to look for the two books recommended here. Found only the Intelligent Investor. I came across this book "The winning investment habits of Warren Buffet and George Soros" and found it interesting. Not sure if the Sifus here have any comments on it. I intend to change my bad habits into good ones, and make more money so that I can be allowed to follow the Sifus to learn. Now I am just a lowly salaried worker who has yet to step into any of the KTVs mentioned here. I know, it's that bad! :-)

Hahaha, I have to agree with Bro DYBJ! Why is not having stepped into these KTVs bad? Seriously, if you are not even a tenth as rich as the shifus here – stay far far away! These KTV MMs can suck you dry faster than you can get a hard on. You should work hard, accumulate and grow your wealth first. When you become successful in what you do and full of confidence, the gals will flock to you.

Investing is a long term commitment which you won’t see results in the short term. It needs time to grow and reap profits but money thrown to KTV MMs cannot wait.

My friend has always toyed with the idea of buying a HDB flat (joint name with me) so that we can bring our gals/FBs there for some privacy. With the added benefit of capital appreciation. I just procrastinated, citing excuses like a lot of paper trails, bank loan statements etc etc to cover. Now, the rules of owing a HDB flat has tighten so that’s out of the question. We already have our own investment properties so we can’t buy a HDB flat without having to sell all of them. We even explored the idea of renting a place just purely for our sexcapdes. I know rich guys have entire Sentosa Cove bungalows empty and use them just for their parties. Any bros with any experiences or ideas.

My friend runs a professional firm, has a few FH condo and landed property in D10 & D11 and a family-run F&B chain – a cash cow. I always tease him for being such a cheapskate because every time he goes GL, he only go for the GL80. Every time I ask for GL150 and ask him to take the GL150 because I would feel bad if he has to wait for me to finish my business. He never relented despite all my chiding. Well, he told me he has to watch his spending because his OC may suspect, although we guys keep separate bank accounts which we don’t show our OCs. Still, I agree with him that we should watch how we spend.

BY takes a lot of time too. That extra time has got to come from your working hours. So unless you are financial free like Bro WB and maybe many of the bros here (I don’t know cos I’ve not met any of you) then this game is not for you.