Hanging Flowers Joints

[cx75]

Yesterday was at 百度 with my Kakis. The singers there abt three to four can make it. Not many ppl, only three tables occupied. Most of the singers can sing quite well. The good point is that the waitress never pester us for flower. Sat with one singer from 四川，she is going back this month. Petite and pretty face.

[tanterry]

The HFJ system is indirect prostitution system where indirect commercial force is applied on the singers to "somehow" no matter how, get customers to throw money buying banners and flowers. In addition to the daily PPC, the singers are given specific show dates where they must gather enough customers to throw large amounts of money.

Actually the authorities and licensing body should know more about this.
And put a stop to this.

Maybe cane, fine and imprison some of the "operators" who bring in the singers and exploit them like this.

we might have to ban all private schools from recruiting PRC females. This also could be an indirect prostitution system haha

[tanterry]

Creating difference nick, nia. Somebody here have been zapping me since 2008 (3 times already) and somemore seems to know me personally. I hope not :D

[cx75]

To the fucker who zapped me by saying this below:

"Tell James Tan that he better watch out he cheated people money still acted so yaya"

I am giving my field report for the joint I visited. What has my report got to do with the above statement? You have the ball you confront him, don't have to gave me such msg. :mad: I would rather you zap me relating to my field report if you find it not true. :mad:

Anyway, to this fucker, I have not been with him for many weeks already.

[n733]

Yesterday was at 百度 with my Kakis. The singers there abt three to four can make it. Not many ppl, only three tables occupied. Most of the singers can sing quite well. The good point is that the waitress never pester us for flower. Sat with one singer from 四川，she is going back this month. Petite and pretty face.

bro!u started again! :p

[cx75]

bro!u started again! :p

Haha Bro, no lah. just 6c6c only. hopping from joint to joint.

There is a new joint at telok ayer name 乐，they have local singers also. First time I come across local singers. The singers there mostly young but the beer + nuts is $40, slightly ex. Is a restaurant type of HFJ, day time restaurant, nite time restaurant cum hang flower.

[Alan Ong]

This is the 4th batch already.
DC originally have 5 girls in this 4th batch of dancers, but 1 can't get used to it so quitted within 2 days.

The replacement coming soon.

[roamersg]

DC originally have 5 girls in this 4th batch of dancers, but 1 can't get used to it so quitted within 2 days.


Wow, she lost a lot of money in agent fees, wonder how she can handle that unless she got backer on day 1!

I once met a singer at Huang Chao who was quitting at the end of her 2nd or 3rd week to become a waitress there, as she didn't like the pressure from the customers:D. I said "but at HC there's hardly any hugging or touching compared to a KTV" but she said there was enough for her, and also "other pressures":rolleyes: I did ask her if she thought she could cover all her fees this way and she said she wasn't sure, but needed to make some money before she could leave so would try being a xiao mei. I also met more recently a KTV girl at Havelock who used to be a waitress at a HFJ. She was quite cute so I asked her if many customers wanted to hang her, but she said she got big tips but of course no flowers

The business at HC has really fallen compared to the past, as well as the quantity and quality of girls. Still doing well at Cleopatra though less than before the casino opened. Cleo has such a large number of regular big hangers

[cx75]

To the asshole who zapped me by saying this;

"We had the balls to face James Tan but he constantly change his hp numbers. I know you are his close friend & ever signed a credit card receipt for him. You better go & tell him - retribution will go to his children"

Look. Be a gentleman. I don't know what happen between you two. It is none of my business. I cheong with him, he never cheated me or else I will not cheong with him anymore. I don't like ppl who cheat either but it nvr happen to me. So, please sort out with him and leave me alone.

Every where, there are bad eggs. You can't zap the person just because he knows that bad egg.

I just want to share with like minded Bros on HFJ. Singapore is small, if you have the determination, you can find him . You even know I know him, I am not surprise I know you also, why can't you put in effort to locate him than zapping ppl who knows him. Look at his past thread, you can find him there.

[myebook2008]

we might have to ban all private schools from recruiting PRC females. This also could be an indirect prostitution system haha

True for 'saytoomuch' mentioned. It is a bit different now from old time. But do not be too serious. We can have ToTo, Casino, official things. It's fine to have a few HFJs, KTVs to meet the other needs, Singaporean are still be owners of those places, earn most money, contribute TAX. So long as no girls are killed, no Romania ambassy, why not. Sometimes the life is really boring, you need to have some places to relax. Actually many health centers are more 'DIRECT', provide any 'JOB', however girls there mainly local or Malaysian, they all have proper work permits, and seldom to cause problems. I think I say-too-much, no solution for it. Maybe we can centlize it, do not let it to spread every where in the small city.

[myebook2008]

The business at HC has really fallen compared to the past, as well as the quantity and quality of girls. Still doing well at Cleopatra though less than before the casino opened. Cleo has such a large number of regular big hangers

We've been there a few times, biz is bad, always a few tables only, flower is small. Not sure the old manager mami is still there or not, quite n comfortable. The stage design is bad, and entrance is strange. Somehow got 2nd floor, the girls will go up and down, less control.

I am very curious, how they make money and can survice so long without good business. They must have some business ongoing which I do not know. Any bros can share ?

[myebook2008]

Yesterday was at 百度 with my Kakis. The singers there abt three to four can make it. Not many ppl, only three tables occupied. Most of the singers can sing quite well. The good point is that the waitress never pester us for flower. Sat with one singer from 四川，she is going back this month. Petite and pretty face.

Haha, waitress there not only nice, but very Sui, only a few singers can compare to them if they all dress up the same. Also, singers there 60~80/100, can sing, and seems very much enjoy themself.
The place is quite private but convinient. Not like HC, along Middle Road, easily Du Diao friends, then jalah.

[tanterry]

True for 'saytoomuch' mentioned. It is a bit different now from old time. But do not be too serious. We can have ToTo, Casino, official things. It's fine to have a few HFJs, KTVs to meet the other needs, Singaporean are still be owners of those places, earn most money, contribute TAX. So long as no girls are killed, no Romania ambassy, why not. Sometimes the life is really boring, you need to have some places to relax. Actually many health centers are more 'DIRECT', provide any 'JOB', however girls there mainly local or Malaysian, they all have proper work permits, and seldom to cause problems. I think I say-too-much, no solution for it. Maybe we can centlize it, do not let it to spread every where in the small city.

bro, Just replying to the way it was written. Nothing's serious ;)

[roamersg]

We've been there a few times, biz is bad, always a few tables only, flower is small. Not sure the old manager mami is still there or not, quite n comfortable. The stage design is bad, and entrance is strange. Somehow got 2nd floor, the girls will go up and down, less control.

I am very curious, how they make money and can survice so long without good business. They must have some business ongoing which I do not know. Any bros can share ?

10-18 months ago their business was very good, my sense was below DC and Lido but well above most others like HK Palace and other comparably sized joints. In the early days they had predominantly young singers and more chio ones I thought than most others. That attracted quite a few big hangers, I recall PPCs totalling over $20k several times, even tho no show that nite. I was never a regular goer there, but had seen a few singers who were my taste but they always had big supporters so I didn't want to bother. I don't really know why their biz has fallen so much recently, it's more than just RWS

[titivillus]

Bro, you seem to like promoting dancers? :p
This batch any good, can intro a brief summary or not...

LDH,

No, I am not promoting dancers nor singers. I just found that one of the dnacer from this batch resembles YaYa from the last batch. I don't know their names as I only watch them performing on the stage.

[Mr. X]

Hey bros, if you are into this kind of joint, then let me recommend a place for you:

New Taiwanese Concept Disco in Town - D8 Disco (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/health-centre-ktv-lounge-tangos/178969-new-taiwanese-concept-disco-town-d8-disco.html)

it's very new, just opened last week, inside got Taiwan and local SG gals, quality wise not bad at all, they have sing and dance performances, also got band performing!

i'm only a customer there btw, helping them to promote, pls dun shoot me down :)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Yeah, the new one will also include HFJs

[Loving_Dickhead]

LDH,

No, I am not promoting dancers nor singers. I just found that one of the dnacer from this batch resembles YaYa from the last batch. I don't know their names as I only watch them performing on the stage.

:D me quite long time never go DC liaoz ... even if I will it will be the occasional blue-moon le.

If you got more intel on the new batch of dancers, please do let me know. I love dancers somehow... something about movements make the gals so exotic. kekeke.

:)

[Smeagol]

play HFJ .... throw money to buy FACE.....throw money to bed singers........ I play a few years cannot tahan leow...... surrender...huh huh

anyway..... recently I've been visiting EZ50 at ONE NEIL Road

Live band.... quality singing and dancers dressing very naughty.
2 female vocalist and 2 male vocalist. All 4 singing kick ass. Sure beats going to hfj with lousy singers constantly raping my ears. One of EZ50 female vocalist used to work in other hfj... old timers may recognise her.

As for the cutie dancers..... they are persistantly peddling LDs. No big deal... buy a couple and they'll accompany... tok kork, play pool. Oh btw... the pole dancers also kick ass good.

A nice place to drink and relax. Patrons do hang flowers.... yet to see any bidding wars. Hope there won't be any..... as for any ECAs with the singer/dancers...... I really don't know.... and I don't even wanna try.

Nevertheless.... with $$$ and KC.... no pussy cannot be bought.

[XiBeiSong]

anyway..... recently I've been visiting EZ50 at ONE NEIL Road

Live band.... quality singing and dancers dressing very naughty.
2 female vocalist and 2 male vocalist. All 4 singing kick ass. Sure beats going to hfj with lousy singers constantly raping my ears. One of EZ50 female vocalist used to work in other hfj... old timers may recognise her.

As for the cutie dancers..... they are persistantly peddling LDs. No big deal... buy a couple and they'll accompany... tok kork, play pool. Oh btw... the pole dancers also kick ass good.

A nice place to drink and relax. Patrons do hang flowers....


So do the dancer or singer come sit n talk to u?

[Smeagol]

So do the dancer or singer come sit n talk to u?

if u hang flower for the singers.... they will sit and tok kork with u. As for the dancers.... they come tok to u with tray full of LDs... ha ah

[roamersg]

recently I've been visiting EZ50 at ONE NEIL Road


agree this is good place, quite fun. One downside of HFJ is that while the long dresses can be fun to see, I miss the amount of skin one can see at KTVs, while 50s lets you see the real figure:D! Also nice to hear some fast and rocking music rather than the love ballads all nite at usual HFJ. Very economical, no pressure for hanging or LDs, though I always buy some drinks from the dancers. One difference is that they are happy if you buy drinks for yourselves, as opposed to Thai LD places where the diluted drinks is for them. Only downside perhaps is very loud for staying more than a few hours

[jacky chan]

Anyone been to 香城 located at Holiday Inn at Havelock? Been there recently to 6c6c. Ok place. Beer at around $25. Cant really remember. Girls wise more to late 20s. Ok place to relax. :D

Me was xiang cheng regular..hehe. The lady boss is xiang xiang...me always go there drink green tea and always onli hang one gal only. No complaints from the manager.

Recently there are few new gals as the old gals had gone home, This few new gal can sing well. But this place is a bit quiet some times but good for us. Cos u are enjoy and sit there whole nite with yr gal.


Now they are having a mass magic show performance to enhaunce the show . As bro said before, u can hang $30 if u want....:D.

I always spent $188 WHEN I m there, $150 for my gal, $10 ea for the 2 servers and $18 for a jar of green tea which last whole nite.

[jacky chan]

Any bro try Armani at JS...is it a FHJ too..heard that $130 for 4 jars of beer.lot of viet there and lot of singers,,,with KTV room too...any bro can share their experience there if u are a regular there. Tx.


ok, found the thread on this armani, thanks...but the story told by bros here is different from what my fren said??/

[roamersg]

Any bro try Armani at JS...is it a FHJ too..heard that $130 for 4 jars of beer.lot of viet there and lot of singers,,,with KTV room too...any bro can share their experience there if u are a regular there. Tx.


Thx for info on Xiangcheng, appreciate you added the $$ so we know it's acceptable to keep spending low!

I admit I have not been to Armani HFJ for a while, about a year. And I didn't go back b/c 1) the singers I thought were lower quality in looks and singing than most other HFJs at the time and 2) now much fewer PRCs in the KTV, much more Viet as you say. I previously went to HFJ to support a friend who was a singer, so spent some time in the hall. And when I went to KTV room before would stop by HFJ for a bit. So my info is too dated, but I suspect, given how other bros say the KTV has declined in PRC quality at least (at one point was regarded as one of the best for Pho, maybe still the case today, but I prefer PRC), my suspicious is HFJ has not improved enough

[myebook2008]

Thx for info on Xiangcheng, appreciate you added the $$ so we know it's acceptable to keep spending low!
...
I normally go there during Happy Hour only. Went there very during one weekday, many girls there, mainly PRC. It is too crowd, I do not really like to go, unless friends invite. Viet gals, maybe they come in late time, I didn't see too many. So so lah, can not compare to DC or TAM, very young and sui. KaraOK system, quality no good, maybe used too long, or it is 2nd hand ones.

[jacky chan]

xiang cheng start at 9.30 but the gal wil be there at 9pm. They start at 9.30 and end at abt 10.15 then follow by customer karaoke till 11.pm. Then start 2nd show ,after complete the round,straight goes to ppc.it end abt 12.+. Then karaoke again. And the last round wil be 1am. Weekday close at 2.30am. Weekend will be later. For infor, all singers are prc. Hope tis wil help those bro who want to go xiang cheng.

[jacky chan]

the other one i use to go before is shangrila which is opp rex cinema. It located at basement 2 and basement one is a malay pub. Tis place is small and most of them is ah pek. But min is $30. Nt much looker but hv few. Me nvr been there o months liao after i kmw xiang cheng.jus for infor.

[jacky chan]

one more i use to patronise is located at golden mile complex where u take a bus to malaysia. Tis place at story 1 jus beside the kopi shop,call zui hua ting. Got 3 karaoke rm wi gd system. Outside the main hall is the stage. Min 30 dollar and used to have nice and pretty gals. But oso nvr been there for quite some time liao. One thing gd is tat, if u don like tis place ,u jus walk to mext building basement ,there is another hfj, i think is call ying he, lot of pretty gals too.

[Chengdu dog]

Just now 12pm I went to Ang Mo Kio Hub for lunch.
As I went up to level 3 Foodfare foodcourt, I saw a familiar ugly old man queuing in Vegetarian stall.
I see the queue is quiet long I joined in.

Oh I saw Dayview2004 (James Tan) buying vegetarian food :D for lunch, the stall cashier told him "Uncle, $3.50"
but I saw James only dig out a piece of $2 & some coins and that added to be $3.30 with shortfall of $0.20.
James told the stall cashier that I have only $3.30 can OWE you $0.20 first or not.
The cashier see James so old & pathetic :(..she waived the $0.20 for him to have a decent meal :)

[Xaint]

agree this is good place, quite fun. One downside of HFJ is that while the long dresses can be fun to see, I miss the amount of skin one can see at KTVs, while 50s lets you see the real figure:D! Also nice to hear some fast and rocking music rather than the love ballads all nite at usual HFJ. Very economical, no pressure for hanging or LDs, though I always buy some drinks from the dancers. One difference is that they are happy if you buy drinks for yourselves, as opposed to Thai LD places where the diluted drinks is for them. Only downside perhaps is very loud for staying more than a few hours


I have been visiting this place for the past 3 month. begin it was fun, but lately it was boring. Y? 1) This joint doesn't pull much crorwd, only 40%, consider the big space they are having. 2) The Singer can sing, but in term of looks and coustme, really very far apart compare to other joint 3) Dancer is pushy for LD, and their LD is totaly ripe off ( 1 tiny little tube, with don't know what kind of drink is inside there, Yark!. If this place is really own by jackie chan, then can some ask him to focus more on this place then rather making some boring hollywood movie?

[tanterry]

one more i use to patronise is located at golden mile complex where u take a bus to malaysia. Tis place at story 1 jus beside the kopi shop,call zui hua ting. Got 3 karaoke rm wi gd system. Outside the main hall is the stage. Min 30 dollar and used to have nice and pretty gals. But oso nvr been there for quite some time liao.


one of the singers work part time in a ktv. So was intro to this place and gone there once sometime ago to see her sing. only her and another one ok looking only but then have few singers there:D

[jacky chan]

me more than 8 mths nvr go zui hua ting liao..hehe.nw alwayr hang out at xiang cheng.

[chicken_little_]

Hi,

Will like to share a Hang Flower Joint at China Street call MOKO Club. Alot of people giving good feedback on this place.

Believe it with your own eyes!!!

Website: MOKO (http://www.moko.sg)
Fan Group: Moko Club (http://www.facebook.com/Moko.Club)

[jacky chan]

nice place..tx

[omega3]

Well it seems a while since i have posted here


how fast times flies when you are having fun

from not knowing anything till knowing a little bit more.

for those who wish to know, there are over 150 registered hanging flower joint in singapore,
for the past 4 years i have personally encountered many interesting stories, and i must say that since my intro HFJ i have really enjoyed myself so much that the other places like pubs ,disco , having suddenly become really boring

I remembered that i said after the first one i shall stop . well am i am into the sixth one now and still stuck....

Ever since the casino opened times have been difficult for some of these girls. I thought that fewer singers will want to come back.

but I guess that as long as the yuan remains undervalue we shall still see some gems coming to our shores..

So have fun guys..:) and take precautions as well

[jacky chan]

ya take precation..don anyhow hang for no reason. Cos money don come easy. One of my fren jus like to hang lot of gals til nw still owe the joint a few thousands and have not pay yet. Don be pei sei if u don want to hang cos u hv the rights to do it. Cheers. We care we share.

[MoralEpitome]

ya take precation..don anyhow hang for no reason. Cos money don come easy. One of my fren jus like to hang lot of gals til nw still owe the joint a few thousands and have not pay yet. Don be pei sei if u don want to hang cos u hv the rights to do it. Cheers. We care we share.

can hang and owe first? they always very fast to take money from me...be it 50 or 500....lol...is it possible to hang 20k and owe first?

[jacky chan]

u cannot owe.my fren can cos he knw the manager well and is a regular.

[MoralEpitome]

u cannot owe.my fren can cos he knw the manager well and is a regular.

i see....i also regular and knows the manager well....maybe i only hang 500 so cannot owe...think if i hang 10k he will allow me to owe....lol....but yes must control....i admit it's very addictive...

[mansgp]

While it may be troublesome to carry wads of notes to settle "flower" money on every visit, refrain from "hang now pay later" as you won't feel the pinch until the given settlement date.

It's been a while since my last visit to DC. Any more gossips or updates? Are the regular big timers still around?

[myebook2008]

While it may be troublesome to carry wads of notes to settle "flower" money on every visit, refrain from "hang now pay later" as you won't feel the pinch until the given settlement date.

It's been a while since my last visit to DC. Any more gossips or updates? Are the regular big timers still around?

Agree. Also the HFJ environment is important. I mentioned before, places like DC, Amani, the air is quite smelling. If you drove home after the visit, your car inside also smelling. That is the bad thing about these old places. So normally I go new places now. Like Le Forbidden City, just open a few weeks, air is still fresh. But the boss is a bit cost-saving, the KaraOKsystem is not so good. I guess need a few months to burn it to be better.

Very GiaSu now, no choice. Do not blame me, ha.

[otur]

play HFJ .... throw money to buy FACE.....throw money to bed singers........ I play a few years cannot tahan leow...... surrender...huh huh

anyway..... recently I've been visiting EZ50 at ONE NEIL Road

Nevertheless.... with $$$ and KC.... no pussy cannot be bought.

hahaha how come i no see u? i go there too...

[myebook2008]

hahaha how come i no see u? i go there too...
EZ50, I was there once only. Quite small, but singers ok. It's difficult to stop hfj visiting, even you know clearly it is not worth, waste time, waste money. And these gals do not trust guests, except monry. Sometimes, just can not resist. One tip is to delete all phone numbers of these places and gals, and do not give numbers out. Otherwise, they haunting you from 11pm to 1am, headache.

Plan to visit more Open concept ones, any recommendations from the thread ?

[saytoomuch]

EZ50, One tip is to delete all phone numbers of these places and gals, and do not give numbers out.

It is a big taboo to give out your personal handphone number to HFJ singers.
Worse to hand out name cards to them. (shudder...yuks!...) There are a few rare clowns who do it, hoping to impress and wishing that the singer would want to know them better. When you spot someone at the next table doing it, you immediately know what a loser that person is. This is regardless of how many bottles of XO are on that loser's table - so what?
It is one of the biggest Must-Not-Do rules when going to HFJ.
Only idiots trying too hard to impress do it.

Always protect your privacy from the HFJ staff & singers. Do let them know too much about yourself. If you have a big mouth fool amongst your group who used to go with you to HFJ together; and you later discover that he blabbers everything about you without your permission to the staff & singers, avoid this creep for the longest time.

[omega3]

EZ50 Sometimes, just can not resist. One tip is to delete all phone numbers of these places and gals, and do not give numbers out. Otherwise, they haunting you from 11pm to 1am, headache.

Plan to visit more Open concept ones, any recommendations from the thread ?



I would suggest a second phone :)........
learn my lesson too.....

[Mr. X]

EZ50, I was there once only. Quite small, but singers ok. It's difficult to stop hfj visiting, even you know clearly it is not worth, waste time, waste money. And these gals do not trust guests, except monry. Sometimes, just can not resist. One tip is to delete all phone numbers of these places and gals, and do not give numbers out. Otherwise, they haunting you from 11pm to 1am, headache.

Plan to visit more Open concept ones, any recommendations from the thread ?

Try this?

New Taiwanese Concept Disco in Town - D8 Disco (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/health-centre-ktv-lounge-tangos/178969-new-taiwanese-concept-disco-town-d8-disco.html)

[Loving_Dickhead]

Bro, absolutely right!
The biggest taboo is to give out your PERSONAL contact details; including place of work, home address, mobile phone #.

Always get a secondary line or pre-paid card and consistently use that number. When cheonging, place your personal phone in the car and divert all calls to your pre-paid/secondary line.

One of my staff used to follow me when I do my entertainment - he likes to distribute his name cards not only to clients but also to the WLs and Singers. What fark!? I was already very annoyed and the last straw came when he told some singers that I am his boss. :eek: Bloody CCB!!!

I told him after the session "Enjoy your last day. I won't be seeing you tomorrow." :D

It is a big taboo to give out your personal handphone number to HFJ singers.
Worse to hand out name cards to them. (shudder...yuks!...) There are a few rare clowns who do it, hoping to impress and wishing that the singer would want to know them better. When you spot someone at the next table doing it, you immediately know what a loser that person is. This is regardless of how many bottles of XO are on that loser's table - so what?
It is one of the biggest Must-Not-Do rules when going to HFJ.
Only idiots trying too hard to impress do it.

Always protect your privacy from the HFJ staff & singers. Do let them know too much about yourself. If you have a big mouth fool amongst your group who used to go with you to HFJ together; and you later discover that he blabbers everything about you without your permission to the staff & singers, avoid this creep for the longest time.

[jacky chan]

me always get a secnndhand cheap phone with a prepaid card . At nite at hm jus off it and always put a security code so no one can on it.

[Liuda]

Does any bro heard of or been to 女儿国 or 水晶宫？ Where are these places located? What is your take on them? Any good? In term of singers number, look, singing ability, age, and business.

I ve got a fren been offered a place to work there. Any information would be greatly appreciated. :)

[MoralEpitome]

Does any bro heard of or been to 女儿国 or 水晶宫？ Where are these places located? What is your take on them? Any good? In term of singers number, look, singing ability, age, and business.

I ve got a fren been offered a place to work there. Any information would be greatly appreciated. :)

cannot make it joints....at middle road...the singers work at HH at CJ to earn some extra money....ask me for 2k a mth to supplement their income....got a few not bad but act innocent and cannot fuck....aiya what you expect...

[Smeagol]

女儿国: formerly JinSha at mosque street

[Big Semens]

Visted a HFJ Starlite at Cuppage Plaza ..... about 17 female singers mostly from Congqing.

Next door under the same management, they just opened a male singers HFJ patronised by ladies. All male singers are PRCs. They call this place 鸭子场 :D The flowers seems not bad here.....

[myebook2008]

女儿国: formerly JinSha at mosque street

Chelsea 8:0 Wigan, Drogba top scorer, perfect ending of English Premier.

女儿国, I saw it is actually called 女儿国 PUB, not sure whether the style changed. Last time it is 金沙 with HFJ and a few KTV rooms. I saw one singer at 杨贵妃 now from 金沙.

Hope some bro can share the info about 女儿国.

[Liuda]

Thank you very much to bros Smeagol, MoralEpitome and Myebook2008 for the information. Seems like names and places come and go very fast.

Cheers

[tanterry]

Thank you very much to bros Smeagol, MoralEpitome and Myebook2008 for the information. Seems like names and places come and go very fast.

Cheers

yeah too many joints in a cramp and competitve spot

[MoralEpitome]

Bro, absolutely right!
The biggest taboo is to give out your PERSONAL contact details; including place of work, home address, mobile phone #.

Always get a secondary line or pre-paid card and consistently use that number. When cheonging, place your personal phone in the car and divert all calls to your pre-paid/secondary line.

One of my staff used to follow me when I do my entertainment - he likes to distribute his name cards not only to clients but also to the WLs and Singers. What fark!? I was already very annoyed and the last straw came when he told some singers that I am his boss. :eek: Bloody CCB!!!

I told him after the session "Enjoy your last day. I won't be seeing you tomorrow." :D

damn it...someone also just exposed me to everyone at a certain joint...damn pissed off...too bad he is not my staff if not I will fuck him unside down...damn cb these people damn big mouth...can say what industry i am in but no need to talk cock and tell people i am some big shot manager at what company! especially when it is not true! the big shot part

[MoralEpitome]

Thank you very much to bros Smeagol, MoralEpitome and Myebook2008 for the information. Seems like names and places come and go very fast.

Cheers

let's stick to normal joints....these hfj are not value for money...have to spend quite a lot before you can get to up the girls....say you buy them out a night it costs about 600+ plus all the hanging flowers....easily cost you 20k a mth...20k i rather buy a shit stock and maybe one fine day it can become 40k

[teraterm55]

let's stick to normal joints....these hfj are not value for money...have to spend quite a lot before you can get to up the girls....say you buy them out a night it costs about 600+ plus all the hanging flowers....easily cost you 20k a mth...20k i rather buy a shit stock and maybe one fine day it can become 40k

agreed with the wasting money part.. but for most joint if you wanna BAO the gal, you only need to pay 2.5K not 20K... dont forget their flower they get a percentage out of it. the company only takes like 20%-30%. even if the company say you have to pay the full amount of her quota.. its only around 6K-10k depending on the joint.

You just have to talk to the joints manager for this arrangement.

[MoralEpitome]

agreed with the wasting money part.. but for most joint if you wanna BAO the gal, you only need to pay 2.5K not 20K... dont forget their flower they get a percentage out of it. the company only takes like 20%-30%. even if the company say you have to pay the full amount of her quota.. its only around 6K-10k depending on the joint.

You just have to talk to the joints manager for this arrangement.

wat joints is 2.5k? even mid range joints needs about 500 per day...unless you expect her to work more than half the time?....i suppose it depend on the joint....think quota is about 8k for most joints...i once know a chio young ger from hawaii...too bad she insisted that i must be bf then can fuck...

[Smeagol]

many years ago I venture into HFJ just to see whether with money singer pussies can be bought. Bought and screwed a couple of them..... enuff leow. These pussies are not much diff from other pussies. The only addictive thingy is the face and kick of throwing money. After sometime.... also meaningless

Officially retired from HFJ.

[puritylee]

Former Sandborg boss open new HFJ Joint name 金尊 at Parklane Basement 1. There are now 15 singers, and eventually will have 30 by month end. Many singers are back here on their second or 3rd stint, saw some formerly from Sandborg, Macau and Dongmen.

The rooms all have full height windows, and face the stage/hall. There are about 8 - 10 rooms with karaoke system.

Can check it out. Ambience not bad.

[horsebite]

Former Sandborg boss open new HFJ Joint name 金尊 at Parklane Basement 1. There are now 15 singers, and eventually will have 30 by month end. Many singers are back here on their second or 3rd stint, saw some formerly from Sandborg, Macau and Dongmen.

The rooms all have full height windows, and face the stage/hall. There are about 8 - 10 rooms with karaoke system.

Can check it out. Ambience not bad.

Well. i been there. It has the best 排排唱 routine around. effort was put in to ensure maximum viewing pleasure as you part ways with your money.:D

[puritylee]

Well. i been there. It has the best 排排唱 routine around. effort was put in to ensure maximum viewing pleasure as you part ways with your money.:D
I have never stay until PPC.... so girls looks not bad

[horsebite]

I have never stay until PPC.... so girls looks not bad

you should stay......the entertainment segment is truly enjoying.

lookout for the song " 甜蜜蜜“

[tanterry]

many years ago I venture into HFJ just to see whether with money singer pussies can be bought. Bought and screwed a couple of them..... enuff leow. These pussies are not much diff from other pussies. The only addictive thingy is the face and kick of throwing money. After sometime.... also meaningless

Officially retired from HFJ.

i also concur that

money burned plus developed panda eye haha gonna retired soon:)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

i also concur that

money burned plus developed panda eye haha gonna retired soon:)

Dun retire so soon....come join me la.....
You knows where i go now wat.......

[Smeagol]

last week got a sms from a PRC KTV chic I've known for years. Northern chick with the most voluptious curves. SHE'S BACK!!!!!!..... as a singer...huh????

Performing artist visa must getting easier to obtain..... ex KTV chic skewered by my dick for countless time is now suddenly a singer??? Judging from the way she moan..... I doubt she's can sing to save herself.

Point is....... careful where you spend your $$$ in hfj...... these chics may not be as special as you fantasize them to be. Perhaps just another transformed KTV WL.

2 cents

[XiBeiSong]

agree with bro ssmeagol. I do know personally some ktv chics came back with singers permits. Worse still some singers tell me tat they were here previously stand street in geylang. Why so was cos it is very easy to get singers permit nowadays as more hfj setting up. Second it is saver here with the permits. At least it is legal. Easier for them to trade too. So bros if u think u got a gd deal with a singer gem. Better think twice as it may not be as worth it as u think. Cheers.

[saytoomuch]

The business model works and that is why HFJ and nightclubs thrive in good times. It is true that some singers can be found previously at certain G area.
But not common. If people pay a lot at HFJ for the same singer thinking they got a gem, then it is a tribute to good marketing.

But then again it is not because the spenders are stupid. No. They know what this is about.

But for many good reasons, they cannot be seen hanging around at the G area gawking at the ladies parading themselves on the G area road side (watch out - got police TV cameras installed at the lamp posts recording everything on certain streets and junctions).

So the HFJ and nightclubs become safe and useful pickup RZ, even though they know they pay more.

[tanterry]

Dun retire so soon....come join me la.....
You knows where i go now wat.......

retired... at least at cmc lol

[DO_YOU_BJ]

retired... at least at cmc lol

Of cos I knows u retire from club cmc liaozzzz
But u also can come join me in the same building wor
Bro MoralEpitome also very da welcome but like you all go everywhere except where i go.
Y like that?

[MoralEpitome]

Of cos I knows u retire from club cmc liaozzzz
But u also can come join me in the same building wor
Bro MoralEpitome also very da welcome but like you all go everywhere except where i go.
Y like that?

I also want to retire la...the past 3 mths been spending money like your spermflow....I assume it's alot....lost track of how much I spent but it is definitely above budget....becos I am withdrawing money from my savings account and not my spending account....hahahaha....can pm me where's your other haunt now....level 7? I just got to know a ger from level 2 now working at level 7...not bad...side view looks like shuqi....should be easier meat than u know who and the kimchi-jap ger....the kimchi-jap girl very disappointed with me after i told her i will not hang u noe who anymore but still went to hang her and don't trust me anymore...oh well....doesn't matter, many fishes in the ocean...

[DO_YOU_BJ]

The same place where you came to get the access card the last time lol

[K9696]

last week got a sms from a PRC KTV chic I've known for years. Northern chick with the most voluptious curves. SHE'S BACK!!!!!!..... as a singer...huh????

Performing artist visa must getting easier to obtain..... ex KTV chic skewered by my dick for countless time is now suddenly a singer??? Judging from the way she moan..... I doubt she's can sing to save herself.

Point is....... careful where you spend your $$$ in hfj...... these chics may not be as special as you fantasize them to be. Perhaps just another transformed KTV WL.

2 cents

You can find some chick from a website who is moonlighting from 10am to 3pm,, then night time doing "singer-Job",,...

[DO_YOU_BJ]

You can find some chick from a website who is moonlighting from 10am to 3pm,, then night time doing "singer-Job",,...

hahaha well said lolzzzz

[MoralEpitome]

The same place where you came to get the access card the last time lol

lol...really dun tink i met u b4 bro...

[Chengdu dog]

last week got a sms from a PRC KTV chic I've known for years. Northern chick with the most voluptious curves. SHE'S BACK!!!!!!..... as a singer...huh????

Performing artist visa must getting easier to obtain..... ex KTV chic skewered by my dick for countless time is now suddenly a singer??? Judging from the way she moan..... I doubt she's can sing to save herself.

Point is....... careful where you spend your $$$ in hfj...... these chics may not be as special as you fantasize them to be. Perhaps just another transformed KTV WL.

2 cents

You should tell all these to James Tan :D

[K9696]

The same place where you came to get the access card the last time lol

May i know...the place..?:D

[Smeagol]

You should tell all these to James Tan :D

you're one of those pesky dogs I won't hesitate to KICK!!! :)

[Smeagol]

Smeagol: 美女，最近有遇到你喜欢的男人吗？

女歌星: 没有啦，和你一样每晚独守空房。

Smeagol: 空房？不是有别的歌星和你一起住吗？如果憋不下去，就和她搞同志恋咯！

女歌星: 差不多了，男人是什么”样“我都不记得了！

Smeagol: 没什么不一样的，比你们多了一根东西，比你们少了两磅肉。呵呵，如果拿你来做比较，应该不止两 磅！！

女歌星: 你挺注意我的吗？我身上那有多少肉你也知道？

Smeagol: 瞎子才看不见，想了都会流鼻血。你以为我不想要吗!! 我不是第一天在花场玩，我没能力长期为你完成花场的任务，你还是别把自己浪费在我身上。呵呵

女歌星: 不会吧？你是还对你的最爱忠心罢了！

Smeagol: 拍拖，来花场玩的男人会对女孩忠心吗？如果有的话，肯定也不会是我。啊，我好想又要流鼻血了: D

女歌星: 来呀，我来给你止血！

Smeagol: 哇！我付不起你那昂贵的”长期“治疗费！我还是自己解决算了！

女歌星: 没关系，我给你做义工慈善!

Smeagol: 哇！！！太感谢了，那天我真的破产没钱了，我一定记得来找你给我止血，止痛，止郁闷。最重要的，，，，，， 给我止痒！！哈哈哈

女歌星: 欢迎光临。

[tanterry]

I also want to 流鼻血 leh. which joint ah?

[Chengdu dog]

you're one of those pesky dogs I won't hesitate to KICK!!! :)

huh ... please don't kick me :(

wait later James Tan will say you people like to throw money & pamper the PRC singers.
Unlike him, James Tan alway said he is sneaky and avoid paying his own shares when necessary.
Until his wife also found out all these shits :D

[MoralEpitome]

huh ... please don't kick me :(

wait later James Tan will say you people like to throw money & pamper the PRC singers.
Unlike him, James Tan alway said he is sneaky and avoid paying his own shares when necessary.
Until his wife also found out all these shits :D

LOL this James tan sounds like a sneaky person who try to cheat his brudders and cobroke girls behind his's brudders'sback..

[Smeagol]

I also want to 流鼻血 leh. which joint ah?

Gimme some incentives lah...... then i tell u :D

[tanterry]

Gimme some incentives lah...... then i tell u :D

But I thought you had officially retired from HFJ :D

[MoralEpitome]

But I thought you had officially retired from HFJ :D

TanTerry bro....I made contact with younger cousin out of boredom yesterday....you should see the look on the faces of the people there....must be thinking...this fucking idiot try to sian older cousin, now older cousin gone, sianz younger cousin....hahahaha.....it was damn funny...

Today was quite a bad cheonging day....went early to another joint...saw this very good quality syt 21 years old from GuangZhou....knn...straight away tell me all the shit about how she rejected people who wants to bao her and all that shit..said she not so stupid to be taken in....so I ask her if she can chu....she said yes....no girl won't chu...it's just how much only...so I ask her how much she want...she said depends....so I ask her depends on what...she said since she is so young and so chio....she won't anyhow chu...only chu with people who tip her 300-400...because if these people will give her 800-1000 if she chu with them....and boost that with her quality she chu one time equals to other girls chu many times...hahahah....then admit to me that she just wan to earn money...came back quite early so I suan her how come come back so fast I tot u told me u wan to butterfly at least 6 customers....end up she kaykay tell me she wants to go home and ask me to take care of her....she said abit can leow....so I gave her 2 dollars and she kaykay rubbah rubbah abit said dun joke la...so I just give her my wallet and ask her take herself... i realise these girls really cmi nowadays....but again it's my fault because I only take the good ones...

[tanterry]

TanTerry bro....I made contact with younger cousin out of boredom yesterday....you should see the look on the faces of the people there....must be thinking...this fucking idiot try to sian older cousin, now older cousin gone, sianz younger cousin....hahahaha.....it was damn funny...



Hanged liao ah!? I knew you'd make the move.
why hesitate. Nobody's thinking of that. Help to take care of her relative wat lol

[Liuda]

Last week I saw a hang flower scam in action.

Two men went to a small hf joint, one in early twenties another probably in fifties. Dressed in simple men in the street attire. No one had seen them before, must be first-timer there. Sat down ordered a jug of beer. Singer manager came then offered to introduce singers to them. Two to three singers took turn to chat with them. The young man started shy and only played cards with the singers. After breaking ice, he was having a good time grabbing left and right. Then came PPC time, the young man hanged small flower for a singer. The older man hanged $1000 for the singer manager. After PPC, the older man had a song request, sang by 2 singers, up went $1000 each. More beer was ordered, another $1000 flew to another singer. More singers joined the table for a piece of the action. Suspicion began to grow as to whether these two first-timers could afford the bill. By then, the older man had went out on the pretext of taking a phone call. Closing time came. Older man vanished. Young man panicked, trying frantically to reach the older man on the phone to no avail. I didn’t stay long enough to watch the sad ending. I guess the young man was being used as the scapegoat. At least he had had his share of pleasure before the slaughter.

Moral of the story: Never go hfj with unfamiliar people.

(LOL no wonder no one responded when I jio ppl to go hfj.)

Cheers

[Liuda]

Last week I saw a hang flower scam in action.

Two men went to a small hf joint, one in early twenties another probably in fifties. Dressed in simple men in the street attire. No one had seen them before, must be first-timer there. Sat down ordered a jug of beer. Singer manager came then offered to introduce singers to them. Two to three singers took turn to chat with them. The young man started shy and only played cards with the singers. After breaking ice, he was having a good time grabbing left and right. Then came PPC time, the young man hanged small flower for a singer. The older man hanged $1000 for the singer manager. After PPC, the older man had a song request, sang by 2 singers, up went $1000 each. More beer was ordered, another $1000 flew to another singer. More singers joined the table for a piece of the action. Suspicion began to grow as to whether these two first-timers could afford the bill. By then, the older man had went out on the pretext of taking a phone call. Closing time came. Older man vanished. Young man panicked, trying frantically to reach the older man on the phone to no avail. I didn’t stay long enough to watch the sad ending. I guess the young man was being used as the scapegoat. At least he had had his share of pleasure before the slaughter.

Moral of the story: Never go hfj with unfamiliar people.

(LOL no wonder no one responded when I jio ppl to go hfj.)

Cheers

[popee16]

Any Bro tried this new HFJ call Jade Palace (玉宫) at Beach Road?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

(LOL no wonder no one responded when I jio ppl to go hfj.)

Cheers

U never jio me wor haha

[MoralEpitome]

Hanged liao ah!? I knew you'd make the move.
why hesitate. Nobody's thinking of that. Help to take care of her relative wat lol

sori i took so long to reply becos i having problem logging into various threads....yeah i made the move leow....but so far mainly tip her only and only hang her once...i told her that i promised the cousin i wun hang flowers anymore...hahahah.....anyway i dun really bother her and dun take her number....and she dun bother me if i have other girls with me...today was quite interesting...had a long talk with her and she told me that she's having difficulty hitting the target...so I told her I will ask you to support her also...hahahahah....maybe you can go and help her out abit la...abit here abit there goes a long way...

[MoralEpitome]

Last week I saw a hang flower scam in action.

Two men went to a small hf joint, one in early twenties another probably in fifties. Dressed in simple men in the street attire. No one had seen them before, must be first-timer there. Sat down ordered a jug of beer. Singer manager came then offered to introduce singers to them. Two to three singers took turn to chat with them. The young man started shy and only played cards with the singers. After breaking ice, he was having a good time grabbing left and right. Then came PPC time, the young man hanged small flower for a singer. The older man hanged $1000 for the singer manager. After PPC, the older man had a song request, sang by 2 singers, up went $1000 each. More beer was ordered, another $1000 flew to another singer. More singers joined the table for a piece of the action. Suspicion began to grow as to whether these two first-timers could afford the bill. By then, the older man had went out on the pretext of taking a phone call. Closing time came. Older man vanished. Young man panicked, trying frantically to reach the older man on the phone to no avail. I didn’t stay long enough to watch the sad ending. I guess the young man was being used as the scapegoat. At least he had had his share of pleasure before the slaughter.

Moral of the story: Never go hfj with unfamiliar people.

(LOL no wonder no one responded when I jio ppl to go hfj.)

Cheers

what a scam...today i also learn of another scheme some big time flower hangers use on singers...this world is like that one...always be careful....that's why i rather go alone then go with person i don't know.....many fuggers ard..

[myebook2008]

Got any hfj with singers who really sing well ? Visited a few these days, can not stand.

[Liuda]

U never jio me wor haha

How to jio you, Bro? You re always so busy at your forte. :D
I like going places.

Cheers,

[Liuda]

Got any hfj with good singers ? Visited a few these days, can not stand.

Bro, have you been to your all time favourite 188 lately? 2 non-syt singers with good voice had finished contract few months ago. Now there is a petite singer with a power voice like 田震。 Or try 50, there is one with a low soothing voice but not eye candy, plus a couple of them can carry a tune well. :D

Anyone knows a hfj called 夜吻, said to be along North Bridge Road but didnt see such name?

Cheers

[tanterry]

Bro, have you been to your all time favourite 188 lately? 2 non-syt singers with good voice had finished contract few months ago. Now there is a petite singer with a power voice like 田震。 Or try 50, there is one with a low soothing voice but not eye candy, plus a couple of them can carry a tune well. :D

Anyone knows a hfj called 夜吻, said to be along North Bridge Road but didnt see such name?

Cheers

Remember came across a ktv gal and she told me she is one of the singers from 夜吻. Heard from her business is bad and they only required to work 4 days per week. Their off days are on friday, saturday and sunday hahaha really jialat:p

[tanterry]

sori i took so long to reply becos i having problem logging into various threads....yeah i made the move leow....but so far mainly tip her only and only hang her once...i told her that i promised the cousin i wun hang flowers anymore...hahahah.....anyway i dun really bother her and dun take her number....and she dun bother me if i have other girls with me...today was quite interesting...had a long talk with her and she told me that she's having difficulty hitting the target...so I told her I will ask you to support her also...hahahahah....maybe you can go and help her out abit la...abit here abit there goes a long way...

ok going to check it out tonight

tried of DM liao cos singers getting a bit political. Seemed that I service them instead of the other ways around, somemore whenever there need to service 3 accounts. last night is the last time liao lol

[MoralEpitome]

ok going to check it out tonight

tried of DM liao cos singers getting a bit political. Seemed that I service them instead of the other ways around, somemore whenever there need to service 3 accounts. last night is the last time liao lol

wah lao...service 3 accounts...u r da man...yeah say hi to 288 tonight...she has changed her hairstyle, looks much better now...she's getting abit more interesting now...i felt bad that i did not hang her and only tipped her....tonight is OC night so can't go...can send my regards to her also...haha...ask her if any guru been advising her the past few days...

[DO_YOU_BJ]

How to jio you, Bro? You re always so busy at your forte. :D
I like going places.

Cheers,

Always eat abalone also sian wat bro, sometimes must switch to sharks fin mah.......

[K9696]

Got any hfj with singers who really sing well ? Visited a few these days, can not stand.

you can try HONG YAN红颜,keyboard teacher can sing, also the stage manager, both are equally good.
Located at 2nd floor of Landmark hotel

[Liuda]

Remember came across a ktv gal and she told me she is one of the singers from 夜吻. Heard from her business is bad and they only required to work 4 days per week. Their off days are on friday, saturday and sunday hahaha really jialat:p

Thank you, bro for the info. Another jialat place.

Just notice one place had folded up - 黄金地带 along Lavender St. Expected, this place was rundown and all cmi singers. Surprisingly 紫晶城 is against the trend getting more business while many going downhill after opening of 2 IR.

Cheers,

[tanterry]

Thank you, bro for the info. Another jialat place.

Just notice one place had folded up - 黄金地带 along Lavender St. Expected, this place was rundown and all cmi singers. Surprisingly 紫晶城 is against the trend getting more business while many going downhill after opening of 2 IR.

Cheers,

I remember forbidden city! They have 2 groups of regulars who are quite big hangers. quite a number of singers consistently got 1k flower during PPC. But singers there dun really can make it.

I didn't went there for more than a month lol. Maybe have new singers?

[K9696]

I remember forbidden city!
I didn't went there for more than a month lol. Maybe have new singers?

yes, one recent less than 2wks.. 86..quite fairlady-sweet girl.. DongBei..

[chenzong]

I have never been in the Singaporean HFJ scene, though I am a regular in the Shanghai scene. HFJ is considered more or less a sunset industry here - even though new singers kept coming in, it is not attracting many new patrons and regulars. I wonder if it is the same in Singapore.

[tanterry]

yes, one recent less than 2wks.. 86..quite fairlady-sweet girl.. DongBei..

Thanks! will re-visit soon :D

[tanterry]

I have never been in the Singaporean HFJ scene, though I am a regular in the Shanghai scene. HFJ is considered more or less a sunset industry here - even though new singers kept coming in, it is not attracting many new patrons and regulars. I wonder if it is the same in Singapore.

It turns from bad to worse for some joints as they tried to improve sales.

they would organise weekly show! Doing weekly show is fine but these singers are required to have table booked by customers. Or else they will be fined. Then see every week with rotating of singers, you will feel like seeing the same old show. The worst part is weekly smses or call lol

[myebook2008]

forbidden city! not a bad joint to play. singers good. only problem is the sound system, so-so, either not tuned properly, or really cheap staff. I also visited Club1 once, can not compare to FC. These days singers always have a TV in front to make their life easier, but make it more like KTV. someone asked the small joint near Amoy Street food centre, not suggest to go.
Bro Liuda, long time didn't go 188, seems it still doing well, know too many people there, rather avoid it now. Anyway singers are just like your money only, totally meaningless. So now only no choice hang little bit, anyway got many big hangers. yes, many singers they have to go some ktv to get extra cash for their living, if they are unlucky to work on a no-biz hfj. Most of them are not so healthy after a while, because they have to drink everyday, sing until very late, and very high until 5,6 am.

[myebook2008]

One more thing to share. I know a lot of friends went Amani, and I notice some of you just sing there. Most of the hfj now provide KaraOK services before the singers start singing session. You also can try 'clean' pub, a few opposite Eminet Plaza, beside the 7/11 shop, or pubs in China town. Do not stick to Amani only, change taste a bit lah. - enjoy.

[K9696]

Thanks! will re-visit soon :D

FYI.. she came with her "relative-sister" together in the FC - No. 69
no 69 has visited sin before in "HK palace"....

[MoralEpitome]

It turns from bad to worse for some joints as they tried to improve sales.

they would organise weekly show! Doing weekly show is fine but these singers are required to have table booked by customers. Or else they will be fined. Then see every week with rotating of singers, you will feel like seeing the same old show. The worst part is weekly smses or call lol

LOL...I won't be so stupid to give hp to singers anymore...really waste of time and play kc game with you... besides 5k a month on normal girls you get almost undevoted love from them already but to singers this is not enough....if you invest in girls with such high P/E ratios you are sure to get burned!...unless you got so much money you don't mind....however I admit some singers really have the S factor...up to you to intepret what the S stands for...and is worth paying the money...however if you look at the majority of singers they are not better than the normal gers....and those S ones are quickly taken by fast hand fast leg towkays already hahahah

[tanterry]

LOL...I won't be so stupid to give hp to singers anymore...really waste of time and play kc game with you... besides 5k a month on normal girls you get almost undevoted love from them already but to singers this is not enough....if you invest in girls with such high P/E ratios you are sure to get burned!...unless you got so much money you don't mind....however I admit some singers really have the S factor...up to you to intepret what the S stands for...and is worth paying the money...however if you look at the majority of singers they are not better than the normal gers....and those S ones are quickly taken by fast hand fast leg towkays already hahahah


Just like ktvs, hfjs also have high, mid and low range spendings. I came across a few not bad looking ones at ktv during hh and found they are singers. 50 flowerand hang 1 or 2 times would be enough in these low range types. Then want to bonk just neg offline

Still must get hp number if you want extras lol

[MoralEpitome]

Just like ktvs, hfjs also have high, mid and low range spendings. I came across a few not bad looking ones at ktv during hh and found they are singers. 50 flowerand hang 1 or 2 times would be enough in these low range types. Then want to bonk just neg offline

Still must get hp number if you want extras lol

True la...i know a few singers at those cmi joints...ask me for 2k a mth to be bf...but quality cannot even compare to regular girls ley...the worse part when I ask her to sing she can't sing for nuts!..anyway I did your 50 100 trick today and think she's abit pissed off with me hahahahahah....there are some new singers with a few not bad one at my usual joint...worth checking it out...

[horsebite]

anyone can offer some directional advice...?

where this HFJ by the name of 码头？

[tanterry]

True la...i know a few singers at those cmi joints...ask me for 2k a mth to be bf...but quality cannot even compare to regular girls ley...the worse part when I ask her to sing she can't sing for nuts!..anyway I did your 50 100 trick today and think she's abit pissed off with me hahahahahah....there are some new singers with a few not bad one at my usual joint...worth checking it out...

Yup 6 new singers! i was told the new batch's coming in when I was about to leave after hh. total strength increases to 16

[MoralEpitome]

Yup 6 new singers! i was told the new batch's coming in when I was about to leave after hh. total strength increases to 16

yeah this batch got 2 good ones....one I know a certain bro bybj's type...the other one also not bad....can't remember their numbers yet...hehehe....my singer tulan with me abit i think cos i hang other singer....but really competitive la...too many singers how to survive...so little customers

[Miyanaga]

There are more than 200 HFJ joints registered. Unbelievable.

[MoralEpitome]

There are more than 200 HFJ joints registered. Unbelievable.

must be good money....fren's fren recently just opened one... why not we all pool our money and open one....spend money on our own joint better rite hahahaha

[tanterry]

yeah this batch got 2 good ones....one I know a certain bro bybj's type...the other one also not bad....can't remember their numbers yet...hehehe....my singer tulan with me abit i think cos i hang other singer....but really competitive la...too many singers how to survive...so little customers

your friend definitely will fast hand fast leg if this one is good cos he will be free soon hehe

[MoralEpitome]

your friend definitely will fast hand fast leg if this one is good cos he will be free soon hehe

lol....i dunno how fast hang fast leg he is but I am sure he is around to make his move hahah.....anyway abit sianz leow....wan to retire from cmc like you... go somewhere peaceful without the stress of all your old girls looking for you...problem is...wherever I go...unless it's a new joint...I have girls!...recently went back to a old place...even my old time waitress also gone leow...but this old girl quite famous one saw me and ask me to sit....all the shit about us being old frens...so end up i said ok lor....but I noe she got bf one..and she left at 830 to meet the bf...i know cos i always see him at the carpark...machiam now i supporting gers to support gigolo leow....know anyway peaceful where i can watch world cup...sing a few songs...and no girls bother me one? hahahah

[Evofan97]

anyone can offer some directional advice...?

where this HFJ by the name of 码头？

the building next to west coast carmart....right at the end of the car park....more like a open concept type

[chenzong]

It turns from bad to worse for some joints as they tried to improve sales.

they would organise weekly show! Doing weekly show is fine but these singers are required to have table booked by customers. Or else they will be fined. Then see every week with rotating of singers, you will feel like seeing the same old show. The worst part is weekly smses or call lol

It is the same in Shanghai, actually. Every once in a while, they will have 强制定座, and the singers will start calling all their customers in desperation (or the managers will, as well). Perhaps this is an indication of the industry being a sunset one.

[tanterry]

It is the same in Shanghai, actually. Every once in a while, they will have 强制定座, and the singers will start calling all their customers in desperation (or the managers will, as well). Perhaps this is an indication of the industry being a sunset one.

Just too many, bro. as quoted, more than 200 HFJs!

[teraterm55]

well the owners are earning money from the singers. instead of paying them salary, the owners are squeezing the singers for the money.

therefore the owners are opening more and more, each singer they will squeeze them for a minimum S$2,500 a month. heard from a few singers form hau ching, hoomiko, club jiu and many others...the shops boss told them, no matter what, they will be deducted S$2,500 a month.

With that in mind, each shop can get a about 8 singers. thats about 16K a month for each shop open. the more the bosses open the more money they will get.

well wont be surprise if there are about 250 HFJ now.

oh ya... Pretty Star at carpenter street is reopening, new owner. not a bad place to watch football.. except sometimes you have old uncles singing badly there.

[jason47]

Not exactly that all club squeezing the singers for money...come down to all dollars & cents that owners invested in those HFJ,it may not even enuf to cover the rental.
Infact it's a win-win situations... Singers gets to make their monies,with an average of 70-80% of their monthly flowers..Owners gets abt 20-30% of that share.
As for smaller joints which seems difficult for singers to achieve their min quota den will the owners does a min deductions,as this sort of plan will motivates the singers to work harder & please all bros who patronise the HFJ...; )

As for the 250s HF joints...Singaporean just loves the "bubble tea" business plan.hee...hee.. Monkey sees...... monkies do.....!


just my 2cents worth!!

[prcsytlover]

lol....i dunno how fast hang fast leg he is but I am sure he is around to make his move hahah.....anyway abit sianz leow....wan to retire from cmc like you... go somewhere peaceful without the stress of all your old girls looking for you...problem is...wherever I go...unless it's a new joint...I have girls!...recently went back to a old place...even my old time waitress also gone leow...but this old girl quite famous one saw me and ask me to sit....all the shit about us being old frens...so end up i said ok lor....but I noe she got bf one..and she left at 830 to meet the bf...i know cos i always see him at the carpark...machiam now i supporting gers to support gigolo leow....know anyway peaceful where i can watch world cup...sing a few songs...and no girls bother me one? hahahah
Where else but home sweet home.

[chairman-mao]

any bros have been to this new hang flowers joint @ Tangling Shopping center located in B2??? Was told is the same boss as club jade and got 3-4 singers not bad looking.

[tanterry]

It is the same in Shanghai, actually. Every once in a while, they will have 强制定座, and the singers will start calling all their customers in desperation (or the managers will, as well). Perhaps this is an indication of the industry being a sunset one.

last night I was required to attend one 强制定座 But very bored so I only hanged 100 and left after the 10 pm wc game so she still had to be fined 300 lol she smsed she was humiliated cos she refused to go out with one customer who hanged a couple of ks during ppc

[MoralEpitome]

last night I was required to attend one 强制定座 But very bored so I only hanged 100 and left after the 10 pm wc game so she still had to be fined 300 lol she smsed she was humiliated cos she refused to go out with one customer who hanged a couple of ks during ppc

these singers very poor thing hor...i was talking to this singer...so sturborn don't want to entertain clients...dont wat to chu...how to earn money....if they dun wan to work for it...out of goodwill most hang them 50 100 only mah....unless they got hundred of such customers how to survive..

[chenzong]

last night I was required to attend one 强制定座 But very bored so I only hanged 100 and left after the 10 pm wc game so she still had to be fined 300 lol she smsed she was humiliated cos she refused to go out with one customer who hanged a couple of ks during ppc

I would normally advise such singers to simply quit. One simply cannot survive in this industry by being 清高. One singer once told me that she liked accompanying me because I do not have any 要求. I pointed out straight that customers like me do not pay her bills.

Tough world.

[chenzong]

these singers very poor thing hor...i was talking to this singer...so sturborn don't want to entertain clients...dont wat to chu...how to earn money....if they dun wan to work for it...out of goodwill most hang them 50 100 only mah....unless they got hundred of such customers how to survive..

Even getting 1-2 of such customers are going to be extremely rare.

[MoralEpitome]

Even getting 1-2 of such customers are going to be extremely rare.

yeah i agree....i spend 100 on normal girl they are quite happy...but doesn't help a singer much...and as you said if no special request why should i hang her 5k or more...

[tanterry]

I would normally advise such singers to simply quit. One simply cannot survive in this industry by being 清高. One singer once told me that she liked accompanying me because I do not have any 要求. I pointed out straight that customers like me do not pay her bills.

Tough world.

Ya dun think she can survive long. she was previously from a high end joint so bring along no go attitude to this mid level joint. after throw a few ks then rejected, some customers still give face, but others will be nasty.

[jacky chan]

nowaday all hfj buisiness veri quiet. Those ladies hv to get at least 6k or more each-month,if u are nt send back by the joint, u have to pay back.

[MoralEpitome]

nowaday all hfj buisiness veri quiet. Those ladies hv to get at least 6k or more each-month,if u are nt send back by the joint, u have to pay back.

yeah....was quoted 10k/mth for a BY arrangement today...damn funny....got so many criteria like must be younger than 40...take care of her...etc etc...when i ask her how many times sex u willing to give...she froze and could not answer....hahahaha.....

[K9696]

one conversation with one singer recently.. how it goes..

歌星: 你为什么这几天没来呢?
我: 我没有时间啊,所以不可能天天到啊.

歌星: 别人没事也可以天天到啊,来这里打牌.玩甩中啊!
我: 我都不玩这些的啊,你都知道.

歌星: 那你可以来看看我啊?
我: 可以啊,但是也不可能天天去啊,我又不是你的男朋友.

歌星: 随便你啦,你都不是来捧我的场的啊!
我: (addition one la..si pei dulan,, knn..) 我又不是挂大花者!家里有没有机器可以印钱哦...

All singers lately damn desperate yo..due to shortage of customers..:D

[chenzong]

It does make me wonder - why is hfj a sunset industry? I could only make some guesses...

1. Customers who are willing to dump the huge amount of money just to "feel good" are becoming more rare, perhaps due to the financial turmoil.

2. Customers of the age ground who go to hfjs (like me) are getting, well, older. The younger set prefers to go to ktvs or hcs/brothels.

3. Singers work much harder than ktv girls. Why work so hard when you might as well work at a ktv?

Any other guesses? I am based in Shanghai, so it may be different in Singapore.

[mjox09]

one conversation with one singer recently.. how it goes..


歌星: 随便你啦,你都不是来捧我的场的啊!
我: (addition one la..si pei dulan,, knn..) 我又不是挂大花者!家里有没有机器可以印钱哦...

All singers lately damn desperate yo..due to shortage of customers..:D


Bro..u very funny leh...hehehehehe...sorie if i offend u..bt the conversation reali make my day...hehehe...

[tanterry]

It does make me wonder - why is hfj a sunset industry? I could only make some guesses...

1. Customers who are willing to dump the huge amount of money just to "feel good" are becoming more rare, perhaps due to the financial turmoil.

2. Customers of the age ground who go to hfjs (like me) are getting, well, older. The younger set prefers to go to ktvs or hcs/brothels.

3. Singers work much harder than ktv girls. Why work so hard when you might as well work at a ktv?

Any other guesses? I am based in Shanghai, so it may be different in Singapore.


Here's my input on pt3

hfj is one way they can work legally in sg. This should be different from Shanghai.

so legal means rules and regulation. The rule is to clock in 7 days a week lol hence they HAVE to hard work

anyway that singer was lucky this time as she told me that customer had paid up

[no no]

any bros have been to this new hang flowers joint @ Tangling Shopping center located in B2???

any hang flower joint bros went to this place:confused:

[chenzong]

hfj is one way they can work legally in sg. This should be different from Shanghai.

Actually, it is the same. Singers at hfjs have employment passes issued by the Cultural Bureau (or at least their employers are supposed to get for them). "Remunerated Accompanying" 有偿陪侍 is illegal in China, according to 《关于开展加强娱乐服务场所管理严厉打击卖淫嫖娼赌博吸毒贩毒等社会丑恶现象专项行动的意见》 and 《营业性歌舞娱乐场所管理办法》(you have to read both documents together to understand why it is illegal).

But, of course, just because something is illegal in China (like pirated goods) does not mean it doesn't happen. The problem with China is not its legal system, but its legal enforcement system.

When you have been in China for 6 years, and go drinking and partying with businessmen and officials, you get to know the country quite a bit...

[Smeagol]

One of those nites after leaving office past 10pm but don't feel like going home. Needed a drink badly..... drove aimlessly and ended up at Jade. It's been a while since I've been active in flower joints. Thought nobody will recognise me anymore.

Step into jade.... 1st word from the waitress who atteneded to me was...."LONG TIME NO SEE AH!!!" huh..... where have I met this waitress before. Turn out she was a fromer nite hong kong waitress a year ago while I was still active there..... oh well so much for remaining low profile. Before I knew.... one singer sneak up from behind...... 阿文哥，是你吗？Turn out to be an ex Hunag Chao singer who was a close friend to my Singer GF back in 2008. Small world again...... back then I already fancy her. Tiertiary graduate with some sophitication. Can play 琵琶, got class type. are we fated to meet again??? huh huh

Anyway, didn't throw any big flowers... just $200 buck which was already the 2nd biggest flower for the night. Looks like Jade biz also not too good.

Half way through ppc, one chick slid her hand along my arm... WTF!!!??? took a closer look... wah lau eh... my regualr KTV girl in 2006. She's now a comestic sales girl... but pop into Jade to see a friend.

Goodness..... I long time never go night joint... step in only see so many familiar faces!!!! :confused:

[K9696]

One of those nites after leaving office past 10pm but don't feel like going home. Needed a drink badly..... drove aimlessly and ended up at Jade. It's been a while since I've been active in flower joints. Thought nobody will recognise me anymore.

Step into jade.... 1st word from the waitress who atteneded to me was...."LONG TIME NO SEE AH!!!" huh..... where have I met this waitress before. Turn out she was a fromer nite hong kong waitress a year ago while I was still active there..... oh well so much for remaining low profile. Before I knew.... one singer sneak up from behind...... 阿文哥，是你吗？Turn out to be an ex Hunag Chao singer who was a close friend to my Singer GF back in 2008. Small world again...... back then I already fancy her. Tiertiary graduate with some sophitication. Can play 琵琶, got class type. are we fated to meet again??? huh huh

Anyway, didn't throw any big flowers... just $200 buck which was already the 2nd biggest flower for the night. Looks like Jade biz also not too good.

Half way through ppc, one chick slid her hand along my arm... WTF!!!??? took a closer look... wah lau eh... my regualr KTV girl in 2006. She's now a comestic sales girl... but pop into Jade to see a friend.

Goodness..... I long time never go night joint... step in only see so many familiar faces!!!! :confused:

yes, Jade.. biz..is bad.. guess those big hanger already ran to other joints.
To them you are "Big Boss" so they can recognise your face...;)

[Cum_Luver]

Goodness..... I long time never go night joint... step in only see so many familiar faces!!!! :confused:

bro,
alan is asking,when free to meet up again.

[我回來了]

yes, Jade.. biz..is bad.. guess those big hanger already ran to other joints.
To them you are "Big Boss" so they can recognise your face...;)
Big Hangers buy singer time go casino to get better excitement

[CitizenDildo]

Opening one in Cuppage Soon.
will keep posted. :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

One of those nites after leaving office past 10pm but don't feel like going home. Needed a drink badly..... drove aimlessly and ended up at Jade. It's been a while since I've been active in flower joints. Thought nobody will recognise me anymore.

Step into jade.... 1st word from the waitress who atteneded to me was...."LONG TIME NO SEE AH!!!" huh..... where have I met this waitress before. Turn out she was a fromer nite hong kong waitress a year ago while I was still active there..... oh well so much for remaining low profile. Before I knew.... one singer sneak up from behind...... 阿文哥，是你吗？Turn out to be an ex Hunag Chao singer who was a close friend to my Singer GF back in 2008. Small world again...... back then I already fancy her. Tiertiary graduate with some sophitication. Can play 琵琶, got class type. are we fated to meet again??? huh huh

Anyway, didn't throw any big flowers... just $200 buck which was already the 2nd biggest flower for the night. Looks like Jade biz also not too good.

Half way through ppc, one chick slid her hand along my arm... WTF!!!??? took a closer look... wah lau eh... my regualr KTV girl in 2006. She's now a comestic sales girl... but pop into Jade to see a friend.

Goodness..... I long time never go night joint... step in only see so many familiar faces!!!! :confused:

Your presence lit up the whole place la bro.
That's Y everytime i see you, must wear sunglasses

[myebook2008]

your presence lit up the whole place la bro.
That's y everytime i see you, must wear sunglasses

花场盟主, 歌女头家, 名扬天下, 千古流芳. 佩服佩服.

[saytoomuch]

It does make me wonder - why is hfj a sunset industry? I could only make some guesses...

Any other guesses? I am based in Shanghai, so it may be different in Singapore.

The HFJ bosses and singers are still living in the 1970s. Now is 2010.
Look at their opening hours. They got it all wrong.
Some HFJs only open late and singers start to sing and entertain at 10pm.
The HFJs expect guests to stay till 3am.
Guests who stay till 3am may arrive home at 4am.
Not everyone is a super rich tycoon who does not need to work.
Not everyone is an illegal bookie who has never worked in his whole life.
Not everyone is a gangster who uses HFJ to launder $.
Not everyone wants to burn their whole next day trying to recover sleep from tonight's excesses.

Nowadays big timers find it more exciting to throw money in the two casinos.
Why bother to throw in HFJs.

The HFJs do not know how to catch the "after work" masses.
People leave office at 7pm. No HFJ is open. So they go to the pubs.
Silly HFJs miss out on all these customers.
Some who are married need to go pub early and be home by 10pm.

90% of the HFJ singers really cannot sing. And they know it too.
It can be suffering to hear some of them.

[chenzong]

The HFJ bosses and singers are still living in the 1970s. Now is 2010.

Some HFJs only open late and singers start to sing and entertain at 10pm.

It's the same here too. HFJs open about 2000h but the singing only starts about 2200h.

The HFJs expect guests to stay till 3am.
Guests who stay till 3am may arrive home at 4am.

0030h or latest 0100h that I've encountered here.

The HFJs do not know how to catch the "after work" masses.
People leave office at 7pm. No HFJ is open. So they go to the pubs.
Silly HFJs miss out on all these customers.
Some who are married need to go pub early and be home by 10pm.

Bingo! This is happening here too! People go to pubs and KTVs instead.

[XiBeiSong]

The HFJ bosses and singers are still living in the 1970s. Now is 2010.
Look at their opening hours. They got it all wrong.
Some HFJs only open late and singers start to sing and entertain at 10pm.
The HFJs expect guests to stay till 3am.
Guests who stay till 3am may arrive home at 4am.
Not everyone is a super rich tycoon who does not need to work.
Not everyone is an illegal bookie who has never worked in his whole life.
Not everyone is a gangster who uses HFJ to launder $.
Not everyone wants to burn their whole next day trying to recover sleep from tonight's excesses.

Nowadays big timers find it more exciting to throw money in the two casinos.
Why bother to throw in HFJs.

The HFJs do not know how to catch the "after work" masses.
People leave office at 7pm. No HFJ is open. So they go to the pubs.
Silly HFJs miss out on all these customers.
Some who are married need to go pub early and be home by 10pm.

90% of the HFJ singers really cannot sing. And they know it too.
It can be suffering to hear some of them.

Well said bro. There is one hfj open at 6pm n singing starts at 7pm. Its a small joint with reasonable beer n liqur price. Not many big hangers. Mostly retirees n working class pple. Although sometime can c hang 500 or 1k but is very rare. Business seem to be quite gd. At least got more crowd than jade n other places. Cheers.

[Tigerterry]

Bro saytoomuch may not be aware that HH has now a mass following and pseudo singers in HFJ either moonlight at popular KTV lounges in Havelock and
Peace Centre for their quick bucks before reporting for work by 830pm, Some of the more popular HH Lounges with HFJ joints have their "singers" (with permits) entertain their clients in KTV rooms anytime from HH to closing hours only reappearing for their short singing or PPC sessions. Cliemts can choose to hang flowers or tip them. Some singers dont even have to report for work daily as long as they pay a levy to the HFJ, something called MAI WEI (BUY PLACE). In this business a lot of creativeness and inventiveness with the think out of the box mentality is practiced. By allowing singers to have six months permits the HFJ is a far from sun-setting industry. The super rich, the bookies, the money laundering gangster will continue to pile their legal or ill gotten gains into those lucky and considered cream of the singers while the masses will continue to enjoy the not-so- creamy pseudo singers. A win-win situation for all.:D

[chenzong]

Well said bro. There is one hfj open at 6pm n singing starts at 7pm. Its a small joint with reasonable beer n liqur price. Not many big hangers. Mostly retirees n working class pple. Although sometime can c hang 500 or 1k but is very rare. Business seem to be quite gd. At least got more crowd than jade n other places. Cheers.

Cool! And where is that hfj?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

The other day, i was driving along GL land to go for dinner, clarify, real food hor, not chicken, drove thru a lane and wakaozzzzzzz, HFJ extended from canvas tent to the road, power!!!!!!!

[saytoomuch]

Well said bro. There is one hfj open at 6pm n singing starts at 7pm. Its a small joint with reasonable beer n liqur price. Not many big hangers. Mostly retirees n working class pple. Although sometime can c hang 500 or 1k but is very rare. Business seem to be quite gd. At least got more crowd than jade n other places. Cheers.

Must let us know where, so we can go.
Oops...don't tell me it is Hawaii. Hope not.

Also noticed Exclesior HFJ has a new name Shanghai Night or something like that.

[popee16]

Must let us know where, so we can go.
Oops...don't tell me it is Hawaii. Hope not.

Also noticed Exclesior HFJ has a new name Shanghai Night or something like that.

Ya, but drink very expensive, VSOP $280 and one mug of beer cost you S$15.00. No HH.

[owl888]

Apologies, may b a off topic. Saw Chinese Wanbao, it was reported a property agent(25yo) slash his singer gal(20 yo) and singer's bf(20yo). Becoz of this he was sentence to jail imprisonment.

It was reported that the guy after sending his singer gal home and later realise he left something with his singer gal and return back to her apartment. Then what he saw later made him boiled over. He saw his singer gal and her classmate talking and behaving intimately. He took out his cutter and slashed both of them causing them to be injured.

Dunno singer which HFJ leh? Oso, the property agent guy spend how much on her?

[saytoomuch]

Apologies, may b a off topic. Saw Chinese Wanbao, it was reported a property agent(25yo) slash his singer gal(20 yo) and singer's bf(20yo). Becoz of this he was sentence to jail imprisonment.

It was reported that the guy after sending his singer gal home and later realise he left something with his singer gal and return back to her apartment. Then what he saw later made him boiled over. He saw his singer gal and her classmate talking and behaving intimately. He took out his cutter and slashed both of them causing them to be injured.

Dunno singer which HFJ leh? Oso, the property agent guy spend how much on her?

no his wife what.
slash for what reason? ppty agt only is a worker.
he is still dreaming.
everyone knows China PRC singer are here looking for $$$$tycoon (translate many many Millions $) while keeping her own China PRC BF on the side.

[myebook2008]

no his wife what.
slash for what reason? ppty agt only is a worker.
he is still dreaming.
everyone knows China PRC singer are here looking for $$$$tycoon (translate many many Millions $) while keeping her own China PRC BF on the side.

Not worth lah, for hfj singer, most so-so lah. Take wrong medicine. Property agent earned too much these days, so 男人有钱不一定是好事. 老大人said so.

[Bally]

Must let us know where, so we can go.
Oops...don't tell me it is Hawaii. Hope not.

Also noticed Exclesior HFJ has a new name Shanghai Night or something like that.

Shanghai Night all old singer. Went there 3 weeks ago and thinking it was nice.

[Big Semens]

yes, Jade.. biz..is bad.. guess those big hanger already ran to other joints.
To them you are "Big Boss" so they can recognise your face...;)
Bro, you still active here ahhhh......:D

[saytoomuch]

The kopitiam below Peace Ctr stack of 7 KTVs is closed.
Maybe because of poor business?
So if u are thinking of getting a bite first before venturing upstairs, have to go elsewhere.

The Thai live band joint on the 3rd sty is not well patronised. Not many customers even on weekend.
Maybe it is a location thing. In OT and GM, they do quite well.

Lately, Dynasty has surprisingly few customers on a weekend. Maybe the impact of the two casinos draw away the regulars or maybe regulars lost their pants in World Cup football wagers, so no money to splash for a while.

[MoralEpitome]

The kopitiam below Peace Ctr stack of 7 KTVs is closed.
Maybe because of poor business?
So if u are thinking of getting a bite first before venturing upstairs, have to go elsewhere.

The Thai live band joint on the 3rd sty is not well patronised. Not many customers even on weekend.
Maybe it is a location thing. In OT and GM, they do quite well.

Lately, Dynasty has surprisingly few customers on a weekend. Maybe the impact of the two casinos draw away the regulars or maybe regulars lost their pants in World Cup football wagers, so no money to splash for a while.

dun tink it's bad biz just change of mgt for the kopitiam...but yeah suckz if u wan to eat before cheonging...

as for poor business...it's the same everywhere...too many joints fighting for the same customers....but that's good for us...easier to up your targets....

[owl888]

Qing Ge HFJ, in Geylang Lor 6 above the KTV buy 1 jug get 1 free on 19,20 July on their anniversary reported by the Wan Bao.

[MoralEpitome]

Qing Ge HFJ, in Geylang Lor 6 above the KTV buy 1 jug get 1 free on 19,20 July on their anniversary reported by the Wan Bao.

wow...even qing ge also getting involved in the hfj....must be good money...no wonder my fren's fren also open a hfj... maybe must open one if i can retire...

[snooker]

wow...even qing ge also getting involved in the hfj....must be good money...no wonder my fren's fren also open a hfj... maybe must open one if i can retire...

HFJ is a costless overhead business, u can open one without breaking a sweat:p

[MoralEpitome]

HFJ is a costless overhead business, u can open one without breaking a sweat:p

Let's open one....hang our own girls better than hang others rite...hahahah....we can QC by screwing them first...hahahah

[chenzong]

HFJ is a costless overhead business, u can open one without breaking a sweat:p

Where do you get this idea from? The joints I have been to in Shanghai are all bleeding from the overheads - venue rental, 少爷 salaries, 嘉宾 salaries (for those that can still afford them) and running costs (electricity and water). It's a crazy business!

[snooker]

Where do you get this idea from? The joints I have been to in Shanghai are all bleeding from the overheads - venue rental, 少爷 salaries, 嘉宾 salaries (for those that can still afford them) and running costs (electricity and water). It's a crazy business!

U treat me to a bot of brandy in Hfj or ktv, I'll let u in on the secret:D

[snooker]

Let's open one....hang our own girls better than hang others rite...hahahah....we can QC by screwing them first...hahahah

These PRC girls not like malaysian..no free QC hor:p

Hang own girls also have lot's of problem, she will start to act like lady boss n think she is 'big sister' when coming to work:mad:

[Loving_Dickhead]

U treat me to a bot of brandy in Hfj or ktv, I'll let u in on the secret:D

:D you so bad.... give a little more hint la....

1. Its called advertising revenue;
2. Its called sponsorship.

The rest you can guess liaoz.


:D

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[mansgp]

The kopitiam below Peace Ctr stack of 7 KTVs is closed.
Maybe because of poor business?
So if u are thinking of getting a bite first before venturing upstairs, have to go elsewhere.



Poor old Steven. His final fall from grace. Guess all his creditors had to say bye bye to their loans.

Where do you get this idea from? The joints I have been to in Shanghai are all bleeding from the overheads - venue rental, 少爷 salaries, 嘉宾 salaries (for those that can still afford them) and running costs (electricity and water). It's a crazy business!

U treat me to a bot of brandy in Hfj or ktv, I'll let u in on the secret:D

Modus operandi is different. It is no big secret but it takes some explanation to know how to make money (or at least not to lose money for that matter) despite local intense competition and shrinking patrons.

Maybe you should part with a bottle of brandy and get bro snooker to teach you the techniques.

[restar]

last 2 wk was at kampong baruh rd,saw tis HFJ call baby karaoke ,sound interesting went in for a look . infd by the gals tis place jus open.
went there a few time liao , cos most of the gals there very very very green , innocent n of cos young n pretty (easy to hook ) ( i dont like old bird cos they got horn)
any bro went there b4??????

[MaMister]

no his wife what.
slash for what reason? ppty agt only is a worker.
he is still dreaming.
everyone knows China PRC singer are here looking for $$$$tycoon (translate many many Millions $) while keeping her own China PRC BF on the side.

Well say bro... you hang flower for them.... one day you may just hang yourself....:D

[chenzong]

U treat me to a bot of brandy in Hfj or ktv, I'll let u in on the secret:D

That'd probably have to wait till Christmas, when I return to Singapore for my annual "pilgrimage"!

[chenzong]

Maybe you should part with a bottle of brandy and get bro snooker to teach you the techniques.

I am definitely more than ready to part with the brandy, but it'd have to wait till I return to Singapore at Christmas.

[snooker]

That'd probably have to wait till Christmas, when I return to Singapore for my annual "pilgrimage"!

Ok I'll wait for u to go HFJ before X"mas...but u may have found out about this little secret before that:D

[snooker]

yesterday decided to pop by Dong Men to see the singers there..

not many lookers..the quality of this batch not up to standard.

will looks at other joints when I return from Europe next month

[K9696]

Bro, you still active here ahhhh......:D

I am NO,active at all, so happen = one night bored and dropped by, saw the hall was so empty,... pathetic..

[MoralEpitome]

I am NO,active at all, so happen = one night bored and dropped by, saw the hall was so empty,... pathetic..

I don't know why...I just really dislike DM...anyway left mainly MLIFs....

[myebook2008]

I don't know why...I just really dislike DM...anyway left mainly MLIFs....

Most of the time, it's always the same group of customers for the same joints. They do cross visiting other joints, but most of the time they will stay in the same place. If they lost this group, then business will be bad, it can be caused by new batch of singers with lower quality, police raid possibility high, or the gals service problem. So many joints, not easy to attract and keep the customers.

[K9696]

I don't know why...I just really dislike DM...anyway left mainly MLIFs....

sorry.. what is DM? amd MLIFS?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

sorry.. what is DM? amd MLIFS?

I tink he meant DM as in Dong Men and
MLIF i tink her meant MILFs

[Big Semens]

I am NO,active at all, so happen = one night bored and dropped by, saw the hall was so empty,... pathetic..
I bored also won't happen to drop by Jade .... :D

[popee16]

Heard that nowadays AV also raid on HFJ, 40 singers are in trouble and Xian Zi operation license was gone, any brother can update?

[lky123]

hi bros
so any good joint to recommend these days.
seems like business is real bad and now in big joints, hang 200 already big big customer unlike b4 500/1000
now hfj is more economical than the usual ktv sessions.
been to the one along Bras Brash Complex. (so-so) only..

[taiwanmei]

Heard Singapore has very strict law, sure they will be closed one day, like what happened in GeyLang, otherwise Singapore will be come Sing and Poor Uncle. Sorry not to offend anyone, just think law is law in the end.
By the way, why so many singers allowed to have licenses to work, 99%, ok 75% sure not follow rules.

[MoralEpitome]

Heard that nowadays AV also raid on HFJ, 40 singers are in trouble and Xian Zi operation license was gone, any brother can update?

yeah...witness a raid before...they rounded up the singers and check for permit...basically if the singer is caught sitting and rubbahing the customer then cannot lor...correct me if i am wrong...

[XiBeiSong]

yeah...witness a raid before...they rounded up the singers and check for permit...basically if the singer is caught sitting and rubbahing the customer then cannot lor...correct me if i am wrong...


Under the work permit (performing artist) singer r nt allow to sit table, drink with the customers. They r only allowed to sing on stage. Many times authority will close one eye as long as the permit is valid n singers leave customers table upon spot check. Only those suay suay got caught sitting n drinking with customers after the lights is on will get into trouble. Also if singer caught working as hostess in places where their permit is not issued will be in trouble too. Cheers.

[MoralEpitome]

I guess so...btw....been to any hfj at Golden Mile? I met this girl by chance and she ask me to go there and look for her...basement she told me...

[XiBeiSong]

I guess so...btw....been to any hfj at Golden Mile? I met this girl by chance and she ask me to go there and look for her...basement she told me...

Yes been to ying he b4. The singer u met is it look a bit eurasian look? Skinny type?

Btw there is a joint tat start at 7pm which suits ur timing.. Let me know if u wan try. Cheers.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Ying He's owner is a kawan of mine, he's also a legendary flower king.
Will be visiting this joint on tues

[yandaosg]

there is tis pretty singer by the name of xiao ying, i think. at hotel royale HFJ. pretty & big boobs but sing terribly:rolleyes:
the best abt tis place that most of the seniors knw, that u will see alot of sexy viets walking in & out of the rooms. so if u see an ugly singer but has a good voice, at least there are some viet candy to look at:p

[kaninabe]

Ying He's owner is a kawan of mine, he's also a legendary flower king.
Will be visiting this joint on tues
Bro, please advise where is YH. What kind of standard, ie high, mid or low ? Thanks

[MoralEpitome]

Yes been to ying he b4. The singer u met is it look a bit eurasian look? Skinny type?

Btw there is a joint tat start at 7pm which suits ur timing.. Let me know if u wan try. Cheers.

can pm me the joint? can look see look see...

[MoralEpitome]

Ying He's owner is a kawan of mine, he's also a legendary flower king.
Will be visiting this joint on tues

Wow...no wonder...heard the standard of the singers there are not bad...

[lky123]

Wow
the economy is really booming.
Last night, there was a China Man @ Lido Palace who hung $350K plus for a singer. Really dunno who is the lucky one/ones

[warbird]

Wow
the economy is really booming.
Last night, there was a China Man @ Lido Palace who hung $350K plus for a singer. Really dunno who is the lucky one/ones

Hi Bro lky123,

Good morning!

Did u actually witness the event?

Many high-ranking PRC gahmen officials r loaded. I heard they bring $SGD10M or more in cash when they travel overseas.

I did a ST w/ a TAM gal of my type 2 wks ago. After the FJ, I paid $500 as agreed. I refused to tip her n she said all u SIN men r misers.

She then confided that she had not made much after working here 2 months (she was to return to PRC the next day) n a fellow PRC man saved her day a wk ago. He n his entourage of several subordinates brought 15 gals to one of the casinos. After dinner, she n 2 other gals were asked to stay behind for a few hrs to watch him gamble n she was tipped $SGD 7K. The guy didn't even touch her. He spoke w/ a Beijing accent n must be an important official as he gambled w/ millions, according to this hoe.

Let's hv an outing again, ya?

Cheers!

Bro WB

[lky123]

hi bro wb
i did not witness, but the cashier @ lido palace told me about this.
Wow, the china man paid abt 365+K on one swipe.
one hell of a rich fella

can we can go HH again on thur?

[Loving_Dickhead]

hi bro wb
i did not witness, but the cashier @ lido palace told me about this.
Wow, the china man paid abt 365+K on one swipe.
one hell of a rich fella

can we can go HH again on thur?

Hi bro,

The more experienced HFJs cheongsters will advice against listening to in-waiting staff, cashiers or mummies unless you can trust that the source is very reputable. Often, HFJ hangers/folks get their details from fellow cheongsters or singer[S] themselves. Do not just trust a single source or a single singer, spread your love and you will get your intel.

Cheers,
LDH :D


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[MoralEpitome]

Hi Bro lky123,

Good morning!

Did u actually witness the event?

Many high-ranking PRC gahmen officials r loaded. I heard they bring $SGD10M or more in cash when they travel overseas.

I did a ST w/ a TAM gal of my type 2 wks ago. After the FJ, I paid $500 as agreed. I refused to tip her n she said all u SIN men r misers.

She then confided that she had not made much after working here 2 months (she was to return to PRC the next day) n a fellow PRC man saved her day a wk ago. He n his entourage of several subordinates brought 15 gals to one of the casinos. After dinner, she n 2 other gals were asked to stay behind for a few hrs to watch him gamble n she was tipped $SGD 7K. The guy didn't even touch her. He spoke w/ a Beijing accent n must be an important official as he gambled w/ millions, according to this hoe.

Let's hv an outing again, ya?

Cheers!

Bro WB

I don't see what's wrong with paying her $500 if it's for ST...take it as $150 booking fee and $350 for the bonking...it's high end market rate alreadi....screw these girls who ask for more la...if she think that prc men so great why come to Singapore?...but in prc...the rich are very rich and the poor are very poor...it's a big divide...as a whole, singaporeans are better off but most are not that rich...today I also "booked" my girl for HH at Hotel and she never even ask for money...I just find that it really spoils the mood if you want to negotiate for money... and I am really quite lucky....she really had not gone out with any other men in the past 2 mths in Singapore as she is really quite inexperience in sex...hahah....but then again so am i....anyway I put $350 in her bag...am I a miser?

And apologizes to bro ldh and bybj as I really can't make it for SH la...I wanted to go to say hi and leave at 930 if I could go for hh yesterday but yesterday could not even make it for hh...

[kaninabe]

hi bro wb
i did not witness, but the cashier @ lido palace told me about this.
Wow, the china man paid abt 365+K on one swipe.
one hell of a rich fella

can we can go HH again on thur?
Credit card only has credit limit twice the monthly salary .... this guy must be power

[warbird]

I don't see what's wrong with paying her $500 if it's for ST...take it as $150 booking fee and $350 for the bonking...it's high end market rate alreadi.......but in prc...the rich are very rich and the poor are very poor...it's a big divide...as a whole, singaporeans are better off but most are not that rich...today I also "booked" my girl for HH at Hotel and she never even ask for money...I just find that it really spoils the mood if you want to negotiate for money... and I am really quite lucky....she really had not gone out with any other men in the past 2 mths in Singapore as she is really quite inexperience in sex...hahah....but then again so am i....anyway I put $350 in her bag...am I a miser?

And apologizes to bro ldh and bybj as I really can't make it for SH la...I wanted to go to say hi and leave at 930 if I could go for hh yesterday but yesterday could not even make it for hh...

I paid her $500 for ST in the afternoon, no booking fee. The going rate for ST for most TAM gals is only $200 to 300. When I spotted this tall n pretty gal, mummy K whispered boleh, but expensive at $500. I said OK as she had a very sexy n proportionate body. She would hv been very good BY material if she didn't do ST. I met her the next day, her last day in SIN. She is trying to return on a student visa!

No, you're not a miser. However, it's always prudent to agree on the "damage" before taking a KTV gal to the hotel for ST...

BTW, if SH is inconvenient for u, how did u get to know so many singers??

Cheers!

Bro WB

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

.....but then again so am i....anyway I put $350 in her bag...am I a miser? ...

Wa Bro ME..don't say yourself like that leh.....You know lots of singers and chio PB babes...Must be someone high up the ladder.. :D

[MoralEpitome]

I paid her $500 for ST in the afternoon, no booking fee. The going rate for ST for most TAM gals is only $200 to 300. When I spotted this tall n pretty gal, mummy K whispered boleh, but expensive at $500. I said OK as she had a very sexy n proportionate body. She would hv been very good BY material if she didn't do ST. I met her the next day, her last day in SIN. She is trying to return on a student visa!

No, you're not a miser. However, it's always prudent to agree on the "damage" before taking a KTV gal to the hotel for ST...

BTW, if SH is inconvenient for u, how did u get to know so many singers??

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro WB...many singers can't survive on flowers alone...many of them work part time during HH...except for those good ones BY by Chairman Austin and Prince LDH...hahahahah.....but I stay off singers already because simply don't have the firepower of the two esteem bros above....they will jio me go at night to hang flowers for them which don't suit my timing...recently I met this singer from Ying He at HH...really good looker but straight away call me to go and support her etc etc...I made the mistake of letting her know my hp no...but anyway I rejected her kind offer leow and now she doesn't bother me....nowadays I don't do ST much as I prefer some gf feeling....so this latest squeeze although not as pretty as some of my other girls does give me this gf feeling so probably will take care of her school fees and rental for a while....what I like is that she is not that greedy because she understands that if she wants more she have to give more...

[MoralEpitome]

Credit card only has credit limit twice the monthly salary .... this guy must be power

Not necessarily....once you hit a certain AUM...banks can give you a credit limit up to $200K....even if it exceeds the 4 times maximum governed by Act in Singapore...

[warbird]

Bro WB...many singers can't survive on flowers alone...many of them work part time during HH...except for those good ones BY by Chairman Austin and Prince LDH...hahahahah.....but I stay off singers already because simply don't have the firepower of the two esteem bros above....they will jio me go at night to hang flowers for them which don't suit my timing...recently I met this singer from Ying He at HH...really good looker but straight away call me to go and support her etc etc...I made the mistake of letting her know my hp no...but anyway I rejected her kind offer leow and now she doesn't bother me....nowadays I don't do ST much as I prefer some gf feeling......

Hi Bro ME,

I dun know anyone else who has the firepower AND mastery of mind game as the 2 esteemed bros.

You mean singers also sit tables during HH? I didn't know that. A really good looker at Ying He during HH? Where is Ying He? If she is 18-25, relatively tall w/ proportionate figure n relatively slim arms n legs, I like to meet her, since u hv lost interest in her. I wonder if u could PM her HP to me. Pls dun take offense as I'm very direct, blunt n brutally honest. I'll call her n tell her I want to book her for HH. If she is my type, I'll book her for the whole session. If u r uncomfortable giving her HP no, just give me her name or assigned no. Ths bro!!

A very good looker is very hard to find in SIN n I leave no stone unturned in searching for one...if she is not my type, no problem bcos one man's meat is another man's poison.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[lky123]

Ying He is @ golden mile basement 1.
quite a nice joint as the boss personally picks his singers.
all are tall and slim s during their ppc, its a nice sight.

went to dc last night, biz not bad. had about 5-7 1K crown.. usual suspects.
i was so surprised that the singer cut her hair so-so short and still managed to hook so many big customers. she mai chang immed after ppc.
her shou duan sure super duper steady....

anyway, any bros out here wanna go hfj, we can go together but me only small small fry out here......

[MoralEpitome]

Hi Bro ME,

I dun know anyone else who has the firepower AND mastery of mind game as the 2 esteemed bros.

You mean singers also sit tables during HH? I didn't know that. A really good looker at Ying He during HH? Where is Ying He? If she is 18-25, relatively tall w/ proportionate figure n relatively slim arms n legs, I like to meet her, since u hv lost interest in her. I wonder if u could PM her HP to me. Pls dun take offense as I'm very direct, blunt n brutally honest. I'll call her n tell her I want to book her for HH. If she is my type, I'll book her for the whole session. If u r uncomfortable giving her HP no, just give me her name or assigned no. Ths bro!!

A very good looker is very hard to find in SIN n I leave no stone unturned in searching for one...if she is not my type, no problem bcos one man's meat is another man's poison.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro wb, pm u her contact later at night after my meeting, i think she's more of a syt, nice complexion with a balanced figure, she's 25, not bad but according to her she's average only at@her joint, chairman knows the boss of ying he and probably can intro them to you

[MoralEpitome]

Wa Bro ME..don't say yourself like that leh.....You know lots of singers and chio PB babes...Must be someone high up the ladder.. :D

hehe, i am just a small fry having some fun during hh hours la, not like you know so many chio pbs hahaha

[roamersg]

A singer friend (actually not my ex) is thinking of returning and was asking me which mid-end joints might be ok, even if not great

My understanding is that places doing the best right now in terms of flowers are: DC, Lido, Cleopatra, LV, Macao. (She did not want to go to these places though)
Huang Chao seems really down from old days, but still gets some days with good flowers. From what you folks say about CMC, maybe in this category, it's predecessor was I think
HK Palace I have not been to in a while, they used to have some good nights, but before heard that they have too many singers and so many cannot make their targets

Others? Baidu?

Thx in advance for any ideas

[tanterry]

A singer friend (actually not my ex) is thinking of returning and was asking me which mid-end joints might be ok, even if not great

My understanding is that places doing the best right now in terms of flowers are: DC, Lido, Cleopatra, LV, Macao. (She did not want to go to these places though)
Huang Chao seems really down from old days, but still gets some days with good flowers. From what you folks say about CMC, maybe in this category, it's predecessor was I think
HK Palace I have not been to in a while, they used to have some good nights, but before heard that they have too many singers and so many cannot make their targets

Others? Baidu?

Thx in advance for any ideas

have seen pretty ones but their flowers are so so only. While some are so so only, but flowers are big. Hence it really depends on what she's willing to do lol

mid joints are FC, 188, DM and jade. They also have bad nights also. club jade seems undergoes resurgent leh

[roamersg]

have seen pretty ones but their flowers are so so only. While some are so so only, but flowers are big. Hence it really depends on what she's willing to do lol

mid joints are FC, 188, DM and jade. They also have bad nights also. club jade seems undergoes resurgent leh

Thanks Bro for suggestions. Yes, I can't understand why some get such big flowers. At TAM or LV there are some gals who are very popular, you must book, and each of them I can see immediately why. But I have seen singers at top joints who are BY'd and I just can't understand.

While HC is much weaker than before, seems still better than 188 and DM, I know singers from both of those places who went elsewhere

Where and what is FC?

[MoralEpitome]

Thanks Bro for suggestions. Yes, I can't understand why some get such big flowers. At TAM or LV there are some gals who are very popular, you must book, and each of them I can see immediately why. But I have seen singers at top joints who are BY'd and I just can't understand.

While HC is much weaker than before, seems still better than 188 and DM, I know singers from both of those places who went elsewhere

Where and what is FC?

One man's meat is another man's poison la...qing ren yan li chu xi si

[tanterry]

Thanks Bro for suggestions. Yes, I can't understand why some get such big flowers. At TAM or LV there are some gals who are very popular, you must book, and each of them I can see immediately why. But I have seen singers at top joints who are BY'd and I just can't understand.

While HC is much weaker than before, seems still better than 188 and DM, I know singers from both of those places who went elsewhere

Where and what is FC?

Yes. HC is still better than 188 and DM

FC is forbidden city. It is in lavendar. A number of recycled singers are there and still doing quite well

[warbird]

Ying He is @ golden mile basement 1.
quite a nice joint as the boss personally picks his singers.
all are tall and slim s during their ppc, its a nice sight.

went to dc last night, biz not bad. had about 5-7 1K crown.. usual suspects.
i was so surprised that the singer cut her hair so-so short and still managed to hook so many big customers. she mai chang immed after ppc.
her shou duan sure super duper steady....

anyway, any bros out here wanna go hfj, we can go together but me only small small fry out here......

Hi Bro lky123,

Ths for the info. All r tall n slim? I'll go if they r also young n pretty, hehe. They sit tables during HH too, right?

See u.

Bro wb, pm u her contact later at night after my meeting, i think she's more of a syt, nice complexion with a balanced figure, she's 25, not bad but according to her she's average only at@her joint, chairman knows the boss of ying he and probably can intro them to you

Hi Bro ME,

Ths for her ctc.

She may be my type, although I prefer younger gals. Worth taking a look.

Cheers!

[Loving_Dickhead]

Ying He is @ golden mile basement 1.
quite a nice joint as the boss personally picks his singers.
all are tall and slim s during their ppc, its a nice sight.

went to dc last night, biz not bad. had about 5-7 1K crown.. usual suspects.
i was so surprised that the singer cut her hair so-so short and still managed to hook so many big customers. she mai chang immed after ppc.
her shou duan sure super duper steady....

anyway, any bros out here wanna go hfj, we can go together but me only small small fry out here......

Don't say who small fry or big fry or medium fries... that one got to ask MacDonalds. Hee Hee Hee.

For our group of cheongsters, we do not care who can spend or cannot - we all always spend within our means. :D

I know who is that short short hair singer... :)

Anyway, think we should be making a visit to Ying He soon.



Regards,
LDH :p


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[lky123]

Ying He from this fri to next tue 5 nites doing their zhou nian qing.
the singers there ask me help ding tai.
i told them i not free cos i dont wan to be tied down... currently, i am happy with the one i have liao.
i will skip this joint until perhaps next thur/fri.
btw i went down last night. had 4-5 new singers.. cmi

[shanshen]

Don't say who small fry or big fry or medium fries... that one got to ask MacDonalds. Hee Hee Hee.

For our group of cheongsters, we do not care who can spend or cannot - we all always spend within our means. :D

I know who is that short short hair singer... :)

Anyway, think we should be making a visit to Ying He soon.



Regards,
LDH :p


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Bro..me also small timer. .total damages so far during the active period only aro $10k nia; but managed to reel in 4 singing fishes.
the biggest hook throw is size 1k:D

[roamersg]

FC is forbidden city. It is in lavendar. A number of recycled singers are there and still doing quite well

Thanks Bro, forgot about that place, replaced a nice mid-level KTV joint with a few singers. Was there a long time ago, will check it out again. Sounds like it's a bit like 188, has lots of singers who come back to their bf's

[restar]

most of the polular hfj will introduce event like girl nite or special event for gals ,then the gals will call us up to support her ,honestly small fry like me quite turn off (cos cant afford mah) by this so call 'special event nite'. cos when reach there u can c ppl hang flower like water...still prefer new small joint ,cos not so stress to me ...cos me n our fren went there hang abit flower they all treat us like king (ha ha ha ) i m not promoting tis joint (earlier i mention baby karaoke at kampong bahru) .jus wanna to share with u bro tis good joint ..........why i write tis is becos earlier i went to those 'big popular joint' we hang like 50-100 flower the gal seem like no hiu u ,some dont even cum n 'tks flower'we quite TL.so we left n go to our favourite baby karaoke ..tis place their concept very simple ,gals sing song u hang ,no such thing as 'special event or gals nite '.u wonder y i know tis cos i went there every now n then ,why must i complete with those big hanger in those big joint, me n my fren went there hang abit here n there ,and all those gals there treat us like 'king'some more all the gals there all very sweet n beautiful n innocent ........had a wonderful nite there ...................................cheers cheers cheers bottom ups bro ha ha ha

[MoralEpitome]

most of the polular hfj will introduce event like girl nite or special event for gals ,then the gals will call us up to support her ,honestly small fry like me quite turn off (cos cant afford mah) by this so call 'special event nite'. cos when reach there u can c ppl hang flower like water...still prefer new small joint ,cos not so stress to me ...cos me n our fren went there hang abit flower they all treat us like king (ha ha ha ) i m not promoting tis joint (earlier i mention baby karaoke at kampong bahru) .jus wanna to share with u bro tis good joint ..........why i write tis is becos earlier i went to those 'big popular joint' we hang like 50-100 flower the gal seem like no hiu u ,some dont even cum n 'tks flower'we quite TL.so we left n go to our favourite baby karaoke ..tis place their concept very simple ,gals sing song u hang ,no such thing as 'special event or gals nite '.u wonder y i know tis cos i went there every now n then ,why must i complete with those big hanger in those big joint, me n my fren went there hang abit here n there ,and all those gals there treat us like 'king'some more all the gals there all very sweet n beautiful n innocent ........had a wonderful nite there ...................................cheers cheers cheers bottom ups bro ha ha ha

share with us where is this baby karaoke place you are talking about la...more variety for all the bros..

[popee16]

most of the polular hfj will introduce event like girl nite or special event for gals ,then the gals will call us up to support her ,honestly small fry like me quite turn off (cos cant afford mah) by this so call 'special event nite'. cos when reach there u can c ppl hang flower like water...still prefer new small joint ,cos not so stress to me ...cos me n our fren went there hang abit flower they all treat us like king (ha ha ha ) i m not promoting tis joint (earlier i mention baby karaoke at kampong bahru) .jus wanna to share with u bro tis good joint ..........why i write tis is becos earlier i went to those 'big popular joint' we hang like 50-100 flower the gal seem like no hiu u ,some dont even cum n 'tks flower'we quite TL.so we left n go to our favourite baby karaoke ..tis place their concept very simple ,gals sing song u hang ,no such thing as 'special event or gals nite '.u wonder y i know tis cos i went there every now n then ,why must i complete with those big hanger in those big joint, me n my fren went there hang abit here n there ,and all those gals there treat us like 'king'some more all the gals there all very sweet n beautiful n innocent ........had a wonderful nite there ...................................cheers cheers cheers bottom ups bro ha ha ha

Bro,
Whick part of Kampong Baru? mostly are PUB can't see any KTV.

[teongking]

share with us where is this baby karaoke place you are talking about la...more variety for all the bros..

It is along Kampong Baru, that stretch with a row of night joints.

Being there three weeks ago being played out by one bro here stating that there are many SYT there. Singers I think only around 10, all CANNNOT make it.

One Jur is around $30 if I am not wrong, and must be with a plate fruit of fruits that costs $15.

[myebook2008]

..along Kampong Baru...Singers I think only around 10, all CANNNOT make it...

Correct, so-so looking and even so-so singing. If really need to say something, a new place, so the air is still fresh, and the renovation is not bad. Hope they can get some good quality singers.

[myebook2008]

...cos when reach there u can c ppl hang flower like water...
I also wondering why there are people hang like this. Like play magic, could the audience be their own people. Internal people try to make the show like direct sales seminar.
Being blind for 2 years, luckily the damage is still acceptable. Now I can not think about any good reason to throw 'flower' money. Do not think I will be totally different, I visti KTV, still pay normal fee to these girls.

[lky123]

I learnt a very valuable lesson last nite.
I was @ my regular hangout. (those bros who cheonged with me will know where it is)
I got to know someone who consistently come to support her singer daily without fail. $200-300 daily.
During her show, he hung abt $5-6K
4 days after her show, her real boyfriend turned up.
that guy was made a carrot-head as the singer's face and body language showed all that she dumped the carrot-head for her bf.
this shows that HFJ is a real dark dark world as I tot that since the guy was there daily to monitor and support, she should not have a chance for another fling. Sad to say, nothing is certain and the guy was so pissed off and walk away after the ppc.
this shows that all prc singers are full of tricks. be careful whilst cheonging......... Dont get cheated........

[MoralEpitome]

I learnt a very valuable lesson last nite.
I was @ my regular hangout. (those bros who cheonged with me will know where it is)
I got to know someone who consistently come to support her singer daily without fail. $200-300 daily.
During her show, he hung abt $5-6K
4 days after her show, her real boyfriend turned up.
that guy was made a carrot-head as the singer's face and body language showed all that she dumped the carrot-head for her bf.
this shows that HFJ is a real dark dark world as I tot that since the guy was there daily to monitor and support, she should not have a chance for another fling. Sad to say, nothing is certain and the guy was so pissed off and walk away after the ppc.
this shows that all prc singers are full of tricks. be careful whilst cheonging......... Dont get cheated........

yeah these singers are tricky...I also wasted a few k before...but I heard even worse stories...for example how this guy is made bankrupted to support his singer... I also seen some people obviously not that rich trying to hook singers...it's a waste of time....these singers look at money as they have their target to meet...since I know I am a poor man I have stayed off singers ever since....my first interaction with a singer a few years back is can you buy me a iphone...recently is can you buy me a rolex watch...now my reply to them is can you let me fuck first then I buy...all will sure run away...hahahahaha

[horsebite]

I learnt a very valuable lesson last nite.
I was @ my regular hangout. (those bros who cheonged with me will know where it is)
I got to know someone who consistently come to support her singer daily without fail. $200-300 daily.
During her show, he hung abt $5-6K
4 days after her show, her real boyfriend turned up.
that guy was made a carrot-head as the singer's face and body language showed all that she dumped the carrot-head for her bf.
this shows that HFJ is a real dark dark world as I tot that since the guy was there daily to monitor and support, she should not have a chance for another fling. Sad to say, nothing is certain and the guy was so pissed off and walk away after the ppc.
this shows that all prc singers are full of tricks. be careful whilst cheonging......... Dont get cheated........

While i agreed with you on most things but we must all be responsible enough to know we all walk into a flower shop with our eyes wide open and that judgment is made by us and us alone. its two sides of a coin, while we hear men being cheated by Singers . likewise singers are being cheated by men

[~~Fresh~~]

am amazed that those singers can raked in more then 10 grand a month just by singing ! Impressed !

[craig ong]

visited a few hang flower and I must say Cleopatra flower power very high.
$300-$500 is very very common.

[itomichi]

I learnt a very valuable lesson last nite.
I was @ my regular hangout. (those bros who cheonged with me will know where it is)
I got to know someone who consistently come to support her singer daily without fail. $200-300 daily.
During her show, he hung abt $5-6K
4 days after her show, her real boyfriend turned up.
that guy was made a carrot-head as the singer's face and body language showed all that she dumped the carrot-head for her bf.
this shows that HFJ is a real dark dark world as I tot that since the guy was there daily to monitor and support, she should not have a chance for another fling. Sad to say, nothing is certain and the guy was so pissed off and walk away after the ppc.
this shows that all prc singers are full of tricks. be careful whilst cheonging......... Dont get cheated........

Haha, you see, you observe, then you learn.

carrots good for health lah!!

[Chengdu dog]

I learnt a very valuable lesson last nite.
I was @ my regular hangout. (those bros who cheonged with me will know where it is)
I got to know someone who consistently come to support her singer daily without fail. $200-300 daily.
During her show, he hung abt $5-6K
4 days after her show, her real boyfriend turned up.
that guy was made a carrot-head as the singer's face and body language showed all that she dumped the carrot-head for her bf.
this shows that HFJ is a real dark dark world as I tot that since the guy was there daily to monitor and support, she should not have a chance for another fling. Sad to say, nothing is certain and the guy was so pissed off and walk away after the ppc.
this shows that all prc singers are full of tricks. be careful whilst cheonging......... Dont get cheated........

Maybe James Tan can shed some light here :D

James Tan is an expert in cheating :rolleyes:

[saytoomuch]

I learnt a very valuable lesson last nite.
I was @ my regular hangout. (those bros who cheonged with me will know where it is)
I got to know someone who consistently come to support her singer daily without fail. $200-300 daily.
During her show, he hung abt $5-6K
4 days after her show, her real boyfriend turned up.
that guy was made a carrot-head as the singer's face and body language showed all that she dumped the carrot-head for her bf.
this shows that HFJ is a real dark dark world as I tot that since the guy was there daily to monitor and support, she should not have a chance for another fling. Sad to say, nothing is certain and the guy was so pissed off and walk away after the ppc.
this shows that all prc singers are full of tricks. be careful whilst cheonging......... Dont get cheated........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAyDmJvjxbg&feature=related

[owl888]

So sad to see our bros putting his feelings into singer.....best advice is to treat WL in HFJ as mainly transactional.

As common known, WL wants your money, bros wanna her body :)

Share this song with bros, enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2amt3Qfvug

欢子 - 为什么你要伤害一个爱你的人

[MichaelHui]

I don't see what's wrong with paying her $500 if it's for ST...take it as $150 booking fee and $350 for the bonking...it's high end market rate alreadi....screw these girls who ask for more la...if she think that prc men so great why come to Singapore?...but in prc...the rich are very rich and the poor are very poor...it's a big divide...as a whole, singaporeans are better off but most are not that rich...today I also "booked" my girl for HH at Hotel and she never even ask for money...I just find that it really spoils the mood if you want to negotiate for money... and I am really quite lucky....she really had not gone out with any other men in the past 2 mths in Singapore as she is really quite inexperience in sex...hahah....but then again so am i....anyway I put $350 in her bag...am I a miser?

.
Very well said

[MoralEpitome]

To quote the king of singers BY(not me hor)...if you treat them as bought meat, you will not be KCed by them....make sure if you hang heavily for them...they better treat you well and let you fuck passionately.... but I see many brothers looking for love thinking that they will love you back.... this is highly unlikely... although I had seen some rare cases when it developed into real love...

[Miyanaga]

visited a few hang flower and I must say Cleopatra flower power very high.
$300-$500 is very very common.
Hang $100 kanna laugh ....

[restar]

some bro pm me ask me where n how is this place n how old is the gals ,well baby karaoke is at kampong bahru opp SGH , most of the gals i sit with is abt 20-25 ,as i said again why i like there is becos the gals there are green n not greedy ,hang 50-100 they very happy liao
any way tks to the bro here at tis thread who ups my pts...


cheers

[myebook2008]

So sad to see our bros putting his feelings into singer.....best advice is to treat WL in HFJ as mainly transactional.
As common known, WL wants your money, bros wanna her body :)
Share this song with bros, enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2amt3Qfvug
欢子 - 为什么你要伤害一个爱你的人
Not so agree about this. There is nothing wrong to have some basic standard for singers, for your ears at least. Also, nothing wrong to ask for some good hfj design and renovation, for your eyes. Purely transactional, rather go to health centres, most of them are q there, you easily find 20+ ones, and most from sg/my, not prc.

[taiwanmei]

...most from sg/my, not prc.
wow, wait for some update on this. sg/my, will it be very high cost ?

[K9696]

To quote the king of singers BY(not me hor)...if you treat them as bought meat, you will not be KCed by them....make sure if you hang heavily for them...they better treat you well and let you fuck passionately.... but I see many brothers looking for love thinking that they will love you back.... this is highly unlikely... although I had seen some rare cases when it developed into real love...

To find love in the singing joints,, hahah.. must be crazy...
Their time is limited to 6mths, they paid so much to come here, plus the joints - Red tapes,,etc.. i think they will left with peanuts in the pockets unless they have big supporters, i know some of them do..
but if you just feel good of hanging big flower to them.. they will reciprocrate to you to treating you like "Big Boss", >> this voice down to whether is it worth it?;)

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

To find love in the singing joints,, hahah.. must be crazy........>> this voice down to whether is it worth it?;)

I agree 100% with what you said.

I would like to share in this thread an epic advice from Bro DO_YOU_BJ:

Make them prove their worth every penny before giving a single penny. If they qualify, give them your penis, then a penny!

Cheers! :)

[MoralEpitome]

To find love in the singing joints,, hahah.. must be crazy...
Their time is limited to 6mths, they paid so much to come here, plus the joints - Red tapes,,etc.. i think they will left with peanuts in the pockets unless they have big supporters, i know some of them do..
but if you just feel good of hanging big flower to them.. they will reciprocrate to you to treating you like "Big Boss", >> this voice down to whether is it worth it?;)

Yup...it's the high you get when you hang the flower la...and how they fawn over you if you are a big flower hanger...plus if you have some competitors....who hopefully will not hang as much as you...and playing the strategies right...if you competitor hang $100 then you hang $200...he hang $200 then you hang $500....can be quite fun...then after a while he will look at you and wonder who should make the next move...hahahah...but it's just leow lui....better to take the $500 and do a overnight with a chio meimei you like la...anyway to each his own...happy can leow!

[urgg]

Last time alwaz frequent Thai HFJ.. dun say hang flower, juz pay LD oso buay tahan liao. In the end, got nuttink oso.. last mth went to winsor taiwan HFJ. Same shit.. the girls dun even wanna come to my table maybe bcoz my table oli got 1 tower of beer(98.00). Why do pple still wanna go?

[MoralEpitome]

Last time alwaz frequent Thai HFJ.. dun say hang flower, juz pay LD oso buay tahan liao. In the end, got nuttink oso.. last mth went to winsor taiwan HFJ. Same shit.. the girls dun even wanna come to my table maybe bcoz my table oli got 1 tower of beer(98.00). Why do pple still wanna go?

maybe u save money on the drinks and hang power power ley??...it's a superficial world my fren....who cares...just keep all your money in your bank account...

[restar]

Yup...it's the high you get when you hang the flower la...and how they fawn over you if you are a big flower hanger...plus if you have some competitors....who hopefully will not hang as much as you...and playing the strategies right...if you competitor hang $100 then you hang $200...he hang $200 then you hang $500....can be quite fun...then after a while he will look at you and wonder who should make the next move...hahahah...but it's just leow lui....better to take the $500 and do a overnight with a chio meimei you like la...anyway to each his own...happy can leow!

bro moralepitome total agree wif u ...simply like the feeling of girl fawn around us ha ha ha .......
cheers n bottom ups

[MoralEpitome]

bro moralepitome total agree wif u ...simply like the feeling of girl fawn around us ha ha ha .......
cheers n bottom ups

cheers to health prosperity and lotsa screwing for the brudders

[bluesky07]

My singer friend is going home soon and needs to perform show 作秀. Anyone can recommend a videographer as she wants to film it? Thanks.