Hanging Flowers Joints

[myebook2008]

A few people mentioned XianZi, Huang Chao. They are located in these dark buildings, so didn't think to visit. Maybe one day will drop by.

Above 贵都, there is 夜香港, skill of the singers really no so good. So better not to go there.

In Cuppage Plaza, 6th flr, there is Fuji. Heard it is the same owner of 蓝天. Very quiet, you can enjoy singing in their KTV rooms. The singers are actually quite good, similar to BaiDu. Waitress is very friendly.

[myebook2008]

Last month at 贵都, got rich man from China hanging $100K for a gal's farewell show. A few time over there. And during 排排唱, many 1K flowers. Like the name, 贵. But the singers are really good, quite tall, quite skilled. Didn't see many bros to mention this place in the thread.

[Smeagol]

there is 夜香港, skill of the singers really no so good. So better not to go there.
.

What skill?? Singing or Bedroom skills :D

Like the name, 贵. But the singers are really good, quite tall, quite skilled. Didn't see many bros to mention this place in the thread.

That joint is way out of our league...... mention also boh kangtau:(

[ONEON]

贵都 must hang $500 onwards then got power..... If hang $100, dun bother because it will seem very small here, and the girl come over a short while only,

If hang $100 elsewhere, then the girl sit long long.

[K9696]

The last time I stepped into HC was January when my singer did her last show. I got all my HC news from Baidu Singers. As you know, Baidu boss used to be a share holder of HC. So the some of the big clients move between these 2 joint. Singers being singers... gossip big time. Few cases of HC singers came over to Baidu to cat fight..... hair pulled, kicks and slaps ha ha ha. :D

wah, cat fight,,, among singers? really $$$$$$$$ make them c their thru
colour...whahahahaha'
bro.. thk.. really gd 1..
lately BD change quite no of new singers.. but not so nice le..
Went 60's.. new batch also cannot le...:(

[K9696]

Last night went to 美歌坊 around 11pm, Sound System is not so ideal, yes, no smoke because it is Hotel area. Customers are quite young. Two gals are my Club 188 gal's friend.

To be frank, it is quite cold, everyone to sit in a big chair, not much fun. Do not think too much, I just think to sit together, at least shake hands when talking to each other, that will make the customer more comfortable. And the waitress is not so helpful. Do not even to pour tea for me, and I want to hang flower for these two gals, I have to 'shout' on them. Quite terrible, so decide to left after half hr. So not recommend to go.
.

The place lot of 头家.. i go 2 enjoy few of singers singing, nothing else..
I am not their league also, so no flower hanging,.. just lim green tea..:D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Last month at 贵都, got rich man from China hanging $100K for a gal's farewell show. A few time over there. And during 排排唱, many 1K flowers. Like the name, 贵. But the singers are really good, quite tall, quite skilled. Didn't see many bros to mention this place in the thread.

There's a thread on Dynasty Classic, go check it out.
Also, such $$$ hanging, is really nothin new over there at DC

[otur]

That joint is way out of our league...... mention also boh kangtau:(

so where is the kang tao? :D

[Smeagol]

贵都 must hang $500 onwards then got power.....

IMHO at Dynasty.....$500 also not enuff power :o

so where is the kang tao? :D

u r the "最好是人家挂皇冠，我到吧台就拿200买场走人" and you asking me about kang tao???:p

[K9696]

IMHO at Dynasty.....$500 also not enuff power :o



u r the "最好是人家挂皇冠，我到吧台就拿200买场走人" and you asking me about kang tao???:p

bro. so early log in,, came bk fr 9 x 9 - is it,,,:D
you mention.. screwing,,,,,some1... haha;)

[QQ Lover]

贵都 must hang $500 onwards then got power..... If hang $100, dun bother because it will seem very small here, and the girl come over a short while only,

If hang $100 elsewhere, then the girl sit long long.
Last nite 贵都 there are 2 $5000, and many $1000s. Only those can't make it get $100 as 可怜花

[Smeagol]

bro. so early log in,, came bk fr 9 x 9 - is it,,,:D
you mention.. screwing,,,,,some1... haha;)

Wah...... don't remember everything I wrote leh??!!! a friend jio 5 singers go supper.... I tag along free loader...ha ha ha

Nope. no 9x9 last night, tired and not in a mood....huh huh

But surely I will have her pussy one nite :p

[myebook2008]

Last night went to XZ, girls are very young and pretty, but too many people, so decided to go HC. Very empty, downstairs no customer, upstairs 1 or 2. Heard XZ open, no biz for HC.

I like such place not so crowd and noisy. So decided to stay, talked to a girl 朵朵. Bit tired, need to rest for at least 1 week.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

a friend jio 5 singers go supper.... I tag along free loader...ha ha ha

It was 6 dude not 5

[K9696]

It was 6 dude not 5

大哥，他的“lobang" you also know... 佩服 佩服。。:D
Any chance to meet?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

大哥，他的“lobang" you also know... 佩服 佩服。。:D
Any chance to meet?

Who, him or his lobang???

[K9696]

Who, him or his lobang???

haha.. his lobang I can't take la, n no enuff strength to carry la..

[roamersg]

Last night went to XZ, girls are very young and pretty, but too many people, so decided to go HC. Very empty, downstairs no customer, upstairs 1 or 2. Heard XZ open, no biz for HC.

This is Friday nite? Wow, surprises me, though I know Sat nite HC very dead usually. Singers at XZ told me mostly the old-timers, but they show up more often b/c of opening week. The week I hit both saw big flowers at both, mine got lost once again amongst all the fireworks! Good to know, maybe I return HC though surely still too many 大客 there even if some nites they don't show up.


美歌坊 => Allson hotel 2nd floor
蓝天 => Old building beside Liang Court
188 => Balestial Plaze (I think)

Yes Club 188 at Balestier Point. Was told at this place many singers there are re-treads, supported by bf from last 6mos visa, so if anyone looking for action from a cute singer there, find out if in sillypore before

For DC, person to ask is ManSGP, he knows all at DC, very well-connected with the singers! If you go early weekday, then can hang 100, 200 and singer will spend time with you b/c many big spenders not there, but doubt she will even let you treat her for dinner

[我回來了]

For DC, person to ask is ManSGP, he knows all at DC, very well-connected with the singers! If you go early weekday, then can hang 100, 200 and singer will spend time with you b/c many big spenders not there, but doubt she will even let you treat her for dinner
ManSGP I think is the sound system guy ?

[mansgp]

For DC, person to ask is ManSGP, he knows all at DC, very well-connected with the singers! If you go early weekday, then can hang 100, 200 and singer will spend time with you b/c many big spenders not there, but doubt she will even let you treat her for dinner

Been travelling around SEA for my new work commitment during the past few months and had not visited DC for probably 4-5 months. I'm now probably the most ill-informed person amongst patrons of DC. Seems like nobody is divulging individual singer's juicy gossips. Maybe that's a good thing to these singers coz the last I heard from some frens still chionging there that I am being "hunted" by the singers for saying too much here. I think so too so that's why I retire from both DC and this thread for the past few months.

ManSGP I think is the sound system guy ?

Nice try. Maybe I am 简单老师, or maybe I am Jeffrey, or maybe I am 小胖. Keep guessing.

[saytoomuch]

I like such place not so crowd and noisy. So decided to stay, talked to a girl 朵朵. Bit tired, need to rest for at least 1 week.

Me too.

Checked out XZ again.
Most of the cinema chairs at the rim deserted.
Some customers at left hand side sofa area, one bigtimerparty in central area sofa.
The other 3 empty sofas no customers seating, most likely "reserved".
i.e. until you say you want to throw $$$.

Singers not so great.

Their strategy may backfire.

[saytoomuch]

....because big client also have other HFJ boss/singer wanting to entice them over. Small player though many to take care but when big fella suddenly disappear, he still got 7~9 of the small fella coming back. Also 10 small fella is likely to open more bottles than 1 big fella, and 10 small fella also give more 人气 to the place. This type of bosses I like.



ya lor,
The bigtimer may go elsewhere, then....who to turn to

By that time all small timers also gone because the KTV operator offended them by his dismissive attitude when bigtimer was still around actively supporting.

[roamersg]

Seems like nobody is divulging individual singer's juicy gossips. Maybe that's a good thing to these singers coz the last I heard from some frens still chionging there that I am being "hunted" by the singers for saying too much here. I think so too so that's why I retire from both DC and this thread for the past few months.

Haha, sorry you are so hunted, your insights certainly saved me some money there! This year I have only seen DC's singers after KTV, not sit in hall or bar for long time myself. Although when I go XZ it's also just to relax over a few beers vs downing whiskey with MMS at KTVs, I know it's fruitless to chase their singers


Checked out XZ again.
Most of the cinema chairs at the rim deserted.
Singers not so great.


Always a Q of one's man's meat, but I do think lately XZ has several cute singers, unless you are referring actually to their singing! In terms of bar seats (cinema chairs), I like them b/c they are soft comfortable seats in contrast to HC and DC, and you get really good view of the chio singers who sit with big customers in the centre!

[Firestarter]

Nowadays I find a lot of the smaller joints mushrooming around the island more fun and cost effective.

Get to avoid all the big spenders and sometimes can find gems among the singers at these small joints. If lucky, the quality of girls can match the bigger joints' with less attitude too. Their expectation for flowers also not so high and get less competition for their attention.

End of the day, still from the same source and bounded by the same unreasonable contracts. These girls are generally forced to work everyday and appreciate good customers a lot more than bigger joints.

:)

[K9696]

Nowadays I find a lot of the smaller joints mushrooming around the island more fun and cost effective.

Get to avoid all the big spenders and sometimes can find gems among the singers at these small joints. If lucky, the quality of girls can match the bigger joints' with less attitude too. Their expectation for flowers also not so high and get less competition for their attention.

End of the day, still from the same source and bounded by the same unreasonable contracts. These girls are generally forced to work everyday and appreciate good customers a lot more than bigger joints.

:)

Bro.. which joints is good.. that u can find gems?
Can introduce?:D

[roamersg]

Bro.. which joints is good.. that u can find gems?
Can introduce?:D

I know you know almost all the (at least older) joints, have you tried going back to HK Palace lately? Still has large # singers (30+), including some successful at other joints like DC but had to leave due to argument with boss, but many are leaving cause biz so bad. So means better chance to catch some in need of help! I don't like their dark setup with low ceilings, but will likely make another visit when I can to whether truly many damsels are in distress and need a knight:D

[QQ Lover]

[COLOR="red"]Nice try. Maybe I am 简单老师, or maybe I am Jeffrey, or maybe I am 小胖. Keep guessing
I think you hang around alone sit at the back most of time:D

[K9696]

I know you know almost all the (at least older) joints, have you tried going back to HK Palace lately? Still has large # singers (30+), including some successful at other joints like DC but had to leave due to argument with boss, but many are leaving cause biz so bad. So means better chance to catch some in need of help! I don't like their dark setup with low ceilings, but will likely make another visit when I can to whether truly many damsels are in distress and need a knight:D

yes, recently went to HKPalace, 30+singers, quite chio,, met 1 old friend who ever work in a small joint..came back..haha.. cannot remembered her, but she can recognise me..:D anyway, nice place and cheap place to hang out for the time being.. DC, HC or XZ are not my league - sorry, only go to very
small area to pass time - hoping to get some gems.. :p

[Kranji Boy]

Bro.. which joints is good.. that u can find gems?
Can introduce?:D
Wow Bro , look like u 'cheong' almost all the HFJ in SG ley , can see your posts alot around ley ....Ha Ha ...Every HFJ also got gems la .... U got $, Gems will come to u everywhere la in regardless Big or Small joint la ....

Cheers and Enjoy ....

[myebook2008]

Not really.just like to go different places for fun.

[XiBeiSong]

Bro.. which joints is good.. that u can find gems?
Can introduce?:D


U can try small joints like Yi Nan Wang, Song, Tang, Hua Do, may just find some gems there.

[K9696]

Wow Bro , look like u 'cheong' almost all the HFJ in SG ley , can see your posts alot around ley ....Ha Ha ...Every HFJ also got gems la .... U got $, Gems will come to u everywhere la in regardless Big or Small joint la ....

Cheers and Enjoy ....

Bro.. u r wrong already.. there are more seniors here like, Bro,DUBY, Semagol..etc..
I m here to learn to understand n not get KC...:D

[我回來了]

U can try small joints like Yi Nan Wang, Song, Tang, Hua Do, may just find some gems there.
Where are all these places u suggested ?

[roamersg]

Where are all these places u suggested ?

Ha ha, another man doomed to hunting HFJs! I am also quite curious where. The only one I know is Tang, which is in basement of Adelphi building, across from Funan. Earlier mentioned is Club 188, which is in Balestier Point, around 20 singers there, some cuties, though I suspect each of the cuties already has bf. There's something like GeCheng Gesomething (I forget), very small place on Bencoolan near hotel 81, across from food court, around 12-14 singers, there's 2 in Paradiz Centre on 4th and 5th floors, both a bit dingy but certainly falls in cheaper category! There's also XingGuang / Starlight in Cuppage Plaza, 5th story, around 15-20 singers. Lastly I walked by a small place on Merchant Road (think it was part of Merchant Square), but was w my wife so don't remember name--was too busy listening to her derogatory remark about the 2 singers, one dressed quite suggestively, outside, :eek:.

Can others add some other locations?:)

[Kranji Boy]

Ha ha, another man doomed to hunting HFJs! I am also quite curious where. The only one I know is Tang, which is in basement of Adelphi building, across from Funan. Earlier mentioned is Club 188, which is in Balestier Point, around 20 singers there, some cuties, though I suspect each of the cuties already has bf. There's something like GeCheng Gesomething (I forget), very small place on Bencoolan near hotel 81, across from food court, around 12-14 singers, there's 2 in Paradiz Centre on 4th and 5th floors, both a bit dingy but certainly falls in cheaper category! There's also XingGuang / Starlight in Cuppage Plaza, 5th story, around 15-20 singers. Lastly I walked by a small place on Merchant Road (think it was part of Merchant Square), but was w my wife so don't remember name--was too busy listening to her derogatory remark about the 2 singers, one dressed quite suggestively, outside, :eek:.

Can others add some other locations?:)
Golden Paris ..... "Jin Pa Li"

Cheers and Enjoy ................

[popee16]

Ha ha, another man doomed to hunting HFJs! I am also quite curious where. The only one I know is Tang, which is in basement of Adelphi building, across from Funan. Earlier mentioned is Club 188, which is in Balestier Point, around 20 singers there, some cuties, though I suspect each of the cuties already has bf. There's something like GeCheng Gesomething (I forget), very small place on Bencoolan near hotel 81, across from food court, around 12-14 singers, there's 2 in Paradiz Centre on 4th and 5th floors, both a bit dingy but certainly falls in cheaper category! There's also XingGuang / Starlight in Cuppage Plaza, 5th story, around 15-20 singers. Lastly I walked by a small place on Merchant Road (think it was part of Merchant Square), but was w my wife so don't remember name--was too busy listening to her derogatory remark about the 2 singers, one dressed quite suggestively, outside, :eek:.

Can others add some other locations?:)

Ching bar (美歌坊) at allson hotel abt 12 singers; Southern sky (南天) almost had 15 singers;Yantz(长江) abt 20.

[mark21]

Lucky at Level 4, Parklane

[saytoomuch]

Taxi driver told me of a joint near to ....Safti of all places.
Supposed to have Viet gals and a ktv pub style.
Not sure if any singing or HFJ. Anyone know about it?


I have been to another place near to Japanese Garden. This is well hidden. A HFJ with China girl singers and stage in the hall. Not cheap, considering their ulu location. Plenty of ah beng types throwing money in the ktv rooms. Guess something must be going on in the rooms for people to love throwing $ so much. And yes, they got crowds of Viet gal GROs. Go there only if you can tolerate the rest of the super ah beng obiang clientele. Not my cup of tea. DC much better.

[roamersg]

Ching bar (美歌坊) at allson hotel abt 12 singers; Southern sky (南天) almost had 15 singers;Yantz(长江) abt 20.

Thanks bros, can you also remember to indicate locations for those who haven't?

[kiongoy]

hi bros,
can some bros here pls advise me on where is 金碧辉煌 located？i went to find but just cant seems to find this HFJ.
Thanks bro...

Cheers

[myebook2008]

U can try small joints like Yi Nan Wang, Song, Tang, Hua Do, may just find some gems there.

Song at telor aha, yinanwang near Arab street,

[Big Semens]

Taxi driver told me of a joint near to ....Safti of all places.
Supposed to have Viet gals and a ktv pub style.
Not sure if any singing or HFJ. Anyone know about it?

Club Alantis at Arena Club, opposite SAFTI. Viets and PRCs... No HF there

[cx75]

There is a HFJ at peninsular hotel call club 181. Opened not too long, is at the hotel lobby. This is a small joint, flower not big, a few syt but not very chio type though presentable.

Personally, still prefer to go Club 188 at balestier or club jade at selegie. Not much pressure to hang, singers mostly syt. :) Tang, those chio singers already have bf so stop going there liao.

Another joint, Crystal palace at middle rd can be pressurising as the flower there is bigger if you get to know the singer.

Bros who like those older singers, ard late twenties, can go to Tuberose at Parklane level 6. Not many people, flower not big also. Went there when there was performance, the total flower for the show gal only $2,000 plus only.

[Alan Ong]

Better go to the laces where flower is smaller, so not so much pressure to hang:D

[popee16]

Thanks bros, can you also remember to indicate locations for those who haven't?

Southern sky (南天) located at River valley Road one of the very old building beside Liang Court; Yangtze (长江) at Pearl Centre Eu Tong San Street.

[saytoomuch]

Club Alantis at Arena Club, opposite SAFTI. Viets and PRCs... No HF there

Can you describe the place, any singing?
On stage in hall. or is it all rooms only?
Any GROs?
How many singers?
What is the clientele like. Is it many uniformed personnel.
What is the decor of the place.
Country club members only or open to public.

[teraterm55]

Hi Bros,

recently found this nice HFJ at Royal Hotel 16th story called AURORA.
aparently its been refurbished. Last time used to be a very wild place but now they added the HFJ element.

since they just started the HF there are not many customer, hehehehe..... so the singer sits with you whole nite :)

they have 8 singers so far.

TauTze - cute voice, sexy body, looks late 20's. boops not that big .. but she is fun to play dice with.

Amy - short hair, fair skin abit blurr blurr look. looks mid 20's. Singing not that great. shy kind

JayJay - fair skin, executive looking face, slender body, superb voice. looks early 20's. best voice of the lot

KerXin - slender body, boops i about 34C, gal next door look. singing is ok but sometimes can forget lyrics..

PeiPei - curly hair, wild look, singing is not bad, look early 20's nice smile.

XingYue - straight long hair, boops quite big. i guess 38C, body abit bah bah but then still slender. looks late 20. she has the kind of sexy voice. singing not bad. like it when she dance... the boops swing left and right hehehe

YueYuan - fresh look, snow white skin, solid voice and always smiling with cute dimples, extremly friendly

KiKi - youngest of the lost, aparently 18yo, cute dimples when she smile, slender body and soft subtle voice. also the most popular...

and the mummy Ah May... well dont think bros will be interested, but she is a friendly lady.

We started with beer and then end up opening 3 bottles hahaha.. had a ball of a nite, the singers all of them we just hang 50.. practically we take over whole joint

Damage :-
Beer - 30
Chivas/Martel - 198 x 3
Flowers - 50 x 8

well there was 5 of us, so only 200 bucks each, they waived the beer plus gave us anoter bottle for our next visit hahaha.. not bad.

[roamersg]

recently found this nice HFJ at Royal Hotel 16th story called AURORA.
aparently its been refurbished. Last time used to be a very wild place but now they added the HFJ element.


Thanks for very detailed and informative post. Looks like after a long long while the HFJ thread is becoming very alive again, great! Aurora is the KTV joint with lots of pho, isn't it? Have they attached simply attached a HFJ hall to it, or has concept changed? Eight's a pretty small selection of singers, but they sound quite good, will indeed make a visit

[K9696]

Hi Bros,


Flowers - 50 x 8

well there was 5 of us, so only 200 bucks each, they waived the beer plus gave us anoter bottle for our next visit hahaha.. not bad.

Tks...great FR...Cheers:D

[Alan Ong]

small joints are good, you get good mileage as the girls also paiseh not sitting with customers

[dirty69warrior]

hi bros,
can some bros here pls advise me on where is 金碧辉煌 located？i went to find but just cant seems to find this HFJ.
Thanks bro...

Cheers

isn't 金碧辉煌 located at Far East Shopping Centre (2nd Floor), i think?
visited the place a couple of times and gave up on it, as it look round down and small.

anyone tried Nite HongKong (Sophia Rd, 3rd floor)?
any gem to share?

what about Legend (Sophia Rd, 7th floor), is this a HFJ?
what the sort of damages there?

i like Sandborg (Sophia Rd, 4th floor) for the cheap drinks and run-table girls.
but the singers are simply not my kind of veggies.
sorry to bros who are fans and supporter of sandborg.

will explore Club Jade (Sophia Rd, 6th floor) soon, once one of my friend start to sing there.

heard that next to Hua Do (Serangoon Rd), got a HFJ, will explore and share with you soon.

Did anyone try the Artists and the 50s lately, any gems there?
care to share?

[XiBeiSong]

anyone tried Nite HongKong (Sophia Rd, 3rd floor)?
any gem to share?


If you go Nite Hong Kong, can try singer 34. name duo duo (as in toto in chinese). She has good figure, boobs quite big tho. looks ok. but friendly.

[myebook2008]

So-so, I was there about 1 mth ago, only two singers can sing well. Once you being DC HFJ, 2nd floor in the same building, others in that area you will not like any more. DC KTV a bit old, TV is smaller, still acceptable. Sandborg, not much comments, too many girls open your door to ask, not so pleasent. If you do not want to spend too much but want to have good quality singers, try Club 188.

[teraterm55]

Thanks for very detailed and informative post. Looks like after a long long while the HFJ thread is becoming very alive again, great! Aurora is the KTV joint with lots of pho, isn't it? Have they attached simply attached a HFJ hall to it, or has concept changed? Eight's a pretty small selection of singers, but they sound quite good, will indeed make a visit

yupz they have converted a a couple of rooms into the Hall, pretty big hall actually. heard they will be getting more singers in. but then its a nice place to chill. especially like one table, whereby can see the singer sing and the bouncy boops of the viet run table gals when they run room to room hahahaha

[K9696]

So-so, I was there about 1 mth ago, only two singers can sing well. Once you being DC HFJ, 2nd floor in the same building, others in that area you will not like any more. DC KTV a bit old, TV is smaller, still acceptable. Sandborg, not much comments, too many girls open your door to ask, not so pleasent. If you do not want to spend too much but want to have good quality singers, try Club 188.

Bro.. I noticed many bros here also saying and promote about 188, how good it is.. can provide FR?:D

[roamersg]

Bro.. I noticed many bros here also saying and promote about 188, how good it is.. can provide FR?:D

Singers around 18. What bros say is true, for a smaller joint has several chio singers and most are younger, unlike say Lucky at Parklane or Crystal Palace at Middle. However, if you are hunting then you need to find out if this is their first time to singapore, as quite a few singers were brought back by their bf and so one reason they were ok to go this place is that they had some minimum hanging from bf because place is indeed less popular. Or if you can figure out was dumped by last bf! (I understand one recently was just after she returned, but she not my type so didn't pursue.)

I find a few other downsides to this place. While it's relatively new (open this year), it's decor I find not so nice, much below other new places. Another negative is the location--Balestier Point is pretty run down too and it's not like Peace Ctr or Middle Road where there's a lot of other fun places to go to. Here apart from some food this is really the only target, as the KTVs in Balestier don't have chio girls

[roamersg]

And there are 3 HFJs on Jn Basar, all very close to Pudong. It's been such a long time since I ventured there that forget their names and can't give any FR, I stopped by 2 for a bit and decided didn't see chio singers so left, but that was over a year ago

[roamersg]

anyone tried Nite HongKong (Sophia Rd, 3rd floor)?
any gem to share?

what about Legend (Sophia Rd, 7th floor), is this a HFJ?
what the sort of damages there?

i like Sandborg (Sophia Rd, 4th floor) for the cheap drinks and run-table girls.
but the singers are simply not my kind of veggies.
sorry to bros who are fans and supporter of sandborg.

will explore Club Jade (Sophia Rd, 6th floor) soon, once one of my friend start to sing there.

heard that next to Hua Do (Serangoon Rd), got a HFJ, will explore and share with you soon.

Did anyone try the Artists and the 50s lately, any gems there?
care to share?

Where is Artists?

Legend: very small, had around 7 singers when I was there, only 1 I thought was cute but she was already well supported. Hangings can be bigger due to hi-end KTV, but much less popular than DC or LP so hangings also smaller

Club Jade: you might see in earlier posts I like this place, clean, large # singers, most young, tho only a few to my tastes (but then I feel the same about most places), but yes hanging much lower than Huangchao, Xianzi, LP, DC, etc, I guess more "middle level", at shows lots of cannons usually go off so more expensive to support singer than at smaller places

Nite HK: This place has really fallen apart, many singers left tho bros says it has held onto a few who have bf. I hope it recovers as good option and large place with many seats that have good views of stage, but I cannot recommend until boss gets new and large batch in

In terms of gems, it really does seem to be different men's poison at HFJ even more, maybe more men respond to their style and conversation, I don't know, but I've always been amazed at some who get huge hangings at big place who I would have thought could never survive at a KTV like TAM. Unless you catch them when they first arrive, I think it's fair to say chio ones are almost all taken, with a very small subset who are so popular they can dispense with a bf, but this is very rare. As it's so easy to see all the singers (late at PPC or just have patience to wait for full rotation), not as important I think to have the gems pointed out, unlike KTV where you may need to mommy to call gem up to come in for you

[QQ Lover]

Or if you can figure out was dumped by last bf! (I understand one recently was just after she returned, but she not my type so didn't pursue.)

Bro, what are people trying to pursue in singers ? Bed them, nice feeling or any reasons ? As far as I know, if anyone wants to bed them, be prepared to hang a few Big Flower before she even pays attention to you.

[dirty69warrior]

Bro, what are people trying to pursue in singers ? Bed them, nice feeling or any reasons ? As far as I know, if anyone wants to bed them, be prepared to hang a few Big Flower before she even pays attention to you.

i agreed with bro QQ Lover on what the meaning in trying to pursue singers?!
it is rather meaningless unless you are rich and want to "play" them, i think.
went up to Jade last night, the place was full.
managed to find a corner in the hall for a drink.
there was a show by a last-day singer and followed by PPC.
to my surprise, the quality of the singers are not far from DC ones, maybe comparable, personal opinion!
during PPC, i could see many stunning ones on the stage who can beat the singers in most HFJ flat, serious.
i don't know their names but got their no tag for your judgement on my taste; 8, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21.
somehow, i think 15 is the best; sweet, cute, can sing and has the charisma that you guys may find in DC singers.
banners like not many during PPC, considering it was full house last night.
i think can consider this place, for those singer-lovers!
we had 4 jugs of beers for about $140, i think it is rather reasonable price too for HFJ.
but remember QQ Lover's advice before acting rashly if you are thinking of bedding singers, may need to be prepared to pay a high price.

[saytoomuch]

Where is Artists?



May be the one at Duxton.
A small place.
Chinese name is Li Xin.

[saytoomuch]

i agreed with bro QQ Lover on what the meaning in trying to pursue singers?!
it is rather meaningless unless you are rich and want to "play" them, i think.
went up to Jade last night, the place was full.


We don't try because it is a game we cannot afford to play. I said that point blank to a friendly manager (in Mandarin) who suggested I get some singers to socialise with.

Those rich men who do play this game, well maybe they just got too much money. Or lack something....maybe home situation not good...or lack self esteem ... or lack attention. Anyway it is their money and maybe it is not illegal to bed the singer.

Bu those who really cannot afford but want to play like the super rich. They stinge on family expenses, don't support their children's education, (maybe cut their employees' pay) just to have money left over, to pretend to be rich at HFJ and throw money on singers.

These are the worst kind.

[Private88]

Agreed, few yrs ago, I was into these hanging flower joints, used to go alone to a few places and met up with 1 or 2 singers in the KTV room for chatting and singing, it really cost a bomb before you get to reach the peak... also, normally I don't buy flowers for them, better to tip them hard cash ($200-$300) before I leave than letting the boss to make 50% out of the flower charge !

Anyway, I must say, many of these singers can talk and sing better, I consider them of one class higher, this is something you can't find in normal KTV clubs when most of the chicks are just hopeless in communication except for the look...:cool:

[roamersg]

Bro, what are people trying to pursue in singers ? Bed them, nice feeling or any reasons ? As far as I know, if anyone wants to bed them, be prepared to hang a few Big Flower before she even pays attention to you.

The best answer (tho probably everyone has different reasons) is from bro DYBJ:

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/3948163-post268.html

At any of the big places it's undoubtedly very expensive at the bigger places, and still not cheap at the smaller ones. Maybe some hangers are showing off, but as they can show off at TAM and LP just as well, I suspect this isn't the big driver. One thing I have noticed is that many of the big hangers don't dress fancy w big rings or watches, so probably showing off riches is not their norm--I've definitely some bigger show-offs at TAM, CI, Mirage etc. So their reasons could be as bro DYBJ says. In fact on singer told me of several singers who have gotten married here (and I saw at least 2 of them), so given the greater ease of watching over singers as DYBJ points out could indeed be a key reason why some big hangers stick w HFJs. For me, I happened to have a couple of singer relationships, but only a couple, as many singers I was attracted to I quickly gave up pursuit because too much competition and hence money, so mostly I go HFJ just for entertainment, with eye for possibly finding someone if luck goes, but not planning for it (which I do at KTVs). If one goes for a short visit then it's cheaper than TAM, LP etc while still getting nice atmosphere in similar places

[Owen7]

Agreed, few yrs ago, I was into these hanging flower joints, used to go alone to a few places and met up with 1 or 2 singers in the KTV room for chatting and singing, it really cost a bomb before you get to reach the peak... also, normally I don't buy flowers for them, better to tip them hard cash ($200-$300) before I leave than letting the boss to make 50% out of the flower charge !

Anyway, I must say, many of these singers can talk and sing better, I consider them of one class higher, this is something you can't find in normal KTV clubs when most of the chicks are just hopeless in communication except for the look...:cool:
Gooding saying. SOmetimes better give them cash, as they would not meet the month target of $7K anyway.

[Big Semens]

Gooding saying. SOmetimes better give them cash, as they would not meet the month target of $7K anyway.
THey can choose to keep or hang flwr for themselves to meet month target

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Yes, I do not disagree that giving them cash is the best option but I personally would never practise it.
See, you give cash, they'll use all efforts not to put it on their flower tally.
Thus, they'll need to seek more flowers, this approach, you actually open the doors to more competitors
Think about it, you all have been to HFJs and if you heard that there's a supporter that hangs $$$ for that singer you ZEROED, would you still hang for her?????
Now change the scene, you see someone on stage you find interest in, and you heard no one really hangs for her, would you hang????? Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!
What you did, was just opened the lid to pandora's box....thus allowing more competition for yourself.
In the end, who really won & who really lost?
The answer is so obvious isnt it......

[K9696]

For me, I happened to have a couple of singer relationships, but only a couple, as many singers

Bro.. u got so many singer RS.. haha.. u can tahan..:p
so u must be visiting those joints every alternate day to support your
darling.....:D

[Owen7]

Bro.. u got so many singer RS.. haha.. u can tahan..:p
so u must be visiting those joints every alternate day to support your
darling.....:D
Go 3 times a week already minimum cost $450 per week, $1,800 per month.

Each session go hang $100 (as minimum) and spend $50 (estimate 1 jug+GST OR Balance with Fruits $38 at DC), so estimate $150 per session x 3 times per week, so $450 minimum per week.

$450/week x 4 weeks - $1,800 per momth

I went crazy during a certain period supporting singers from Lucky, Macau, Sandborg and dancer from DC :eek: The highest I've hit in a month is $5K:eek:

[myebook2008]

Went 188 Saturday night, a lot of customers. Business is better there now. I usually hang the singer 300~800, and manager 100~150, PR guy 100~150, staff 40. The singer is JinYi, I have so much fun to sing with her. They like to sing with me too, because I only spend, do not ask anything else. We almost sing most of the songs we know, so less fun now. The manager Maggie can sing well too.

[makemecum]

Went 188 Saturday night, a lot of customers. Business is better there now. I usually hang the singer 300~800, and manager 100~150, PR guy 100~150, staff 40. The singer is JinYi, I have so much fun to sing with her. They like to sing with me too, because I only spend, do not ask anything else. We almost sing most of the songs we know, so less fun now. The manager Maggie can sing well too.

2 words.... rich man:D

[Smeagol]

We almost sing most of the songs we know, so less fun now.

The thing I hate most about 188 is the intermission where customer will have their karaoke singing. That's when my 耳朵被强奸. You must be one of them lah :p

This when I go smoke in the little open air garden.......:)

[Big Semens]

Went 188 Saturday night, a lot of customers. Business is better there now. I usually hang the singer 300~800, and manager 100~150, PR guy 100~150, staff 40. The singer is JinYi, I have so much fun to sing with her. They like to sing with me too, because I only spend, do not ask anything else. We almost sing most of the songs we know, so less fun now. The manager Maggie can sing well too.
Richie Rich ! everyone also hang ......... you forgot the waiters and the toilet ah neh :D

[myebook2008]

Yes, I donor like to hear that too. I always in the MTV room, so it is ok. No fun to listen PPC so many times. Another guy has not been there, toilet no Ah Neh there, the joints is not that big.

[QQ Lover]

Can check-out XingGuang/Starlite at Cuppage Plaza 5th Flr. Abt 18 singers, a few are SYTs. Place is new and clean.

Nothing much negative to say, except the flower they use for $50 is like those Hawaii flower garlands that look very ugly when hang on the singers. Maybe they are trying to make the hanging start $100 :D

[roamersg]

Bro.. u got so many singer RS..
so u must be visiting those joints every alternate day to support your
darling.....:D

Haha, no no, was referring to singer relationships in the past, each of them has already returned to China. Now I still know several in different joints, but as I'm not pursuing them I just go just occasionally to chitchat / help them out. Some months I don't visit even one HFJ at all, though admit past few months I've been going a bit more often just because of timing of when I can sneak away from home

As so many bros have said, it makes no economic sense to chase singers just for a bonk ... but I also admit I can't quite stop myself from being attracted to some singers, so I just have to force myself to keep my wallet in my pants (along with didi:()

[dirty69warrior]

forget about the idea of bonking singers (unless u veri the rich) la, veri silly idea lo.
go and enjoy and if it "happens", accept it.
else, enjoy with the butterflies; more value for money.

any1 got read last nite shinMin?
1 big page on No Name!
tis used to be one of my preferred HFJ joints coz singers can be quite fun like butterflies yet no need to spend big bucks.
never been there for a long time already and dun know still got "happening" singers???
still got maids, stewardess, etc, theme?

[cockscrew]

[QUOTE=dirty69warrior;3963346]any1 got read last nite shinMin?
1 big page on No Name!
tis used to be one of my preferred HFJ joints coz singers can be quite fun like butterflies yet no need to spend big bucks.
[QUOTE]

hahaha..very interesting news.... the first time in Sinkapoor...they post the handphone nos. of the singers openly in the newspaper:D

[lawry]

very siong place. cock tease u. say will let u up.. but after a few hang flower session.. if u show u like them. ask u to hang 1k min to make them happy (they think singapore dollar is like indonesia?? 1k very small is it??)

i had spend thousands aat hang flower shop.. but didnt get a single bonk yet.. lol .. stupid me.. :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Wa Kaoz bro, you ok or not......
The gal play tarik wif you, must learn to corner her till she no choice but rape u instead!

[lawry]

Wa Kaoz bro, you ok or not......
The gal play tarik wif you, must learn to corner her till she no choice but rape u instead!

u bring me go next time lah.. be my master in cornering hann flower girls?? ;)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I apologise for my statement.
Me newbie in this arena but I'm sure there are many old birds here that can fulfill your request!

[lawry]

I apologise for my statement.
Me newbie in this arena but I'm sure there are many old birds here that can fulfill your request!

no lah bro.. we learn from each other.. ;)

[K9696]

It is good to share share info here..
so we could learn from one another..:p

[K9696]

Haha, no no, was referring to singer relationships in the past, each of them has already returned to China. Now I still know several in different joints, but as I'm not pursuing them I just go just occasionally to chitchat / help them out. Some months I don't visit even one HFJ at all, though admit past few months I've been going a bit more often just because of timing of when I can sneak away from home

As so many bros have said, it makes no economic sense to chase singers just for a bonk ... but I also admit I can't quite stop myself from being attracted to some singers, so I just have to force myself to keep my wallet in my pants (along with didi:()

yes, its depends on what you are going..as a friend or just killing time..
but, very small percentage you can get a singer being your friend, cos
they are here to make monies, most of the time, opening mouth, say,
you can come and support me for my "show" , hear this very sianzzzzzz:p

Or they starts to tell you that day who's show got how much... like
that you know what she trying to drive at.......$$$$haha

[otur]

yes, its depends on what you are going..as a friend or just killing time..
but, very small percentage you can get a singer being your friend, cos
they are here to make monies, most of the time, opening mouth, say,
you can come and support me for my "show" , hear this very sianzzzzzz:p

Or they starts to tell you that day who's show got how much... like
that you know what she trying to drive at.......$$$$haha

aiya bro, this is part of it la.
where got ppl come here work as WL no thinking abt money de?
even some of us who are in sales line also meet fren also talk abt quota right? also will mention abt colleague's result right?
the onli diff here is direct conflict of interest la cos you r one of her customer ma.
imagine u be fren with a car dealer also lidat mah....

but timing is importent la. if u hang a gal that just arrive n no customer no flower during ppc, chances of her being yr fren thru out her stay in sg is very high, if u dont make any request of wanting to bonk her.
even older singers who are here for already 1-2mth, this still work. hang on a day where ppc she got no flower.
but only be fren ya, dun bother thinking too much.

[K9696]

aiya bro, this is part of it la.
where got ppl come here work as WL no thinking abt money de?
even some of us who are in sales line also meet fren also talk abt quota right? also will mention abt colleague's result right?
the onli diff here is direct conflict of interest la cos you r one of her customer ma.
imagine u be fren with a car dealer also lidat mah....

but timing is importent la. if u hang a gal that just arrive n no customer no flower during ppc, chances of her being yr fren thru out her stay in sg is very high, if u dont make any request of wanting to bonk her.
even older singers who are here for already 1-2mth, this still work. hang on a day where ppc she got no flower.
but only be fren ya, dun bother thinking too much.

Thanks senior for your pointers.
I do not think of bonking at all, cos, I can't afford so much like
some big spenders, can throw thousands....

cheers.:D

[Smeagol]

Me newbie in this arena

I think most people regard u as hfj yoda leow. Force very strong!!!!

[Smeagol]

but as I'm not pursuing them I just go just occasionally to chitchat / help them out.

but I also admit I can't quite stop myself from being attracted to some singers, so I just have to force myself to keep my wallet in my pants (along with didi:()

You really alot of "friendship" with singers hor. My 2 cents..... real friendship no nid money wan..... that's if you can find a true friend in a HFJ.

Best way to kick an addiction..... COLD TURKEY....... or in this case, pass all your money to your OC.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I think most people regard u as hfj yoda leow. Force very strong!!!!

Mai anihow say hor...wat Yoda wat Force ni
Me go HFJ limteh listen to free music la
People have freedom of tot bit I noe I is nots cans liaozzzzz

[Oceanlee]

but timing is importent la. if u hang a gal that just arrive n no customer no flower during ppc, chances of her being yr fren thru out her stay in sg is very high, if u dont make any request of wanting to bonk her.
even older singers who are here for already 1-2mth, this still work. hang on a day where ppc she got no flower.


Higher Chances, but it's all a matter of choices by the MMs.
Let's just say, if the chemistry is right. All bodes well.

Otherwise just call it the night and cheers n Merri.
However, that day PPC no flower, do not mean you are Special if you make an impression, its a normal rtn of gesture for that courtesy that MMs will just come and greet.

Cheers

[myebook2008]

Why some bros want to make friends with the singers,my experience,not easy. I learnt to control my self, not to be so interest in some one. That makes my life easier. I do not even give my numbers now. Hope you guys will not scold me. I still support them,just donor want or be interested to be so close to them. Anyway they work very hard, got many DaYe to love them.

[myebook2008]

Guys, can go Cuppage 6flr, FuJi. New, fee is low. A few MTV rms,2 jar beer only. support the girl JinJin.

[n733]

down at macau tonite......got a handful of singers no bad....:D 2jug at 48....cheappp

[lawry]

Hang flower joint.. you could make friends..

I have been good friend with one who look like elva hsiao.. (one big joint in Singapore).. but.. if u think about sex.. rather hard.. as they are train.. (once u give sex to a man.. they will loose interest in you..) unless u are the da ye.. that hang 1k for 5 days.. and thh siix day ask her for sex.. most of the time she wont reject... seen that in dynasty classic..

but why want to be their friends?

in term of money value..

I could get better friends in LV or TAM.. U pay the same.. cause as their friend.. u bring them out.. its free food drinks and some shopping to them.. but the difference is in TAM/LV.. u could hold their hands hug them or kiss them if u want.. or even sex..

for hang flower joint.. its tough..

the best experience i had is..

A girl open a bottle of martel and let me drink.. says she likes me cause i YAN DAO and looks young..

but after a few trips.. Say she really wants me too.. but I must give her face among her friends - hang at least 1k for her.. (that is my fourth trip.. considered i hang 200 per trip.. and 100 for her friend plus the singer manager - its 400 per trip.)

that free bottle of martel in my first trip costed me 1200 in total.. lol..

Did i hang 1k for her.. of course not... the market dont work this way..

for 1k i could fuck a really hot girl..

Make friends? why them?? I have hot singapore female friends to go out with... (of course cannot hanki panki lah.. but its the same as going out with these singers..)

But once in a while i still go... lol.. when i have enough sex and just want to hear some good singing plus play some games when my friends are not free to go KTV with me..

places i go.. huang cao (lavander) and dynasty classic... the small places are once in a blue mooon.. not worth mentioning..

if u guys like solid body girls, there are a few beside H 81 at lavander there..

enjoy and get milk.. lol. :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

All I can say is HFJ is an addiction.
Once you're addicted to it, KTV gals ain't that much kick anymore
To me la, the whole idea of the game is ROI (Return of Investment)
The cheapest singer i bed was for 200 bucks wahahaha I also dunno how that happened but guess she was investing cos after that day, chut pattern liao and keep asking me to go to her joint and I did!!!! But i didnt hang a cent for her
My most biggest failure was 8k on a singer & still cannot kenna.....that was done in 2 nites hor.....damn ai wan, her papers got prob using another name thus ICA sent her back...nabei
Other than that, I guess one has to decide whether the target is worth the $$$$$
Wat you said was rite, they'll try to tarik wif you for as long as possible but once you kill all competition, they're as good as your liao......cos, no one will wanna hang for her anymore once they see someone bombing her non stop

Just curious, since you mention Huang Chao, is there a singer there by the name of Yu Cheng雨辰?
Ex Mirage 神话

[AustinPowers]

wow, some people in this forum must be filthy rich.
$1k to hang flower and no sex, not even hanky panky?

unless you have tens of millions, i don't think this is wise thing to do.

i can understand the lust for really solid beautiful girls, especially if they have some other talent like singing or dancing, etc.
if i am filthy rich, i also want to bed these girls.

some brother here (is it do_u_bj?) got it right --- don't get emotional.
don't let your ego and vanity grow too big and think these girls will ever love you. this is strictly a business transaction, a MEAT market. we are all after their young nubile bodies and gentle dismeanor and they are after our money.


if u want really beautiful PRC girls, go to china!

in shanghai, u can get quite famous or once very famous very beautiful PRC actresses for $500,000 RMB per night ( that is, about S$120k ?).
yes, very beautiful once very famous PRC actresses.
i don't want to reveal names here. one of them acted in HK-China serials before and they were shown on S'pore TV.

i've been to hanging flower joints in xiamen. the singers and especially the lead dancers are really pretty. and the lead dancers can really dance - all graduates from some performance arts academy. well-trained. solid body, white skin, beautiful face. rates also quite expensive. i cannot remember clearly because that was 4 years ago. i think they also hang a few thousand RMB flowers.

i've also been to Tian Shang Ren Jian (Passion) in Beijing during its heydays.
For 2,000k RMB (that was 7 years ago), you can bed a very pretty girl - as pretty as all the singers you see here. Not really cheap considering they are not singers, but some PRC singers in S'pore can't really sing. Now i heard standard in Beijing KTV NC has dropped. There are more and more Chinaman millionaires and they have probably taken and kept all the really pretty PRC gals to themselves.






Hang flower joint.. you could make friends..

I have been good friend with one who look like elva hsiao.. (one big joint in Singapore).. but.. if u think about sex.. rather hard.. as they are train.. (once u give sex to a man.. they will loose interest in you..) unless u are the da ye.. that hang 1k for 5 days.. and thh siix day ask her for sex.. most of the time she wont reject... seen that in dynasty classic..

but why want to be their friends?

But once in a while i still go... lol.. when i have enough sex and just want to hear some good singing plus play some games when my friends are not free to go KTV with me..

places i go.. huang cao (lavander) and dynasty classic... the small places are once in a blue mooon.. not worth mentioning..

if u guys like solid body girls, there are a few beside H 81 at lavander there..

enjoy and get milk.. lol. :D

[lawry]

All I can say is HFJ is an addiction.
Once you're addicted to it, KTV gals ain't that much kick anymore
To me la, the whole idea of the game is ROI (Return of Investment)
The cheapest singer i bed was for 200 bucks wahahaha I also dunno how that happened but guess she was investing cos after that day, chut pattern liao and keep asking me to go to her joint and I did!!!! But i didnt hang a cent for her
My most biggest failure was 8k on a singer & still cannot kenna.....that was done in 2 nites hor.....damn ai wan, her papers got prob using another name thus ICA sent her back...nabei
Other than that, I guess one has to decide whether the target is worth the $$$$$
Wat you said was rite, they'll try to tarik wif you for as long as possible but once you kill all competition, they're as good as your liao......cos, no one will wanna hang for her anymore once they see someone bombing her non stop

Just curious, since you mention Huang Chao, is there a singer there by the name of Yu Cheng雨辰?
Ex Mirage 神话

u talking abt the one at middle road or the one at lavander??

I dont remember names.. I remember number..

68 is hot.. grad from dancing school in china..
wen wen cant survived went back a few weeks back..
wat else?? mind block.. cant think now.. lol..
which joint do u usually go? care to share?

[Firestarter]

IMHO, one big problem with singers as friends is everytime want to go out in the evening/night (say go clubbing, dinner, movie etc) must 买场. It's damn irritating as from romancing throughout the day suddenly switch topic to $$$. Even if they like u, also they have to think of $$$ first as it's a matter of penalty for them. Add to that, the companies also have rehersals/ meetings in the afternoons/evenings which means the singers are not availiable.

When my singer friends sick and ask for help to see doctor, they also need to 买场. Add to that, MC often not recognised by company. Singers life is generally not as nice as it seems... Sigh!

Freelance KTV girls in general dun have this problem. If they like u, they happily take off and go anywhere with u.

[AustinPowers]

walao, u guys are really rich...

just curious where do u get so much money?
cannot be salaried men.
doing business?

actually if u r so rich, go china. the hanging flower singer/lead dancer gals there are prettier! but big cities in china are not cheap nowadays.



All I can say is HFJ is an addiction.
Once you're addicted to it, KTV gals ain't that much kick anymore
To me la, the whole idea of the game is ROI (Return of Investment)
The cheapest singer i bed was for 200 bucks wahahaha I also dunno how that happened but guess she was investing cos after that day, chut pattern liao and keep asking me to go to her joint and I did!!!! But i didnt hang a cent for her
My most biggest failure was 8k on a singer & still cannot kenna.....that was done in 2 nites hor.....damn ai wan, her papers got prob using another name thus ICA sent her back...nabei
Just curious, since you mention Huang Chao, is there a singer there by the name of Yu Cheng雨辰?
Ex Mirage 神话

[AustinPowers]

wow all u guys must be very rich

where do u get all those money to hang on the singers?
cannot be salaried men..
doing business?

i can only read your postings and fantasize.


IMHO, one big problem with singers as friends is everytime want to go out in the evening/night (say go clubbing, dinner, movie etc) must 买场. It's damn irritating as from romancing throughout the day suddenly switch topic to $$$. Even if they like u, also they have to think of $$$ first as it's a matter of penalty for them. Add to that, the companies also have rehersals/ meetings in the afternoons/evenings which means the singers are not availiable.

When my singer friends sick and ask for help to see doctor, they also need to 买场. Add to that, MC often not recognised by company. Singers life is generally not as nice as it seems... Sigh!

Freelance KTV girls in general dun have this problem. If they like u, they happily take off and go anywhere with u.

[myebook2008]

Fully agree. HFJ singers do not have much freedom, unless they found very rich BF to support their leave, MC, always 买场 for them. A lot of KTV girls are students, they are still young and not working so hard, so very easy-going.

A lot of 同道中人 here. One of the post is right, HFJ is kind of addiction. It can be quite enjoy if you come to a good joints with good singers.

[roamersg]

Hang flower joint.. you could make friends..

I have been good friend with one who look like elva hsiao.. (one big joint in Singapore).. but.. if u think about sex.. rather hard.. as they are train.. (once u give sex to a man.. they will loose interest in you..) unless u are the da ye.

I could get better friends in LV or TAM.. U pay the same.. cause as their friend.. u bring them out.. its free food drinks and some shopping to them.. but the difference is in TAM/LV.. u could hold their hands hug them or kiss them if u want.. or even sex..


Agreed, they basically tell each other to avoid bedding someone unless he can support you because once other customers learn, they won't hang for you anymore. Which is indeed broadly true. So most singers try to draw it out as long as possible, and at some of the bigger joints a few are able to hit their targets without ever getting a bf. And it's very true about the KTV girls being open to more affection b/c they are trained that way in the KTV. In HFJs most disdain public affection, again they are afraid word might spread that whoever holds their hand is their bf.

IMHO, one big problem with singers as friends is everytime want to go out in the evening/night (say go clubbing, dinner, movie etc) must 买场

Yes, this is the biggest problem for me, as otherwise when I had gf singers I had to see them just before they go to work or after 3am, and I need to work in the morning! Of course, given how late their hours are, very hard to meet them in afternoon, which is often when I meet the KTV MMs for hotel liaisons. Singers' pressure is indeed very high, much more than the students


places i go.. huang cao (lavander) and dynasty classic... the small places are once in a blue mooon.. not worth mentioning..


Never been to this Lavender place. So it's comparable to DC and Cleopatra in terms of ambience and # pretty singers?

Yet despite all the disadvantages of singers, I also struggle to resist. Lately I've been sticking to KTV MMs, but remain tempted by some singers and force my small head to listen to big head. When I meet a new, beautiful singer with good conversation, I always start thinking about whether this one is 'worth it'. But in the large places I know the answer is no

[glazen]

has anyone try making love to a singer while she sings a full song in bed:)?

[cx75]

Yet despite all the disadvantages of singers, I also struggle to resist. Lately I've been sticking to KTV MMs, but remain tempted by some singers and force my small head to listen to big head. When I meet a new, beautiful singer with good conversation, I always start thinking about whether this one is 'worth it'. But in the large places I know the answer is no

Bro, agree with you. No point supporting singer at bigger joint, there are many rich people there who can afford to throw money. Why compete with those rich guys and you may not even get the singer in the end. We go there to enjoy not to create pressure for ourselve.

I try to avoid going to those big joints in case small head control over the big head especially when we see those pretty singers, may have the urge of getting them.

Bros who are in the HFJ must have gone through the process of supporting singers. Is not cheap but many still prefer singers than those ktv gals, why? because of egotism.

[dirty69warrior]

good advice by bro cx7!
if you are a Championship-quality player, it is better that you play to your strength in the Championship and dominate it than to be thrashed again and again by the Premiership players.
you may perform the giant-killer act once in a blue moon like Barnsley beating Liverpool, but oso cannot progress very far.
i may not be into singers but still want to advise the ave HFJ chiongster to chiong wif care.
many singers are here under tremendous pressure (by family, debt, or employer) to earn money.
of cause many of them also got heart and feelings too though and you may have luck with them.
Big HFJs are for high earners, businessmen and "laundrymen".
so, don't try to compete with them with your blood-sweat money.
there are many smaller HFJs with many gems around if only you are willing to venture.
you may get "lucky" and score many sweet victories in smaller and less popular joints than the one-off victory in the bigger joints (supported by many people and big players) and suffer many humiliating defeats.
after all, many people or not is secondary but the accompany of the singers is primary, i think.
unless you are rich and want to be seem by many people that you can hang big, then do it at the big joints.
kut-lat (work hard) and good luck!

[K9696]

I came across this singer, asking me to come and support her in her show,
I reject saying 2molo needs to work.

She told me so pressure and afraid
no customers - did not sleep for two days..

I asked her, health is importance or monies is importance, she said 面子问题
I really buay tahan...:p 服了她们。

Really sympathise her situation..:D

[n733]

I came across this singer, asking me to come and support her in her show,
I reject saying 2molo needs to work.

She told me so pressure and afraid
no customers - did not sleep for two days..

I asked her, health is importance or monies is importance, she said 面子问题
I really buay tahan...:p 服了她们。

Really sympathise her situation..:D


lol....all singer are like that.....crazy lunatic.....:D the face value more impt than anything...

[otur]

I came across this singer, asking me to come and support her in her show,
I reject saying 2molo needs to work.

She told me so pressure and afraid
no customers - did not sleep for two days..

I asked her, health is importance or monies is importance, she said 面子问题
I really buay tahan...:p 服了她们。

Really sympathise her situation..:D

lol....all singer are like that.....crazy lunatic.....:D the face value more impt than anything...

thats why the 姐妹花 come into picture. why hang for yr fellow singer n let the boss earn money? cos of face lor. they know very well how he system works yet still wanna do it. some even ask their customer to hang for other gal, dun hang for her also nvm. cos 面子. so end of the day money is not everything la. do the right thing at the right time will bring you far far. needless to say, hanging few thousand flower is never the wrong thing to do anytime :D

[otur]

was there with another bro on sat night. nice place n cheap beer as mentioned.

track back n found myself started going hfj only for like 1yr nia. the posting was made 7 april 08.

the singer that i noe in the a/m place came back to sg on her 3rd contact n we are still very good fren ;)

[lawry]

;)lol....all singer are like that.....crazy lunatic.....:D the face value more impt than anything...

lol.. Those that come singapore to be singers are very well trained in talking..

she says stress.. need face.. its hinting to u.. that u must help her.. lol

after going to these joints.. i learn so many reason they could give to you for you to just hang flower to them..

one time - Once i told a gal.. i want to have sex with u.. she says i look so cultured why i tok so xia liu.. So i said.. ok loh.. i be cultured to you from today onwards.. and will talk friendship but nothing else.. (naturally means dont give her flower...) few months later.. cant survived.. come and sms tell me to support her for a few time before she goes back in one weeks back.. I told her i can but dont hang flower to you... she asked why? I told her.. i tot u say we talk friendship and culture but nothing else.. and of course u dont want to have sex with me too.. She says but now i willing.. but u must support me first..

debt?? family problem?? no lah.. China where got so poor thing now..
they just want to earn easy money.. dont come and bullshit me their family in shit form.. its all bullshit.. i bet my last cent with u..

of course maybe out of 10 there might be 1.. but most is greedy and want to earn easy money.. cause with their looks / singing / voice mostly cannot make it in their country..

In china a lot of people have better talents.. they are the average or the rejects thats why come singapore. :)

[K9696]

thats why the 姐妹花 come into picture. why hang for yr fellow singer n let the boss earn money? cos of face lor. they know very well how he system works yet still wanna do it. some even ask their customer to hang for other gal, dun hang for her also nvm. cos 面子. so end of the day money is not everything la. do the right thing at the right time will bring you far far. needless to say, hanging few thousand flower is never the wrong thing to do anytime :D

bro.. your few thousand can do many things le....not hanging flower la..
cos, they will tell you "XIE XIE ni, SUAI GE" - Thank you Handsome..
in their heart.. knn.. we are just another "CAI TAO"..:D

[otur]

bro.. your few thousand can do many things le....not hanging flower la..
cos, they will tell you "XIE XIE ni, SUAI GE" - Thank you Handsome..
in their heart.. knn.. we are just another "CAI TAO"..

i noe la. bros who go drink with me noe that i m cheapo.
for this 1 yr+ that i go hfj, the biggest i ever hang is 300.
i still think that is the timing. do the right thing at the right time lor.
cos me no rich man, in fact v poor. so only can play mind game. cheapo ya :p
but i find it fun in so doing. all of us have diff way of enjoying la.
some like to 放炮. but i will only go counter 买最后一场when someone else 放炮;)
in term of bringing singer to screw, my best record was 飞花 $50 on 1st encounter， the next day go again without hanging any flower cos someone hang for her during ppc, n after 3am off we go.....

[Macallan12]

I came across this singer, asking me to come and support her in her show,
I reject saying 2molo needs to work.

She told me so pressure and afraid
no customers - did not sleep for two days..

I asked her, health is importance or monies is importance, she said 面子问题
I really buay tahan...:p 服了她们。
For them, they feel very lousy if sit all by themselves at the back sofa w/o anyone hang them, and besides they do have targets to have 8 - 10 table bookings per month.... there are too many PRCs... we can't help all

[mark21]

lol....all singer are like that.....crazy lunatic.....:D the face value more impt than anything...
PRC take the face issue very seriously

[K9696]

i noe la. bros who go drink with me noe that i m cheapo.
for this 1 yr+ that i go hfj, the biggest i ever hang is 300.
i still think that is the timing. do the right thing at the right time lor.
cos me no rich man, in fact v poor. so only can play mind game. cheapo ya :p
but i find it fun in so doing. all of us have diff way of enjoying la.
some like to 放炮. but i will only go counter 买最后一场when someone else 放炮;)
in term of bringing singer to screw, my best record was 飞花 $50 on 1st encounter， the next day go again without hanging any flower cos someone hang for her during ppc, n after 3am off we go.....

bro, i think you hv mistaken my statement.
I dun say you cheapo, i also like you, i can only remember so far
only hang 200 max. that is all.
as for like you, go to counter buy last round, i have never done b4.
cos, usually i gone there only 2 hrs, that is all..
I usually go back b4 ppc, or else, very pressure, if u no hang flower
the gal sitting w you - very urgly face le... so to them FACE is
importance, according to so many bro hearsay...:D

[teraterm55]

hehhe was around orchard today. went up to Starlight Music Lounge (XinGuang) 5th level at cuppage... just come out of the lift and its there...
dont goto the side one. thats a room KTV.

below is the line up. Might have gotten the names worng because the anouncer was mumbling.. so i put their number next to the name.

This place i think the system damn bad like everyone mumbles... haiz..


HuangHuang (68) - damn thin.. cant sing. face abit weird.. Big face and put on lots of powder, looks early 20's

FangYa (10) - good solid voice, quite shapely.. big boops at least a D-cup.. hehehe i like big boops.. looks mid 20's

YenNing (07) - thin and curvy, looks good in her silver dress. cant really sing. looks mid 30's

DanDan (03) - looks early 20's abit of baby fats... was wondering if she was singing in hokkien or cantonese or mandarine...

Cherry (26) - slender, looks mid 20's...singing quite ok... at least i can make out the words she is singing. she can sing some pretty high notes

HungTze (17) - looks mid 20's ordinary looking... ordinary voice.

Sally (108) - mid 20's was wearing a semi transparent dress.. singing ok. normal normal.

QiQi (18) - looks young. has those pheonix eyes.... cant hear what she is singing... voice soft soft.

BaoEr (08) - quite short, B+ boops are quite big but her face is just strange. cant sing also.. i think she mumbles... looks mid 20's

FangMei (168) - nice curly brown hair, quite boopsy. but also cant sing. she has fair skin... looks mid 20's

FengSan(22) - skinny, nice hair.. also cant sing. mumbles, looks mid 20's

JiaJia(28) - skinny, cant sing, sounds like she has a ball in her mouth when she sings. looks normal... looks late 20's

YangXin (138) - Big Eyes... but then sleepy ones. maybe she was tired. long hair.. look mid 20's... singing ok. at least can listen to what she is singing.

Jolene (88) - looks pretty sexy. has the CFM face... curly hair.. nice legs.. but then also cant sing.

TianTIan (98) - she can SING.. ahhaha refreshing after a long list of mumblers. slender body, long hair. looks mid 20's... she got 1000 tonite.. hahahha.. must have big supporter one.

Lisa (33) - BahBah kind. white skin, singing ok. looks early 20's like xiau mei mei kind.

KerEr (29) - looks oldest of all.. also cant sing, slender but have abit of tummy..look late 30's

LiLi (??) - cant see her number, but then she has short hair. sexy looking, singing is good. and has dimples when she sing.. hahaha.. one of the best

xuanXuan (288) - looks old... infact older than number 29.. hahaha... cant sing. only saving grace is she has nice hair... look late 20's

Yuki (19) - can speak jap hahahah.. not bad singing, look early 20's pretty friendly also

XingXing(??) - dont know her number, cant sing, but has this super rich old man as supporter.. looks early 20's slender and small face.

HuangHuang - the singer manageress... she very friendly, i think she must be quite hot when she was young... her singing is not bad.

Beer is S$38 a jug. pretty expensive...


hmm one thing weird about this place is the customer not bad. the gals who cant sing still can get like 100 to 500 flower during "PaiPai Chang" but then those who can sing.. hahahahha.. 50 only. but then the customer who hang mostly quite elderly... hahaha.. the waitress was saying "Lau Niu Chi Neng Chow"

oh well i am also going into the "Lau Niu" category soon.., so i hope there will be "Neng Chow" for me to eat hahahahahha.

ok end of FR.

[myebook2008]

You can go 1 level up, Fu Ji, not bad. You have not much pressure for flower. Can try room, good promotion.

[ONEON]

Sally (108) - mid 20's was wearing a semi transparent dress.. singing ok. normal normal.
Nice FR Bro ! Singer 108 is Sammi, from Haerbin, whom I am follow-up :D

[cx75]

Bro Teraterm55 good FR, up u. :)

Peifu peifu, you can remember so many singers by going there one nite.

[myebook2008]

Club 188 team are working very hard to prepare show for National Day, last two days, 8th and 9th of Aug. I had a preview, very impressive. All gals will come at 7pm to practice. Hope all bros to come to see. If you drive, make sure you turn left after Hotel 88, go in, then turn right to carpark. I missed the turn the 1st time, take me 5 minutes to U-turn back.

Today I went again, and got some photo to share with all. All kind of dancing, traditional chinese, Japanese, sexy, Korean...

Club188 - Windows Live (http://cid-b0683c7ed5bb0bbd.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Club188)

Plus staff there really very friendly. Staff lead's nickname is call LaoShu 老鼠, goot drinker. Singer's teacher is QiaoFeng 乔峰, from YangTze KTV in Pearl Center. Singer's lead is Maggie, very sweet and beautiful lady from SiChuan 四川. Best singer Jin Yi, can sing and dance very very well.

Some bros asking phone numbers, I can only share the KTV's general number here 62547237.

[Kranji Boy]

hehhe was around orchard today. went up to Starlight Music Lounge (XinGuang) 5th level at cuppage... just come out of the lift and its there...
dont goto the side one. thats a room KTV.

below is the line up. Might have gotten the names worng because the anouncer was mumbling.. so i put their number next to the name.

This place i think the system damn bad like everyone mumbles... haiz..


HuangHuang (68) - damn thin.. cant sing. face abit weird.. Big face and put on lots of powder, looks early 20's

FangYa (10) - good solid voice, quite shapely.. big boops at least a D-cup.. hehehe i like big boops.. looks mid 20's

YenNing (07) - thin and curvy, looks good in her silver dress. cant really sing. looks mid 30's

DanDan (03) - looks early 20's abit of baby fats... was wondering if she was singing in hokkien or cantonese or mandarine...

Cherry (26) - slender, looks mid 20's...singing quite ok... at least i can make out the words she is singing. she can sing some pretty high notes

HungTze (17) - looks mid 20's ordinary looking... ordinary voice.

Sally (108) - mid 20's was wearing a semi transparent dress.. singing ok. normal normal.

QiQi (18) - looks young. has those pheonix eyes.... cant hear what she is singing... voice soft soft.

BaoEr (08) - quite short, B+ boops are quite big but her face is just strange. cant sing also.. i think she mumbles... looks mid 20's

FangMei (168) - nice curly brown hair, quite boopsy. but also cant sing. she has fair skin... looks mid 20's

FengSan(22) - skinny, nice hair.. also cant sing. mumbles, looks mid 20's

JiaJia(28) - skinny, cant sing, sounds like she has a ball in her mouth when she sings. looks normal... looks late 20's

YangXin (138) - Big Eyes... but then sleepy ones. maybe she was tired. long hair.. look mid 20's... singing ok. at least can listen to what she is singing.

Jolene (88) - looks pretty sexy. has the CFM face... curly hair.. nice legs.. but then also cant sing.

TianTIan (98) - she can SING.. ahhaha refreshing after a long list of mumblers. slender body, long hair. looks mid 20's... she got 1000 tonite.. hahahha.. must have big supporter one.

Lisa (33) - BahBah kind. white skin, singing ok. looks early 20's like xiau mei mei kind.

KerEr (29) - looks oldest of all.. also cant sing, slender but have abit of tummy..look late 30's

LiLi (??) - cant see her number, but then she has short hair. sexy looking, singing is good. and has dimples when she sing.. hahaha.. one of the best

xuanXuan (288) - looks old... infact older than number 29.. hahaha... cant sing. only saving grace is she has nice hair... look late 20's

Yuki (19) - can speak jap hahahah.. not bad singing, look early 20's pretty friendly also

XingXing(??) - dont know her number, cant sing, but has this super rich old man as supporter.. looks early 20's slender and small face.

HuangHuang - the singer manageress... she very friendly, i think she must be quite hot when she was young... her singing is not bad.

Beer is S$38 a jug. pretty expensive...


hmm one thing weird about this place is the customer not bad. the gals who cant sing still can get like 100 to 500 flower during "PaiPai Chang" but then those who can sing.. hahahahha.. 50 only. but then the customer who hang mostly quite elderly... hahaha.. the waitress was saying "Lau Niu Chi Neng Chow"

oh well i am also going into the "Lau Niu" category soon.., so i hope there will be "Neng Chow" for me to eat hahahahahha.

ok end of FR.

2 person number that you have not stated the number is 50 and 20 la ...Both have big supporter la ....Ha ..Ha ....

LiLi have big supporter la .. ...

Good Lucks 2 U la and Cheong with Care la .......................

[saytoomuch]

Where is Artists?

Legend: very small, had around 7 singers when I was there, only 1 I thought was cute but she was already well supported. Hangings can be bigger due to hi-end KTV, but much less popular than DC or LP so hangings also smaller



Yup only few singers.
Good service though by waitresses/waiters.
In hall with beer standby $100. Relatively cheap.

Room $428 Martell
9pm to 11pm Happy hour offer 2x Martell for $600+ (maybe 688)
Tips for GROs and songer flowers separate

[myebook2008]

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[K9696]

So quiet for this Thread.. Let me put mi FR last night at 60's..

Show for a new gal arrived 1 mth ago. Been there onli last wk and this wk
to happen to know this new gal.
<Last night also another show - Birthday gal show>

Quite numbers of tables, saw 1 group regulars, almost weekly 3times, its like
a 2nd home for them.. so sure knew all the gals from old timers to the new
timers..

One old man just next to mi table coming alone before the show - half an hours, then onli 2 or 3 gals and mms was there to greet him and mingle with
him..........

When the shows started.. mms starts to jio the Old man....bla.. first flower 500 - first song..... (about finishing .. no others hanger)

2nd song started, saw mms again.. instigate him again... then another 500...
(Again.. no other hanger...except him old man)

3rd song started, lai leow.. mms play biggest role leow.. "SaiNai..him" then..
1000..(pong pong leow).. 2000 for 3 songs.. plus a little small flowers from
about 300 from mi table and "Jia mei flowers"

Break time, one dancer came out... --- 1 song...

4th song started, mms jio HIM again.. I think another 1000 lor...(pong!pong!)

5th song started, He become champion again, I think this time 2000 leow..
(pong... pong... pong... pong...)

Singer started ended the song.. then the old man table, become very crowded
with singers leow.. many gals started to crowd to his table and drink and merry go round lor... then MMS, again.. "SAI NAI“ him again.. ask him if
we asked the gal to come another song, how much u 1 2 hang... this time old
man.. put up 5000... so mms told all waitress, got ready.. they shouted ...
shouted for the singer to come out another song.. another song.....

of course, she oblige... then... all waitress started to carry the golden flowers
out...then the "PING PING PONG PONG" started.. and 5000 was hanged..:p

What a night of amazing customer, one and onli.. during economy downturn.
Maybe some bro here say.. "got monies no where to spend" haha:D

Thanks.. for your time reading this simple FR.. cheers.. happy weekend.:p

[roamersg]

thanks for update, I also disappointed this thread so quiet lately, but admit I haven't been going lately either. Guess even though you say house almost full, once others saw this big hanger (and figured he was her bf?) they decided just to watch than join

Heard HK Nights closed down from a singer (though no surprise if true given how bad its business was every time i was there), hope Peace Centre not losing too much momentum

[QQ Lover]

Heard HK Nights closed down from a singer (though no surprise if true given how bad its business was every time i was there), hope Peace Centre not losing too much momentum
NHK signboard lights outside are still light-up, no sign of being closed down.

As for latest visit, I went to Le Forbidden City 紫晶城 this week, located at 2nd floor Eminent Plaza, another joint by the Pudong management.

The concept similar to Macau, Sanborg and Jade. Got 21 rooms, non-mummy system. The HF which is only 2 weeks in operations, abt 15 singers, some not bad looking.

Bros can check it out.

[Oceanlee]

lol.. Those that come singapore to be singers are very well trained in talking..

she says stress.. need face.. its hinting to u.. that u must help her.. lol

She says but now i willing.. but u must support me first..

debt?? family problem?? no lah.. China where got so poor thing now..
they just want to earn easy money.. dont come and bullshit me their family in shit form.. its all bullshit.. i bet my last cent with u..

In china a lot of people have better talents.. they are the average or the rejects thats why come singapore.

Was entertained my clients recent nights,
Just got to know this 20yr SYT Singer at Petain Rd.... told me 工做压力很大，then I told that I can 减轻你的压力，she told me, need to build up friendship first and she left 02 mths here and still no BF, only friends come to support her ... wahaha what the BS story.

Anyway as a gesture I tips her 50bucks and fly 4x$50 flowers that night on her. :D As I am inside the KTV room (where directly I am able to view Stage) she smile and accompany me after every songs. :p Too bad the Asst Mummy was my target that night. :D

Overall this joint singer's abt 20 of them half CMI and the rest I will rate 7.2/10 got a few abt 7.5~8.0 looks and figure.

So its the Rule, dun get HOOK, or else you are screwed up.
say is easier than doing it. :o

[allinone]

So its the Rule, dun get HOOK, or else you are screwed up.
say is easier than doing it. :oFxxk and forget is the cheongster no1 rule.

[Smeagol]

What a night of amazing customer, one and onli.. during economy downturn.
Maybe some bro here say.. "got monies no where to spend" haha:D



10K for 作秀 show is quite normal in HFJ.... nothing ultra spectacular. 50's or 60's whatever it's called now do have a following of well heeled customers :)

Last show I've seen at Nite HK (crappy joint) also 10K+++

[myebook2008]

Did you guys ever think to stop th HFL visiting ? This can become an addiction additional to smoke and drink.

I stopped to go any HFL since 2 weeks ago, busy to be with my family and my small business, continue my sports games with all friends. Now I feel so relaxed, and life is back.

Last visit, I went out with 3 gals, to have hot-pot, so late until 5am. I do not think my health is able to support such kind of night life. After that, suddenly I made my decision.

Do not scold me to say that. I have visited most of the places, some mentioned by you guys, have enough fun already, kind of retiring.

I will stay in the thread, to continue to see all funs you guys have. Do leave a message to me one day you feel tired of night life. Maybe we can have some StarBucks talk.

By the way, I will still go HH KTV, up to 9pm, just nice.

[saytoomuch]

What a night of amazing customer, one and onli.. during economy downturn.
Maybe some bro here say.. "got monies no where to spend" haha:D



Saw in 50's long ago two jerks competing to give banners/flowers to a China singer who was not pretty and cannot sing. $100K that night. Was that stupid or what?

Saw in DC a show by singer going back to China for a break. One of her supporters alone gave $50K banner (one banner of $50K), not counting all the other banners from other supporters. Total maybe more than $120K.

Don't try to understand this.

[Chengdu dog]

Saw in 50's long ago two jerks competing to give banners/flowers to a China singer who was not pretty and cannot sing. $100K that night. Was that stupid or what?

Saw in DC a show by singer going back to China for a break. One of her supporters alone gave $50K banner (one banner of $50K), not counting all the other banners from other supporters. Total maybe more than $120K.

Don't try to understand this.

No wonder China property market raising also fast :D Singapore men is really generous despite PRC whores calling them stupid

[myebook2008]

No wonder China property market raising also fast :D Singapore men is really generous despite PRC whores calling them stupid
Agree, hard to understand. Heard there is way to do money laundery, not sure how it works. If that is the case, just hang lor. Can any guru explain ?

[K9696]

:p:DAgree, hard to understand. Heard there is way to do money laundery, not sure how it works. If that is the case, just hang lor. Can any guru explain ?

maybe, he already conspire w the singer saying if I hang 50k tonight,
he will gives her 10% comm = 5k, then 45k given back by the company for her total allowance..
<just opinion, dun frame me..>:p:D

[fox989c]

all flower hang company will take 30%, but alot of customer can negotiate with the company. and the singer will take 70%, this between the customer and the singer to arrange.
just for info

[DO_YOU_BJ]

all flower hang company will take 30%, but alot of customer can negotiate with the company. and the singer will take 70%, this between the customer and the singer to arrange.
just for info

Bro i think you r very wrong in your statement.
Excuse me if I'm wrong cos me only a noob newbie
Splits range from 50/50 all the way till 90/10 depending on amount singer hits for that said month.
Also, for the company to even entertain a patrons nego, that patron better be of some power and conributor to the stage.
Else, i think they'll just hear what the patron says FOR FACE SAKE ONLY and laugh while they walk away.......

Like i said, i may be wrong, let the many gor gors here to clarify better

[saytoomuch]

Now I recall, it was on the 19 May 2006, a Friday night around 11pm.
(two jerks competing in 50's to throw $100K banners/flowers to a China singer who was not pretty and cannot sing)

[n733]

Bro i think you r very wrong in your statement.
Excuse me if I'm wrong cos me only a noob newbie
Splits range from 50/50 all the way till 90/10 depending on amount singer hits for that said month.
Also, for the company to even entertain a patrons nego, that patron better be of some power and conributor to the stage.
Else, i think they'll just hear what the patron says FOR FACE SAKE ONLY and laugh while they walk away.......

Like i said, i may be wrong, let the many gor gors here to clarify better


50/50 if canot hit quota...the rest varies with diff company.....:D

[otur]

can any bro advice me where is 银河？heard is around goldenmile area.
many thanks...

[Fishcer]

Bro i think you r very wrong in your statement.
Excuse me if I'm wrong cos me only a noob newbie
Splits range from 50/50 all the way till 90/10 depending on amount singer hits for that said month.
Also, for the company to even entertain a patrons nego, that patron better be of some power and conributor to the stage.
Else, i think they'll just hear what the patron says FOR FACE SAKE ONLY and laugh while they walk away.......

Like i said, i may be wrong, let the many gor gors here to clarify better

U r really tooo modest....:D

[QQ Lover]

There is a new place due to open soon at Sultan Plaza, 4th and 5th floor. I happen to be there and went in to look at the place where renovation is in progress. This is in the same building as Armani KTV.

It looks like a HFJ with KTV rooms with full glass panels. Anybody got any information ?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

This place is due to open real soon.
Its a high end joint thus will really segregate the budget and non budget cheongers
Will be interesting to see the impact it'll bring when it has when opened

[fox989c]

this joint open on 8th sept. think the name cal CLUB 1

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Opened by the mgt of Club Jaguar

[otur]

There is a new place due to open soon at Sultan Plaza, 4th and 5th floor. I happen to be there and went in to look at the place where renovation is in progress. This is in the same building as Armani KTV.

It looks like a HFJ with KTV rooms with full glass panels. Anybody got any information ?

This place is due to open real soon.
Its a high end joint thus will really segregate the budget and non budget cheongers
Will be interesting to see the impact it'll bring when it has when opened

this joint open on 8th sept. think the name cal CLUB 1

Opened by the mgt of Club Jaguar

sorry guys, answering me or just another place to go?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

sorry guys, answering me or just another place to go?

Apologies Otur 哥哥, we're talking about the new joint at Sultan Plaza

[Big Semens]

Some ex-Sandborg singer join there

[K9696]

:DOpened by the mgt of Club Jaguar

Yes, heard from one mms - temporary in Mirage, mms will move back to this
new joint...:D

[Owen7]

Club 1 converts the cinema into KTV. Will be posh place.

[Smeagol]

Opened by the mgt of Club Jaguar

In my opinion, even though Club Jaguar tried to up market themselves, it was a crappy joint nothing close to the havelock higher end joints standard...... I would keep my expectations rock bottom low.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

In my opinion, even though Club Jaguar tried to up market themselves, it was a crappy joint nothing close to the havelock higher end joints standard...... I would keep my expectations rock bottom low.

Aiyoh boss, give others a chance ma.....
But poor men like me, will still end up only in budget joints la hehehehee

[Smeagol]

Aiyoh boss, give others a chance ma.....
But poor men like me, will still end up only in budget joints la hehehehee

hU poor men... very farnie. U poor than I everyday go market pick veggies from the floor, cut tree bark cook together and eat leow.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

hU poor men... very farnie. U poor than I everyday go market pick veggies from the floor, cut tree bark cook together and eat leow.

Remember to invite me for this ORGANIC meal hor hehehe

[K9696]

veri quiet for this thread.. Any bros/seniors got any latest FR..

Which joints are the most happening place lately?:D:p

[puritylee]

veri quiet for this thread.. Any bros/seniors got any latest FR..

Which joints are the most happening place lately?:D:p
I went recently to Tuberose but there is a small section there got hang flower. 10+ girls mostly mid to late twenties, 1 or 2 SYT. Can check it out

[saytoomuch]

7 month started and HFJs have less business. People go out less or they attend free getai or ghost festival dinners. Some afraid during this period to go out late. After bidding in auction at such dinners, got no money left for HFJs. This is the dry season for HFJs.

[teraterm55]

hmmm been seeing some bros asking for super budget joint that dont look like some run down shit house... well i have one recomendation.

STEY CLUB.. aka Nan Tien. located at the building beside Liang Court.
Beer S$17 a jug. (after plus plus its S$18 you can see that price on the BIG Sign board)

They have 3 pool stable and about 16 singers and 4 dancers/singers, 2 sections and 3 rooms.

the lighted section you can just sit there chit chat with the gals, play pool surf on your computer quite relaxing.

the darker area is where the stage is, they have 2 pool tables there.

flower i heard start from S$10 but i always just hang S$50.

Usually they have the individual singers singer and then the dancers will perform their dance. total of 3 sets of singing, 2 sets of dance and 1 pai pai chang.... singer to look out for is Jap gal Aya (she is chinese but has jap foster parents... and speaks perfect jap... honto kawaiiii, uso janai.)

[K9696]

hmmm been seeing some bros asking for super

STEY CLUB..

chang.... singer to look out for is Jap gal Aya (she is chinese but has jap foster parents... and speaks perfect jap... honto kawaiiii, uso janai.)

Bro. Hei, wakarimashita, Yoroshiku onegaishimasu:D:p

[puritylee]

7 month started and HFJs have less business. People go out less or they attend free getai or ghost festival dinners. Some afraid during this period to go out late. After bidding in auction at such dinners, got no money left for HFJs. This is the dry season for HFJs.
The same hardcore players will still be around.

[Big Semens]

Was at Le Forbidden City at Eminent Plaza. Placed took over by Pudong, opened in 1 July 09 with abt 20 rooms and HF operations. The HF only started 1month ago, with 16+ girls, age around mid 20s.

One thing good is the singing start early at 8.30pm, and the PPC is twice at 11pm and 1 pm. Start early so can go back after PPC, no need stay so late. During PPC, 1 guy celebrate his bird-day so hung each of the 16 singers $200+$100 = $4,800 ! Then all the singers come down in one row to shake the hands of the birdie-man (in his 50s) .... what a nice sight !

I left after the 1st PPC... I won't reveal how much I hang and who I hang .... else my ID will be exposed :D

[XiBeiSong]

Was at Le Forbidden City at Eminent Plaza. Placed took over by Pudong, opened in 1 July 09 with abt 20 rooms and HF operations. The HF only started 1month ago, with 16+ girls, age around mid 20s.

One thing good is the singing start early at 8.30pm, and the PPC is twice at 11pm and 1 pm. Start early so can go back after PPC, no need stay so late. During PPC, 1 guy celebrate his bird-day so hung each of the 16 singers $200+$100 = $4,800 ! Then all the singers come down in one row to shake the hands of the birdie-man (in his 50s) .... what a nice sight !

I left after the 1st PPC... I won't reveal how much I hang and who I hang .... else my ID will be exposed :D

Heard of this joint but haven been there. One of my friends who been there told me the decor quite nice. Besides the singers, the gals who sit table also quite pretty. mostly from china. Will visit this place soon.

[Owen7]

Was at Le Forbidden City at Eminent Plaza. Placed took over by Pudong, opened in 1 July 09 with abt 20 rooms and HF operations. The HF only started 1month ago, with 16+ girls, age around mid 20s.

One thing good is the singing start early at 8.30pm, and the PPC is twice at 11pm and 1 pm. Start early so can go back after PPC, no need stay so late. During PPC, 1 guy celebrate his bird-day so hung each of the 16 singers $200+$100 = $4,800 ! Then all the singers come down in one row to shake the hands of the birdie-man (in his 50s) .... what a nice sight !

I left after the 1st PPC... I won't reveal how much I hang and who I hang .... else my ID will be exposed :D
At 11pm, I came out of the room to see the PPC ! It was nice atmosphere !

[K9696]

Was at Le Forbidden City at Eminent Plaza. Placed took over by Pudong, opened in 1 July 09 with abt 20 rooms and HF operations. The HF only

I left after the 1st PPC... I won't reveal how much I hang and who I hang .... else my ID will be exposed :D

Bro. dun worry, we won't ask how much you hang.. heehee:p:D
We only interested in the singers...haha

[Chengdu dog]

7 month started and HFJs have less business. People go out less or they attend free getai or ghost festival dinners. Some afraid during this period to go out late. After bidding in auction at such dinners, got no money left for HFJs. This is the dry season for HFJs.

HFJ singers should learn from 歌台 singers strip 脱脱脱 then customers like us will be back to support them :D

[cockscrew]

Some bros may know.
Actually those singers in the small joints along Serangoon Road area are real pitiful. These joints have more singers than customers; basically no business.
Typically these singers have some quota ($3k) to hit first before they get a cut of the flowers hung.
Hence most of them get zero income (because below target) from working around 2030 to 0200hrs each nite.
Minimum daily expenses (taxis, food, lodging) are already a big challenge, not to talk about making money.
They have strict rules regarding AWOL and MC.
Officially they have 1 day off per month.
They may quit but then they have to return home straightaway.
Most of them spend a lot of money to come to Sinkapoor in the first place.

Of course the lucky few may get somebody to support them but these are the minority.

[cx75]

Some bros may know.
Actually those singers in the small joints along Serangoon Road area are real pitiful. These joints have more singers than customers; basically no business.
Typically these singers have some quota ($3k) to hit first before they get a cut of the flowers hung.
Hence most of them get zero income (because below target) from working around 2030 to 0200hrs each nite.

Bro, you mean they don't get anything if the flower is $3K and below? I dont think this is possible, maybe they have a fix salary eg. 1k if below $3K flower. I know of one joint, if the flower is below $4.5K, the singer will get a fix salary of $1.5K. Singer with no big flower, this arrangement is good but not for singer with supporters.

[cockscrew]

Bro, you mean they don't get anything if the flower is $3K and below? I dont think this is possible, maybe they have a fix salary eg. 1k if below $3K flower. I know of one joint, if the flower is below $4.5K, the singer will get a fix salary of $1.5K. Singer with no big flower, this arrangement is good but not for singer with supporters.
hahaha...yes different joints have different systems.
For some joints, many of these so called singers are working for free; no income and no freedom.
If the joint offers a basic salary....she should thank her lucky stars.

[myebook2008]

hahaha...yes different joints have different systems.
For some joints, many of these so called singers are working for free; no income and no freedom.
If the joint offers a basic salary....she should thank her lucky stars.

It is gradual salary system. i.e. If you hit 3K, you get 50%, you hit 10K, you get 80%, if you can not make any money, too bad. I do not think there is any fixed salary for them. If the business is really that bad, these girls will go to some KTVs around, like DC, CJ for the HH session to earn some money for their living.

Agree, they are very pitiful. Customers there are not so generous, normally hang 100/200 duing PPC time only. I went to two small joints around there, business is bad. These places are really run-down, so just browse once only to feel. Some of them can actually sing well, but in general, not looking so beautiful compared to joints in citi area. So if you are happy with someone, you get her number, just call her to some better KTV or even normal KaraOK places during HH, send them back after that to continue their lonely life.

By the way, rich singers know how to make money and spend money. You can check these poor singers's handphone, not to be surprised it very good ones, new model. So even more pitiful lah.

[K9696]

Bro, you mean they don't get anything if the flower is $3K and below? I dont think this is possible, maybe they have a fix salary eg. 1k if below $3K flower. I know of one joint, if the flower is below $4.5K, the singer will get a fix salary of $1.5K. Singer with no big flower, this arrangement is good but not for singer with supporters.

I once entered there, half an hour later, I called it quit.. :D
I think BD / CJ still got the average good choice of singers..;)

[XiBeiSong]

Some bros may know.
Actually those singers in the small joints along Serangoon Road area are real pitiful. These joints have more singers than customers; basically no business.
Typically these singers have some quota ($3k) to hit first before they get a cut of the flowers hung.
Hence most of them get zero income (because below target) from working around 2030 to 0200hrs each nite.
Minimum daily expenses (taxis, food, lodging) are already a big challenge, not to talk about making money.
They have strict rules regarding AWOL and MC.
Officially they have 1 day off per month.
They may quit but then they have to return home straightaway.
Most of them spend a lot of money to come to Sinkapoor in the first place.

Of course the lucky few may get somebody to support them but these are the minority.

Thats a sad fact. Not only those joints u mentioned, many joints elsewhere also same problem. Some singers tell me there are some days where whole night not one single customers. They have spent a lot of money back home just to get here. Really pity them but there is nothing much that i can do. Except hanging some pity flower for them which does not help at all.

[XiBeiSong]

Bro, you mean they don't get anything if the flower is $3K and below? I dont think this is possible, maybe they have a fix salary eg. 1k if below $3K flower. I know of one joint, if the flower is below $4.5K, the singer will get a fix salary of $1.5K. Singer with no big flower, this arrangement is good but not for singer with supporters.


There are some joints when you dun hit $3k u get nothing. There are some joints where u hit $1k u get 50%. So depends on the joints. The one u know is only one of the many permutations that HFJ adopts.

[Big Semens]

Some bros may know.
Actually those singers in the small joints along Serangoon Road area are real pitiful. These joints have more singers than customers; basically no business.
Typically these singers have some quota ($3k) to hit first before they get a cut of the flowers hung.
Hence most of them get zero income (because below target) from working around 2030 to 0200hrs each nite.
Minimum daily expenses (taxis, food, lodging) are already a big challenge, not to talk about making money.
They have strict rules regarding AWOL and MC.
Officially they have 1 day off per month.
They may quit but then they have to return home straightaway.
Most of them spend a lot of money to come to Sinkapoor in the first place.

Of course the lucky few may get somebody to support them but these are the minority.
The singers are real pitiful, but the culprits are the HFJ Bosses !

Between the singer and Bosses, the Boss is sure win situation. If he has 15 singers with targets of example, $7K each, his monthly gross income of $105K or more is sure get because the singer have to top up to that amount if can't make it. For each singer, he already make certain % of the agency fee shared with the Agent.

Flower Income + F&B Income - Overheads - Rental - Misc = $$$ Profits Normally.

The boss also earn frm singer by deduct $500 (at some joints) if they fail to get 1 table booking for that week, singer have to pay $500 to stay in apartment rented by Boss (non-negotiable in some cases) so Boss earn, and the singers get sent back if consecutive 2 months fail to meet flower target.

So there is no end. More and more HFJ are opening, more and more PRC come. The sad cases are many, success cases are few.

Last week, a singer sit with my fren crown herself $1K by hanging for herself (she pay herself).... in order to meet month target or else get deducted $2000....

This month would be bad for the singers becos some of the customers will spend their cash at the 7 Month $$$$$$$$ ....

[cockscrew]

Last week, a singer sit with my fren crown herself $1K by hanging for herself (she pay herself).... in order to meet month target or else get deducted $2000....

This month would be bad for the singers becos some of the customers will spend their cash at the 7 Month $$$$$$$$ ....

KNN...really hard to imagine if u have to work and then instead of getting an income, u have to compensate the boss because most of the time, the targets are impossible to meet.
I am scratching my head to see if any other profession give such a raw deal

[saytoomuch]

It is exploitation by HFJ operators.
This kind of work arrangement is like slave labour.
Problem is that the HFJ singers have not yet cottoned on to appealing as a group to MOM for help.
HFJ singers are also workers.
Because they knew for sure that in back in PRC their Govt does not care; so they thought same here.
If general public knows through a news article; and there is some written protest by PRC embassy on their behalf; maybe MOM will put the squeeze on the HFJ operators.

But I think the singers tolerate it for one thing.
That is to have the exposure in the HFJ so they can meet a benefactor (singers don't care if he is young or old, good looking or ugly, as long as extremely rich). Singers do not even care if he wants to keep them as casual GF or mistress instead of marrying them.
As long as the loads of money roll in.

Then the singer got it made. She strike lottery. She catapult into Tai Tai life style overnight. Even if the affair is over many years later, she would have scraped enough money from rich benefactor to return to PRC and live a millionaire life style.

The HFJ singers are not looking for love. Or to start a family with you. (can somebody tell ChinaCity that?)
They may (many are) already be married and have a husband (much better looking than you and younger too) back in PRC. But they are not going to tell the rich benefactor.

That is why the singers tolerate these unethical HFJ operators. She is not here to hope for your once-in-a-while $200 flower/banner.

[Big Semens]

THe HFJ is a complex operations, more than meets the eye. A lot of cash flow involved.

Me hang only small flower and Pity Flower nia ..... :D

[makemecum]

Some bro...
Hence most of them get zero income (because below target) from working around 2030 to 0200hrs each nite.
Minimum daily expenses (taxis, food, lodging) are already a big challenge, not to talk about making money.
They have strict rules regarding AWOL and MC.
Officially they have 1 day off per month.
They may quit but then they have to return home straightaway.
Most of them spend a lot of money to come to Sinkapoor in the first place.

Of course the lucky few may get somebody to support them but these are the minority.

yeah, HFJ blood suckers!!!:mad:

[makemecum]

THe HFJ is a complex operations, more than meets the eye. A lot of cash flow involved.

Me hang only small flower and Pity Flower nia ..... :D

yeah right, like bleaching:confused:

[K9696]

[QUOTE=Big Semens;4073415]The singers are real pitiful, but the culprits are the HFJ Bosses !


The boss also earn frm singer by deduct $500 (at some joints) if they fail to get 1 table booking for that week, singer have to pay $500 to stay in apartment rented by Boss (non-negotiable in some cases) so Boss earn, and the singers get sent back if consecutive 2 months fail to meet flower target.


QUOTE]

Bro.. this sentence is so familiar... one the joint singer also said this to me..
(Maybe you and me are referring to the same joint..haha)
very pitiful... but we can't do anything except - maybe 1 month 1 time,
so called - consolation flower for them as a friend..:p

[DO_YOU_BJ]

singer have to pay $500 to stay in apartment rented by Boss (non-negotiable in some cases) so Boss earn, and the singers get sent back if consecutive 2 months fail to meet flower target.

one the joint singer also said this to me..
(Maybe you and me are referring to the same joint..haha)
very pitiful... but we can't do anything except - maybe 1 month 1 time,
so called - consolation flower for them as a friend..:p

Hahahaha you mentioning about 6th floor ya
Consolation as a friend????
High end joint min 100 this joint 20
So you gonna console her wif 20bucks????
Pls la bro, nottin to console one
Many of them, got carrots who give them cash etc etc, and even if you go there everynite to observe their flowers, you'll be amazed why they're still not sent back yet????????
散花easier to consolidate to a bigger amount on month end as compared to major HFJs.
To date, from lack of flowers, i think i only know 2 that were actually sent back from there cos they got no sugar daddy plus they cant even hit 2k per month.
There's a hidden truth in HFJ, where you can actually BY a singer by by putting $$$$$ straight into her flower tally without hanging anything.
So, the truth of the matter is that, there are several singers who are BY for the quota only, and all other $$$ earned is actually win win for her and also less impact for the one who BY her.
Remember, the FRIENDS concept is not important la bro, cos if you dun hang even consolation flowers, see got friend or not.....
Just my humble opinion

[ONEON]

The singers are real pitiful, but the culprits are the HFJ Bosses !

Between the singer and Bosses, the Boss is sure win situation. If he has 15 singers with targets of example, $7K each, his monthly gross income of $105K or more is sure get because the singer have to top up to that amount if can't make it. For each singer, he already make certain % of the agency fee shared with the Agent.

Flower Income + F&B Income - Overheads - Rental - Misc = $$$ Profits Normally.

The boss also earn frm singer by deduct $500 (at some joints) if they fail to get 1 table booking for that week, singer have to pay $500 to stay in apartment rented by Boss (non-negotiable in some cases) so Boss earn, and the singers get sent back if consecutive 2 months fail to meet flower target.

So there is no end. More and more HFJ are opening, more and more PRC come. The sad cases are many, success cases are few.

Last week, a singer sit with my fren crown herself $1K by hanging for herself (she pay herself).... in order to meet month target or else get deducted $2000....

This month would be bad for the singers becos some of the customers will spend their cash at the 7 Month $$$$$$$$ ....
Great insight bro B Semens,

Few months back, dongmen wanna sack a singer but she lucky got a robert talk to management, and top up for her

[otur]

too many hidden stories in HFJ la.
wanna enjoy, dun get emotionally involve.
juts remember they dun come here look for love.
they come to look for money.
just let yr money do the talking.
more money talk louder. less money talk softer lor.
sometime u do get lucky to appear at the right place at the right time.
my bext record was to bed someone with just a $50 飞花。
but guess what? after that also have to support book table n do show n all.
so ultimately nothing is free.
i do know someone who is back in sg the 3rd time.
very nice to me, can onz almost anytime.
but at times i still kana book table.
wanna chiong happily, just dun bother what problems they have.
spend within your means n u are safe.
regarding the MOM complaint n all, i dunno if anyone is aware.
singers are not allowed to 坐台 at all. and a basic salary was declared thats why the tax they have to pay.
if u tulan the system, just dun go lor.

[K9696]

Hahahaha you mentioning about 6th floor ya
Consolation as a friend????
High end joint min 100 this joint 20
So you gonna console her wif 20bucks????
Pls la bro, nottin to console one
Many of them, got carrots who give them cash etc etc, and even if you go there everynite to observe their flowers, you'll be amazed why they're still not sent back yet????????
散花easier to consolidate to a bigger amount on month end as compared to major HFJs.
To date, from lack of flowers, i think i only know 2 that were actually sent back from there cos they got no sugar daddy plus they cant even hit 2k per month.
There's a hidden truth in HFJ, where you can actually BY a singer by by putting $$$$$ straight into her flower tally without hanging anything.
So, the truth of the matter is that, there are several singers who are BY for the quota only, and all other $$$ earned is actually win win for her and also less impact for the one who BY her.
Remember, the FRIENDS concept is not important la bro, cos if you dun hang even consolation flowers, see got friend or not.....
Just my humble opinion

Thank you LaoDa. I just added some comment to this HFJ, so that this thread
will alive,, at least we know how other bros think .. and we can be more
careful with our wallet..ya..:D
My consolation flower is very minimal, 50, haha.. go there chit chat, pay
the tips and go home, sleep tight tight...;)
Cheers

[Chengdu dog]

The HFJ singers are not looking for love. Or to start a family with you. (can somebody tell ChinaCity that?)
They may (many are) already be married and have a husband (much better looking than you and younger too) back in PRC. But they are not going to tell the rich benefactor.

That is why the singers tolerate these unethical HFJ operators. She is not here to hope for your once-in-a-while $200 flower/banner.

Not only to ChinaCity but please tell these to some old men as well :D I know some rich old men running private companies to bao these singers 中国妓女 giving them a lot of money to build houses & feed their men back in China.

Poor old men spend their entire CPF saving on these whores too :D the wealth of mainland China is mainly contribute by Singapore men.

So I should say China & our CPF is very much related :D

[Chengdu dog]

too many hidden stories in HFJ la.
wanna enjoy, dun get emotionally involve.
juts remember they dun come here look for love.
they come to look for money.
just let yr money do the talking.
more money talk louder. less money talk softer lor.
sometime u do get lucky to appear at the right place at the right time.
my bext record was to bed someone with just a $50 飞花。
but guess what? after that also have to support book table n do show n all.
so ultimately nothing is free.
i do know someone who is back in sg the 3rd time.
very nice to me, can onz almost anytime.
but at times i still kana book table.
wanna chiong happily, just dun bother what problems they have.
spend within your means n u are safe.
regarding the MOM complaint n all, i dunno if anyone is aware.
singers are not allowed to 坐台 at all. and a basic salary was declared thats why the tax they have to pay.
if u tulan the system, just dun go lor.

hi bro otur, a question for you ?

If the singers is without basic salary, income base flowers from customers.

Do they need to to pay individual income tax to IRAS on their earned income after 6 months here :confused:
In these context, they should be a tax resident in Singapore not in PRC.

Or just like KTV girls after earning remit money back into their China bank accounts :D

[marji]

used to frequent flower joints quite often. now slowed down alot due to no kakis...sigh, long story...

so any bros here don't mind, do jio me along if you guys are going...

particularly curious about those smaller joints like macau and forbidden city??

cheers....

[myebook2008]

Just came back from Baidu. Although Sunday, business is very good tonight. one customer's gentle man singer can even do high skill jump. This is the 2nd time I came here, same as last time, I just watch my Tennis, and no girls are interested on me. Very lucky, enjoy my Tennis (Nadal ro someone 32, his country man), at the same time listen to the songs. Two singers are good there. I do not have their names, sorry.

One guy is quite interesting, his own gal sing "Wo Wen Tian", Hokkien song of Wen li You, he hangs 1000. And he also hangs for some girls to accompany him. Good guy, very happy and really enjoy HFJ feel.

Since no girls are interested on me, I choose to save mone, give 50$ tips for waitress. Will come here more, very less spending here.

I used to go to another two HFJ, Fuji in Capage Plaza and Club 188, I have to hang flowers for quite some of them after I get to know most of them. Actually I only want to support one of them.

Anyway HFJ is a strange business in Singapore, I can not understand why people like this. Look at myself, want to quit, then one night can not control, went to NanTian, hang flower 300+200 for a new girl. I think I am a bit too much sometimes.

Baidu gals are normal, not that beautiful as DC. but most of them are quite friendly.

Any kaki there today ? next time, we can form a bigger group. Most of the time, I am do things myself.

[marji]

Just came back from Baidu. ....
I used to go to another two HFJ, Fuji in Capage Plaza and Club 188,....
Look at myself, want to quit, then one night can not control, went to NanTian, hang flower 300+200 for a new girl. I think I am a bit too much sometimes.
.....

went to Baidu before a couple of times when it first opened.... not many lookers there thogh...

quite close with the singer mummy at Nantian, so was there a couple of times too. not too bad the place...

been to 188 once and but was in a rush so didn't managed to scan the singers properly.

was at a flower joint just now at Windsor level 4. must say there were a couple of singers very beautiful there. and what i gathered from a sup there, many are without supporter now. maybe can try my luck...

special mentions: singers no. 1, no. 2 and no. 18. Especially no. 1 who looked like a mixed blooded. super friendly and great great voice...

[Loving_Dickhead]

Poor old men spend their entire CPF saving on these whores too :D the wealth of mainland China is mainly contribute by Singapore men.

So I should say China & our CPF is very much related :D

CPF = China Poverty Fund :D

[K9696]

Just came back from Baidu. Although Sunday, business is very good tonight. one customer's gentle man singer can even do high skill jump. This is the 2nd time I came here, same as last time, I just watch my Tennis, and no girls are interested on me. Very lucky, enjoy my Tennis (Nadal ro someone 32, his country man), at the same time listen to the songs. Two singers are good there. I do not have their names, sorry.

One guy is quite interesting, his own gal sing "Wo Wen Tian", Hokkien song of Wen li You, he hangs 1000. And he also hangs for some girls to accompany him. Good guy, very happy and really enjoy HFJ feel.

Since no girls are interested on me, I choose to save mone, give 50$ tips for waitress. Will come here more, very less spending here.


Baidu gals are normal, not that beautiful as DC. but most of them are quite friendly.

Any kaki there today ? next time, we can form a bigger group. Most of the time, I am do things myself.

Few mths back, used to go there to watch EPL..etc.. mms is from HCao..
the gals are average looker, but why no one entertain you, is funny, I thot
the mms should be the one to entertain you or even the Assistant MMS,

The waitresses are very friendly.. can make friends.. good to chit chat if you
have no singer to company you..:p

[Big Semens]

Baidu gals are normal, not that beautiful as DC. but most of them are quite friendly.
Hang $100 for DC singers, they come say hello, and yeeba never see them again, whereas the small joints hang $100 the singers sit long long...

[Smeagol]

One guy is quite interesting, his own gal sing "Wo Wen Tian", Hokkien song of Wen li You, he hangs 1000. And he also hangs for some girls to accompany him. Good guy, very happy and really enjoy HFJ feel.

Look at myself, want to quit, then one night can not control, went to NanTian, hang flower 300+200 for a new girl. I think I am a bit too much sometimes.
.

Sunday was the last day for one of the singer manageress. If the interesting guy u talking about is 40+, botak and wear specs, he is the singer mangeress' boyfriend lah. Loaded fella, work in the shipping biz drives a porche. The other singers just leeching onto him. He abit kennak gong tau from this singer manageress leow... got one time they had a big fight.... guess how he make up with her?? hang 10K for her. 1K, 2K is nuthing to him lah.

To quite.. you need 2 things. 1) cold Turkey 2) Find other fun activities to distract you lor.

went to Baidu before a couple of times when it first opened.... not many lookers there thogh...

was at a flower joint just now at Windsor level 4. must say there were a couple of singers very beautiful there. and

Singers who were with Baidu when they first open all finish contract go home leow. Some even back for rounf 2, round 3 in other hfj. If you think back then no lookers... I tell you now even worst.

The windsor joint u mentioned sounds like 爱上.

[cx75]

Singers who were with Baidu when they first open all finish contract go home leow. Some even back for rounf 2, round 3 in other hfj. If you think back then no lookers... I tell you now even worst.
The windsor joint u mentioned sounds like 爱上.

Bro, you really explored many HFJ. You can be our info provider. Haha :p

Went to Club 188 last friday, they have few new singers, not bad looking but the manageress there suck, got attitude problem. :mad: She will not come to your table unless you hang her flower, not even a hello handshake. Have been going there for the past three months, her attitude still like that. May not want to go there anymore since the singer went back already. I wonder how the joint can survive with such lousy manageress.

However, there is another manager, 乔峰, very friendly with good PR skill but unfortunately he has no power.

[marji]

The windsor joint u mentioned sounds like 爱上.

yes bro, thats the place... you been there before?
didn't wanna say the place in open but guess its ok....

[Chengdu dog]

CPF = China Poverty Fund :D

哈哈哈.. 没想到我们 Singapore men have major contribution to China society :D

[saytoomuch]

At Stey last weekend.
They had PPC.
Some singers got nothing at the end of the PPC.
The assistant lady manageress kept urging the people present to hang for them.
It kept going.
That was breaking the unspoken rules of the HFJ.
If people want to give, they give.
If not, pack it and let the PPC be over and done with.

It was pressurising for the clients.
Humiliating for the singers on the stage.

It was a big No No.

[Dayview2004]

Bro, you really explored many HFJ. You can be our info provider. Haha :p

Went to Club 188 last friday, they have few new singers, not bad looking but the manageress there suck, got attitude problem. :mad: She will not come to your table unless you hang her flower, not even a hello handshake. Have been going there for the past three months, her attitude still like that. May not want to go there anymore since the singer went back already. I wonder how the joint can survive with such lousy manageress.

However, there is another manager, 乔峰, very friendly with good PR skill but unfortunately he has no power.

wow...bro den i no more kaki liao...hehehee

everytime i go she always come and shake hands or talk to me for awhile.

bro you noe my min is $ 30 and max also $ 30....hehehee...but now will increase as you noe who is back...min will be increase and appearance in dat joint oso increase

[otur]

wow...bro den i no more kaki liao...hehehee

everytime i go she always come and shake hands or talk to me for awhile.

bro you noe my min is $ 30 and max also $ 30....hehehee...but now will increase as you noe who is back...min will be increase and appearance in dat joint oso increase

lidat meh......
looks like i better go back to chinatown. hahaha

[Chengdu dog]

Singapore old men & fat men can only get recognition from PRC singers (whores) in HFJ :D

[cockscrew]

Singapore old men & fat men can only get recognition from PRC singers (whores) in HFJ :D

hahaha...u missed out the most important factor...RICH$$$.
Nationality and size and age count for nothing lah.....

[Chengdu dog]

hahaha...u missed out the most important factor...RICH$$$.
Nationality and size and age count for nothing lah.....

Some old men or fat men also not rich but still managed to con or borrow fellow cheongsters' money to maintain their PRC WL :D


PRC singers are here to earn money so you think they will be truthful to these old men :rolleyes:

[marji]

At Stey last weekend.
They had PPC.
..... No No.

where is this Stey??

[saytoomuch]

where is this Stey??

Aka Nan Tian.
River Valley Building next to Liang Court.

Asia Travel : Map of River Valley Building (S) 179033 (http://www.streetdirectory.com/asia_travel/travel/travel_id_7291/travel_site_12877/)

Formerly SISIR located there long ago.

Very run down toilet. Turns you off.
The operaton is struggling to survive. You can sense it.

Spend your money at DC better.

[XiBeiSong]

went to baidu just now. First time there n understand from the manager that most singers just arrived. Sat with one quite young. Not so much a looker but can sing quite well. Got another 2 singers also can sing well too. Overall the place nice.

[Big Semens]

went to baidu just now. First time there n understand from the manager that most singers just arrived. Sat with one quite young. Not so much a looker but can sing quite well. Got another 2 singers also can sing well too. Overall the place nice.
Where is Baidu ? Thanks

[Liuda]

Where is Baidu ? Thanks

At Craig Road Off Tanjong Pagar Road or can come in also from Neil Road. Very convenient with ample parking. Located at ground level, easily to find.

Nice comfortable place. Look new and well maintained. Was there last week, heard from singer manager that new singers arriving this week. So it is true as posted by the other bro.

[saytoomuch]

maybe at Craig Road

[Big Semens]

Thanks for the info. Got time go check it out.

BTW, an industry player told me that there already 200 HFJs registered. I figure maybe 100, but maybe there are still some yet to be discovered.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

There r so many HFJs around
Some very HOT some just little unnoticed joints
200 is a close estimate

[Alan Ong]

Thanks for the info. Got time go check it out.

BTW, an industry player told me that there already 200 HFJs registered. I figure maybe 100, but maybe there are still some yet to be discovered.
There are indeed some very un-noticed ones around. Can you imagine that there is one at B1 of Adelphi ? Check it out ! The pics of the simgers looks nice.

[Liuda]

Went to check out the 2 HFJ at Eminient Plaza, Lavender St., 2 days ago.

Le Forbidden (紫晶城）3rd floor, main hall medium size, smoky:(. Have rooms, saw non-singer mei mei around. No manager approach me, staff staff like M'sian. Singing in main hall not continuous, in between periods of dance music but nobody dance. At PPC, counted 16 singers, only 3 can do, the rest CMI. Of the 3, one looks like Ella of SHE. :D
Revisit? : not likely

Next Huang Du (皇都）second floor, related to HuangChao at Middle Road.
Smaller and simpler than HC, no rooms. Service staff are friendly, some from PRC. Two managers- one man, one woman.
12 PRC singers, one late 20s or early 30 from Chongqing sings well. The rest are acceptable ktv singing standard. Lookwise, all pass above average and better, with some good lookers. Worthy of mention is 1 SYT, dance very well with ample frontal. She received $1k cannon plus several $300 that night. The rest received between $100 to $300 at PPC.
Revisit? : Yes

[chenzong]

May I ask what PPC stands for?

[Peggie83]

There r so many HFJs around
Some very HOT some just little unnoticed joints
200 is a close estimate

bro DO_YOU_BJ is the king of HFJ.

Been to one unnoticed joint lately to my astonishment the singers are just like KTV gals can sit inside dark dark KTV room can french, ruba, finger & strip to totally naked at a price :) OMG what has this world have become ????

[Liuda]

May I ask what PPC stands for?

PPC=排排唱 or Singers' parade, when all singers on stage and each sing a portion of her favourite song. Time to milk the $$ from patrons.

Funny thing is some like to come esp for the PPC, to view all the singers; while some like to disappear just before PPC, for their own reasons. :D

[XiBeiSong]

bro DO_YOU_BJ is the king of HFJ.

Been to one unnoticed joint lately to my astonishment the singers are just like KTV gals can sit inside dark dark KTV room can french, ruba, finger & strip to totally naked at a price :) OMG what has this world have become ????


R u refering to the one near aljunied mrt?

[n733]

May I ask what PPC stands for?

pai pai chang...排排唱。:D

[saytoomuch]

modus operandi of HFJ

singer sits with you uninvited or maybe mummy/mgr intro
knowing you won't be rude to tell her go away
singer make small talk
later during PPC
waitresses/waiters/mummy/manager/other singers will harass you to buy a flower or banner for the uninvited singer
PPC is a time for HFJ to ask/demand/cajole $ from the clients present
it is a most important time for the HFJ to cover their operating expenses

but singer with big-timer supporter is not keen on PPC as she already getting tonnes of dough in their private affair

however for their "show" just before they go back to China for a while or when they are in Sing on their birthday, then it is a matter of face for the singer to get $$$ from big supporter

[soundworks]

bro DO_YOU_BJ is the king of HFJ.

Been to one unnoticed joint lately to my astonishment the singers are just like KTV gals can sit inside dark dark KTV room can french, ruba, finger & strip to totally naked at a price :) OMG what has this world have become ????The singers have to be GROs when there are not enough freelance girls or else the place sure close shop.

[otur]

R u refering to the one near aljunied mrt?

Been to one unnoticed joint lately to my astonishment the singers are just like KTV gals can sit inside dark dark KTV room can french, ruba, finger & strip to totally naked at a price :) OMG what has this world have become ????

The singers have to be GROs when there are not enough freelance girls or else the place sure close shop.

so whereeeeeeeee is this place leh..........
PM if not telling in open. many thanks ya :D

[Big Semens]

bro DO_YOU_BJ is the king of HFJ.

Been to one unnoticed joint lately to my astonishment the singers are just like KTV gals can sit inside dark dark KTV room can french, ruba, finger & strip to totally naked at a price :) OMG what has this world have become ????
Where ? Jaguar, K2 ?

[Peggie83]

R u refering to the one near aljunied mrt?

The singers have to be GROs when there are not enough freelance girls or else the place sure close shop.

so whereeeeeeeee is this place leh..........
PM if not telling in open. many thanks ya :D

Where ? Jaguar, K2 ?

This HFJ is in Selegie road & the minimum cost of flowers is $20.
This place operate a bit like gangster joint, the singers & waitresses are quite rude except the manageress are friendly.

I wun share more but the singers are wild inside the KTV rooms & can go ST at a price, you guys can explore there more :)

[otur]

This HFJ is in Selegie road & the minimum cost of flowers is $20.

bro, selegie very long road leh.
can pm the location n name?

[puritylee]

Went to check out the 2 HFJ at Eminient Plaza, Lavender St., 2 days ago.

Le Forbidden (紫晶城）3rd floor, main hall medium size, smoky:(. Have rooms, saw non-singer mei mei around. No manager approach me, staff staff like M'sian. Singing in main hall not continuous, in between periods of dance music but nobody dance. At PPC, counted 16 singers, only 3 can do, the rest CMI. Of the 3, one looks like Ella of SHE. :D
Revisit? : not likely
Feel quite the same as you...

[chenzong]

pai pai chang...排排唱。:D

It seems to operate differently here in Shanghai, where the managers/MC (主持) will arrange for 2-3 rotations of singing, dancing and even jokes-telling (so far always dirty ones), each rotation with different songs, dances and jokes.

Some big shots even give flowers to the managers/MC for their jokes-telling sessions (normally they do it, but sometimes they bring in a singer to tell jokes with them), and even for the dancers, not just the singers.

The performance sessions normally begin at about 2200 (although the bar opens at 2000) and end at about midnight, depending on the number of clients present.

I believe the rotations should be similar to the 排排唱 here. And so far I have yet to encounter pressures by management to give, although it is a matter of "face" to support the singer who counts you as a "friend".

[Dayview2004]

bro, selegie very long road leh.
can pm the location n name?

bro dun forget o bring me there...ok

[mark21]

There is a new place due to open soon at Sultan Plaza, 4th and 5th floor. I happen to be there and went in to look at the place where renovation is in progress. This is in the same building as Armani KTV.

It looks like a HFJ with KTV rooms with full glass panels. Anybody got any information ?

Any update of this new joint... till now still never hear about the operation...

[marji]

bro DO_YOU_BJ is the king of HFJ.

Been to one unnoticed joint lately to my astonishment the singers are just like KTV gals can sit inside dark dark KTV room can french, ruba, finger & strip to totally naked at a price :) OMG what has this world have become ????

wow... sure??

bro, can PM me the joint?? hehehe

[Big Semens]

Dynasty Classic has a new batch of dancers that started dancing on Monday. The new batch are more petite, 2 of them not bad looking. The previous batch are taller and bigger size so look big on stage.

Will check them out. All from Jilin.

[Peggie83]

wow... sure??

bro, can PM me the joint?? hehehe

PM you already :)

[juan mao]

is the new KTV next to Armani KTV??? If im correct the new joint name is called Club One

[marji]

bro dun forget o bring me there...ok

i also wanna go... hehehe...

[itomichi]

bro dun forget o bring me there...ok

Bring U only meh, I tot the whole old TH/BS should go there together. It is time for gathering. This will bring back many old memories!!

[itomichi]

pai pai chang...排排唱。:D

Bro when are we going Jade together again?

[itomichi]

Bro, you really explored many HFJ. You can be our info provider. Haha :p

Went to Club 188 last friday, they have few new singers, not bad looking but the manageress there suck, got attitude problem. :mad: She will not come to your table unless you hang her flower, not even a hello handshake. Have been going there for the past three months, her attitude still like that. May not want to go there anymore since the singer went back already. I wonder how the joint can survive with such lousy manageress.

However, there is another manager, 乔峰, very friendly with good PR skill but unfortunately he has no power.

Bro 188 is already history to you liao.

Your new chapter is starting soon end this month at ................ and ai and N733 are eagerly waiting for you calls. AHahah!!!!!

[cx75]

Bro 188 is already history to you liao.

Your new chapter is starting soon end this month at ................ and ai and N733 are eagerly waiting for you calls. AHahah!!!!!

Bro, so long never see your posting.

Indeed, my six-mths cycle going to start liao. :p hehe, bro ai may also be like me. Lets wait and see. :D

Last week went to 唐 with few bros, the old singers mostly left already. The new batch of singers quality has dropped. The mami there just got promoted but the bad point is, she will push singer to sit with you and ask you to hang flower later.

[itomichi]

Bro, so long never see your posting.

Indeed, my six-mths cycle going to start liao. :p hehe, bro ai may also be like me. Lets wait and see. :D

Last week went to 唐 with few bros, the old singers mostly left already. The new batch of singers quality has dropped. The mami there just got promoted but the bad point is, she will push singer to sit with you and ask you to hang flower later.

Yah that red cloth gal keeps calling him every day, good luck to him!!!

[我回來了]

Any idea when Club One (below Armani KTV) open for business ? It was supposed to be opened early this month. Heard some problem with license approval.

[Dayview2004]

i also wanna go... hehehe...

you in HFJ den sure jio you. pm me your number and i will reciprocate...hehehee

[Dayview2004]

Bring U only meh, I tot the whole old TH/BS should go there together. It is time for gathering. This will bring back many old memories!!

sorri...forgot u....hahaha

[DeltaOne]

Bro
Jade girls quite nice...was there last night. The singers quite okay, i think got 1 or 2 from club Macau...

[Alan Ong]

Dynasty Classic has a new batch of dancers that started dancing on Monday. The new batch are more petite, 2 of them not bad looking. The previous batch are taller and bigger size so look big on stage.

Will check them out. All from Jilin.
Yeah, this new batch smaller frame size, overall swee. There are quite a few new singers too.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Newcomers like me (newbie here) that no boyfriend lol can hang a reasonable amount to hook them :D

Using a reasonable to hook them is not what makes it a KILL.
Its what you didnt SPEND that makes u a winner

[XiBeiSong]

was having dinner with frens last nite. Then decide to go for a drink. Wanted to go  but frens wan go to the one above. On 7th floor. Singer there ok only. A few really cannot sing. But got one sit with my fren. Heard is a long timer there. Can sing quite well, can dance also, looks ok. My fren hang her 500 then  go fuck at nearby hotel. N i alone there finish up the beer. 500 can go for quick fuck. Next time must try. :)

[Big Semens]

was having dinner with frens last nite. Then decide to go for a drink. Wanted to go  but frens wan go to the one above. On 7th floor. Singer there ok only. A few really cannot sing. But got one sit with my fren. Heard is a long timer there. Can sing quite well, can dance also, looks ok. My fren hang her 500 then  go fuck at nearby hotel. N i alone there finish up the beer. 500 can go for quick fuck. Next time must try. :)
Where exactly is the place ? Legend @ 7th Flr ? Nowadays got 200 HFJs in Sillypore so many, now very easy to on them.

Your fren pay extra to buy her time go out to bonk ? Because you said you continue drink the beer.

[XiBeiSong]

Where exactly is the place ? Legend @ 7th Flr ? Nowadays got 200 HFJs in Sillypore so many, now very easy to on them.
A
Your fren pay extra to buy her time go out to bonk ? Because you said you continue drink the beer.

Bro let me clarify:
1 the place is at middle rd. 7th floor, above another hfj huang chao.
2 my fren hang flower of 500 which entitle him to buy time of the singer. So can consider worthy fuck. Hehe

[Big Semens]

Bro let me clarify:
1 the place is at middle rd. 7th floor, above another hfj huang chao.
2 my fren hang flower of 500 which entitle him to buy time of the singer. So can consider worthy fuck. Hehe
$500 include buy time of not bad deal with bonk. Win-win situation. The man get to song, the girl meet target.

[myebook2008]

A few singers I know all went back, Contract over, so now no annoying phone or SMS. I really like you guys, to have so much energy, interest, time, most IMportant money to enjoy all pretty girls. Carry on.

[我回來了]

A few singers I know all went back, Contract over, so now no annoying phone or SMS. I really like you guys, to have so much energy, interest, time, most IMportant money to enjoy all pretty girls. Carry on.
What is important is "play within your means".

[Kranji Boy]

Using a reasonable to hook them is not what makes it a KILL.
Its what you didnt SPEND that makes u a winner

Bro I must Salute U man ....
Without SPEND and can hook the Singer to go 9x9 with U ......
Those Singers are from which Joint ? Introduce ley ? Which Joint you often go and maybe me should joint U and learn from U ley ..........

Cheers and Good Lucks ...............

[K9696]

$500 include buy time of not bad deal with bonk. Win-win situation. The man get to song, the girl meet target.

some of them the look apartment - u won't like it.. if you frequent to 6th floor..CJ.. >>they are not your type.. haha:D

needless to say about the body..:p