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Malaysian Datuk
23-12-2005, 06:16 PM
Been hanging out recently with friends who frequent such joints, must say I'm a little hook......mostly PRCs singers.....hang 'flowers' or sash......no outright hanky panky but slow befriending process......maybe I'm getting old but these joints seemed like a breath of fresh air......any bros into this kind of entertainment?:)

durex
23-12-2005, 06:20 PM
Bro good leh now into hang flower joints liao,but mostly fishing type but once the fish up the hook its yours for makan liao,singer mode kekeke:p

Malaysian Datuk
23-12-2005, 06:23 PM
Bro good leh now into hang flower joints liao,but mostly fishing type but once the fish up the hook its yours for makan liao,singer mode kekeke:pYet to have any real success......but already baited one and reeling in.....(maybe she's saying the same about me!):o

juzjoin
23-12-2005, 06:30 PM
it was a hit back in the mid nineties when i was based in Thailand.. the garland of flowers will be 'beautified by the 100, 500. 1000 bahts' that goes round it....

Loss in Space
05-01-2006, 05:06 PM
Been hanging out recently with friends who frequent such joints, must say I'm a little hook......mostly PRCs singers.....hang 'flowers' or sash......no outright hanky panky but slow befriending process......maybe I'm getting old but these joints seemed like a breath of fresh air......any bros into this kind of entertainment?:)

Hi Bro,

Glad to know that there is a thread on this. I am also hooked big time. Any advise what to watch out. Thanks

Rof|maoxz
05-01-2006, 05:08 PM
Hi Bro,

Glad to know that there is a thread on this. I am also hooked big time. Any advise what to watch out. Thanks

So where you hang around? I only go XianZi before. Buddy bring me there one. :)

Loss in Space
06-01-2006, 08:57 AM
So where you hang around? I only go XianZi before. Buddy bring me there one. :)


Only being to New Park Hotel (Pub 181). :)

teraterm55
06-01-2006, 12:30 PM
hehehhe.. hang flower joint.
not alot in singapore but there there are a few that has nice singers and environment. I usually just follow people around, but can say have been to quite a few places. lets see if this can be of help to some bros. Beer prices are the last i been there, so might have changed since.

Yang Tze KTV (Chinatown)
Singers : Malaysian, PRC, Singaporen
Beer : 28

Snookers KTV (middle road)
Singers : PRC
Beer : 36

Cleopetra KTV (middle road ?)
Singers : PRC (has dance performance every now and then, and theme night)
Beer : 38

Hoomiko KTV (Jalan Besar)
SIngers : PRC
Beer : 38

New Shanghai(Excelcier Hotel)
Singers : PRC, Malaysian
Beer : 38

Las Vegas KTV
Singers : PRC, Taiwanese, Singaporean
Beer : 100

Tian An Men KTV
Singers : PRC, SIngaporean
Beer : 100

Triumph Arch (Balestier)
Singers : PRC, Malaysian
Beer : 28

Serangoon Plaza KTV?? (forgot the name, but its at serangoon north shopping centre)
Singers : Malaysian, PRC
Beer : 25

anyway would advise you stick to one place and get popluar there.
but do beware, small amount adds to huge amounts, and beware of singers
that ask you to give them tips instead of hanging flowers.

Recently business have been bad for a few places, so they might act poor and ask you for money.

Also remember if you bring them out during their singing hours you have to pay fine. some places have 3 performance time, 9pm, 11pm and last performance at 1am.... the KTV/BAR fine also varies for these times.
I would suggest dont waste money and get them out after they finish performance which is around 1.30am (usually)

Malaysian Datuk
06-01-2006, 01:57 PM
Thanks bro T55......let me add one more.....Collyer Quay......pure hang flowers beer garden with well over 25 girls (PRCs, malaysians, local even one Thai)...and the Serangoon joint you mentioned....is it Gemini? Got Thai singer......Datuk like:) Also got people told me Broadway (old Rex cinema) closed down liao but recently passby like got some activities....any updates? Cheers!

Malaysian Datuk
06-01-2006, 02:00 PM
Only being to New Park Hotel (Pub 181). :)Not been there in awhile......I think the same boss as the recently defunct Starlight 181 in Kallang KFC.......now changed name to Zenith (chinese name Zhing Nan Hai) but yet to check out this joint.......

Horsepower
06-01-2006, 02:16 PM
Hang flowers may seem very glamorous, the split is 70 to girl and 30 to the ktv. If really wanna impress and "fish" the girl, give to the girl directly better.

teraterm55
06-01-2006, 05:58 PM
Thanks bro T55......let me add one more.....Collyer Quay......pure hang flowers beer garden with well over 25 girls (PRCs, malaysians, local even one Thai)...and the Serangoon joint you mentioned....is it Gemini? Got Thai singer......Datuk like:) Also got people told me Broadway (old Rex cinema) closed down liao but recently passby like got some activities....any updates? Cheers!

Rex confirm closedown liau lor, but then someone taking over turning into Disco. Ya. beside rex also have a small KTV underground one called dont know what dangdut.. have PRC and minah singer.

as for thai.. hmm dont know leh.. thai not my cup of tea hahahha.. i cant understand what they singing. serangoon place last time have thai but the last time i was there.. no thai

teraterm55
06-01-2006, 06:06 PM
Hang flowers may seem very glamorous, the split is 70 to girl and 30 to the ktv. If really wanna impress and "fish" the girl, give to the girl directly better.

well the split depends lor. some place is 50-50 some 60-40 some 70-30
some start with 50-50 and if they hit a target its 60-40 and then 70-30
and some if they hit a target they get basic salary also.

and if you give the girls directly and they dont hit the target for a few months, you might find them gone, most KTV will send the singer back to china or ask them to leave if they cannot hit the target.

i would suggest you find a place that can give you 90-10 split. and if the gal is your gal... you only pay 10% to the KTV.

i know alot of people who have this priviledge, they hang 10K flower and then only pay 1K to the KTV, and then pay the gal 1K.. and they get the glory of hanging 10K. Dynasty classic is famous for that..

and also sometimes dont fall for the flower war trick. last time was asked by a manager in Dynasty classic to help hang fake flower. whenever he sms me, i will hang a certain number of flower to some singer. and the singer will put on a show look at me smile and all that.. that night itself i "hang" like 40K of flower.. but then the other party who wanted to target the singer hung like 60K worth. . well the whole idea in the first place is for me to Stimulate the other party into a war. so that he will hang more and more.

I know of other places that does that. the serangoon place is famous for this.

hunter1234
06-01-2006, 08:59 PM
hehehhe.. hang flower joint.
not alot in singapore but there there are a few that has nice singers and environment. I usually just follow people around, but can say have been to quite a few places. lets see if this can be of help to some bros. Beer prices are the last i been there, so might have changed since.

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Also remember if you bring them out during their singing hours you have to pay fine. some places have 3 performance time, 9pm, 11pm and last performance at 1am.... the KTV/BAR fine also varies for these times.
I would suggest dont waste money and get them out after they finish performance which is around 1.30am (usually)


bros...one of the largest "hang flowers" joint is Dynasty Classic...

on an average night is easily 10K...one a good night easily >25K...on final night of "stars" highest i have witnessed was 50K for that singer alone.

usually there are around 14-18 singers at a time. good quality in terms of singing...

www.dynastyclassic.com.sg

i will be going later !!!

gangjian
06-01-2006, 10:28 PM
bros...one of the largest "hang flowers" joint is Dynasty Classic...

on an average night is easily 10K...one a good night easily >25K...on final night of "stars" highest i have witnessed was 50K for that singer alone.

usually there are around 14-18 singers at a time. good quality in terms of singing...

www.dynastyclassic.com.sg

i will be going later !!!

Thanks to bro hunter1234 for bringing up DC. If we're talking about hanging flowers, which me too a big fan of, DC is THE place! One senior bro here (evo3) is the authority on DC. You can search his posts on this to know more about the place.

I've been frequenting DC last year, really liked it. There are several singers who can easily sell a lot of records (if they have good producers, that is). An economical way of reccing at DC is to sit at the bar stool. You only pay for a jug of beer and nuts. You can sit there the whole night listening to their singing and dancing.

Cleopatra (aka Xianzi, on Princep Link & Bencoolen) is another joint I went in the past. But after seeing DC, it just can't compare. The ambience is too poor, doesn't look like a classy place at all. Not necessarily cheap either. I know a couple of singers there who are nice girls, but in terms of singing, not up to the notch.

gangjian
06-01-2006, 11:28 PM
well the split depends lor. some place is 50-50 some 60-40 some 70-30
some start with 50-50 and if they hit a target its 60-40 and then 70-30
and some if they hit a target they get basic salary also.

and if you give the girls directly and they dont hit the target for a few months, you might find them gone, most KTV will send the singer back to china or ask them to leave if they cannot hit the target.

i would suggest you find a place that can give you 90-10 split. and if the gal is your gal... you only pay 10% to the KTV.

i know alot of people who have this priviledge, they hang 10K flower and then only pay 1K to the KTV, and then pay the gal 1K.. and they get the glory of hanging 10K. Dynasty classic is famous for that..

and also sometimes dont fall for the flower war trick. last time was asked by a manager in Dynasty classic to help hang fake flower. whenever he sms me, i will hang a certain number of flower to some singer. and the singer will put on a show look at me smile and all that.. that night itself i "hang" like 40K of flower.. but then the other party who wanted to target the singer hung like 60K worth. . well the whole idea in the first place is for me to Stimulate the other party into a war. so that he will hang more and more.

I know of other places that does that. the serangoon place is famous for this.

Kudos also to Bro Teraterm for providing the list and showing the inner works at DC. I was wondering where did all those rich clients come from, who make us ordinary joe look like peanuts. Now I know.:D

Haven't been to DC for a while. But after the raid, business there was pretty bad. I went a few times, and each time I saw more than 1 singer end up with not even a penny of flower! Hey, if you come up and rescue them even with just the min. of $100, that money can go a pretty long way!

Loss in Space
09-01-2006, 11:11 AM
Haven't been to DC for a while. But after the raid, business there was pretty bad. I went a few times, and each time I saw more than 1 singer end up with not even a penny of flower! Hey, if you come up and rescue them even with just the min. of $100, that money can go a pretty long way![/QUOTE]


Bro,

Agree with u 50 50 only, like what was mentioned previously, normal people like us are really peanuts. If u want to 'save' the singers, u will have to carry a cart load full of cash! I tried to do so but the long term not possible lah. First you are the knight in silver armour but later you will become the 'white' knight because all the money all wash white white from you........

Bring to DC and sat down with a singer once, tried to tip her $100 but she rejected and ask me to hang flowers instead. When I was at the main hall, I realise $100 is just a loose change :eek: End up hanging $500.

The place I frequent is slightly better but I saw with my own eyes that a nice Chinese (I mean from China) gentleman hang $10K on a singer. How to compete??? There is always another mountain behind the hill. Only can sigh that I too young cannot have the financial to back my intent.........

Loss in Space
09-01-2006, 11:19 AM
Been hanging out recently with friends who frequent such joints, must say I'm a little hook......mostly PRCs singers.....hang 'flowers' or sash......no outright hanky panky but slow befriending process......maybe I'm getting old but these joints seemed like a breath of fresh air......any bros into this kind of entertainment?:)

Bro,

One thing to add, being 'hooked' to the hang flowers joint sometime has some little advantage. I have virtually stopped most of my FL adventures because all the funds have being channelled to the more 'healthly' song listening activities.

Any other activities derived from these joints would be bonus but the drawback is that you might have to give more than just money (maybe time and some feelings). Once a bro said that the cheapest sex could also be the most expensive one........

teraterm55
09-01-2006, 12:29 PM
Agree with u 50 50 only, like what was mentioned previously, normal people like us are really peanuts. If u want to 'save' the singers, u will have to carry a cart load full of cash! I tried to do so but the long term not possible lah. First you are the knight in silver armour but later you will become the 'white' knight because all the money all wash white white from you........

Each singer will have a certain target of flower they need to get a month, ranging from 4K to 20K a month. this also depends on the KTV they sing at.
If they are unable to hit the target either a Fine will be imposed (which is $$$ fine) or after a few continueous months, they will be asked to leave (either go back to china or goto other place).

so if you want to be silver armour knight. be prepared to fork out that amount A MONTH. thats 4K minimum, add the liquer cost and the transport. i would say you will be down 5K a month.. and for what ?? i dont know.
for me my max flower is just S$20. as apreciation of a good performance.

and ya.. the raid on DC is bad, there were rumours about the gals who got caught were tested HIV+. alot of efford went into covering it up. but reliable sources confirm that out of the many caught, a small portion was tested HIV+. How the gals caught it no one knows (unprotected sex or because of drug abuse??). But then my friends have had ben offered RAW session by DC gals before so you make your own guess.

gangjian
09-01-2006, 09:26 PM
Bro,

Agree with u 50 50 only, like what was mentioned previously, normal people like us are really peanuts. If u want to 'save' the singers, u will have to carry a cart load full of cash! I tried to do so but the long term not possible lah. First you are the knight in silver armour but later you will become the 'white' knight because all the money all wash white white from you........

Bring to DC and sat down with a singer once, tried to tip her $100 but she rejected and ask me to hang flowers instead. When I was at the main hall, I realise $100 is just a loose change :eek: End up hanging $500.

The place I frequent is slightly better but I saw with my own eyes that a nice Chinese (I mean from China) gentleman hang $10K on a singer. How to compete??? There is always another mountain behind the hill. Only can sigh that I too young cannot have the financial to back my intent.........

Very true lah! $100 really feels like pocket change at a joint like DC.

I always wonder what was in the big spenders' mind. If you just want sex with a nice girl, you can get an entire month of it from a better-looking girl (or multiple ones if you fancy) at TAM. If you want to show off or are engaged in a status competition, but show off to whom? oftentimes nobody in the audience know from whom the flower came from. What's the point? To impress the singer, to win her heart? It's probably easier and better to spend the money in other more romantic ways. Women sure don't like guys who are cheap, but they don't respect guys who pay for them either.

Well, I guess singers do have their special charm, don't they? They project a better and more attractive image on stage than those butterflying girls. And they seem to have more class, more exclusiveness. I for one somehow fall easily for these singers. :D

gangjian
09-01-2006, 09:30 PM
for me my max flower is just S$20. as apreciation of a good performance.


Hey, bro, where is this joint with a $20 flower? I sure want to check it out! Are the singers there any good?

Loss in Space
11-01-2006, 01:06 PM
Very true lah! $100 really feels like pocket change at a joint like DC.

I always wonder what was in the big spenders' mind. If you just want sex with a nice girl, you can get an entire month of it from a better-looking girl (or multiple ones if you fancy) at TAM. If you want to show off or are engaged in a status competition, but show off to whom? oftentimes nobody in the audience know from whom the flower came from. What's the point? To impress the singer, to win her heart? It's probably easier and better to spend the money in other more romantic ways. Women sure don't like guys who are cheap, but they don't respect guys who pay for them either.

Well, I guess singers do have their special charm, don't they? They project a better and more attractive image on stage than those butterflying girls. And they seem to have more class, more exclusiveness. I for one somehow fall easily for these singers. :D


I cant agree with you more. The charm, the class and the wonderful feeling that a good looking yet talented person is showering attention on you. This is so different compared to telling the mummy that you want a particular girl and then she will sit down and try to make you happy. The way they carry themselves is also much refined and some of them even have a certain attitude.

Women generally are like what you mentioned but crazy men like us would always begged that the one we like or got hooked to is different from the crop, but how many lucky cases are there? Not sure and not too optimistic with the statistics. Once know a PRC girl who visited Singapore recently (knew from my visit to China), she actually did some part time at Century, when we met for dinner once, she commented that Singapore guys' money is the easiest to earn. Just sit there talk dirty and she earns $200, nothing else. The funny thing was that the guy keeps coming back and ask for her, we were having dinner and the mummy keeps calling her to come to work. The business about trying to impress is really Singaporean and behind our backs, I wonder how many women are counting our money and laughing at us at the same time. Really a thing to think about.:rolleyes:

evo3
11-01-2006, 01:40 PM
Thanks to bro hunter1234 for bringing up DC. If we're talking about hanging flowers, which me too a big fan of, DC is THE place! One senior bro here (evo3) is the authority on DC. You can search his posts on this to know more about the place.

Bro Gangjian, dont said that I am the authority of DC lah, I am just one of those regular clinet over there that's all.
Talking about hanging flower, there was once in DC somewhere in May. I personally witness a short guy always wear white color T-Shirt with a bit of curly hair. He use to walk around in front of the stage. HaHa this guy dont play play with him. He already built his name in DC as " Flower King " that night alone he hang flower about $200k for himself. Even the other guy who use to sit on the right hand side of the table, he is a lawyer also lost to this "Flower King" but this lawyer very the ai sai, everytime he go there he always book at least 8 to 9 singers, maybe his is a singer siao. There was once I also witness this lawyer when he reach DC he found that his usual table was occupy by another customer, so he just stand there and wait even there are empty tables he also dont want to sit. so at last the boss (better dont put his name here lah not nice) asked the customer to move to another table just to fit this lawyer back to his regular table. Later I found out that the table is book by the lawyer everyday, whether he is there or not no ppl will sit that table.
One thing is this lawyer and the "Flower King" always hv free Gordon Bleu which is a 3 litre bottle sponsor by the boss, bcos they alwaya hang flower and the amount is not small. Ovet in DC there are at least 3 big timer hanging flower, one is the lawyer, another one is an old man who always like to ask those singer and dance with him in the small dancing hall and last but not least is the "FLower King" This flower king dont go there every nite, he will only go once or twice a mth. when he is there wah lau the whole place shake man. This is all that I know in DC. :D

teraterm55
11-01-2006, 01:57 PM
Hey, bro, where is this joint with a $20 flower? I sure want to check it out! Are the singers there any good?

lets see if i remember correctly.

Yang Tze Ktv (china town)
Hoomiko KTV (jalan besar)
MOJO KTV (tanjung pagar, changing to philipino joint),
The one at Upper Serangoon Shopping Centre (upper serangoon area)
Kai Xian Men (triump Arch, belestier)
XIan Tze (cleopetra, middle road)
Snooker (middle road)
..many more.. cant remember.


for the S$10 flower one there is
Hawaii

As for why people hang flower. i think its something like FACE,
the more they hang the more face they think they get. the singer
will flock to his table and also the papasan or mamasan and also
get special treatment. I think on other threads i have also said
some other reasons why people hang flower .. amount them is
1. Face(already stated above)
2. Wash Money (for those with connection with the singer and company)
3. Claim Ent and share profit (for japs and korean who have fixed ent to spend, and they know the singer)
4. 2 much money dont know where to spend (those retired people and super rich lonely men)
5. Realy apreciate the singing and performance (there are a few)

as for flower king... well there are a few around the most famous is hai ke, da yen chen.. etc. these people are known around the hang flower world because they can spend continuous 5-6K a day for 7 days a week,30 days a month they usually visit a different KTV everynite, and avoid those extremely high class place because they want to stay low profile. and they always use cash. plus every now and then they will set a record of 40-100K. I am still wondering where they get the money.

Sohni
11-01-2006, 02:01 PM
Hey guys,

Very interesting discussion on Singapore 'Hanging Flowers' joints. Keep it up! It's also very common in Bangkok.

Check out the discussion on Bangkok Night Clubs/KTVs scene by many bros and me.
http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=1326221#post1326221

teraterm55
11-01-2006, 02:21 PM
Hey guys,

Very interesting discussion on Singapore 'Hanging Flowers' joints. Keep it up! It's also very common in Bangkok.


singapore cannot fight with bangkok when it comes to atmosphere. hahaha been to a few in bangkok and the atmosphere is electrifying, with the singing and shows and all that.. hahah..
singapore its the usual, single singer sing, duets, and maybe a dance performance (only seen it at Yangtze and Xian Tze). plus there are actually some LEGAL restrictions to the singers. BY LAW they are not suppose to sit and entertain the customers, its stated in the permit given to them.
So when a raid happens always tell the officer, she just came to thank me for hanging flower for her, nothing more nothing less.

Sohni
11-01-2006, 02:35 PM
singapore cannot fight with bangkok when it comes to atmosphere. hahaha been to a few in bangkok and the atmosphere is electrifying, with the singing and shows and all that.. hahah..
singapore its the usual, single singer sing, duets, and maybe a dance performance (only seen it at Yangtze and Xian Tze). plus there are actually some LEGAL restrictions to the singers. BY LAW they are not suppose to sit and entertain the customers, its stated in the permit given to them.
So when a raid happens always tell the officer, she just came to thank me for hanging flower for her, nothing more nothing less.

Hi teraterm55,

You're absolutely right! The Bangkok ones are on a larger scale in terms of shows.

There're many restrictions in Singapore's entertainment laws. For example a Bangkok coyote dancer will come down to entertain and flirt with you when you buy them lady drinks. Just like what you said about the singers. If you put it into Singapore context. It is illegal to do that for a coyote dancer in a Singapore club. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

teraterm55
11-01-2006, 03:15 PM
Hi teraterm55,
It is illegal to do that for a coyote dancer in a Singapore club. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

i dont think they will allow coyote dancer in singapore club ahhahaha.
not sure, so far stage performers are to only perform onstage, as stated
in the public entertainment licence.

even the mixture of chinese performers and performers from other countries are not permitted. hence if a joint applies for thai or philipino singers, they cant have PRC singers and vice-versa.

entertainment laws there are really tight plus you have the public entertainment licence (the police is taking care of this), MOM (they catch overstayer and illegal workers), AV (they catch anyone doing funny things in KTV), CNB they catch drug users and god know what other departments are out there.

gangjian
11-01-2006, 09:42 PM
lets see if i remember correctly.

Yang Tze Ktv (china town)
Hoomiko KTV (jalan besar)
MOJO KTV (tanjung pagar, changing to philipino joint),
The one at Upper Serangoon Shopping Centre (upper serangoon area)
Kai Xian Men (triump Arch, belestier)
XIan Tze (cleopetra, middle road)
Snooker (middle road)
..many more.. cant remember.

Xian Zi got $20 flower mah? I always thought the minimum is $50. Maybe I've been fooled all along. :(

hunter1234
11-01-2006, 09:50 PM
Thanks to bro hunter1234 for bringing up DC. If we're talking about hanging flowers, which me too a big fan of, DC is THE place! One senior bro here (evo3) is the authority on DC. You can search his posts on this to know more about the place.

Bro Gangjian, dont said that I am the authority of DC lah, I am just one of those regular clinet over there that's all.
Talking about hanging flower, there was once in DC somewhere in May. I personally witness a short guy always wear white color T-Shirt with a bit of curly hair. He use to walk around in front of the stage. HaHa this guy dont play play with him. He already built his name in DC as " Flower King " that night alone he hang flower about $200k for himself. Even the other guy who use to sit on the right hand side of the table, he is a lawyer also lost to this "Flower King" but this lawyer very the ai sai, everytime he go there he always book at least 8 to 9 singers, maybe his is a singer siao. There was once I also witness this lawyer when he reach DC he found that his usual table was occupy by another customer, so he just stand there and wait even there are empty tables he also dont want to sit. so at last the boss (better dont put his name here lah not nice) asked the customer to move to another table just to fit this lawyer back to his regular table. Later I found out that the table is book by the lawyer everyday, whether he is there or not no ppl will sit that table.
One thing is this lawyer and the "Flower King" always hv free Gordon Bleu which is a 3 litre bottle sponsor by the boss, bcos they alwaya hang flower and the amount is not small. Ovet in DC there are at least 3 big timer hanging flower, one is the lawyer, another one is an old man who always like to ask those singer and dance with him in the small dancing hall and last but not least is the "FLower King" This flower king dont go there every nite, he will only go once or twice a mth. when he is there wah lau the whole place shake man. This is all that I know in DC. :D


bro...u refering to car plate #61 is it ? he has a stable of sports cars and all has the same number plate...he sides on the right side of the stage behind the pillar...one of the singers is his "gf".
there is another doctor also good friend of johnny...but not too regular recently...heard he hides in the room nowadays...
and the largest spender is chairman mao...cos his surname is mao...they call him jin mao or mao zhu xi...

i also got regular table there...hahahaha but cant tell u which one lahhhh :ppp

gangjian
11-01-2006, 10:05 PM
Women generally are like what you mentioned but crazy men like us would always begged that the one we like or got hooked to is different from the crop, but how many lucky cases are there?

Well, well, well, that's the mystery, isn't it? Is the one I like different from the rest?

For some reason, I've noticed that the singers I like are usually not the popular ones with other guests. Or, shall we say, they appear to be somewhat different (or at least, I let myself think so).;) I actually liked singers who do have an attitude, who are a bit aloof, and who do not go out of their way to please you. This means they do not readily market themselves as sexual objects. And it also means they usually are not the big earners in the club, which, I figure, allow me to have some time with them at all.

Well, this attitude thing may simply be another scheme to hook you up. But what makes it more interesting is the mental game. At least I have the illusion that she doesn't put everything of her humanity on sale, and you have to (and it's possible) to establish some personal connection with her.

The prize of the game is not sex. As Bro Loss in Space mentioned before, you actually cut down on the expenses in other sexual-adventures to spend more here in a "cleaner" way. It's more about the feeling, the human connection, the emotional comfort, the companionship, blah, blah, blah.

So my observation is: there are different types among the singers. And I know some of the attitude type actually resent the "everything-for-sale" type.

gangjian
11-01-2006, 10:10 PM
The place I frequent is slightly better but I saw with my own eyes that a nice Chinese (I mean from China) gentleman hang $10K on a singer.

Bro, where is this "better" place you referred to? Care to share?

gangjian
11-01-2006, 10:27 PM
As for why people hang flower. i think its something like FACE,
the more they hang the more face they think they get. the singer
will flock to his table and also the papasan or mamasan and also
get special treatment. I think on other threads i have also said
some other reasons why people hang flower .. amount them is
1. Face(already stated above)
2. Wash Money (for those with connection with the singer and company)
3. Claim Ent and share profit (for japs and korean who have fixed ent to spend, and they know the singer)
4. 2 much money dont know where to spend (those retired people and super rich lonely men)
5. Realy apreciate the singing and performance (there are a few)

as for flower king... well there are a few around the most famous is hai ke, da yen chen.. etc. these people are known around the hang flower world because they can spend continuous 5-6K a day for 7 days a week,30 days a month they usually visit a different KTV everynite, and avoid those extremely high class place because they want to stay low profile. and they always use cash. plus every now and then they will set a record of 40-100K. I am still wondering where they get the money.

Wow, bro T55, really learned a lot from you!

I used to think those singers at DC earn ridiculously a lot. Now looks like it's not that straightforward. They are "fake" flowers there for one thing. And looks like this world is pretty small. There are only that small group of big spenders who would dish out money like toilet paper. And even they, don't do it all the time at all joints. Much of the money still has to be earned the hard way: little by little. I know a singer at DC who even went back from having her own room to sharing with roommates. Well, of course, there are always those few lucky "girl friends" out there.

BTW, anyone know which singers at DC were already taken as gf? Don't want to bark up the wrong tree.

hunter1234
12-01-2006, 12:23 AM
BTW, anyone know which singers at DC were already taken as gf? Don't want to bark up the wrong tree.

bro why not u tell me who u wanna sian ? there are a few going back before CNY horrrr...u want better hurry...

evo3
12-01-2006, 02:33 AM
Bro hunter1234, in fact i was very regular to DC since last year April till Nov 2005. almost 3 to 4 times a week. most or DC rooms i already sat liao, usually when i go alone i will sit on those tall chair directly facing the stage. there is one singer call "Ya Xin" her figure sei pei chio one leh, than another "Fei Fei" she had a very good voice but went home liao. There got alot of high spender who like to hang flower to singers, those that you mentioned are all regular hanger.
Lately me too busy so go down not so frequent liao, maybe once a week not like 6 mths ago 3 to 4 times a week, but i always go ther about 11pm to 12am just nice for the show time that start around 12.30 to 12.45am. Go alone no need to give tips to PRC. :D

hunter1234
12-01-2006, 09:27 AM
Bro hunter1234, in fact i was very regular to DC since last year April till Nov 2005. almost 3 to 4 times a week. most or DC rooms i already sat liao, usually when i go alone i will sit on those tall chair directly facing the stage. there is one singer call "Ya Xin" her figure sei pei chio one leh, than another "Fei Fei" she had a very good voice but went home liao. There got alot of high spender who like to hang flower to singers, those that you mentioned are all regular hanger.
Lately me too busy so go down not so frequent liao, maybe once a week not like 6 mths ago 3 to 4 times a week, but i always go ther about 11pm to 12am just nice for the show time that start around 12.30 to 12.45am. Go alone no need to give tips to PRC. :D


orrr...i dont sit in the rooms...i only sit in the main hall. i know fei fei quite well...she always sings my fav songs...she and teacher simple always do special duets for my table whenever we were there...she may be coming back in feb according to johnny.
as for ya xin, you better hurry...she may be going back soon...so i heard.

we not power hanger but also quite regular...small ones only hahahaha after fei fei went back, we didnt show up for 3 months...that was around the time u frequent ! kakaka

Loss in Space
12-01-2006, 11:47 AM
Well, well, well, that's the mystery, isn't it? Is the one I like different from the rest?

For some reason, I've noticed that the singers I like are usually not the popular ones with other guests. Or, shall we say, they appear to be somewhat different (or at least, I let myself think so).;) I actually liked singers who do have an attitude, who are a bit aloof, and who do not go out of their way to please you. This means they do not readily market themselves as sexual objects. And it also means they usually are not the big earners in the club, which, I figure, allow me to have some time with them at all.

Well, this attitude thing may simply be another scheme to hook you up. But what makes it more interesting is the mental game. At least I have the illusion that she doesn't put everything of her humanity on sale, and you have to (and it's possible) to establish some personal connection with her.

The prize of the game is not sex. As Bro Loss in Space mentioned before, you actually cut down on the expenses in other sexual-adventures to spend more here in a "cleaner" way. It's more about the feeling, the human connection, the emotional comfort, the companionship, blah, blah, blah.

So my observation is: there are different types among the singers. And I know some of the attitude type actually resent the "everything-for-sale" type.

Bro,

Very scary leh, how come your thoughts are so alike. After chionging awhile really look forward to some form of connections. I think the word illusion is best used in this context. We allow ourselves to be living and enjoying this illusion to our best. Maybe it turns out bad or we are just plain fools, we have 'gotten' what we wanted. The ILLUSION.....

teraterm55
12-01-2006, 02:14 PM
Bro,

Very scary leh, how come your thoughts are so alike. After chionging awhile really look forward to some form of connections. I think the word illusion is best used in this context. We allow ourselves to be living and enjoying this illusion to our best. Maybe it turns out bad or we are just plain fools, we have 'gotten' what we wanted. The ILLUSION.....

well one way to save money to cheong these hang flower joint and be able to go there more often and spend more regularly will be to band together.
Form some kind of brotherhood of Flower hangers.

How it works is like this. Lets say we have a group of 5 person. and each person is will to fork out 100 for that day. the group will have a total of 500 to spare for that session. First outing one person become the BOSS and he will hang the 500 to his singer. Second outing another person become the BOSS. until all 5 person have became BOSS at least once.
This gives you more prestige and also spending power than going alone. and when you are not the boss you can hang flower, but it would be on your own expense or you can just sit and watch (takes super willpower).
so each outing plus drinks i would reckon you need to spend like 150.
once a week... thats only 600. But the group will be seen as BIG SPENDER (Not the super spenders wil the flower kings, but should give you sufficient face) because everytime you are there.. at least 500 flowers will be hung.

If you want to go there on your own. i would guess you would spend about 600 a month also. but then you would only be able to hang like 50 each trip.. compared to the 500.... its a huge difference in terms of FACE value. Plus being a regular there will give you more chance to CONNECT with the singer you like hahahahaha.

well this is a system that me and some bros have been practicing for some time. JUST MAKE SURE.. the bros are STEADY ones. dont take in dodgy character. or else after their turn of splurging 500 they would then make excuse not to attend the other outings until their turn to become BOSS again.

just my 1/2 cents worth of ideas.

Loss in Space
12-01-2006, 02:35 PM
well one way to save money to cheong these hang flower joint and be able to go there more often and spend more regularly will be to band together.
Form some kind of brotherhood of Flower hangers.

How it works is like this. Lets say we have a group of 5 person. and each person is will to fork out 100 for that day. the group will have a total of 500 to spare for that session. First outing one person become the BOSS and he will hang the 500 to his singer. Second outing another person become the BOSS. until all 5 person have became BOSS at least once.
This gives you more prestige and also spending power than going alone. and when you are not the boss you can hang flower, but it would be on your own expense or you can just sit and watch (takes super willpower).
so each outing plus drinks i would reckon you need to spend like 150.
once a week... thats only 600. But the group will be seen as BIG SPENDER (Not the super spenders wil the flower kings, but should give you sufficient face) because everytime you are there.. at least 500 flowers will be hung.

just my 1/2 cents worth of ideas.


Bro,

Sound like a good idea but have to find enough kaki to like the particular joint all together if not you end up going there once a month also no point. By the way, the amount you quoted is too low, me and two friends have chalked up about 8K to 10K for the month Dec.:eek:

teraterm55
12-01-2006, 03:40 PM
Bro,

Sound like a good idea but have to find enough kaki to like the particular joint all together if not you end up going there once a month also no point. By the way, the amount you quoted is too low, me and two friends have chalked up about 8K to 10K for the month Dec.:eek:

10K ?..... whaaa you different standard already ahhahaha.. then you must find groups that are your standard leh. then sure you will become the next flower king.

one advice, sometimes spending 10K in a big joint will mean nothing. but spending 10K a month in some mid or smaller joint.. you will become FLOWER EMPERROR

Loss in Space
12-01-2006, 05:30 PM
10K ?..... whaaa you different standard already ahhahaha.. then you must find groups that are your standard leh. then sure you will become the next flower king.

one advice, sometimes spending 10K in a big joint will mean nothing. but spending 10K a month in some mid or smaller joint.. you will become FLOWER EMPERROR

Bro,

Not different standard lah but a bit more drinking lor. High already go crazy, but true enough, a smaller joint can go a bit further. $10K is no joke hor, me also just a small timer............

teraterm55
12-01-2006, 05:59 PM
Bro,

Not different standard lah but a bit more drinking lor. High already go crazy, but true enough, a smaller joint can go a bit further. $10K is no joke hor, me also just a small timer............

10K sommore small timer.. 10K can consider medium timer liau. we dont compare with those Flower King with limitless funds. i think most of them are taukey... lots of money. once i ask hai ge why he hang so much. he say.. can claim ENT. if he dont hang money is profit, government take tax. so might as well hang it away... he enjoy better than give money to gov.

whatever their reason.... the one i most enjoy is during flower war. last time at "quan qui" saw one.. the singer suppose to sing one song. but because of flower war... boss ask singer to sing 3 songs. one table up 1K another table up 2888 then the first table up 6888 hahahaha.. really exciting

in the end the winning group damn alot of face.

evo3
12-01-2006, 09:51 PM
bro hunter1234, me too ever since fei fei went home i also seldom go down liao. this ya xin i think someone boa her oredi lah. if you look at ya xin carefully her face is one side big and the other side small, from far she looks pretty if too near she dont really look pretty.
when fei fei perform her last note in DC someone hang her $50k

hunter1234
12-01-2006, 11:41 PM
bro hunter1234, me too ever since fei fei went home i also seldom go down liao. this ya xin i think someone boa her oredi lah. if you look at ya xin carefully her face is one side big and the other side small, from far she looks pretty if too near she dont really look pretty.
when fei fei perform her last note in DC someone hang her $50k

bro evo3...i was there that night at my regular table all the way...johnny hang a few Ks...she didnt get the big ones but a lot of small ones...there was another singer ying ying also last night as her...2 of them totalled almost 100k that night. me small small only contributed a few hundreds...

fei fei may be back in feb horrrr


we went dinner with her before she flew off...

ya xin's bf on and off lah...ya ru is pretty on stage...

they going back soon !

evo3
13-01-2006, 04:49 AM
Bro Hunter1234, looks like you are also a so called flower hanger lah.
So when will be make a return back to where you belongs. :D

gangjian
13-01-2006, 09:39 AM
ya ru is pretty on stage...


She looks quite ordinary off-stage. But she's easily the best singer there. The second best could be Cherry. IMHO

I was there last Nov when it was the Beijing singer's (Mi Xue or smth) last night. Total went to around 50K. Quite a scene.

evo3
13-01-2006, 10:28 AM
this ya ru is quite new there, and this cherry she had a very good voice and i love her singing, especially when she sing togther with another gal always partner her. and she always act like a guy when they sing those couple songs. ya xin no voice the music always cover away her voice.

evo3
13-01-2006, 10:29 AM
jiao jiao also not a bad singer from far she dont looks nice when come near she is nice

hunter1234
13-01-2006, 11:04 AM
jiao jiao also not a bad singer from far she dont looks nice when come near she is nice

ya ru sings and dance well...also seldom smile...only during dancing...

cherry used to do that act with nana but nana has left...
mi xue's backer is rich...part of the chairman mao gang...

jiaojiao dont smile...like i owe her a lot of money !!!

new one qiqi also sings v v well...good voice and friendly...

bro evo3 me only a patron...me only hang for feifei cos i like her singing...my table for a few other friends who hang for the singers lah :D

gangjian
13-01-2006, 12:57 PM
Ya Ru: She's new? She seems to have a rich backer. Always got a lot of flower, even when not singing.

Jiaojiao: She's sweet, but her voice too weak, she dances well though. She's a bit too childish for my taste, not a good talker.

Qiqi: Yes, she's v v good:D. She's got class, but can be aloof sometimes. Doesn't seem to have much flower though. Dunno whether that changed lately.

Hey, how about Lele? I like her a lot. She sings well and talks well. Really a SYT!

hunter1234
13-01-2006, 01:41 PM
Hey, how about Lele? I like her a lot. She sings well and talks well. Really a SYT!

bro gangjian...lele went home liaooooo 30th dec was her last nite...poor thing...heard less than 10k...know her quite well...used to sit with us whenever my kaki was there.

gangjian
13-01-2006, 01:49 PM
bro gangjian...lele went home liaooooo 30th dec was her last nite...poor thing...heard less than 10k...know her quite well...used to sit with us whenever my kaki was there.

What! :mad: No wonder she didn't return my sms. What happened to her? She's been here barely half a year! Unable to meet the flower quota? Or some other personal issues?

This is too bad. My heart is broken. :mad:

hunter1234
13-01-2006, 02:41 PM
What! No wonder she didn't return my sms. What happened to her? She's been here barely half a year! Unable to meet the flower quota? Or some other personal issues?

This is too bad. My heart is broken.

bro bro...she was abt the same time as xiaoling...but went home for a month for a minor surgery...then back to spore...

when she come back i inform you ok ? but then may not be back to DC.
:rolleyes:

evo3
14-01-2006, 04:19 AM
yes this cherry n nana makes a very good pair.

evo3
14-01-2006, 09:45 AM
one thing i really dont like is the "Jian Tan Lau Shi" always like to make himself like a clown like that. Dont know is it bcos it a must or otherwise.

gangjian
14-01-2006, 11:06 AM
one thing i really dont like is the "Jian Tan Lau Shi" always like to make himself like a clown like that. Dont know is it bcos it a must or otherwise.

Totally agree!! He IS a clown! Some interactions with the singers are granted, but he's way over the top, often making himself the show. What he didn't get is that we're there to see the girls, not him!

hunter1234
14-01-2006, 12:39 PM
Totally agree!! He IS a clown! Some interactions with the singers are granted, but he's way over the top, often making himself the show. What he didn't get is that we're there to see the girls, not him!

*phew* was there till 2.30 last nite hahaha

teacher simple is paid to do this...he is probably the most famous teacher in this line...i heard from other joints' singers before and most of them knows him.

he is a nice guy lah...in entertainment line is like that.

btw nana is coming back soon also...yue-er just came back...got supporter last night.

evo3
15-01-2006, 02:09 AM
Bro Hunter1234, so you was there with your flower hanging kaki lah.
Think you always get those singer to sit your table one lah, you are those singers support am i rite. i suppose to go there yesterday bcos something pop up so never turn up.

darke
19-01-2006, 08:26 PM
Xian Zi got $20 flower mah? I always thought the minimum is $50. Maybe I've been fooled all along. :(

i used to go there. 30 the lowest

darke
19-01-2006, 08:31 PM
So where you hang around? I only go XianZi before. Buddy bring me there one. :)

buddy jio u again. u want to go?

gangjian
22-01-2006, 10:03 PM
This thread deading lah. :(

Heard from a friend who went to DC on Friday night. One singer got 30K for her birthday. Looks like business is not too bad after all.:D

evo3
23-01-2006, 02:13 AM
Ever since the last raid at DC their biz is picking up again bcos till now still not many competitors in the mkt lah.
Bro you never go DC and hang flower liao har. :D

gangjian
23-01-2006, 05:42 PM
Ever since the last raid at DC their biz is picking up again bcos till now still not many competitors in the mkt lah.
Bro you never go DC and hang flower liao har. :D

Well, did go there a couple of times and hanged some small flowers. But was disappointed and lost interest in the whole hanging-flower thing. Mediocre singers got tons of flowers for whatever reason, while real talent saw little reward.

Loss in Space
23-01-2006, 08:15 PM
Well, did go there a couple of times and hanged some small flowers. But was disappointed and lost interest in the whole hanging-flower thing. Mediocre singers got tons of flowers for whatever reason, while real talent saw little reward.


Bro,

Is it not the same everywhere in life? How often do we see real talent being rewarded sufficiently. Thought they already taught in school, 'its not what you know but who you know that matters' This statement goes a long way.... :)

gangjian
23-01-2006, 08:46 PM
Bro,

Is it not the same everywhere in life? How often do we see real talent being rewarded sufficiently. Thought they already taught in school, 'its not what you know but who you know that matters' This statement goes a long way.... :)

Yeah, I know, you're absolutely right.

I should add though, what is more disappointing is to see those few real talents struggle-for a while-against forces that bend them against their integrity, and yet, finally cave in to become just another ang pai, available to the highest bidder. This destruction of character is more saddening than the glorification of mediocracy.

Well, maybe this kind of drama is actually what made these joints interesting in the first place.:D

evo3
24-01-2006, 02:43 AM
Bro Gangjian, if that is the case than i sugguest not to hang any more flower there, save some money for other use will ne much better lah. like me :)

deleted_nil
24-01-2006, 03:11 AM
Actually there are a lot this kind of joints around... juz curious DC stand for what ...

evo3
24-01-2006, 09:32 AM
DC = Direct Current
DC = Dry Cell

:D :D

deleted_nil
24-01-2006, 01:32 PM
-_-

I juz want know what it stand for the place of the name ....

teraterm55
24-01-2006, 02:12 PM
-_-

I juz want know what it stand for the place of the name ....

DC = Dynasty Classic.

anyway.... since this thread never say anything that would attract AV i think can safely put names in... hahahah.. since its legal to sing and for us to hang flowers hahahaha.

Malaysian Datuk
24-01-2006, 03:07 PM
for the S$10 flower one there is
Hawaii bro this joint very budget.....many singers too....but some say feels like market.......I like coz I'm usually the youngest around:D


as for flower king... well there are a few around the most famous is hai ke, da yen chen.. etc. these people are known around the hang flower world because they can spend continuous 5-6K a day for 7 days a week,30 days a month they usually visit a different KTV everynite, and avoid those extremely high class place because they want to stay low profile. and they always use cash. plus every now and then they will set a record of 40-100K. I am still wondering where they get the money.bro you forgot to mention Nan ge....hai ge record kena broken already right? Dun know which one of them owns pawnshops one.......

teraterm55
24-01-2006, 03:47 PM
bro this joint very budget.....many singers too....but some say feels like market.......I like coz I'm usually the youngest around:D
bro you forgot to mention Nan ge....hai ge record kena broken already right? Dun know which one of them owns pawnshops one.......

whaaaa.. you like hawaii.. next time can go cheong there lor. but after the murder case i heard very little go there liau.

i think ya.. someone broke the record. i think its hang at DC.
anyway i official retire so info old :) hehehehhehe

must need active bro to reintroduce me liau. now newbie status

Loss in Space
24-01-2006, 04:41 PM
Yeah, I know, you're absolutely right.

I should add though, what is more disappointing is to see those few real talents struggle-for a while-against forces that bend them against their integrity, and yet, finally cave in to become just another ang pai, available to the highest bidder. This destruction of character is more saddening than the glorification of mediocracy.

Well, maybe this kind of drama is actually what made these joints interesting in the first place.:D

Bro,

As what have being mentioned, DC is one big dye tank (chinese saying), it will be difficult to see all their peers so successful and they have to struggle to make ends meet. Real life and fairy tales are always two different things. Guess (At least I hope so) that smaller places are not as pratical and therefore the gap between the two is less obvious.

Dont agree that the way to avoid it, is to stop hanging flowers or worse to avoid going to the place. If we have to do that, we can stay at home liao, unequality happens everywhere, in school, at work or even at home! Did I just say stay at home??!! See those big brothers in action and learn lor, maybe one day we can also throw those kind of money, then I think we will feel less unjust:D

GoGoGo
24-01-2006, 04:42 PM
bro this joint very budget.....many singers too....but some say feels like market.......I like coz I'm usually the youngest around:D


bro you forgot to mention Nan ge....hai ge record kena broken already right? Dun know which one of them owns pawnshops one.......

Bring me leh... then i become the youngest! kekeke... mi recently also a little hooked to hang flower joints liao... :D

newbadass
24-01-2006, 04:43 PM
Bring me leh... then i become the youngest! kekeke... mi recently also a little hooked to hang flower joints liao... :D

Why must hang flower? If you start with the intention of hanging flower, why start? Does it mean you can't move on if you dun hang flower? If that's the case, then it's time for some serious de-flowering ...

Ayoshi Nakamura
24-01-2006, 07:14 PM
Why must hang flower? If you start with the intention of hanging flower, why start? Does it mean you can't move on if you dun hang flower? If that's the case, then it's time for some serious de-flowering ...
Hang flower for some is more of a showy thing, to impress and hook the singers, to create competitive atmosphere. I heard the singers get 70% and the ktv gets 30%. Better give to the girl under private arrangements.

evo3
24-01-2006, 08:29 PM
Well said bro, is much better to give the singer in other way instead of hanging flower to her, where the boss will get 30% comm from the singer.

Loss in Space
25-01-2006, 08:44 AM
Well said bro, is much better to give the singer in other way instead of hanging flower to her, where the boss will get 30% comm from the singer.

Agree but the catch is that if the singer always cannot hit target, the boss will not want to extend her contract here. So got to do some balancing act lor..

newbadass
25-01-2006, 09:04 AM
Well said bro, is much better to give the singer in other way instead of hanging flower to her, where the boss will get 30% comm from the singer.

That's the rationale my buddies give for tipping mummies heavily instead of opening bottle. And I think the logic is flawed.

Sure, the mamasan doesn't get that much money from each bottle opened in her name. But management does keep tabs on just how much the mamasan contributes to company profits in terms of bottles, and that could be a decider in her performance appraisal. In contrast, just tipping her will net her more money, but would she trade that for job security?

Now apply that same logic to hanging flowers.... :)

cockanathanjoe
25-01-2006, 10:12 AM
That's the rationale my buddies give for tipping mummies heavily instead of opening bottle. And I think the logic is flawed.

Sure, the mamasan doesn't get that much money from each bottle opened in her name. But management does keep tabs on just how much the mamasan contributes to company profits in terms of bottles, and that could be a decider in her performance appraisal. In contrast, just tipping her will net her more money, but would she trade that for job security?

Now apply that same logic to hanging flowers.... :)

as one of the bros mentioned earlier, he wanted to tip the singer $100 but she tols him to hang flower instead... yes, from what i heard, they rather get flowers than tips cos the singers go by ranking based on the amount of flowers they get... have been there at dc a few times. personally find the 2 singers bao er n cherrie very pretty. very tempted to hang but didn't cos from what i see, i will never b able to fight with the big taokays who hung thousands of $$$ on them... so if me hang $100, at most they come smile smile shake hand sit sit a bit out of courtesy but other than that, they won't give any shit about me

evo3
25-01-2006, 11:23 AM
Yes bro hv to agreed with you, only big timer the singer will take note, small hanger they will just shake your hand, give you a smile and sit for awhile than exucse themselves and that goes your $100

gangjian
25-01-2006, 11:39 AM
have been there at dc a few times. personally find the 2 singers bao er n cherrie very pretty. very tempted to hang but didn't cos from what i see, i will never b able to fight with the big taokays who hung thousands of $$$ on them... so if me hang $100, at most they come smile smile shake hand sit sit a bit out of courtesy but other than that, they won't give any shit about me

Very true lah! Now Yaru is gone, Cherry is the angpai there, and she wouldn't really be impressed with the $100 small change you fork up. Better just sit there and enjoy the singing. :cool:

I don't know whether any of you bros find the "singer manageress" Huizi an annoyance. She came to your table more often than the singers, and when you are not hanging flowers, she would pester you with suggestions to hang this one hang that one. Then at the end, she also expects at least a $50 tip. :mad:

evo3
25-01-2006, 01:19 PM
Bro Gangjian, are you refering to the elderly lady. If that is the one than I know who you are talking about. she always have a habit to ask her customers to hang flower and yes and of the day she will need you to tip her well because she thinks she is doing a good job.
You rite is good to just sit back and watch those singers sing their favourite songs instead of hanging just peanuts compare to those big fishes there:D

deleted_nil
25-01-2006, 02:39 PM
Why some singers don dare to take money is once caught they get fined heavily... and frankly when company get 30% is not a lot coz don forget theie expense and etc... their liquor and beer is not as ex as those lap sap places... moreover i agree that they have a target to hit and usually certain amounht of flowers result in some rewards ... DC is more of a big joint compare to others ... I usually go to other small joints as it is better and not like so realistic there... 1 more thing is i disagree abt shake hand and leave theory maybe coz i go to smaller places as some are actually more to frens and i did have my fair share of fun and not coz i hang a lot... also see how u all talk and etc, they also beings... but frankly 7 out of 10 is see money but that don mean no gd 1 lah but rare lor ~~

GoGoGo
25-01-2006, 03:16 PM
Hang flower for some is more of a showy thing, to impress and hook the singers, to create competitive atmosphere.

Guess its all about competition and winning... once you start, quite hard to control also... esp. after you drink more.... kekeke... like gambling... if hang 1k already, and lose, then will feel like hanging more to win... rather than let the 1k burn... btw, mi normally only hang $50... :D

seekfun
25-01-2006, 03:55 PM
lets see if i remember correctly.

Yang Tze Ktv (china town)
Hoomiko KTV (jalan besar)
MOJO KTV (tanjung pagar, changing to philipino joint),
The one at Upper Serangoon Shopping Centre (upper serangoon area)
Kai Xian Men (triump Arch, belestier)
XIan Tze (cleopetra, middle road)
Snooker (middle road)
..many more.. cant remember.


for the S$10 flower one there is
Hawaii

As for why people hang flower. i think its something like FACE,
the more they hang the more face they think they get. the singer
will flock to his table and also the papasan or mamasan and also
get special treatment. I think on other threads i have also said
some other reasons why people hang flower .. amount them is
1. Face(already stated above)
2. Wash Money (for those with connection with the singer and company)
3. Claim Ent and share profit (for japs and korean who have fixed ent to spend, and they know the singer)
4. 2 much money dont know where to spend (those retired people and super rich lonely men)
5. Realy apreciate the singing and performance (there are a few)

as for flower king... well there are a few around the most famous is hai ke, da yen chen.. etc. these people are known around the hang flower world because they can spend continuous 5-6K a day for 7 days a week,30 days a month they usually visit a different KTV everynite, and avoid those extremely high class place because they want to stay low profile. and they always use cash. plus every now and then they will set a record of 40-100K. I am still wondering where they get the money.

Good bro, a very detailed and enlightening explaination. Just to add to the joints with $20 flowers :

Pebbles (Aliwah St, near to Jalan Sultan)
New Generation (Xin Yi Dai, Tanjong pagar)

And few more places, cant remember the names.

Anyway, my experience is NOT to hang hugh flowers (more than $100) for the singers unless u know her very well. If u just been to the place for first time and wanted to test waters, just hang $20 to the singers that caught your attention. Then slowly build up and momentum with her getting to know her better. Slowly increase the amount($30, $50 to $100) as time goes by. Rule of flower hanging game, be patient...

seekfun
25-01-2006, 04:01 PM
That's the rationale my buddies give for tipping mummies heavily instead of opening bottle. And I think the logic is flawed.

Sure, the mamasan doesn't get that much money from each bottle opened in her name. But management does keep tabs on just how much the mamasan contributes to company profits in terms of bottles, and that could be a decider in her performance appraisal. In contrast, just tipping her will net her more money, but would she trade that for job security?

Now apply that same logic to hanging flowers.... :)

Agree with the logic. However, why hang flower instead of giving direct tips to the singers got some psychological effect. Singers always try to differentiate themselves from hostesses and most of them want to be treated (or at least perceived to be treated) differently from the hostesses. Therefore, if you hang flowers, even if it is just $20, it shows you aprreciate their singing. If you ahng more, u help them meet their target, etc. Also, singers on stage will like to compete with each other as who got more flowers etc...

seekfun
25-01-2006, 04:09 PM
[QUOTE=Malaysian Datuk]bro this joint very budget.....many singers too....but some say feels like market.......I like coz I'm usually the youngest around:D


U may be the youngest around. But i heard the singers mostly older rite?? even got some can be our sisters or aunty leh...

seekfun
25-01-2006, 04:10 PM
Bring me leh... then i become the youngest! kekeke... mi recently also a little hooked to hang flower joints liao... :D

Bro, when u start to appreciate the hang flowers culture hah?? Anyway, where u normally go? I use to wonder around different joints alone. If you keen, next chio u, how??

GoGoGo
25-01-2006, 04:42 PM
Bro, when u start to appreciate the hang flowers culture hah?? Anyway, where u normally go? I use to wonder around different joints alone. If you keen, next chio u, how??

Well, just started... but gotta stop soon... broke liao... once start hanging... the hands keep automatic raising everyime... even the keyboard teacher also hang... now, feel like carrot! kekeke... :D

evo3
25-01-2006, 07:04 PM
Yes Bro Seekfun your kind of strategy of hanging flower is correct, For small hang flower joint we can go slow like what you had just said start from $20 and test water first, than slowly go to $30, $50 or $100. Is better to hang in a small joint rather than going to those big joint whereby there are too many heavy hanger there and small timer cant beat them at all.
Think the next time I also need to go to those smaller join to hange liao.
Bro any small joint that can hang flower to recommed to me, thks bro.

deleted_nil
25-01-2006, 08:03 PM
frankly usually u go small joints there are not much shows but singing and then those "pai pai chang" (* where all singers sing together)... for 20 dollars i know there are a lot places... snooker ktv at middle rd / xin ge cheng at serangoon (ulu place) / goodluck ktv at parklane 4 floor / so much more more ... but for 10 dollars only hawaii i think ... have to agree sometimes its quite addictive and worst is drink a lot = anyhow hang... but now ctrl and seldom go liao ... maybe we see each other b4 who knows.... hahaha ....

gangjian
27-01-2006, 04:11 PM
My first CNY in S'pore. Not knowing what to do.:confused:

Any bro know whether these hanging-flower joints will be open on Sat night (eve of CNY)? Will it be crowded or deserted?

hunter1234
27-01-2006, 04:15 PM
-_-

I juz want know what it stand for the place of the name ....


so long no come in this site...hahahaa i thot i even posted the URL of the place ?!!?! ::rolleyes:

hunter1234
27-01-2006, 04:19 PM
Very true lah! Now Yaru is gone, Cherry is the angpai there, and she wouldn't really be impressed with the $100 small change you fork up. Better just sit there and enjoy the singing.

I don't know whether any of you bros find the "singer manageress" Huizi an annoyance. She came to your table more often than the singers, and when you are not hanging flowers, she would pester you with suggestions to hang this one hang that one. Then at the end, she also expects at least a $50 tip.


huizi was once singer...married a sporean...just gave birth !
luckily she never come to my table !!! muahaha

btw...have a prosperous lunar new year horrrrr to all bros...me 2 weeks no go DC liao... :D

hunter1234
27-01-2006, 04:22 PM
My first CNY in S'pore. Not knowing what to do.:confused:

Any bro know whether these hanging-flower joints will be open on Sat night (eve of CNY)? Will it be crowded or deserted?

DC not open meh ? i was there last year i think...

they open 365 days a year !!! kekeke

tonight is ru meng's last night...

evo3
28-01-2006, 01:15 AM
Bro Hunter you report to DC every alternate day har:D

Sohni
28-01-2006, 01:47 AM
i dont think they will allow coyote dancer in singapore club ahhahaha.
not sure, so far stage performers are to only perform onstage, as stated
in the public entertainment licence.

even the mixture of chinese performers and performers from other countries are not permitted. hence if a joint applies for thai or philipino singers, they cant have PRC singers and vice-versa.

entertainment laws there are really tight plus you have the public entertainment licence (the police is taking care of this), MOM (they catch overstayer and illegal workers), AV (they catch anyone doing funny things in KTV), CNB they catch drug users and god know what other departments are out there.

Hahaha check out the Resort Club (Bangkok) coyote dancers pics (http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=1333299) and video (http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=1334367) clip. Superb!

Just too many entertainment laws in Singapore. :(

hunter1234
28-01-2006, 07:49 AM
Bro Hunter you report to DC every alternate day har:D

no lehhh few weeks didnt go liaooo a bit sian liaoo
my friends were there last night though :cool:

evo3
28-01-2006, 10:44 PM
no lehhh few weeks didnt go liaooo a bit sian liaoo
my friends were there last night though :cool:


Bro I also rest for almost 2 mths liao. never step in DC.
Wah lau you so fast sian DC liao, so must go to some new joint lah:D

hunter1234
28-01-2006, 11:28 PM
Bro I also rest for almost 2 mths liao. never step in DC.
Wah lau you so fast sian DC liao, so must go to some new joint lah:D

bro we frequent that place for almost 2 years liao lehhhhh

me waiting for feifei to be back lah then i go...

evo3
29-01-2006, 05:03 AM
bro we frequent that place for almost 2 years liao lehhhhh

me waiting for feifei to be back lah then i go...


Haha, Bro my 8 mths in DC is just like 2 years there bcos I use to go there 3 to 4 times a week for 8 rolling mths:D So is like 2 years lor:)

deleted_nil
30-01-2006, 03:40 AM
DC is consider quite a big joint i think in this market ... juz curious how much they charge for their beer and liquor... bros who go there usually hang how much... for me i usually go to smaller joints...

evo3
30-01-2006, 01:44 PM
Bro Deleted just for your info

1. For beer if you are sitting on those counter charges will be $38 per mug nett
2. For hard liquor (martell) sit on those counter or those table just in front of the singing stage will be $278 nett with free flow of fruits.
3. For beer if you are sitting inside a room than will be the charge of the beer plus room charges of $120.
4. For hard liquor (martell) sit inside the room will be $378 nett inclusive of free room and free flow of fruits

Bro correct me if I am wrong.

gangjian
05-02-2006, 10:41 PM
my buddies and i are on a mission to survey all the hanging-flower joints in S'pore (if that's possible at all)! :rolleyes:

went to two recently. here is the FR.

1/ New Generation on Maxwell Rd and Shenton Way.
Was told this was actually was one of the most prosperous. only has a large lounge, with no ktv rooms, so only sing, dance, talk and drink there. jug of beer $38, minimum flower $20 (although never saw anyone hang that, it's almost always $50). usually has 25 singers, but only 14 or so during the CNY. Singer quality cannot be compared with DC, but still a few gems. seldom see anybody hang anything bigger than $100. people act pretty reasonably there. so your $50 goes a longer way than at DC, where even $1000 flower seems no big deal. So we end up having much fun there.

2/ Beer Garden at collyer quay.
This one has the worst physical environment i've ever seen! Everything is cheap there. The "flowers" for the singers look like shit. and you sit on plastic chairs! but because it's outdoor, the air quality much better. so good for your health.
again, not the full roster of singers were present. most of them totally CMI! BUT, found a real gem, had great time with her, and will be working on her (to become good friends, that is).;) Beer jug $28 (or maybe $38?), minimum flower $30. didn't see much flower at all the whole night.

BTW, heard that there was this one PRC singer at LV, who was considered by many to be the No.1 prc singer in town. Anyone saw her performance?

break78
06-02-2006, 12:59 AM
Bro Deleted just for your info

1. For beer if you are sitting on those counter charges will be $38 per mug nett
2. For hard liquor (martell) sit on those counter or those table just in front of the singing stage will be $278 nett with free flow of fruits.
3. For beer if you are sitting inside a room than will be the charge of the beer plus room charges of $120.
4. For hard liquor (martell) sit inside the room will be $378 nett inclusive of free room and free flow of fruits

Bro correct me if I am wrong.

Bro, if those are the DC prices, then some smaller joints seem to be of the same price too. I've been to The Ching Bar at Allson hotel, no rooms, just the public area, all prices the same, accept martell, even more expensive. $417 i think. Then plus the fruits, and all the extras... I assume those extras are the same everywhere.... At the moment trying to aim a girl there... bored already then change place.. :)

evo3
06-02-2006, 01:21 AM
Bro gangjian thks for your info and going all out to find more hang flower joint.
Cheer bro

gangjian
06-02-2006, 09:33 PM
Bro gangjian thks for your info and going all out to find more hang flower joint.
Cheer bro

So Bro evo3, you not going to DC any more? Then how do we get insider info on that place? ;)

evo3
06-02-2006, 09:45 PM
So Bro evo3, you not going to DC any more? Then how do we get insider info on that place? ;)


Bro gangjian, no need to worry one lah, I have planted a few spy inside DC so can get info if I never go there. Most of the waiter, waitress, especially the 2 floor mgr knows me too well liao. Fiona the recpt and her sister also knows me and also downstair the car jockey chief Enguene also knows me well. :D

evo3
06-02-2006, 09:48 PM
Bro break78, that is always the case, those located inside hotel areas are always more expensive than those outside KTV. They will hvae alot of extras charges, unlike outside KTvs the bill is always $xxx nett (all inclusive).

So bro break78 where is ur regular joint lately. any ?

break78
06-02-2006, 10:15 PM
So bro break78 where is ur regular joint lately. any ?


Hee..:D I found this thread finally... As you can tell, I've been alternating between This Ching Bar, and The Century KTV(not the expensive version, but not too cheap also) recently. Wait till i get bored of this 2 place first then I'll change a venue, but will definitely look for a flower joint in future... So nice a place. wonder how come so many people don't like it... :D

break78
06-02-2006, 10:15 PM
So bro break78 where is ur regular joint lately. any ?


Hee..:D I found this thread finally... As you can tell, I've been alternating between This Ching Bar, and The Century KTV(not the expensive version, but not too cheap also) recently. Wait till i get bored of this 2 place first then I'll change a venue, but will definitely look for a flower joint in future... So nice a place. wonder how come so many people don't like it... :D

P.S.: no power to return your favour... you have to wait liao... Thanks..

gangjian
07-02-2006, 12:10 AM
Bro gangjian, no need to worry one lah, I have planted a few spy inside DC so can get info if I never go there. Most of the waiter, waitress, especially the 2 floor mgr knows me too well liao. Fiona the recpt and her sister also knows me and also downstair the car jockey chief Enguene also knows me well.

Wow, bro evo3, you really have that place in your pocket lah!:D After scouting other places, I still found DC my favorite. The singers there are just the best.

PMed you a more private question. ;) Thanks!

evo3
07-02-2006, 12:26 AM
Wow, bro evo3, you really have that place in your pocket lah!:D After scouting other places, I still found DC my favorite. The singers there are just the best.

PMed you a more private question. ;) Thanks!


Bro do you know the amt of $$$ and time I spend there. Countless lah, even the Boss ( fat man ) also tell me not to go to his KTV too often.

break78
07-02-2006, 03:38 PM
Bro evo3, where's your current hangout by the way?

evo3
07-02-2006, 09:58 PM
Bro evo3, where's your current hangout by the way?


Bro Break78, now my new location will be Las Vegas, I know the mummy there for very long liao, she use to work in Apollo and Orchard KTV, than go over to Las Vegas. Ask me to support her so just go there and look see lor.

break78
07-02-2006, 10:24 PM
Ooo.. Las Vegas... way out of my league man.... :D I think I will stick to cheaper ones... :p

gangjian
08-02-2006, 11:50 AM
Bro Break78, now my new location will be Las Vegas, I know the mummy there for very long liao, she use to work in Apollo and Orchard KTV, than go over to Las Vegas. Ask me to support her so just go there and look see lor.

What's the price for drinks and flower at LV? Do they have a lounge and bar counter like that in DC? I heard it's ridiculously expensive there. But do want to check it out though. Thanks!

dirty69warrior
08-02-2006, 02:18 PM
have been following this thread and would like to contribute just a little. actually, i used to a great fan of such joints. i prefer singers than ktv gals; which i do not quite understand why then. think about it now, it is a waste of money at such joints. drinking a glass of coke at kopi tiam is $1.20 whereas drinking a glass of coke at higher class places cost $12. but they taste exactly the same. of coz, some will say the comfort and amosphere is different. what i am trying to say is whether they are singers from china or ktv girls from china; there is no diff. anyway, these places are for ppl with plenty of money but nowhere to spend or ppl using "ah-gong's" money (entertainement allowance). for those with limited budget and have not ventured such places, i would say "don't bother lah.... stick to your KTVs; more economical, and fun". furthermore, such places can be 'dangerous' in some smaller joints! somehow, most pleasant looking singers tend to have someone behind them. i do hear ppl saying many of these smaller joints are thug-owned. i was ever mistakenly ambushed before for touching somebody's girls?!?! crazy, right??? anyway, the choice is still yours. it is just a little contribution. occasionally, i will still popby the 50s, Ching Bar or de Artists for a couple of drinks. these are safe and comfortable places for drinks and just to listen to songs. if you have money, the singers can be just as good, though! haha!

RedJacket
08-02-2006, 04:01 PM
for those with limited budget and have not ventured such places, i would say "don't bother lah.... stick to your KTVs; more economical, and fun". furthermore, such places can be 'dangerous' in some smaller joints!


Personally i think that those budget places are more adventurous. The MMs can be played and u only pay a fraction of what u going to give in high end leagues. We go to this kind of places to have fun. If we really want to sing k, might as well go k box or partyworld.

Cheers.

gangjian
08-02-2006, 11:58 PM
have been following this thread and would like to contribute just a little. actually, i used to a great fan of such joints. i prefer singers than ktv gals; which i do not quite understand why then. think about it now, it is a waste of money at such joints. drinking a glass of coke at kopi tiam is $1.20 whereas drinking a glass of coke at higher class places cost $12. but they taste exactly the same. of coz, some will say the comfort and amosphere is different. what i am trying to say is whether they are singers from china or ktv girls from china; there is no diff. anyway, these places are for ppl with plenty of money but nowhere to spend or ppl using "ah-gong's" money (entertainement allowance). for those with limited budget and have not ventured such places, i would say "don't bother lah.... stick to your KTVs; more economical, and fun". furthermore, such places can be 'dangerous' in some smaller joints! somehow, most pleasant looking singers tend to have someone behind them. i do hear ppl saying many of these smaller joints are thug-owned. i was ever mistakenly ambushed before for touching somebody's girls?!?! crazy, right??? anyway, the choice is still yours. it is just a little contribution. occasionally, i will still popby the 50s, Ching Bar or de Artists for a couple of drinks. these are safe and comfortable places for drinks and just to listen to songs. if you have money, the singers can be just as good, though! haha!

A philosophical discussion! That I like!:D

Here is my 2 cents:
1/ high-end joints definitely have better singers than the low-end ones. Occasionally you can find a gem or two at the low-end joints, but most of the time, those singers were even worse than girls at BS! So better just go to BS, and you can do more.

2/ At the high-end joints such as DC, yes, it's expensive, but you do get more with what you pay. There are just something special about these singers that makes at least myself and my buddies willing to pay more just to talk to them.:D I've been hanging flowers for almost 3 mths now, and so far have met 4 college graduates, 2 professional models (both over 175cm!), 4 professional dancers or singers. These girls were highly saught after in PRC and some of them very much regret coming to S'pore to work in these joints (the higher income notwithstanding), which "lowered" their status.

3/ Bros should know you're getting into. Well, if you just want to squeeze some boobs or rubba-rubba, these are the wrong candidates! But if you're into appreciating other "beauties" of the female gender, then these singers definitely give you more than the girls you rubba-rubba at BS or TH or XTD.

Conclusion: if bros have some money to spare, and do appreciate other qualities and talents in women, then talking to and getting to know singers at the high-end joints can be a rewarding and addictive activity!

deleted_nil
09-02-2006, 03:58 AM
Basically too many joints of these now ... 1 thing correct is some singers are sort of so call "Bao" ... for small joints i agree there are gems and some even are dangerous coz some joints are so called used to lanuder money i guess which i heard and not sure... some open for fun by rich ppl who too much to spend and unable to disclose the money... i agree that if u into some rubba action these joints cfm not for it ... there are also quite a number of small joints which is quite ok ... for me i into this for only abt 1 yr and frankly for my age is sort of not usual coz maybe i am in my 20s and shd not be coming to it ... I went around quite a number of places till now and spend quite some money ... not coz i am rich but maybe fresh to me... nowadays seldom go too much ...

dirty69warrior
09-02-2006, 02:53 PM
bro 'nil', if you like this sort of places, then dun quit. you have your advantage; your age! but be wise your money. you might realize that these singers are for the more elderly one, there are many singers out there are looking for young chaps, no joke! very often they talk to the senior ones about 'jing'(gold), whereas to the younger ones about 'xing'(heart)! the senior ones are customers whereas you are treated as friend. you might find that there is no need for you to 'throw' unnecessary money like them. these singers (like other young gals) also hope to be loved and feel good with a young man! like what bro gangjian said "occasionally, you will still find a gem or two in the low-end joints". not all good and pretty singers prefer places like DC or TAM. these are high pressured and political places! some prefer to sing freely at low-end joints! i may not have been in such places for very long but i have seen and experiences quite a bit. but toning down a little lately. good luck, and enjoy! but, be wise in the way you spend with your hard earned money!

deleted_nil
09-02-2006, 06:28 PM
thanx for the advice ... will take note of it ... true in what u say coz i once have a relationship with a singer and not really into money at start but later on her true colours emerge i guess or maybe i feel too pressurize ... there are a few singers whom i am quite gd frens with and don really spend much on them ... so what ya say is quite true but however must always be careful of things and cannot be too navie...

Loss in Space
09-02-2006, 07:39 PM
bro 'nil', if you like this sort of places, then dun quit. you have your advantage; your age! but be wise your money. you might realize that these singers are for the more elderly one, there are many singers out there are looking for young chaps, no joke! very often they talk to the senior ones about 'jing'(gold), whereas to the younger ones about 'xing'(heart)! the senior ones are customers whereas you are treated as friend. you might find that there is no need for you to 'throw' unnecessary money like them. these singers (like other young gals) also hope to be loved and feel good with a young man! like what bro gangjian said "occasionally, you will still find a gem or two in the low-end joints". not all good and pretty singers prefer places like DC or TAM. these are high pressured and political places! some prefer to sing freely at low-end joints! i may not have been in such places for very long but i have seen and experiences quite a bit. but toning down a little lately. good luck, and enjoy! but, be wise in the way you spend with your hard earned money!

Very true, bro. A nice piece of advise too. Just my 2 cents worth, 'xing' can also be a very dangerous game to play. Sometime you can go to the point of no return especially if you have a family.....

dirty69warrior
10-02-2006, 12:02 PM
Very true, bro. A nice piece of advise too. Just my 2 cents worth, 'xing' can also be a very dangerous game to play. Sometime you can go to the point of no return especially if you have a family.....

true, bro! i do have friends neglecting the family because of these singers. but not the singers' fault, though. i feel that my friends have lost control of themselves.

for bros who like such places to make friends, have good chats and company with them; and not just the thought of bonking, these are my recommendations. personally, i feel that you are really ok, nice girls. do note that chemistry has a role to play too.

Hoomiko (Mi Xue)
Tian An Men (Jia Xuan)
88 (Xing Xiu)
The 50s (Jia Qi)
de Artists (Xing Xing, could have left)
Purple Club (Shan Shan)
Ching Bar (Hai Di)

cheers!

Loss in Space
10-02-2006, 12:17 PM
true, bro! i do have friends neglecting the family because of these singers. but not the singers' fault, though. i feel that my friends have lost control of themselves.

for bros who like such places to make friends, have good chats and company with them; and not just the thought of bonking, these are my recommendations. personally, i feel that you are really ok, nice girls. do note that chemistry has a role to play too.

Hoomiko (Mi Xue)
Tian An Men (Jia Xuan)
88 (Xing Xiu)
The 50s (Jia Qi)
de Artists (Xing Xing, could have left)
Purple Club (Shan Shan)
Ching Bar (Hai Di)

cheers!

Thanks for your recommendation. Will try to visit these places once I can pull myself out from my current craze....... Actually I am also living dangerously, thats way I was speaking from 'experience'. The worst thing is that you know that it is dangerous but yet you do it with little regrets but with alot of remorse.

teraterm55
10-02-2006, 01:06 PM
Thanks for your recommendation. Will try to visit these places once I can pull myself out from my current craze....... Actually I am also living dangerously, thats way I was speaking from 'experience'. The worst thing is that you know that it is dangerous but yet you do it with little regrets but with alot of remorse.

whatever your reasons are just play between your limit.
dont go crazy and hang overboard.
like what one bro has said to me "Objective based"

if your objective is for listening to music then hang 30 enuf.
if you want to fight for face or play mind games. 500 also not enuf.

as for singer who can entertain.. try Hoomiko pingping, she is cute young and damn playfull. had a ball of a time the other day just chit chat and talking.
her cheerfull smile and cute laughter..

evo3
11-02-2006, 05:55 PM
Yes fully agreed with Bro, when we cheong Flower Joint we must know our limit and where to stop, else it will hurt our family. afterall those ladies out there are only for entertiament only, not our wives. Not unless those single guys than it should be alright for them, but also need to watch what they are doing dont get urself into hot soup like having heavy debt with the banker than it will be doom liao

2nd uncle
11-02-2006, 06:17 PM
Last time use to know a Flower jiont meimei at LEX.... This meimei has an old man supporter who donate alot money to her... Infront of that old man like honey and bee but behind that old man she tell us he is her biggest ROBERT aka carrothead... If kanna these meimei gong tao die liao also dunno how...:D

break78
11-02-2006, 06:28 PM
Yes fully agreed with Bro, when we cheong Flower Joint we must know our limit and where to stop, else it will hurt our family. afterall those ladies out there are only for entertiament only, not our wives. Not unless those single guys than it should be alright for them, but also need to watch what they are doing dont get urself into hot soup like having heavy debt with the banker than it will be doom liao

I'm single so i can still go out all the way!! :D Of cos I limit myself though, but to get into debt is crazy... throwing your life into it... absolutely unacceptable...

evo3
11-02-2006, 06:57 PM
Bro Break78 is nice to know that you really know where is ur limit and know where and when to stop this game. Once u hv G/F is best to stop all this bcos is not worth taking the risk if G/F find out than die liao:D

break78
11-02-2006, 07:01 PM
No mah.. still can tell them cos they probably dunno what is flower joint... as long as it is not KTV.... Still can smoke gf abit... :D

evo3
11-02-2006, 11:49 PM
bro break dont take risk, ok sometime hv to hide away from ur g/f, not unless she is a very open minded lady

Loss in Space
12-02-2006, 02:14 PM
Yes fully agreed with Bro, when we cheong Flower Joint we must know our limit and where to stop, else it will hurt our family. afterall those ladies out there are only for entertiament only, not our wives. Not unless those single guys than it should be alright for them, but also need to watch what they are doing dont get urself into hot soup like having heavy debt with the banker than it will be doom liao


Thank you for all the bros' advises. Still trying to restrain myself lah. The problem is always that you want to think that the one you try to sian is one in a million and damn different from the rest. Just cannot afford to let emotion runs in, after a while, entertainment also become no fun liao.

evo3
12-02-2006, 07:22 PM
Bro Loss in Space no worry, I was just like you before, but is very lucky that I wake up early and realised that this is a worng doing is because I had a family to take care of. If only I do not hv a family or still single than I would hv carry on hanging until dont know when liao. Is important that we must know what we want in life and where and what are we heading to. If we treasure our family than we need to either slow down all this or we just put to a stop mmediately, rather than get ourself in deep trouble when our wife ot g/f find it out. This is my personal point of view.
Important thing is when we goi to those hang flower joint, we must not be that emotional, else we will fall into those trap.

Loss in Space
13-02-2006, 08:38 AM
Bro Loss in Space no worry, I was just like you before, but is very lucky that I wake up early and realised that this is a worng doing is because I had a family to take care of. If only I do not hv a family or still single than I would hv carry on hanging until dont know when liao. Is important that we must know what we want in life and where and what are we heading to. If we treasure our family than we need to either slow down all this or we just put to a stop mmediately, rather than get ourself in deep trouble when our wife ot g/f find it out. This is my personal point of view.
Important thing is when we goi to those hang flower joint, we must not be that emotional, else we will fall into those trap.

Thanks. Hope to recover soon........

evo3
14-02-2006, 05:45 AM
Power is Money, if you have the money you will have the power. This is very natural in life. Hanging flower in those flower joint can be quite tedious at time, even in a small flower joint it can also kill a person in the long run, so we have to be very careful when going to all these flower joint.
So bros pls take care of yourself if you are those flower hanger

deleted_nil
14-02-2006, 05:57 AM
Still remember abt 1 yr+ ago i came into contact in this kind of joint and find it very fresh and always find chance to go ... eveytime go will spend at least 200+ and then after sometime get to know a singer better and then somehow become together bah ... starting find her very gd and as time goes by always talk abt money and etc and finally end it but still friends and sometimes still spend some when she nid me help (although somehow i feel is lies in some way her words not all true ) then i start running different places and etc and spend as usual... till this cny then i decide all shd stop ... now i juz go and listen and maybe hang a little and not like last time... for me i feel is gd at least i went past this stage and somehow will know i will not hook to it in future ... somehow seeing some bros posting remind me and teach me quite some things... anyway hope all goes well for everyone ... got chance then tell more details...

Loss in Space
14-02-2006, 01:36 PM
Still remember abt 1 yr+ ago i came into contact in this kind of joint and find it very fresh and always find chance to go ... eveytime go will spend at least 200+ and then after sometime get to know a singer better and then somehow become together bah ... starting find her very gd and as time goes by always talk abt money and etc and finally end it but still friends and sometimes still spend some when she nid me help (although somehow i feel is lies in some way her words not all true ) then i start running different places and etc and spend as usual... till this cny then i decide all shd stop ... now i juz go and listen and maybe hang a little and not like last time... for me i feel is gd at least i went past this stage and somehow will know i will not hook to it in future ... somehow seeing some bros posting remind me and teach me quite some things... anyway hope all goes well for everyone ... got chance then tell more details...

Very Funny, Cheong life is so predictable.... It is like a cycle, some people gets out others get in, the cycle just keep on going and going. Maybe that is why all these night spots never runs out of business.

Actually good to know that maybe after sometime I can also give good advise to others who just join this never ending cycle:D

evo3
15-02-2006, 02:01 AM
Bro Loos in space you are rite man, as we know now we hv TOTO twice a week and every week 2 will hv 2 1st prize winner so in one year we will hv at least 18 of them who are at least half millionaire so what they do is use the money and cheong if they are still single not unless those who are very careful with money lah.
Thats wh you said the cycle always go on, you are not wrong bro

deleted_nil
15-02-2006, 09:58 AM
yap ... always been like this i guess the cycle for the old to retire to Hawaii to hang 10 dollars flower and the new take over at other places... LoL ...

dirty69warrior
15-02-2006, 11:57 AM
somtimes, i feel very sad for our local boys who frequent these joints and got 'played' by these singers! i always feel that we should be smarter than these china chicks. i always feel that we should be the ones 'playing' them, but be clear-conscious in the way you do it. it may sound contradicting though but can be done. i always feel that we should be in control of our own finances. yet, so many guys just got into some sort of financial crisis unnecessarily. i used to work for a bank and i saw so many cases of over-the-limit chionging. it is sad and unnecessarily! so many da-zhong-lian-pi-cong-pang-zi guys; whatever the gals ask for, these guys will just somehow pleases them! when these singers (or their 'public girlfriends' mostly) tell them that they have not hit their monthly quota, these guys will somehow think of ways to 'contribute'! sigh! let's be wise and chiong wisely. let's not let these singers take us as carrot heads that are always ready for the chopping! this will ensure that that you chiong-journey will last much longer! take good care of your bank account....... cheers!

K9696
15-02-2006, 12:09 PM
somtimes, i feel very sad for our local boys who frequent these joints and got 'played' by these singers! i always feel that we should be smarter than these china chicks. ....... cheers!


I kind of agreed w your statement, unfortunately that these gals are more street smarter than us, we lose out, we give, we pay, at the end, "Ren Cai Liang KONG.."
Also they are rich people can spare those dollars and cents, so those gals are fortunate to have "Sugar Daddy" to cover their Expenses.
Since you are working in Bank, I know you see countless brudders there get brutals by all these gals, but what can we say.. their skin so smooth and white, so lovely.. unless our government issue more strict rules to control the gals to come here..
Again this is quite impossible, if they do, our night life is Gone.. Economy will be doom..:(
Cheers.. Take care

teraterm55
15-02-2006, 12:58 PM
I.. their skin so smooth and white, so lovely.. unless our government issue more strict rules to control the gals to come here..
Again this is quite impossible, if they do, our night life is Gone.. Economy will be doom..:(
Cheers.. Take care

well one tip i like to tell bros. if they like you they will scold you for hanging 2 much flowers. Or even return a portion of the money to you. If they dont really like you.. the more you hang the more they like you...r money.

so if you want to go around hanging flower for whatever reasons. dont over do it. do it within your limit. If you just want to fight for the gals attention. frankly there are lots of smooth skin.. white white gals around. one of them is bound to want some kind of relationship or fcuk buddy.

me and a few bros went through this before and can verify.. there are those good ones and there are those who like your money only. The good ones wont want you to hang to much flower because they are worried about you and not your money, they will be worried if you spend to much time with them it will affect your work and also if you spend 2 much on them you will go broke. The bad ones are like Vampire.. suck your time and money.

If the gals want to play you and you dont allow it .. there is nothing they can do. they can only play you like a doll if you allow them. think with big head before your small one. nowadays at Gl lor 16 there are lots of pretty young china gals going for S$60....

anyway.. there is a new hang flower joint being open at adelphi... went there to recce .. no singers yet so dont bother to go there and waste your time.
will update when singers reach that joint.

deleted_nil
18-02-2006, 01:36 PM
agree and know what you saying but got to admit a lot may know but unable to do it ... juz like when ur fren heartbroken u know and say those things but when happen to u, also a lost ... LoL... anyway hope all bros here don get con and can learn ... i am now also at that process and hope can achieve it...

hunter1234
19-02-2006, 10:51 AM
A philosophical discussion! That I like!

2/ At the high-end joints such as DC, yes, it's expensive, but you do get more with what you pay. There are just something special about these singers that makes at least myself and my buddies willing to pay more just to talk to them.I've been hanging flowers for almost 3 mths now, and so far have met 4 college graduates, 2 professional models (both over 175cm!), 4 professional dancers or singers. These girls were highly saught after in PRC and some of them very much regret coming to S'pore to work in these joints (the higher income notwithstanding), which "lowered" their status.



bro bro...u got their resume ahhhhhhh...me long time no go liao (abt 1 month) kekekeke...is feifei back ?
:D

evo3
19-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Bro I dont think your Fei Fei is back so fast lah, she just left not long ago mah. Think maybe another 3 mths time she will be back here to see you lah:D

deleted_nil
21-02-2006, 04:38 PM
Usually after 1 yr coming over they need to stay in their country for 6mths b4 they can come over again to work...

break78
21-02-2006, 11:55 PM
anyway.. there is a new hang flower joint being open at adelphi... went there to recce .. no singers yet so dont bother to go there and waste your time.
will update when singers reach that joint.

where is the exact location bro? I don't mind taking alook at the surroundings even if the singers are not in yet.... can get familiar with the place first....

GoGoGo
22-02-2006, 12:39 PM
where is the exact location bro? I don't mind taking alook at the surroundings even if the singers are not in yet.... can get familiar with the place first....

#B1-32... called palace castle... newly renovated... singers should be in next few days after renovation.... how having promotion for beer... tel: 63389618 ;)

teraterm55
22-02-2006, 02:35 PM
#B1-32... called palace castle... newly renovated... singers should be in next few days after renovation.... how having promotion for beer... tel: 63389618 ;)

do beware down there though, from the singer list that i saw. one of the singer is ex-woodbridge client and the other one is a known money vampire.
i think only one can make it.. and she is already taken by no other than bro......... ahem... i let the bro anounce pa... HAHAHAHAHAH

break78
23-02-2006, 12:00 AM
When you say adelphi, you mean the one opposite funan centre? Unless there is another adelphi which i do not know....

And muz really check out the singers there liao, its more of curiosity now that the singers seem to be so "interesting".. :D

teraterm55
23-02-2006, 11:22 AM
When you say adelphi, you mean the one opposite funan centre? Unless there is another adelphi which i do not know....

ya its the adelphi beside funan. this place is rather stuck in the corner of the basement. If you want to check the place out maybe we can get fellow flower hangers to go along. beer is cheap and since its a new place.. might be fun.

GoGoGo
23-02-2006, 11:53 AM
ya its the adelphi beside funan. this place is rather stuck in the corner of the basement. If you want to check the place out maybe we can get fellow flower hangers to go along. beer is cheap and since its a new place.. might be fun.

Still no singers yet for this week lah! :D

teraterm55
23-02-2006, 12:49 PM
Still no singers yet for this week lah! :D

so when they official go in to sing ??

deleted_nil
23-02-2006, 05:15 PM
meaning the building opposite funan right ?? anyway i also interested to go ... suprised that here got bro got singer gf (or is it "Bao" ) ... anyway juz don burned ! ^^ cheers to all

gangjian
02-03-2006, 09:21 PM
bro bro...u got their resume ahhhhhhh...me long time no go liao (abt 1 month) kekekeke...is feifei back ?
:D

Me also abt 1 month no go liao, otherwise my singers' dossier would continue to grow. :rolleyes: Waiting for some new things to happen lah. Lost interest in DC since LeLe's departure. When will she be back?

evo3
03-03-2006, 03:42 AM
Bro Gangjian so you also retired from hang flower join liao har. maybe can try other hang flower join lah

teraterm55
03-03-2006, 03:05 PM
Bro Gangjian so you also retired from hang flower join liao har. maybe can try other hang flower join lah

ehbro evo3.. you from curtin university ah ? used to lecture there man.. nice place

evo3
03-03-2006, 05:15 PM
Yes Bro Terateam55, I only do my distance learning but was there for about 2 to 3 weeks. It was about 15 years back liao. So you are the lecturer there, so now are you still a lecturer in SG

teraterm55
03-03-2006, 06:09 PM
Yes Bro Terateam55, I only do my distance learning but was there for about 2 to 3 weeks. It was about 15 years back liao. So you are the lecturer there, so now are you still a lecturer in SG

the only lecturing i am doing now is Sex Education to WL's hahahahhaa

ANOA1
03-03-2006, 06:54 PM
Haha. Interesting to think of lecturers cheong ktv.:D

Snowy23
03-03-2006, 06:58 PM
ehbro evo3.. you from curtin university ah ? used to lecture there man.. nice place
I was student there 10 yrs ago. I may know who you are :p

evo3
03-03-2006, 08:19 PM
Bro Terateam I believe you had already got your Master in Sexology liao and now you are into your Doctorate in Sexology rite.:D

GoGoGo
03-03-2006, 08:57 PM
Bro Terateam I believe you had already got your Master in Sexology liao and now you are into your Doctorate in Sexology rite.:D

Got his PhD long ago.... now A.Prof.... :D

AHGONG
03-03-2006, 11:37 PM
Got his PhD long ago.... now A.Prof.... :D

u oso asst prof liao lah.....esp on the flower hanging category...hehehe:p

evo3
04-03-2006, 03:01 AM
I think majority of the bros who goes to those hang flower join already obtained their Master in Hang Flower liao:D now thay are into their Doctorate liao. :p

teraterm55
04-03-2006, 02:21 PM
Haha. Interesting to think of lecturers cheong ktv.:D

hehehhe... lecturers also human mah... it just gets abit strange when you see your students there hahaha.

teraterm55
04-03-2006, 02:23 PM
I think majority of the bros who goes to those hang flower join already obtained their Master in Hang Flower liao:D now thay are into their Doctorate liao. :p

i think so also... some even paid few thousand of skool fees a week ahahahhaha.

evo3
04-03-2006, 02:55 PM
Yes Bro Terateam this is how they will learn how to go about hanging flower. Is not just so easy to hang flower at those joint, must know the style of hanging lah:D

Loss in Space
06-03-2006, 11:18 AM
Yes Bro Terateam this is how they will learn how to go about hanging flower. Is not just so easy to hang flower at those joint, must know the style of hanging lah:D

Very true! The art of hanging is the tricky part. Cant agree that everyone in the hang flower joint has already gotten a master because newbie or crazy people like me cant even get PSLE pass yet, let alone Master.

The art is important lor, to hang flowers is just a science (all you need is chemical S11) but to learn how to hang and not get hanged is really an art.:rolleyes:

evo3
06-03-2006, 08:19 PM
Bro Loss in space, yes fully agreed with you. We must know when to hang, who to hang, and most important thing is you must more or less know the singer character and her style. If you happen to hang on one lady who knows how to pretend in front of you that she is not the type of gal that goes all out foe money, but turn around she behave differently. Than is going to be very dissapponting. Because we will waste our monsy and time on her. therefore, we need to paly a little bit of cool and just sit back and watch carefully before we aim at our target, dont just anyhow hang. If like that eventually we will be in deep shit with all the bank debt or O/D from banks. This is not healthy at all. We must also knows our own limited of hanging dont just simply go all out to challenge some one out there without even knowing his back ground, so dont be a hero in those hang flower joint. if the singer really like you, than she would not mind how much you hang on her.
This is my personal point of view, thks bro.

gangjian
06-03-2006, 08:38 PM
Recently heard from a singer this story, don't know how true it is, submit for bros' comments:

This singer has a big supporter, who went often to hang big flowers on her for quite some time. but it later transpired that this big spender didn't really want to foot the bill, and because he had been a long-time customer of the joint and had indeed spent a lot, the boss didn't want to pressure him to cough up the flower-money he had already committed. In the end, it's the singer who ended up empty-handed. Not only the big-flower money was just false promise, she also paid an opportunity cost, as other customer thought she had been "bao"-ed by the guy, and didn't bother to hang her anything.

Quite a sad story, if true. Anyone heard this kind of thing before?

teraterm55
06-03-2006, 08:53 PM
Recently heard from a singer this story, don't know how true it is, submit for bros' comments:...singer has a big supporter...ended up empty-handed. ...?

this kind of story is true. it happens very often. Some is maybe because the supporter is playing the singer, sometimes its because the singer promise something but never fulfill so the supporter dont pay for the flower. must listen to both sides of the story.

last time saw one case. the singer ask supporter to hang flower, the supporter say what will I get in return, the singer promise to spend the nite with the supporter. so he hang 1K... later singer say not enuf. so he hang 10K. and then after that the singer keep saying not enuf. when the supporter found out she sleeps with other men for FOC, he got damn angry and never pay for the flower.

another one is the opposite, supporter hang, singer spent the nite with the supporter and then the supporter never pay. this kind of stories all around the place...

only thing to blame is the establishment. should not have let the customer owe the bill. some establishment even worse. if supporter never pay, the mummy or the singer still have to pay the company.

teraterm55
06-03-2006, 08:56 PM
deep shit with all the bank debt or O/D from banks.... if the singer really like you, than she would not mind how much you hang on her.
This is my personal point of view, thks bro.

TRUE to that.. i know a bro who only hang a couple of hundreds and the singer was sticking to the bro like bee to honey. and when the bro say he no money the singer offer to pay the bro back the money... hahahah

SUCH A LUCKY BRO.... if only things like this happen to me.. hahahahha.
this kind of rule applies to the gals working the rooms also. if they like you. they wont mind paying your bill so that you can goto their work place everyday.

break78
06-03-2006, 11:47 PM
I think i do agree too... my fren managed to get one girl, then told him not to visit her at her workplace, so no need to spend extra money to see her, instead she meet him outside very often. Then once he brought her out for a sight-seeing around singapore. When the day ends, sh stuff a sack of cash into his pocket as he had spent quite some amount of money for that day.... good hor? envy man.... how come we cannot get his kind of luck... not handsome maybe.... :D the girls don't like...

Loss in Space
07-03-2006, 04:32 PM
TRUE to that.. i know a bro who only hang a couple of hundreds and the singer was sticking to the bro like bee to honey. and when the bro say he no money the singer offer to pay the bro back the money... hahahah

SUCH A LUCKY BRO.... if only things like this happen to me.. hahahahha.
this kind of rule applies to the gals working the rooms also. if they like you. they wont mind paying your bill so that you can goto their work place everyday.


Dear all the Master and above Bros,

How else can we tell whether the singer really likes you or not? The singer I fancy does not seems to tell me that. Does it mean that I am a robert or are there any other ways to differentiate liking and being taken for a ride? Feel very happy with her until I see so many comments on how some of these singers treat their special friends, quite loss now!

seekfun
07-03-2006, 07:07 PM
Dear all the Master and above Bros,

How else can we tell whether the singer really likes you or not? The singer I fancy does not seems to tell me that. Does it mean that I am a robert or are there any other ways to differentiate liking and being taken for a ride? Feel very happy with her until I see so many comments on how some of these singers treat their special friends, quite loss now!

To know whether a singer likes you or not...quite tough to answer leh...just like asking whether a gal likes u or not...guess it depends on feeling lor...
One way to gage is that u limit your hanging amount to a certain amount, say $30 to $50 everytime you go. Once in a while you dun hang. U tell the singer that the particular nite you dun have enough budget. if she still willingly come to you knowing u will not hang, then it may be she has some feeling for you..just my hunch...prof tera, any further advise??

Loss in Space
07-03-2006, 08:16 PM
To know whether a singer likes you or not...quite tough to answer leh...just like asking whether a gal likes u or not...guess it depends on feeling lor...
One way to gage is that u limit your hanging amount to a certain amount, say $30 to $50 everytime you go. Once in a while you dun hang. U tell the singer that the particular nite you dun have enough budget. if she still willingly come to you knowing u will not hang, then it may be she has some feeling for you..just my hunch...prof tera, any further advise??

Bro,

Thanks for your advise but don't work for me now. I go to a small place and the people knows me so well that even no drinks for them, the singers also come and chat with me! On a not so crowded night, almost all the singers would pop by and say hello even though they know that I only hang flowers for one person.

That is why I am so confused.........

break78
07-03-2006, 11:13 PM
Bro,

Thanks for your advise but don't work for me now. I go to a small place and the people knows me so well that even no drinks for them, the singers also come and chat with me! On a not so crowded night, almost all the singers would pop by and say hello even though they know that I only hang flowers for one person.

That is why I am so confused.........

Maybe cos you are handsome n desirable... So all want to get close to you... :D

teraterm55
08-03-2006, 03:58 AM
To know whether a singer likes you or not...quite tough to answer leh...just like asking whether a gal likes u or not...guess it depends on feeling lor...
One way to gage is that u limit your hanging amount to a certain amount, say $30 to $50 everytime you go. Once in a while you dun hang. U tell the singer that the particular nite you dun have enough budget. if she still willingly come to you knowing u will not hang, then it may be she has some feeling for you..just my hunch...prof tera, any further advise??

wha bro so long never see you suddenly you pop up ... hahahah... where have you been man. I very busy recently so never go out.

anyway singer sometimes they will treat you as friend. so if you hang or dont hang they will still come keep you company. It also depends if they have alot of tables to sit that nite also. so it varies. but one thing i know is.

even if they are super busy they will come and tell you sorry they have to earn money and maybe buy you a jug of beer. But being friends and lovers are 2 different things. I know alot of singer that treat me and another bro as friends. so when they dont have customer they will call us to go down and visit them.. and sometimes they pay for the beer.

as for liking or not... well i said it before, if they really like you they wont let you spend alot of money on them (this is the fact) even if they super poor they also wont ask money from you, this is china girl style. Unless they really desperate they will still not ask money from you, but ask you for advise and hint hint they need help. and even if you offer to pay them big time they wont accept. got scolded a few times because i transfer money into their account, they come back and scold me "Who do you think i am?" i had 3 encounters with 5 different china gals, 3 singers and 2 WL from different parts of china, so i can teorize that this is true. Then there are 3 others that said "I treat it as a loan and i will pay you back later when i can" .. but most of the gals i know earn heaps of money

teraterm55
08-03-2006, 04:05 AM
Bro,

Thanks for your advise but don't work for me now. I go to a small place and the people knows me so well that even no drinks for them, the singers also come and chat with me! On a not so crowded night, almost all the singers would pop by and say hello even though they know that I only hang flowers for one person.

That is why I am so confused.........


maybe they want to catch you mah. one hint is when they start telling you things about the singer you only hang flower for. Like she is this and that. Now adays very competitive. i hear singer complaining that other singer is telling her customer lies to make the customer mad with her.

But thinking on the bright side. they might just treat you as friends.
some places i goto they know me as the S$20 dollor king because MAX one nite i will only hang 20 bucks to one singer.. usually the singer mummy hahaha. but they still come sit down and chit chat because they treat me as a friend mah. so this might be the case for you also. Just take it that they are treating you as friend. dont be paisey about it.

as one singer said to me when i ask her "eh i never hang flower for you before how come you always come to my table" and her answer was "because i like to play your gameboy mah" (no pun intended its a real nintendo gameboy).

evo3
08-03-2006, 05:12 AM
Bro Loss in Space, you know why you cant use this tactics that bro seekfun told you. Is all because you already too famous in those small hang flower joint liao

Loss in Space
08-03-2006, 09:12 AM
Maybe cos you are handsome n desirable... So all want to get close to you... :D


Bro,

If the two description are applicable for me then I would have the luck of those few examples quoted by the rest of the bros here liao.:o

Loss in Space
08-03-2006, 09:15 AM
[QUOTE=teraterm55]But thinking on the bright side. they might just treat you as friends.
some places i goto they know me as the S$20 dollor king because MAX one nite i will only hang 20 bucks to one singer.. usually the singer mummy hahaha. but they still come sit down and chit chat because they treat me as a friend mah. so this might be the case for you also. Just take it that they are treating you as friend. dont be paisey about it.

Very true, I think they treat me as a friend lor. Actually quite nice to have them talking to me and among themselves.:)

Loss in Space
08-03-2006, 09:18 AM
Bro Loss in Space, you know why you cant use this tactics that bro seekfun told you. Is all because you already too famous in those small hang flower joint liao


I know that, thats why it is so difficult to tell the difference between real and fake. You have strike my key concern and circumstance.

GoGoGo
08-03-2006, 01:24 PM
I know that, thats why it is so difficult to tell the difference between real and fake. You have strike my key concern and circumstance.

Me always no have this problem... all girls dun like me... so ended up with one plan... i always ask them when they call me... "You want flower? Or me?"... so end up if they want flower, then i dun go down... cus they dun wan me... so they also won't get my flowers cus mi not there. If they want me, they I go down dun hang flowers... Muahahahaha... Bo bian... mi cheapskate and no handsome lah... :D

teraterm55
08-03-2006, 01:36 PM
Me always no have this problem... all girls dun like me... so ended up with one plan... i always ask them when they call me... "You want flower? Or me?"... so end up if they want flower, then i dun go down... cus they dun wan me... so they also won't get my flowers cus mi not there. If they want me, they I go down dun hang flowers... Muahahahaha... Bo bian... mi cheapskate and no handsome lah... :D

HAHAHHA.. YOU JOKER.... then who are those gals that keep bugging you and disturbing you non stop even when you tell them to buzz off.

sommore call me to ask how come you ignoring them... hahahahah

teraterm55
08-03-2006, 01:41 PM
I know that, thats why it is so difficult to tell the difference between real and fake. You have strike my key concern and circumstance.

real or fake what does it matter. as long as what you think makes you happy.

If losing a bit of money on them makes you happy, as in happy its just a small amount of pocket change, and they happy you hang for them, and you happy because they make you happy then can lor.

or if you are happy to think that they treat you as frends and not after your money then continue to think so lor.

we go out to be happy mah. why be bothered with all these things and be sad.

just be happy bro. or else you might as well stay home and watch TV. :)

GoGoGo
08-03-2006, 02:27 PM
HAHAHHA.. YOU JOKER.... then who are those gals that keep bugging you and disturbing you non stop even when you tell them to buzz off.

sommore call me to ask how come you ignoring them... hahahahah

Got meh? How come i dunno? If they ask somemore then tell them to hang flowers for mi leh... :D

teraterm55
08-03-2006, 04:28 PM
Got meh? How come i dunno? If they ask somemore then tell them to hang flowers for mi leh... :D

U say one har.. i will give them a call now and tell them that.

dirty69warrior
08-03-2006, 04:49 PM
i have been following this thread but kinda disappointed that there have been many advices but no recommendations of singers, although i understand that bros will not be too willing to share their good finds. i have been thinking of once again exploring HKP and Sakura. just wondering if any bros have any recommendations of singers there? what about xiao yu from Sakura? is she still there, good investment??? cheers!

GoGoGo
08-03-2006, 05:32 PM
i have been following this thread but kinda disappointed that there have been many advices but no recommendations of singers, although i understand that bros will not be too willing to share their good finds. i have been thinking of once again exploring HKP and Sakura. just wondering if any bros have any recommendations of singers there? what about xiao yu from Sakura? is she still there, good investment??? cheers!

No really have any recommendations but sakura closed liao... yesterday last day... ;)

dirty69warrior
08-03-2006, 05:56 PM
No really have any recommendations but sakura closed liao... yesterday last day... ;)

oh, really?! then where have all the singers gone; especially xiao yu?!?!

seekfun
08-03-2006, 06:31 PM
No really have any recommendations but sakura closed liao... yesterday last day... ;)

When one joint closed down. Singers will most likely go to other joints to sing. There r not that many such joints nowadays..

hunter1234
08-03-2006, 08:07 PM
wah this thread still alive ahhhh...

which hanging flowers joints popular now ? :cool:

gangjian
08-03-2006, 10:24 PM
i have been following this thread but kinda disappointed that there have been many advices but no recommendations of singers, although i understand that bros will not be too willing to share their good finds. i have been thinking of once again exploring HKP and Sakura. just wondering if any bros have any recommendations of singers there? what about xiao yu from Sakura? is she still there, good investment??? cheers!

Hi, bro:

I also like to hear more discussion on singers. But y'know, that's the tricky part. After sharing info abt good singers with other bros, we may end up competing with each other. :rolleyes:

Or maybe we can start with sharing info on singers who are not good--those out there purely to find carrot heads to chop.;) But that may offend people, so it's tricky too.

teraterm55
09-03-2006, 01:38 AM
Or maybe we can start with sharing info on singers who are not good--those out there purely to find carrot heads to chop.;) But that may offend people, so it's tricky too.

i agree ah.. if we write how well our singer treat us, we will just be competing against each other. so let me start the ball rolling by telling bros who are the horrible singers i have seen ... either they chop my friend before or i saw them chop people before.

1. FeiFei currently in YangTze.
this gal always wear very sexy and dont wear bra. but i know she has some kind of relationship with the bartender. almost every customer also kena chop by her. she will first act sad and then ask customer dont hang flower because she cant wait for salary, almost going to die so pass money to her as tips instead. Then she tell each customer this, so everyone really think she no flower but then she keep the money as tips. So dont get trick by this. Also for bros who have singer ger frends in YangTze dont trust this singer. SHe always lie about how horrible other singers are to the singers customer so they will support her. so remember she will ALWAYS act PITYFULL and trick you into thinking so. But if you get into it YOU DIE. Plus she is known as super slut, as explained by my friend "bangla also gam". You have been warned.

so bros, any other singers to warn us about... i seen so many friend kena chop like carrot cake i scared already.

break78
09-03-2006, 01:50 AM
1. FeiFei currently in YangTze.


This FeiFei sounds familiar..... she has always been at YangTze? Or was she at other place before?

evo3
09-03-2006, 04:22 AM
Bro is this Fei Fei formerly from DC one:confused:

GoGoGo
09-03-2006, 12:33 PM
1. FeiFei currently in YangTze.
this gal always wear very sexy and dont wear bra. but i know she has some kind of relationship with the bartender. almost every customer also kena chop by her. she will first act sad and then ask customer dont hang flower because she cant wait for salary, almost going to die so pass money to her as tips instead. Then she tell each customer this, so everyone really think she no flower but then she keep the money as tips. So dont get trick by this. Also for bros who have singer ger frends in YangTze dont trust this singer. SHe always lie about how horrible other singers are to the singers customer so they will support her. so remember she will ALWAYS act PITYFULL and trick you into thinking so. But if you get into it YOU DIE. Plus she is known as super slut, as explained by my friend "bangla also gam". You have been warned.

Just to add... other one is Jin Na from New Generation... they buddy, buddy one... ;)

gangjian
09-03-2006, 02:13 PM
Just to add... other one is Jin Na from New Generation... they buddy, buddy one... ;)

Jin Na at New Generation. Is she the singer from chong qing? I remember that one. Looks really slutty (or, should I say flirtatious). So you mean she's a buddy with this FeiFei at Yangtze? Are they equally bad?

Actually, last time went to New Generation (around CNY), there was also a FeiFei there. She's from shang hai. Sings well, but sometimes acted rudely. Dunno if it's the same person.

GoGoGo
09-03-2006, 02:42 PM
Jin Na at New Generation. Is she the singer from chong qing? I remember that one. Looks really slutty (or, should I say flirtatious). So you mean she's a buddy with this FeiFei at Yangtze? Are they equally bad?

they super buddy... so should be sama, sama lo.... yala... from CQ... looks really slutty... like some Asian pron star in US type... see also buay tahan ah! :D

dirty69warrior
09-03-2006, 03:40 PM
if ChangJiang = YangTze, then i would say that Alice is also a big No-No too! No harm to avoid.

teraterm55
09-03-2006, 04:43 PM
Bro is this Fei Fei formerly from DC one:confused:

i dont know leh... my friend is the one that got bitten by her.... so when we were there.. he just pointed.. see that FeiFei.. "she worse than GL WL". we usually sit inside the room one. and my friend whould go out to listen when singers sing.

And i can assure you bros its not a case of he did not manage to get her thats why he so sore. he got a to bed her a few times. only to know later of the lies, thats when he became disgusted with her and quickly went for clinic checkup.

anyway true or not up to you bros to evaluate. its just a warning lor.

teraterm55
09-03-2006, 04:53 PM
Jin Na at New Generation. Is she the singer from chong qing? I remember that one. Looks really slutty (or, should I say flirtatious). So you mean she's a buddy with this FeiFei at Yangtze? Are they equally bad?

Actually, last time went to New Generation (around CNY), there was also a FeiFei there. She's from shang hai. Sings well, but sometimes acted rudely. Dunno if it's the same person.

this reminds me of another singer called Wendy form shanghai, she is singing in Yangtze now. damn rude, and she reminds me of some gorilla lady. she is now a singapore PR but she told my friend she is on singer pass. when another gal came to talk to my friend which he had known for ages, Wendy scolded the other singer and shove her out of the room. all us of was shocked.

I think next time have to post photo of these gals to avoid or becarefull with, because i notice they change name often.

teraterm55
09-03-2006, 04:55 PM
if ChangJiang = YangTze, then i would say that Alice is also a big No-No too! No harm to avoid.

whaaa it seem YangTze = ChangJiang has alot of bad reputation singers. hahahahha... lucky i dont have any singer target there.

somehow the management there damn funny one. sometimes when i see beautifull singer, somehow 1 or 2 months later the singer will get chased out and posted to other place. Strange.

omega3
09-03-2006, 05:01 PM
Hi all just need to contribute to this thread, I like some of you have just gotten involved at this place.

however what has happaned to me is that i am can not seem to pull away from one of the girls from this joint and am feeling really stress even at home I tend to sms her.:confused: this is not the norm for me

like as if i was back at school courting a girl.:o how do you control this situation spent more than 2k already

dirty69warrior
09-03-2006, 05:06 PM
whaaa it seem YangTze = ChangJiang has alot of bad reputation singers. hahahahha... lucky i dont have any singer target there.

somehow the management there damn funny one. sometimes when i see beautifull singer, somehow 1 or 2 months later the singer will get chased out and posted to other place. Strange.

i guess management is not too interested if the singers are pretty. i guess it the money-making ones who lasts!
btw, if any bro has any idea if xiao qin (if the name remains the same since i last know her) is still there?
since the reputation of this place is not too positive, what about HKP?!?! any advice, bros???

dirty69warrior
09-03-2006, 05:28 PM
Hi all just need to contribute to this thread, I like some of you have just gotten involved at this place.

however what has happaned to me is that i am can not seem to pull away from one of the girls from this joint and am feeling really stress even at home I tend to sms her.:confused: this is not the norm for me

like as if i was back at school courting a girl.:o how do you control this situation spent more than 2k already

perhaps you like to share with the bros here who is the singer?!?! heeheehee! they might be able to advise you better, if they know who you are splashing your money on. sometimes it is worth (in the long run) spending that sort of money, sometimes, it is just suay; plain carrot head chopping by the singers. btw, how do you spend your 2k; 80% of it on the singer? over a period of how long? you should have some idea how she feel for you by now. like what some bros here said, if she feel for you, she will not want you to spend unnecessarily. if she just want you to spend and spend and spend, i guess it is time for you to move on! unless she is so stunning or good that you can't let go; which i guess unlikely lah. no offence, pls.
lately, i spotted a stunning singer (X-Q, if i am not wrong) at de artists. sweet face, deep dimple, good shape and great breasts (if seems). but was told by a friend that she is a heavy duty singer; avoid!
move around and explore, bro!

omega3
09-03-2006, 07:29 PM
Won't mention name but place oasis place

2K over 2 weeks + some gifts.and dinner.

I think I might be sucker into this but to me she seems geniue enough.:confused:

evo3
09-03-2006, 11:12 PM
Bro Omega is the KTV called "大都会" I been to this ktv before lah

teraterm55
10-03-2006, 10:47 AM
Hi all just need to contribute to this thread, I like some of you have just gotten involved at this place.

however what has happaned to me is that i am can not seem to pull away from one of the girls from this joint and am feeling really stress even at home I tend to sms her.:confused: this is not the norm for me

like as if i was back at school courting a girl.:o how do you control this situation spent more than 2k already

well would ask you why you so interested in her anyway. and what is your motif (no need to answer here)

If you think that the 2K you spent has brought you happiness then go ahead. but if that 2K you spent will bring you sadness or worries in the end. then please post your story here so that maybe the bros can advise. And like what some bros has asked. who is she and where is she singing. we might have some info that might discourage you from further spalshing money.

teraterm55
10-03-2006, 10:50 AM
i guess management is not too interested if the singers are pretty. i guess it the money-making ones who lasts!
btw, if any bro has any idea if xiao qin (if the name remains the same since i last know her) is still there?
since the reputation of this place is not too positive, what about HKP?!?! any advice, bros???

HKP quite happening leh. last nite was there. alot of people... raba raba.. singer not much flower. not much info on this place yet... as my friends just recently went to attack this place hehehe

teraterm55
10-03-2006, 10:53 AM
Oh ya also forgot to mention. "Xin Yi Dai" the one at shenton way?? the old ntuc club, where Party World KTV is. have a new singer. doll face, white white... and to me quite cute. when she play game with you and she lose or win.. her facial expression damn nice to watch. gives you a nice feeling. BUT WARNING.. dont make her angry... her angry face will make you laugh. One of my friend got her so angry when she show that face we cant stop ourselves from laughing.
err as for her name.... cant remember she sat wif my friend and i never bother to remember.

dirty69warrior
10-03-2006, 11:29 AM
"If you think that the 2K you spent has brought you happiness then go ahead. but if that 2K you spent will bring you sadness or worries in the end. then please post your story here so that maybe the bros can advise."

this is a good one.... i agree! as long as you are happy and sensible with your money, then it is not the amount that you spend, i would think so.

btw, explored Hoomiko last night, and i think (personal opinion) that singers are lousy (in terms of look). apart from MiXue (formerly from HKP), the other singers just cannot make it. unless you have the mentality of "处女难找,有洞就好", i think can give this place a miss la! will be exploring HKP next!

gangjian
10-03-2006, 11:35 AM
Won't mention name but place oasis place

2K over 2 weeks + some gifts.and dinner.

I think I might be sucker into this but to me she seems geniue enough.:confused:

Oasis? Is that the Hai Shang Huang Gong? That place is like a ghost town most of the time. Last time, we only hanged only $50 and singers talked to us for the entire night (no other customer lah!). So I would think 2k over 2 wks should be very significant there. I know a couple of good singers there (maybe just haven't seen their dark side yet;) ).

gangjian
10-03-2006, 11:38 AM
HKP quite happening leh. last nite was there. alot of people... raba raba.. singer not much flower. not much info on this place yet... as my friends just recently went to attack this place hehehe

Hi, bro. Didn't you say you're "retired for good"? Still quite active mah! ;) Good for us loh.

gangjian
10-03-2006, 11:44 AM
Oh ya also forgot to mention. "Xin Yi Dai" the one at shenton way?? the old ntuc club, where Party World KTV is. have a new singer. doll face, white white... and to me quite cute. when she play game with you and she lose or win.. her facial expression damn nice to watch. gives you a nice feeling. BUT WARNING.. dont make her angry... her angry face will make you laugh. One of my friend got her so angry when she show that face we cant stop ourselves from laughing.
err as for her name.... cant remember she sat wif my friend and i never bother to remember.

Xin Yi Dai has a pair of sisters there. The younger sister (forgot the name) is a real nice girl. Doesn't sing very well, but found her honest and straightfoward. A college graduate somemore. Can speak Englishy.

omega3
10-03-2006, 01:40 PM
[QUOTE=gangjian]Oasis? Is that the Hai Shang Huang Gong, yes.

By the way some updates for all managed to talk and made friend with her
I think we seemed to have headed off ;)
I now think that she might have an interest in me as well.
Anyway to the earlier tread, on stopping all other activites for this just one is so true.

I must confess that it is really not easy courting in chinese.
by the way while I was there these past 2 weeks.

I have seen others put 2k just one night.on the singer.not sure is this direct way better than beating around the bush.

To be honest I have not been to other joints before.but I now really enjoy going to this place.

whats more its has a pool table as well.

dirty69warrior
10-03-2006, 01:50 PM
HKP quite happening leh. last nite was there. alot of people... raba raba.. singer not much flower. not much info on this place yet... as my friends just recently went to attack this place hehehe

i supposed raba is on the girls and not on singers, right? i dun think the singers would do that there, although (to me) there is no big deal about singers. are the singers at least pleasant looking or young? care to share?

GoGoGo
10-03-2006, 03:45 PM
Oh ya also forgot to mention. "Xin Yi Dai" the one at shenton way?? the old ntuc club, where Party World KTV is. have a new singer. doll face, white white... and to me quite cute. when she play game with you and she lose or win.. her facial expression damn nice to watch. gives you a nice feeling. BUT WARNING.. dont make her angry... her angry face will make you laugh. One of my friend got her so angry when she show that face we cant stop ourselves from laughing.
err as for her name.... cant remember she sat wif my friend and i never bother to remember.

mmm.... someone I know? SYT? If SYT, then introduce me next time lah... ;)

deleted_nil
10-03-2006, 04:01 PM
Wah 2 weeks no online see so much post ... btw bros seem to know each other gd coz went out together b4 or what ... anyway frankly i feel for ppl who stuck its beta to really do some thinking ... anyway i not really in a suitation to say ppl or advise ppl coz i not really that long into this joint but hope all bros here will stay gd ... btw juz some points to share :

1.) Singers are human ... for gg these joints u nid to know u gg to find frens or affiar ... so u know how to adept to it and spend...

2.) money is urs ... so spend it to make urself happy and not give ya more problems ...

3.) Don juz dump into the joint coz u may not know when a rainy day come ...

4.) A lot of ways and means to check how singers are but like some bro say ... be wise and try tell is fake of true (*but this 1 hard, till now i haven figure it out) LoL

Cheers to all... Btw the Dephi basement KTV is closed and Sakura is closed ... Rex is not gg to open anymore ...

GoGoGo
10-03-2006, 04:44 PM
Actually, kinda agree... For me, now I just go there make merry with friends... enjoy singer's company... make friends with them (cus dunno why, but somehow, they seem to have slightly higher EQ and IQ than the ktv gals I meet, and feels healthier cus not realli looking for a bonk)... tcss with everyone... hang a little flowers... occassionally, go crazy and hang a bit more, hang for everyone like manager, teacher...etc. So I think mi still quite ok lah... enjoy slightly more quality company, sometimes hang more, boost abit ego. To me, money quite well spent lah... cus end of the day, the money spent gives me enjoyable company and happiness... juz my 1/2c... ;)

BTW, maybe we could have seen each other before.... since the joints are kinda limited also... maybe... maybe... can.. someday... can... ...

Rof|maoxz
10-03-2006, 04:46 PM
BTW, maybe we could have seen each other before.... since the joints are kinda limited also... maybe... maybe... can.. someday... can... ...

GGG, the prince of flowers. :p

teraterm55
10-03-2006, 04:54 PM
Hi, bro. Didn't you say you're "retired for good"? Still quite active mah! ;) Good for us loh.

hehehhe.... not active lor. last time organize and join others.. almost everynite. nowadays i just go when someone invite. and that is also for the bros not the gals.

teraterm55
10-03-2006, 04:58 PM
GGG, the prince of flowers. :p

AGREEE Ahhh.. the singers are like bees. cant wait to fly around GGG.

GoGoGo
10-03-2006, 05:22 PM
GGG, the prince of flowers. :p
AGREEE Ahhh.. the singers are like bees. cant wait to fly around GGG.

You two lidat say me goot meh? Mi juz a newbie leh... this only happens in my dreams... but in my dreams, its flowers cant wait to fly to me... hahaha... $$$$$.... btw, who the SYT singer at New Generation... intro leh.... :D

GoGoGo
10-03-2006, 05:26 PM
HKP quite happening leh. last nite was there. alot of people... raba raba.. singer not much flower. not much info on this place yet... as my friends just recently went to attack this place hehehe

HongKong Palace? wah, there the customers all drink liquor like water one leh... but go there good, save money, want to hang flower also cant find target... :D

hunter1234
11-03-2006, 12:03 AM
Bro is this Fei Fei formerly from DC one:confused:


no lahhhhh DC one just back a few days ago...so i heard...
:D

evo3
11-03-2006, 04:54 PM
Bro Hunter, so your Fei Fei just came back not long lah, so is she in DC.
When are you going to visit her, lat me know and see whether I am free to join you there ok, thks bro

hunter1234
11-03-2006, 06:38 PM
Bro Hunter, so your Fei Fei just came back not long lah, so is she in DC.
When are you going to visit her, lat me know and see whether I am free to join you there ok, thks bro


aiyooo not mine lah...just heard from my friends that she is back lor. i have not stepped in there since this year leh so i cannot verify also...

see who else can verify ? :o

teraterm55
13-03-2006, 02:37 PM
HongKong Palace? wah, there the customers all drink liquor like water one leh... but go there good, save money, want to hang flower also cant find target... :D

sure or not. after you pity some singer start hanging flower and she stick to you like glue again.

GoGoGo
13-03-2006, 03:46 PM
sure or not. after you pity some singer start hanging flower and she stick to you like glue again.

Then I sit outside lo.... and I really mean outside... (On the railing)... :p

teraterm55
13-03-2006, 06:39 PM
Then I sit outside lo.... and I really mean outside... (On the railing)... :p

ok lah. then our next mission will be to sit until the railing break. NO BREAK NO GO HOME. ON ?

hahahahha.. remind me to bring my flame cutter, if really sit cannot break at least when i want to go home can cut the railing into half.. MUAHAHAHAHHAHA

RX-8(SFF4518X)
13-03-2006, 09:39 PM
Pardon me but i always thot hang flower ktvs= old folks home.

hunter1234
13-03-2006, 09:53 PM
see who else can verify ?

hmnmmn confirmed back !

anyone wanna go ? :D

evo3
13-03-2006, 10:03 PM
hunter like that you can cheong again lah ur fei fei is back liao rite

hunter1234
13-03-2006, 10:16 PM
hunter like that you can cheong again lah ur fei fei is back liao rite

no lahhhh me chop hands and legs already.....

but i really like her singing ! :p

RX-8(SFF4518X)
13-03-2006, 10:19 PM
no lahhhh me chop hands and legs already.....

but i really like her singing ! :pwhile holding ur microphone? haha

hunter1234
13-03-2006, 10:42 PM
while holding ur microphone? haha

i hope you are joking !!!

if you can afford a RX8 and not old folks enough then u sure can make an impact in the hang flowers ktvs !!! :rolleyes:

hawker_center
13-03-2006, 11:26 PM
Newbie say hi here! Recently went to Qian Gui at Windsor Hotel (on MacPherson Rd) a few times with buddies. A buddy got really interested in a singer there called Ya Xin, a girl from Chong Qing, sings well, looks pretty. He already invested quite a little and got quite emotionally attached. Any bro here know anything about this particular singer? Any cautions to add? Thanks!

evo3
14-03-2006, 11:18 AM
don't know whether is this Ya Xin same as the one singing in DC, she also come from Ching Qing. :confused:

teraterm55
14-03-2006, 12:01 PM
Pardon me but i always thot hang flower ktvs= old folks home.

well some places like yangtze, hawaii, chianqui are old folks home, but then other place like xin yi dai, DC, hoomiko are mixed. most of the customers there are about 20-30+. and the singers are young and can sing current pop songs.

gangjian
14-03-2006, 01:10 PM
don't know whether is this Ya Xin same as the one singing in DC, she also come from Ching Qing. :confused:

No, the two Ya Xin are two different girls lah! I saw both. The DC one should be already gone, although me not been there for very long. The Ya Xin at Qiangui is shorter, prettier, and sings much better. but i found her on the aggressive side when it comes to getting customers.;) Heard that she's be leaving soon too.

gangjian
14-03-2006, 01:13 PM
well some places like yangtze, hawaii, chianqui are old folks home, but then other place like xin yi dai, DC, hoomiko are mixed. most of the customers there are about 20-30+. and the singers are young and can sing current pop songs.

You don't want to disagree with bro teraterm here. But, :rolleyes: , just IMHO, i found QianGui to be more hip and more suitable for younger bros than Xin Yi Dai. XYD often got old couples dancing on the dance floor, a nice scene to behold, but can ruin the mood for some younger bros lah (no offense, of course).

teraterm55
14-03-2006, 02:43 PM
You don't want to disagree with bro teraterm here. But, :rolleyes: , just IMHO, i found QianGui to be more hip and more suitable for younger bros than Xin Yi Dai. XYD often got old couples dancing on the dance floor, a nice scene to behold, but can ruin the mood for some younger bros lah (no offense, of course).

none taken, open conversations down here lor.
for XYD, agree there are some old couples dancing here and there, but the songs the sing there i find it better than QianGui. Personal preference, but if compare QianGui to XYD.. i rather go XYD.

dirty69warrior
14-03-2006, 03:50 PM
none taken, open conversations down here lor.
for XYD, agree there are some old couples dancing here and there, but the songs the sing there i find it better than QianGui. Personal preference, but if compare QianGui to XYD.. i rather go XYD.

QG vs XYD?!?!?!
was wondering if bros care to share more about these places; price of liquor/beer, ambience, quality of singers, etc.....

deleted_nil
14-03-2006, 06:21 PM
nowadays i heard a lot ppl say these joints is less and less ppl patron ... not sure true or not...